What's the big deal about COD4?

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely any action on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictable

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely anya ction on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictabble

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

NorthlandMan

the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. apolloluke

Visually? Yes.

Apart from that..... sniping a couple of soldiers? Hiding in the tall grass?

Yawnfest, gentlemen.

Looks really great to me. Not sure if we're talking about the same game, man.

About the gameplay, can't comment. Haven't seen enough.

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely anya ction on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictabble

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

Eltroz

Call of Duty > Killzone

When you said CoD4 looks like crap and mentioned Killzone i just stoped because i knew this was just fanboy rant.Eltroz

err COD4 is coming to the PS3

Well since COD2 was such an awesome game, COD4 (made by same developers) will also be awesome.MADVLAD123

it barely looks any different than previous games. Titles like Bioshock and Killzone have lifted the bar higher for consoel FPS. COD4 for all it's glamour looks just like an XBox 1 FPS

the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. apolloluke

I thought it looked boring as hell. The environments and effects were amazing but the gameplay looked like a typical FPS and the objectives seemed incredibly linear and boring.

it barely looks any different than previous games. Titles like Bioshock and Killzone have lifted the bar higher for consoel FPS. COD4 for all it's glamour looks just like an XBox 1 FPS

NorthlandMan

Well let's summarize what you are saying:

Killzone has lifter the bar for console FPS

COD4 looks like an Xbox 1 game

COD4 looks the same as COD2.

I've heard enough *goes away*

[QUOTE="Eltroz"] When you said CoD4 looks like crap and mentioned Killzone i just stoped because i knew this was just fanboy rant.NorthlandMan

err COD4 is coming to the PS3

[QUOTE="apolloluke"]the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. FrozenLiquid

Visually? Yes.

Apart from that..... sniping a couple of soldiers? Hiding in the tall grass?

Yawnfest, gentlemen.

I thought that looked awesome..

It does look good. I wont comment on the gameplay since we havent seen much. But i am a huge fan of COD, i own them all on the PC and cod 3 on ps3, i have put countless hours in each of them, but i will be the first to tell you the singleplayer is as linear as hell and very had to play more than twice because its to predictable. It will definatly be action packed like the rest, but i think it will be like the rest with replayability. Also the online sucks for the console versions always. The Pc versions are the best because the mods literally make the cod games 20 times better.

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely any action on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictable

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

NorthlandMan

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="apolloluke"]the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. michael098

Visually? Yes.

Apart from that..... sniping a couple of soldiers? Hiding in the tall grass?

Yawnfest, gentlemen.

I thought that looked awesome..

Honestly, if you were one of those that didn't like the Halo 3 E3 '07 trailer.... then just wow.

I'm a CoD fan and everything, but what they had shown wasn't anything to be wowed at. It just looked good.

It is not wether the game is multiplat or not it is first thing you say is that CoD4 looks like crap. There is no honest way someone could say that. I would not even say that about KZ2. Do I think KZ2 is best looking game no but would not say looks like crap.

Eltroz

Read my post again. I am not saying that it iss not a beautiful looking game. I'm saying that it looks pretty poor in motion and incredibly boring (the AI, animation and gameplay look incredibly derivative and outdated).

[QUOTE="Eltroz"] When you said CoD4 looks like crap and mentioned Killzone i just stoped because i knew this was just fanboy rant.NorthlandMan

err COD4 is coming to the PS3

Well since COD2 was such an awesome game, COD4 (made by same developers) will also be awesome.MADVLAD123

it barely looks any different than previous games. Titles like Bioshock and Killzone have lifted the bar higher for consoel FPS. COD4 for all it's glamour looks just like an XBox 1 FPS

the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. apolloluke

I thought it looked boring as hell. The environments and effects were amazing but the gameplay looked like a typical FPS and the objectives seemed incredibly linear and boring.

The AI seemed riciculous as well with an enemy running towards him without his gun cocked

What has killzone shown that lifts the bar higher for console shooters? In the video the A.I was crap, i know its pre alpha but I'm sure apart from the graphics killzone 2 is just going to be an average shooter at best.

What are you smoking? CoD 4 was BY FAR the most visually impressive game at E3 2007. Few if any will argue that point. You mention the animations looked like crap. Ummm??? No..just NO!!! In fact everyone I talk to about CoD 4 was blown away by the realism of the movements! kungfuchaos

:lol:

i've seen better animation in dreamcast games. The characters ran like prissy schoolgirls

What has killzone shown that lifts the bar higher for console shooters? In the video the A.I was crap, i know its pre alpha but I'm sure apart from the graphics killzone 2 is just going to be an average shooter at best.

michael098

Nothing unique, it just had a lot of things we'd seen before all in the same game. The destructability of environments. The animations of the characters and the way they moved like real people. The lack of a HUD wand the sue of visual stimuli instead. The seamlessness between cutscenes and gameplay. The reactions of your comrades (they would react to the environment and make mistakes like that guy who got set on fire).

[QUOTE="michael098"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="apolloluke"]the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. FrozenLiquid

Visually? Yes.

Apart from that..... sniping a couple of soldiers? Hiding in the tall grass?

Yawnfest, gentlemen.

I thought that looked awesome..

Honestly, if you were one of those that didn't like the Halo 3 E3 '07 trailer.... then just wow.

I'm a CoD fan and everything, but what they had shown wasn't anything to be wowed at. It just looked good.

I thought alot of games looked awesome i liked the look of COD4 because i really liked COD2 but i wasn't sitting there going WOW, the game had awesome graphics and i know its going to play alot like COD2 but thats not really a bad thing, The halo 3 trailer was good to but also was nothing to be wowed by, but unlike alot of people i think H3s graphics are looking great.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]

It is not wether the game is multiplat or not it is first thing you say is that CoD4 looks like crap. There is no honest way someone could say that. I would not even say that about KZ2. Do I think KZ2 is best looking game no but would not say looks like crap.

NorthlandMan

Read my post again. I am not saying that it iss not a beautiful looking game. I'm saying that it looks pretty poor in motion and incredibly boring (the AI, animation and gameplay look incredibly derivative and outdated).

Lets look at Killzone 1 and all the greatness that it is ,shall we..

6.9

The Bad

• Bland single-player gameplay :lol:
• Weapons don't have the best feel

Killzone looks great in still pictures, and indeed, it's one of the nicer-looking PS2 games. Until it starts moving, that is. The frame rate is never what you'd call completely smooth, and in some heated battles it can get so low that precise aiming becomes a maddening chore. There's a host of minor graphical issues that don't harm the gameplay but still make the experience feel just plain sloppy. A level-of-detail problem causes friendly character models to get stuck in their low-detail versions even up close--on occasion the high-detail texture and geometry won't pop in until after the person has started talking to you. The character animation is usually serviceable but occasionally causes both friends and foes to move in a stuttery, strange-looking way. Taken individually, these flaws are minor, but the many small problems add up to noticeably affect the visual quality of the game.

What I really liked about the CoD4 demo was that it looked really immersive which is something I think is great to have in games.Mystic_Legend

Whatw as immersive about it apart from the lush environments?

you had a poorly animated comrade running out in front of you and repeating stock phrases. You had dumb enemies that upon spotting you ran towards you without a gun cocked. You had linear boring objectives from every other call of duty game (shoot the two guys in the head with a sniper rifle!!! whoooo!!!)

i can almostguarantee you that COD4 will play better than Killzone2.

Lets look at Killzone 1 and all the greatness that it is ,shall we..

jessesalinas

[QUOTE="michael098"]

What has killzone shown that lifts the bar higher for console shooters? In the video the A.I was crap, i know its pre alpha but I'm sure apart from the graphics killzone 2 is just going to be an average shooter at best, i

NorthlandMan

Nothing unique, it just had a lot of things we'd seen before all in the same game. The destructability of environments. The animations of the characters and the way they moved like real people. The lack of a HUD wand the sue of visual stimuli instead. The seamlessness between cutscenes and gameplay. The reactions of your comrades (they would react to the environment and make mistakes like that guy who got set on fire).

I don't think that guy getting set on fire was just a random mistake the A.I made, i think it was scripted, I'm just waiting awhile before i get excited for this game because the first time i saw killzone 1 the exact thing happened, the graphics looked awesome and i had no doubt that it was going to be the halo killer, but thats not how it turned out and its likely the same thing will happen

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely any action on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictable

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

NorthlandMan

Wow, you are now officially the greatest person on this forum to me.

I was thinking the same thing (but the developers actually said environmental destruction is a fad, and therefore it does not have it at all). There is actually a decent amount of action onscreen however and I think you're overanalyzing it a tad. I don't think it will be a bad game but I can't STAND reading "OH MY HERES CALL OF DUTY 4 AGAIN, THE MOST GORGEOUS GAME EVER!" because I find it underwhelming and the gameplay in Call of Duty 2 was trite and repetitive.

Plus, the multiplayer for CoD4 resembled Call of Duty 2's almost exactly.

[QUOTE="Mystic_Legend"]What I really liked about the CoD4 demo was that it looked really immersive which is something I think is great to have in games.NorthlandMan

Whatw as immersive about it apart from the lush environments?

you had a poorly animated comrade running out in front of you and repeating stock phrases. You had dumb enemies that upon spotting you ran towards you without a gun cocked. You had linear boring objectives from every other call of duty game (shoot the two guys in the head with a sniper rifle!!! whoooo!!!)

CLEAR OUT THAT BUILDING! GRAB THAT MG! CLEAR OUT THAT BUILDING! GRAB THAT MG!

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely any action on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictable

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

Redfingers

Wow, you are now officially the greatest person on this forum to me.

I was thinking the same thing (but the developers actually said environmental destruction is a fad, and therefore it does not have it at all). There is actually a decent amount of action onscreen however and I think you're overanalyzing it a tad. I don't think it will be a bad game but I can't STAND reading "OH MY HERES CALL OF DUTY 4 AGAIN, THE MOST GORGEOUS GAME EVER!" because I find it underwhelming and the gameplay in Call of Duty 2 was trite and repetitive.

Plus, the multiplayer for CoD4 resembled Call of Duty 2's almost exactly.

You're implying you had no fun with Call of Duty 2's gameplay?

And you're also implying you have hope for Killzone 2?

Cows are getting worse by the minute.

CoD4 is from a sucessful line of great games.. it has a very promising mechanics form stealth to all out combat.. The dev has known to put all sorts of different factors in with great gameplay through out it.

IMO I don't see how Killzone 2 can be compared to Cod4.. Killzone no doubt has stunning graphics, all these games that are being released do for the most part.. But the game seems genericfrom what we have seen so far.. I couldn't understand the point where you see every one taking cover while your standing up like a dumbass picking people off and barely getting hurt.. Come on I see better movement and tactics in Farcry of all games.. Games such as FEAR though it has its own flaws, seems to still surpass KZ2 in straight out action and gameplay that alot of itmes is anything but straight forward..

That with the fact that we havn't seen much more then this gives me alot of doubts with the fact on how much of a letdown killzone was. I of course hope I am wrong, but from what I have seen so far of that game, my opinions are swaying that way.

In the end I couldn't care if all these games did horrible.. In the end my one hope is Bioshock does great sense it seems to be the only fps trying something different.

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely any action on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictable

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

Redfingers

Wow, you are now officially the greatest person on this forum to me.

I was thinking the same thing (but the developers actually said environmental destruction is a fad, and therefore it does not have it at all). There is actually a decent amount of action onscreen however and I think you're overanalyzing it a tad. I don't think it will be a bad game but I can't STAND reading "OH MY HERES CALL OF DUTY 4 AGAIN, THE MOST GORGEOUS GAME EVER!" because I find it underwhelming and the gameplay in Call of Duty 2 was trite and repetitive.

Plus, the multiplayer for CoD4 resembled Call of Duty 2's almost exactly.

i second that, redfingers. indeed, NorthlandMan always has well thought out posts. he actually backs up his opinion which is rare on system wars. i agree, COD4 doesnt look that great in motion. i tried to see what all the hype was about, but i soon realized it was lemmings hyping it so they can actually compare it to Killzone 2's graphics. sad sad sad.

[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely anya ction on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictabble

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

Eltroz

Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.XenogearsMaster

:lol:

Weren't you just saying stop hyping Halo 3 graphics in the other thread?

:lol: Cows :lol:

Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.XenogearsMaster

I've just seen a video of it and it looks crap. It looks better than Killzone in stills but it's crap in motion. the objectives all seem the same as previous COD games, the animations are rubbish, the destructability of environments is a joke, there's barely any action on the screen at a time, the AI sems incredibly linear and predictable

Why are people hyping this game? and how can you praise its graphcis after seeing killzone in motion

NorthlandMan

The difference is it will play better on the Xbox 360 with better controls and multiplayer then on the Ps3. The PC is an another question

Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.XenogearsMaster

if by destroy you mean is worse then yes you are correct

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.FrozenLiquid

:lol:

Weren't you just saying stop hyping Halo 3 graphics in the other thread?

:lol: Cows :lol:

You were hyping it for the graphics to improve, which is sad.

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.primetime2121

if by destroy you mean is worse then yes you are correct

Learn to read.

Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.XenogearsMaster

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.XenogearsMaster

:lol:

Weren't you just saying stop hyping Halo 3 graphics in the other thread?

:lol: Cows :lol:

You were hyping it for the graphics to improve, which is sad.

What also sad is cows hyping a game that was downgraded...Killzone2

[QUOTE="apolloluke"]the demo from the 360 press conference was AWESOME. FrozenLiquid

Visually? Yes.

Apart from that..... sniping a couple of soldiers? Hiding in the tall grass?

Yawnfest, gentlemen.

yes well unlike KZ2 where the previous instalment was Average to say the least- COD2 the game made previously by Infinity Ward was acclaimed allround.

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.hoankiemdinh

:lol:

Weren't you just saying stop hyping Halo 3 graphics in the other thread?

:lol: Cows :lol:

You were hyping it for the graphics to improve, which is sad.

What also sad is cows hyping a game that was downgraded...Killzone2

Actually, the saddest is hyping KZ2 as the 2nd worst flop of SW history.

BTW, pre-alpha.

[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.Heil68

Not really.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]Killzone 2 destroys it graphically.XenogearsMaster

Not really.