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#51 VoodooHak
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Brand new campaign with an open world, non-linear structure. New characters forcing a change in pacing. Markedly darker atmosphere and a different storytelling mechanic.

It'll have ALL the maps in Halo 3 so far as well as new ones, plus Firefight mode.

Sounds good to me.

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#52 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] I dont like halo so for me yes problem?

Rza_rectah

We're not talking about what you like, we're talking about value here. I don't like MGS4 (or any MGS game I've ever played, for that matter), so am I correct if I say that it's just a stupid waste of money for anyone who buys it? Repacking games that aren't even a gen old with achievements and a resolution increase AFTER removing BC from a console just strikes me as squeezing the udder until it turns blue - and being THANKED for it!

I don't even see how you can put that in the same ballpark of value as an actual new campaign in one of the most beloved series of the past two gens, whether you personally like it or not.

so in terms of value the god of war package is more. More gameplay and new added features. The halo DLC is overpriced after all. You get a 5 hour campaign and 3 new maps wow that's great value. Value is in terms of interest what may be valuable to you isn't valuable to me and vies versa. who cares how old the game is its meant for ps3 owners who dont have b/c but want to play the game.

First off, the Halo ODST campaign is touted as being comparable to other Halo games in length. I don't know where the "5 hours" length comes from, but I know that people who described Halo 3's campaign as being 8'ish hours were doing speed runs on easy. Comparably, I could say "Oh, MGS4 - about 8 hours gameplay, no multiplayer - what a waste of money!" So, where does this 5 hours number come from?

And, it seems to me that you value re-released last gen games over actual new campaigns. That being the case, why'd they even waste time making KZ2 and MGS4 for a guy like you? Why didn't they just do a resolution increase and re-release the PS2 games? Who needs new games at all, eh? The last gen experiences are just so spiffy that we should value them being repackaged for us with a $40 price tag attached over an actual new experience! YIPPEEE!

So why the heck did you even bother buying a PS3 if you actually value getting to play PS2 games again more than playing entirely new games?

I just don't see it. New experience >>>> repacakged old experience damn near every time for me when it's only been a few years since the release of the old.

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#53 Ross_the_B0SS
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I believe the hype is AA based off the last hype thread I saw for it. I think the same.

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#54 kobraka1
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if you think a 5 hour campaign and a new multiplayer game type and a beta that should be free is worth $60 then go ahead and buy it. but i think with the quality of games coming out someone would have to be dumb to throw that money on it. and you just know bungie will make it to where you have to have certain maps (the ODST ones) tomplay all the game types just like they did with the mythic pack. that crap was wrong but it keeps fanboys milking it doesnt it? and i really could care less if you respect me. ill play you in halo 3 anytime and ill show you respect. but the fact is bungie and microsoft are screwing people. if you wanna bend over for them thats your problem.

Wow your angry and you need to prove something. Anybody who knows me on this forum knows I tell the truth, and I suck at MP gaming. It's not my thing, so I'm sure you would beat me in MP. Have you always fought with others who don't have the same opinion? How old are you?

oh i wasnt aguing with you. i was telling you my opinion. and im old enough not to get ripped off. im also smart enough to wait til a price drop because lets face it. it will be around for a while. are you done? asking how old i am and yet you the one going to cry to the mods? thats just sad but im sure you want the points huh?
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#55 OPuniverse
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[QUOTE="OPuniverse"]

ODST hypes? i saw more hates on here than hypes. It's from bungie, i like it. im hyping it AA. There's a hype thread I made a few days ago, go back and check if you wanna know why.

Rza_rectah

hes not asking for hype scores he is asking why is this game getting hyped. Mainly because of the dry spout that the 360 has seen all year in exclusives.

It is true that 360 is having a bad year, but so what? ODST was hype because it was made by bungie. It brings a different feeling to the Halo universe, a darker tone. Do you think halo ODST was hype that much? I saw far more uncharted 2 hypes every day than i saw ODST hype.

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#56 Samson089
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[QUOTE="linkin_guy109"][QUOTE="Samson089"][QUOTE="linkin_guy109"]

the reason for the hype for halo odst is the same reason there was hype for halo wars, it has halo in the name, heck if they made a halo kitty island aventure game it would probably sell a million, with that being said i was watching a guy play halo odst last night and it look incredibly polished

I'd buy Halo Kitty Island.

point proven :P

It also really comes down to wether or not I can shotgun Badtz Maru. That penguin frikin deserves it.
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] We're not talking about what you like, we're talking about value here. I don't like MGS4 (or any MGS game I've ever played, for that matter), so am I correct if I say that it's just a stupid waste of money for anyone who buys it? Repacking games that aren't even a gen old with achievements and a resolution increase AFTER removing BC from a console just strikes me as squeezing the udder until it turns blue - and being THANKED for it!

I don't even see how you can put that in the same ballpark of value as an actual new campaign in one of the most beloved series of the past two gens, whether you personally like it or not.

Shafftehr

so in terms of value the god of war package is more. More gameplay and new added features. The halo DLC is overpriced after all. You get a 5 hour campaign and 3 new maps wow that's great value. Value is in terms of interest what may be valuable to you isn't valuable to me and vies versa. who cares how old the game is its meant for ps3 owners who dont have b/c but want to play the game.

First off, the Halo ODST campaign is touted as being comparable to other Halo games in length. I don't know where the "5 hours" length comes from, but I know that people who described Halo 3's campaign as being 8'ish hours were doing speed runs on easy. Comparably, I could say "Oh, MGS4 - about 8 hours gameplay, no multiplayer - what a waste of money!" So, where does this 5 hours number come from?

And, it seems to me that you value re-released last gen games over actual new campaigns. That being the case, why'd they even waste time making KZ2 and MGS4 for a guy like you? Why didn't they just do a resolution increase and re-release the PS2 games? Who needs new games at all, eh? The last gen experiences are just so spiffy that we should value them being repackaged for us with a $40 price tag attached over an actual new experience! YIPPEEE!

So why the heck did you even bother buying a PS3 if you actually value getting to play PS2 games again more than playing entirely new games?

I just don't see it. New experience >>>> repacakged old experience damn near every time for me when it's only been a few years since the release of the old.

the 5 hours comes from their original annoucnement as DLC, then a few months or so later they were like, we have alot more so we are going to sell it as a full fledged game, and then we are also adding in ALL the halo 3 DLC

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#58 Mau-Justice
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I just really enjoy the campaigns. Me and my friends get a ton of replay out of them, and Firefight will take over Gears of War Horde for us. The multiplayer is a bummer, but I'm not worried about getting my 60$ worth out of it.
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#59 cainetao11
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What points are you referring to? I reported you for insulting multiple users. Like I said, we try to respect each other here even if our opinions differ. You seem to be carrying some anger and it is influencing your posting, hence the now passive aggressive insults in your last post. Like if I don't use your timing of purchases on a product then I'm not smart. Are you OK? Do you need to talk? Seriously, I'm in that field. You seem angry and I doubt it's really over ODST.
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#60 Shafftehr
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the 5 hours comes from their original annoucnement as DLC, then a few months or so later they were like, we have alot more so we are going to sell it as a full fledged game, and then we are also adding in ALL the halo 3 DLC

savagetwinkie

So basically people throw that around because they ignore all of the more recent info in favour of the old info that puts the absolute worst spin on it?...

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#61 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] We're not talking about what you like, we're talking about value here. I don't like MGS4 (or any MGS game I've ever played, for that matter), so am I correct if I say that it's just a stupid waste of money for anyone who buys it? Repacking games that aren't even a gen old with achievements and a resolution increase AFTER removing BC from a console just strikes me as squeezing the udder until it turns blue - and being THANKED for it!

I don't even see how you can put that in the same ballpark of value as an actual new campaign in one of the most beloved series of the past two gens, whether you personally like it or not.

Shafftehr

so in terms of value the god of war package is more. More gameplay and new added features. The halo DLC is overpriced after all. You get a 5 hour campaign and 3 new maps wow that's great value. Value is in terms of interest what may be valuable to you isn't valuable to me and vies versa. who cares how old the game is its meant for ps3 owners who dont have b/c but want to play the game.

First off, the Halo ODST campaign is touted as being comparable to other Halo games in length. I don't know where the "5 hours" length comes from, but I know that people who described Halo 3's campaign as being 8'ish hours were doing speed runs on easy. Comparably, I could say "Oh, MGS4 - about 8 hours gameplay, no multiplayer - what a waste of money!" So, where does this 5 hours number come from?

And, it seems to me that you value re-released last gen games over actual new campaigns. That being the case, why'd they even waste time making KZ2 and MGS4 for a guy like you? Why didn't they just do a resolution increase and re-release the PS2 games? Who needs new games at all, eh? The last gen experiences are just so spiffy that we should value them being repackaged for us with a $40 price tag attached over an actual new experience! YIPPEEE!

So why the heck did you even bother buying a PS3 if you actually value getting to play PS2 games again more than playing entirely new games?

I just don't see it. New experience >>>> repacakged old experience damn near every time for me when it's only been a few years since the release of the old.

For all games the projected time it takes to beat is never actually that time you should know that, that goes for any game not just halo. MGS 4 has multiplayer. I told you already i dont like halo so i will take a re release over that game any day. I love new games dont put words in my mouth. It doesnt matter if a game is new if you already know what to expect its halo so i dont expect any radical changes in an expansion. The game was priced lower but its now more expensive i wonder why? I got my 360 and my ps 3 to play new games just because i dont like a new halo expansion doesnt mean i dont like new games.

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#62 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]he was talking about heavenly sword but halo is overpriced too.dotWithShoes
yeah, heavenly sword was the game i was shocked was still 60

LAir is still $60 new

yeah, but i don't WANT lair :P
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#63 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]the 5 hours comes from their original annoucnement as DLC, then a few months or so later they were like, we have alot more so we are going to sell it as a full fledged game, and then we are also adding in ALL the halo 3 DLC

So basically people throw that around because they ignore all of the more recent info in favour of the old info that puts the absolute worst spin on it?...

so to you 3 hours of gameplay justifies a 20 dollar increase in price?
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[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]the 5 hours comes from their original annoucnement as DLC, then a few months or so later they were like, we have alot more so we are going to sell it as a full fledged game, and then we are also adding in ALL the halo 3 DLC

Shafftehr

So basically people throw that around because they ignore all of the more recent info in favour of the old info that puts the absolute worst spin on it?...

Of course, bro. How do you continue bashing if you read up on the changes that negate said bashing.
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#65 h575309
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="kobraka1"] and apparently they are babies too who cant take critisism. wanna play me? ill make you cry even more.

kobraka1

I can take critisism. "Hey you need to work on your MP skills; You can't shoot in COD4; Wow, you need to work on your defense in NHL 10." What you did was insult others who don't share your opinion of somethings value. We try to have a community here even if we argue or back different systems, we try to respect each other. Try to breathe and grasp that notion.

if you think a 5 hour campaign and a new multiplayer game type and a beta that should be free is worth $60 then go ahead and buy it. but i think with the quality of games coming out someone would have to be dumb to throw that money on it. and you just know bungie will make it to where you have to have certain maps (the ODST ones) tomplay all the game types just like they did with the mythic pack. that crap was wrong but it keeps fanboys milking it doesnt it? and i really could care less if you respect me. ill play you in halo 3 anytime and ill show you respect. but the fact is bungie and microsoft are screwing people. if you wanna bend over for them thats your problem.

Like I said in an other post, thats more content than alot of other 60$ games. Im guessing you only buy games with 30 hour single player campaigns?

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The single player is completely redesigned from Halo 3's campaign. This is GREAT news to people like me, who were severely let down by Halo 3's underwhelming campaign. It really isn't more of the same because the entire game design is different from Halo 3's.

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#67 ArcticWolf77
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] because ODST is over priced DLC. At least with GoW you get HD and Trophies. You get way more in the ELC for GTA that just shows you whose milking who.Oakfront

So achievements and a resolution increase on games that aren't even a generation old is worth more than an entirely new singleplayer campaign, new multiplayer modes, new weapons, and new maps?... Wow. Just wow.

I'd gladly pay $40 odd or however much its going to be for the GOW re-release then ODST.
Ok, i agree on a new campaign, but dude, it's the exact same multiplayer as Halo, with a like 3 new maps..

Good for you. I have God of War 1 and 2 and a BC PS3. Ill just stick with that and buy ODST, since it actually offers something new for my money.

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For all games the projected time it takes to beat is never actually that time you should know that, that goes for any game not just halo. MGS 4 has multiplayer. I told you already i dont like halo so i will take a re release over that game any day. I love new games dont put words in my mouth. It doesnt matter if a game is new if you already know what to expect its halo so i dont expect any radical changes in an expansion. The game was priced lower but its now more expensive i wonder why? I got my 360 and my ps 3 to play new games just because i dont like a new halo expansion doesnt mean i dont like new games.

Rza_rectah

MGSO was released as a different game - Kojima aimed for that, GS didn't count it when scoring it for precisely that reason (same with most sites). MGSO is, straight from Kojima, and independent effort from MGS4. Get your facts straight, eh?

I can't remember the last game I bought that I got as little playtime out of as the projected completion time. Halo's campaign actually has some of the longest-legs of any FPS campaign I've ever played due to co-op... And go figure, my first playthrough (legendary, of course) took me *substantially* longer than the estimated time to beat. So in short, I don't "know that" because it's a load of bullpoop.

Your position is either "I value re-releases more than new games" or "I don't like Halo, so it's not worth it for ANYONE!" I almost always value new experiences over repackaged recent old ones. This is no exception particularly seeing as it is a new entry in one of the most beloved gaming properties of the past two gens.

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Shafftehr"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]the 5 hours comes from their original annoucnement as DLC, then a few months or so later they were like, we have alot more so we are going to sell it as a full fledged game, and then we are also adding in ALL the halo 3 DLC

So basically people throw that around because they ignore all of the more recent info in favour of the old info that puts the absolute worst spin on it?...

so to you 3 hours of gameplay justifies a 20 dollar increase in price?

so now an 8 hour campaign, a completely new MP co-op mode, Half of halo 3, and a halo reach better arent enough? Honestly dude, if you dont like Halo, thats fine then you wont like this. But thats alot of content for 60 bucks. I really dont feel ripped off in the slightest.
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I like the firefight mode, such modes always add an insanely good replay value with friends, and all the mappacks and the fact that you are no longer a spartan are just bonuses

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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]the 5 hours comes from their original annoucnement as DLC, then a few months or so later they were like, we have alot more so we are going to sell it as a full fledged game, and then we are also adding in ALL the halo 3 DLC

Rza_rectah

So basically people throw that around because they ignore all of the more recent info in favour of the old info that puts the absolute worst spin on it?...

so to you 3 hours of gameplay justifies a 20 dollar increase in price?

Wow... we went from 5 hours down to 3. Pretty soon someone will claim that they cut out the campaign altogether.

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] For all games the projected time it takes to beat is never actually that time you should know that, that goes for any game not just halo. MGS 4 has multiplayer. I told you already i dont like halo so i will take a re release over that game any day. I love new games dont put words in my mouth. It doesnt matter if a game is new if you already know what to expect its halo so i dont expect any radical changes in an expansion. The game was priced lower but its now more expensive i wonder why? I got my 360 and my ps 3 to play new games just because i dont like a new halo expansion doesnt mean i dont like new games.

Shafftehr

MGSO was released as a different game - Kojima aimed for that, GS didn't count it when scoring it for precisely that reason (same with most sites). MGSO is, straight from Kojima, and independent effort from MGS4. Get your facts straight, eh?

I can't remember the last game I bought that I got as little playtime out of as the projected completion time. Halo's campaign actually has some of the longest-legs of any FPS campaign I've ever played due to co-op... And go figure, my first playthrough (legendary, of course) took me *substantially* longer than the estimated time to beat. So in short, I don't "know that" because it's a load of bullpoop.

Your position is either "I value re-releases more than new games" or "I don't like Halo, so it's not worth it for ANYONE!" I almost always value new experiences over repackaged recent old ones. This is no exception particularly seeing as it is a new entry in one of the most beloved gaming properties of the past two gens.

So im guessing when i bought MGS 4 MGO wasnt included dont spin it to meet your needs. Thats good for you if you played it on legendary if you played it on live with co op then you would have died less. I never said its not worth it for anyone dont falsify my post please. I clearly said i dont care for halo but some might value this bundle I value the GoW repack more. Its not a new entry its and expansion to halo 3. Halo reach would be a new entry. Your post is invalid because you didnt post the average time it takes to beat halo 3 you just stated that it took you long because you picked a harder setting. I can do that with any game and just suck hard to make it seem long.

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#73 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Shafftehr"] So basically people throw that around because they ignore all of the more recent info in favour of the old info that puts the absolute worst spin on it?...

so to you 3 hours of gameplay justifies a 20 dollar increase in price?

Wow... we went from 5 hours down to 3. Pretty soon someone will claim that they cut out the campaign altogether.

sorry if u cant comprehend i meant 3 more hours. 8 minus 5 is 3 or is it 5.
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its more halo. Thats all that needs to be said.

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#75 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] so to you 3 hours of gameplay justifies a 20 dollar increase in price?Rza_rectah

Wow... we went from 5 hours down to 3. Pretty soon someone will claim that they cut out the campaign altogether.

sorry if u cant comprehend i meant 3 more hours. 8 minus 5 is 3 or is it 5.

I can only comprehend what you write, not what you mean. Beta brain waves don't travel well over the internet so I'm having a hard time reading your mind.

If you mean 3 "more" hours, you should have typed "3 more hours". Such is the golden rule of good communication skills.

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#76 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Wow... we went from 5 hours down to 3. Pretty soon someone will claim that they cut out the campaign altogether.

sorry if u cant comprehend i meant 3 more hours. 8 minus 5 is 3 or is it 5.

I can only comprehend what you write, not what you mean. Beta brain waves don't travel well over the internet so I'm having a hard time reading your mind.

If you mean 3 "more" hours, you should have typed "3 more hours". Such is the golden rule of good communication skills.

if you were following the discussion you would know what i was refering to.
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Firstly, i own all 3 consoles, so no fanboy here as my 360 probably gets the most play time. I just don't get why people are so excited about them being ripped off for what is, at its core a $60 DLC :?.

Whats so special about it?

Oakfront

I guess you missed the memo that told everyone ODST is no longer an expansion, it's a full game now.

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#78 Shafftehr
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] For all games the projected time it takes to beat is never actually that time you should know that, that goes for any game not just halo. MGS 4 has multiplayer. I told you already i dont like halo so i will take a re release over that game any day. I love new games dont put words in my mouth. It doesnt matter if a game is new if you already know what to expect its halo so i dont expect any radical changes in an expansion. The game was priced lower but its now more expensive i wonder why? I got my 360 and my ps 3 to play new games just because i dont like a new halo expansion doesnt mean i dont like new games.

Rza_rectah

MGSO was released as a different game - Kojima aimed for that, GS didn't count it when scoring it for precisely that reason (same with most sites). MGSO is, straight from Kojima, and independent effort from MGS4. Get your facts straight, eh?

I can't remember the last game I bought that I got as little playtime out of as the projected completion time. Halo's campaign actually has some of the longest-legs of any FPS campaign I've ever played due to co-op... And go figure, my first playthrough (legendary, of course) took me *substantially* longer than the estimated time to beat. So in short, I don't "know that" because it's a load of bullpoop.

Your position is either "I value re-releases more than new games" or "I don't like Halo, so it's not worth it for ANYONE!" I almost always value new experiences over repackaged recent old ones. This is no exception particularly seeing as it is a new entry in one of the most beloved gaming properties of the past two gens.

So im guessing when i bought MGS 4 MGO wasnt included dont spin it to meet your needs. Thats good for you if you played it on legendary if you played it on live with co op then you would have died less. I never said its not worth it for anyone dont falsify my post please. I clearly said i dont care for halo but some might value this bundle I value the GoW repack more. Its not a new entry its and expansion to halo 3. Halo reach would be a new entry. Your post is invalid because you didnt post the average time it takes to beat halo 3 you just stated that it took you long because you picked a harder setting. I can do that with any game and just suck hard to make it seem long.

Uh, me spin it? Cows *JUMPED* to not count the flawed MGSO as part of MGS4 and have stuck by that since the release. Heaven FORBID I hold this forum's mass of Cows to what Kojima said and they jumped on and have clung to ever since. Who's spinning what to suit who's needs now? My post is invalid because I didn't account for average time? 8 hours is a speed run on a low difficulty in Halo 3, but you're counting THAT as the average... And now you're saying that 5 hours is the hard and fast number. And 3 hours making it worth the extra $20? Shouldn't MGS fans line up to agree with that statement, as the majority of the series is 10 hours or under actual gameplay, with speed runs going significantly faster? 3 good hours is worth a lot. As for my playing on Legendary... Well, I started playing games pre-NES, and games then were VERY unforgiving. When I walk around a corner in Halo 3 and I see two brutes, a grunt, and a sniper jackal in the back, I don't want to just walk through it easy as pie - I want to have to explore various options to try and struggle through it. That's precisely what makes Halo single player fun - it has some of the most entertaining base FPS combat there is as far as I'm concerned, and I love it. Halo 3's (heck, the whole series') campaign has brought me *tremendous* replay value. Your dogged insistence of 5 hours just makes no sense to me, especially when you criticize ME for not putting out averages. Now, you say "I never said it's not worth it for anyone"... So it IS worth it for someone? Well, of COURSE it is. It's worth it for a *LOT* of people. You seem on the verge of admitting that, so why not just do so and get out of this thread altogether since that's what we're arguing about?
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] sorry if u cant comprehend i meant 3 more hours. 8 minus 5 is 3 or is it 5.Rza_rectah

I can only comprehend what you write, not what you mean. Beta brain waves don't travel well over the internet so I'm having a hard time reading your mind.

If you mean 3 "more" hours, you should have typed "3 more hours". Such is the golden rule of good communication skills.

if you were following the discussion you would know what i was refering to.

I'm reading through Gamespots Terms of Use and nowhere does it say that I'm responsible for anticipating or interpreting your typos or omissions.

Back on-topic: If you followed this thread, you'd see several people's posts (including mine) that list what makes the game worth the full retail price tag. We didn't leave it out for you to figure out what we "mean". It's right there in black and white (or whatever font color your settings default to).

Enjoy!

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#80 Ross_the_B0SS
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I don't think people understand that value is subjective. I don't go out to eat much spending $10 on fast food but a lot of people do it so there must be value there for them.

Uncharted had a short single player and no multiplayer and was $60.

Same with Heavenly Sword, Star Wars: The Force Unleashed, Prince of Persia, and so many others.

Halo 3: ODST has a short single player, a multiplayer, and 3 new maps for Halo 3's multiplayer.

To me that is a good value. I can understand why some people don't think it is but don't act like Bungie and MS are the devils. Compared to many games this gen Halo 3:ODST is a better value content wise.

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new campaign, new hero, new story, new weapons, new mp levels. everything looks solid and I know the general quality Bungie offers with their FPS games. so eys why wouldnt I be excited ?
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#82 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I can only comprehend what you write, not what you mean. Beta brain waves don't travel well over the internet so I'm having a hard time reading your mind.

If you mean 3 "more" hours, you should have typed "3 more hours". Such is the golden rule of good communication skills.

VoodooHak

if you were following the discussion you would know what i was refering to.

I'm reading through Gamespots Terms of Use and nowhere does it say that I'm responsible for anticipating or interpreting your typos or omissions.

Back on-topic: If you followed this thread, you'd see several people's posts (including mine) that list what makes the game worth the full retail price tag. We didn't leave it out for you to figure out what we "mean". It's right there in black and white (or whatever font color your settings default to.)

Enjoy!

you need post rules to help u to understand my post dont use that as a cop out for your ignorance. Like i said before value for some is not value for all. this game is a rip imo.

How is it another poster knew what I was referring to but you didnt maybe because they knew the topic at hand i or are theymind readers like you were referring to.i wonder

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I was really excited for the Firefight mode, but since there is no splitscreen, matchmaking or server lists for it, the hype went way down. Still excited for the campaign and competitive multiplayer though, since I haven't had Halo 3 in a while. But I would be way more excited if firefight had more features
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#84 Ross_the_B0SS
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I was really excited for the Firefight mode, but since there is no splitscreen, matchmaking or server lists for it, the hype went way down. Still excited for the campaign and competitive multiplayer though, since I haven't had Halo 3 in a while. But I would be way more excited if firefight had more featuresCouth_

There is split screen.

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[QUOTE="Couth_"]I was really excited for the Firefight mode, but since there is no splitscreen, matchmaking or server lists for it, the hype went way down. Still excited for the campaign and competitive multiplayer though, since I haven't had Halo 3 in a while. But I would be way more excited if firefight had more featuresRoss_the_B0SS

There is split screen.

According to the last trailer there is only system link or playing with friends over XBL. No matchmaking, no splitscreen, no server lists
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#86 Ross_the_B0SS
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[QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]I was really excited for the Firefight mode, but since there is no splitscreen, matchmaking or server lists for it, the hype went way down. Still excited for the campaign and competitive multiplayer though, since I haven't had Halo 3 in a while. But I would be way more excited if firefight had more featuresCouth_

There is split screen.

According to the last trailer there is only system link or playing with friends over XBL. No matchmaking, no splitscreen, no server lists

Hm are you talking about the one with Sgt. Johnson? I would go watch it but I have a really bad internet connection right now so it takes way too long to load.

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[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Firstly, i own all 3 consoles, so no fanboy here as my 360 probably gets the most play time. I just don't get why people are so excited about them being ripped off for what is, at its core a $60 DLC :?.

Whats so special about it?

MortalDecay

I guess you missed the memo that told everyone ODST is no longer an expansion, it's a full game now.

It's a full game now, despite still having the content of an expansion, plus a $60 price tag.

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The sp looks better then halo 3's so it could get AAA since its has the mp as well but it probably will score AA.
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#89 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="Ross_the_B0SS"]

There is split screen.

Ross_the_B0SS

According to the last trailer there is only system link or playing with friends over XBL. No matchmaking, no splitscreen, no server lists

Hm are you talking about the one with Sgt. Johnson? I would go watch it but I have a really bad internet connection right now so it takes way too long to load.

Yeah the one with Sgt Johnson is the one that didn't mention splitscreen, only system link. And on Bungies official forums there was a thread about no matchmaking, only playing with friends
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[QUOTE="Shafftehr"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"] MGSO was released as a different game - Kojima aimed for that, GS didn't count it when scoring it for precisely that reason (same with most sites). MGSO is, straight from Kojima, and independent effort from MGS4. Get your facts straight, eh?

I can't remember the last game I bought that I got as little playtime out of as the projected completion time. Halo's campaign actually has some of the longest-legs of any FPS campaign I've ever played due to co-op... And go figure, my first playthrough (legendary, of course) took me *substantially* longer than the estimated time to beat. So in short, I don't "know that" because it's a load of bullpoop.

Your position is either "I value re-releases more than new games" or "I don't like Halo, so it's not worth it for ANYONE!" I almost always value new experiences over repackaged recent old ones. This is no exception particularly seeing as it is a new entry in one of the most beloved gaming properties of the past two gens.

So im guessing when i bought MGS 4 MGO wasnt included dont spin it to meet your needs. Thats good for you if you played it on legendary if you played it on live with co op then you would have died less. I never said its not worth it for anyone dont falsify my post please. I clearly said i dont care for halo but some might value this bundle I value the GoW repack more. Its not a new entry its and expansion to halo 3. Halo reach would be a new entry. Your post is invalid because you didnt post the average time it takes to beat halo 3 you just stated that it took you long because you picked a harder setting. I can do that with any game and just suck hard to make it seem long.

Uh, me spin it? Cows *JUMPED* to not count the flawed MGSO as part of MGS4 and have stuck by that since the release. Heaven FORBID I hold this forum's mass of Cows to what Kojima said and they jumped on and have clung to ever since. Who's spinning what to suit who's needs now? My post is invalid because I didn't account for average time? 8 hours is a speed run on a low difficulty in Halo 3, but you're counting THAT as the average... And now you're saying that 5 hours is the hard and fast number. And 3 hours making it worth the extra $20? Shouldn't MGS fans line up to agree with that statement, as the majority of the series is 10 hours or under actual gameplay, with speed runs going significantly faster? 3 good hours is worth a lot. As for my playing on Legendary... Well, I started playing games pre-NES, and games then were VERY unforgiving. When I walk around a corner in Halo 3 and I see two brutes, a grunt, and a sniper jackal in the back, I don't want to just walk through it easy as pie - I want to have to explore various options to try and struggle through it. That's precisely what makes Halo single player fun - it has some of the most entertaining base FPS combat there is as far as I'm concerned, and I love it. Halo 3's (heck, the whole series') campaign has brought me *tremendous* replay value. Your dogged insistence of 5 hours just makes no sense to me, especially when you criticize ME for not putting out averages. Now, you say "I never said it's not worth it for anyone"... So it IS worth it for someone? Well, of COURSE it is. It's worth it for a *LOT* of people. You seem on the verge of admitting that, so why not just do so and get out of this thread altogether since that's what we're arguing about?

So because some dont like MGO its not in my game? Yes MGS game a 10 - 12 hours but its not about mgs its about halo. 3 extra hours is not worth 20 dollars come on now. Same can be said for any game MGS 4 is only 10 hours but i put way more in it. almost triple that since i beat the game on normal hard and extreme. I said i prefer Gow over halo but you said its about value then i said value is not the same for all if you have no interest in itand vis versa. Now you say its worth it to a lot of people which it is because this game will sell but for the wrong reasons.
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#91 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] if you were following the discussion you would know what i was refering to.Rza_rectah

I'm reading through Gamespots Terms of Use and nowhere does it say that I'm responsible for anticipating or interpreting your typos or omissions.

Back on-topic: If you followed this thread, you'd see several people's posts (including mine) that list what makes the game worth the full retail price tag. We didn't leave it out for you to figure out what we "mean". It's right there in black and white (or whatever font color your settings default to).

Enjoy!

you need post rules to help u to understand my post dont use that as a cop outfor your ignorance. Like i said before value for some is not value for all. this game is a rip imo.

If you read my previous posts, you would have known that my reference to the Terms of Use was meant as sarcasm. Sound familiar. The difference: your misinterpretation of my sarcasm doesn't alter the argument. Your omission regarding the number hours in the campaign did. Sorry.... not number of hours; addition of hours. See how easy it is to communicate effectively?

So you feel ripped off based on the arbitrary number of campaign hours you've assigned to a game that hasn't been released....yet totally ignoring other facets of the game that help make it a new experience in a familar universe. Hmm. Ignorance you say......

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

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Being ripped off? This game looks freaking fantastic. The single player is 6-8 hours long, which is in the same ballpark of Gears, Gears 2, Uncharted, R1, R2, and multiple other AAA titles. And you get the full multiplayer experience, so non-Halo 3 owners or whatever, get to have the multiplayer without buying Halo 3. They get all the maps, too. I don't own the latest map packs, so that's a bonus for me. And then Firefight, too.

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#93 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

I'm reading through Gamespots Terms of Use and nowhere does it say that I'm responsible for anticipating or interpreting your typos or omissions.

Back on-topic: If you followed this thread, you'd see several people's posts (including mine) that list what makes the game worth the full retail price tag. We didn't leave it out for you to figure out what we "mean". It's right there in black and white (or whatever font color your settings default to).

Enjoy!

you need post rules to help u to understand my post dont use that as a cop outfor your ignorance. Like i said before value for some is not value for all. this game is a rip imo.

If you read my previous posts, you would have known that my reference to the Terms of Use was meant as sarcasm. Sound familiar. The difference: your misinterpretation of my sarcasm doesn't alter the argument. Your omission regarding the number hours in the campaign did. Sorry.... not number of hours; addition of hours. See how easy it is to communicate effectively?

So you feel ripped off based on the arbitrary number of campaign hours you've assigned to a game that hasn't been released....yet totally ignoring other facets of the game that help make it a new experience in a familar universe. Hmm. Ignorance you say......

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I knew it was sarcasm but I disregarded that. If I don't find value that other find in a game because I don't like the game at all then that makes me ignorant interesting. I don't feel I been ripped off I never bought the game but I feel the game is a rip to those who buy you can't understand simple English can you but yea agree to disagree.
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Being ripped off? This game looks freaking fantastic. The single player is 6-8 hours long, which is in the same ballpark of Gears, Gears 2, Uncharted, R1, R2, and multiple other AAA titles. And you get the full multiplayer experience, so non-Halo 3 owners or whatever, get to have the multiplayer without buying Halo 3. They get all the maps, too. I don't own the latest map packs, so that's a bonus for me. And then Firefight, too.

BioShockOwnz
So like I said before but other can't seem to understand with the GoW. So say you already own halo 3 the Heroic and legendary map packs what would justify the 60 dollar price tag besides the halo in the title.
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Being ripped off? This game looks freaking fantastic. The single player is 6-8 hours long, which is in the same ballpark of Gears, Gears 2, Uncharted, R1, R2, and multiple other AAA titles. And you get the full multiplayer experience, so non-Halo 3 owners or whatever, get to have the multiplayer without buying Halo 3. They get all the maps, too. I don't own the latest map packs, so that's a bonus for me. And then Firefight, too.

Rza_rectah

So like I said before but other can't seem to understand with the GoW. So say you already own halo 3 the Heroic and legendary map packs what would justify the 60 dollar price tag besides the halo in the title.

Errr, because I want to play the freaking campaign. :| I paid $60 for Uncharted with a 7-8 hour campaign. And I thought it was worth it. What's so hard to comprehend here?

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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Being ripped off? This game looks freaking fantastic. The single player is 6-8 hours long, which is in the same ballpark of Gears, Gears 2, Uncharted, R1, R2, and multiple other AAA titles. And you get the full multiplayer experience, so non-Halo 3 owners or whatever, get to have the multiplayer without buying Halo 3. They get all the maps, too. I don't own the latest map packs, so that's a bonus for me. And then Firefight, too.

BioShockOwnz

So like I said before but other can't seem to understand with the GoW. So say you already own halo 3 the Heroic and legendary map packs what would justify the 60 dollar price tag besides the halo in the title.

Errr, because I want to play the freaking campaign. :| I paid $60 for Uncharted with a 7-8 hour campaign. And I thought it was worth it. What's so hard to comprehend here?

um uncharted was aroun 10-12 hours.
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Being ripped off? This game looks freaking fantastic. The single player is 6-8 hours long, which is in the same ballpark of Gears, Gears 2, Uncharted, R1, R2, and multiple other AAA titles. And you get the full multiplayer experience, so non-Halo 3 owners or whatever, get to have the multiplayer without buying Halo 3. They get all the maps, too. I don't own the latest map packs, so that's a bonus for me. And then Firefight, too.

BioShockOwnz

So like I said before but other can't seem to understand with the GoW. So say you already own halo 3 the Heroic and legendary map packs what would justify the 60 dollar price tag besides the halo in the title.

Errr, because I want to play the freaking campaign. :| I paid $60 for Uncharted with a 7-8 hour campaign. And I thought it was worth it. What's so hard to comprehend here?

the campaign is gunna be half *** its only a DLC not a full fledged game. You dont see rockstar charging 60 for BGT or LATD those are both the same length aswell.

Say it with me now RIP OFF.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"] So like I said before but other can't seem to understand with the GoW. So say you already own halo 3 the Heroic and legendary map packs what would justify the 60 dollar price tag besides the halo in the title. sexxxyboy

Errr, because I want to play the freaking campaign. :| I paid $60 for Uncharted with a 7-8 hour campaign. And I thought it was worth it. What's so hard to comprehend here?

um uncharted was aroun 10-12 hours.

Yeah, uh no. Not for me. If it took you longer, then cool beans, bud. I could explore New Mambosa in ODST and stretch out its time, too.

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Firstly, i own all 3 consoles, so no fanboy here as my 360 probably gets the most play time. I just don't get why people are so excited about them being ripped off for what is, at its core a $60 DLC :?.

Whats so special about it?

Oakfront

Nathan Fillion's in it. Beyond that I literally have no interest in this game. Halo is a dead IP to me.

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[QUOTE="Oakfront"]

Firstly, i own all 3 consoles, so no fanboy here as my 360 probably gets the most play time. I just don't get why people are so excited about them being ripped off for what is, at its core a $60 DLC :?.

Whats so special about it?

InsaneBasura

Nathan Fillion's in it.

no ****? malcolm reynolds in halo? neat