Whats to hate about 3D?

Its come to my attention that alot of hardcore gamers seem to hate the idea of 3D gaming, and revile it as a joke, and as a gimmick. What I wanna know is whats to hate about it, and whats to love, or even expect of it? I as an open minded individual can always see the potential in just about everything(excluding handheld 3d of course, but thats an entire subject entirely) and I see alot of cool, and expressional way to immerse we as gamers deeper into the games built around the technology.

Its come to my attention that alot of hardcore gamers seem to hate the idea of 3D gaming, and revile it as a joke, and as a gimmick. What I wanna know is whats to hate about it, and whats to love, or even expect of it? I as an open minded individual can always see the potential in just about everything(excluding handheld 3d of course, but thats an entire subject entirely) and I see alot of cool, and expressional way to immerse we as gamers deeper into the games built around the technology.

Lable1985

That's exactly the way I'm feeling. By their logic, HDTVs are a gimmick.

i think it's kinda like what happened before avatar. before it came out most people hated 3d and considered it a gimmick. then they saw it and everyone raved how awsome it was. i think it will be about the same here it's just going to take a crysis or a killzone 3 to change everyone's mind

I've heard very mixed reactions from 3D TV's. Most of which were delivered with "It's alright" or "The effect is not as great as the companies are pushing them to be like." Also, it's the glasses that people are heavily criticizing about 3D. Ultimately, I don't want to consider buying a 3D TV if the experience is just "alright" to a lot of the consumers. If I really want to buy something as expensive as a 3D TV, then the quality of the technology should be 100x better than just being "alright".

Now, I think a lot of gamers here are praising the 3DS's 3D. Why? Because it is now proven that the 3D works, and that it works extremely well - all of which without requiring clunky glasses. I think in this new age of 3D gaming most of us gamers will go with the 3DS over 3D television sets, because the technology doesn't seem to be quite there yet for home televisions.

Its a matter of hating things you can't have. 3DTVs are way too expensive and the companies are trying to shove it in our faces. :P

3D like what sony is offering

-its too much money

-it doesnt work all that well

-you need a new really expensive TV after we JUST upgraded to HD not too long ago

-Glasses are stupid

-Gives me a headache

3D what nintendo is offering looks awesome though

-Affordable

-No glasses

-no new tv required

-even if it does hurt eyes or give head aches which I havent heard any reports about it you can turn down the intensity of it so it should ease things up for you

im not hating. but i just don't care until the next time i buy a TV. which will be in 6 or 7 year. if its still about that then, then i'l care

Its a matter of hating things you can't have. 3DTVs are way too expensive and the companies are trying to shove it in our faces. :P

PSdual_wielder

I would say most of the people that frequent this forum don't really think things through and just have kneejerk reactions to everything. I havn't supported Nintendo at all really since the N64 but as soon as I heard about the 3DS I knew it could be something special. After hearing the reactions from all of these respected video game publications I am very excited for this and will be preordering as soon as possible. I can see the argument that 3D is a gimmick but I don't agree at all if anything all of these motion control schemes are the real gimmick and 3D is actually a useful step forward for video game tech. Once we actually have 3D for the consoles I think motion control will have alot more viability and purpose than it does now.

I think that 3D really doesn't enhances the gaming experience in the same way as going from stereo audio to 5.1 surround or better. In fact I think that in some games -online shooters, specifically- the perception is worse and reduces your chances to detect potential foes.

3D gaming has other disadvantages, also: is expensive, and in monitor displays the 120 Hz technology can only be achieved in LCDs with TN panels, which are a lot worse in image quality than the ones with SIPS and MVA panels (TN only uses 6 bit per color channel as opposite to the 8 or 10 bit in SIPS, the contrast and view angles are much worse, etc.).

This is why I'm not excited about 3D gaming.

I hate 3D movies, no way am I wearing glasses over glasses againohthemanatee

On paper, it's a great concept. In theatres, it's ok since you're a captive audience in front of a huge screen and they hand out the glasses to everyone.

At home, it requires a big investment and logistically, it's a bit inconvenient. First, I have to wear the glasses. As someone who already has glasses, it's tolerable in the theatre since I only need to wear them for a couple hours. I don't think my game sessions could last longer than that. If I have a lot of people coming over, some people are just out of luck. I won't invest in multiple pairs of these glasses just for guests.

The 3DS is more practical since it's cheaper, doesn't requiri 3D glasses. Gaming on a handheld is done in short bursts. It's meant for one person viewing.

Firstly I would like to say that I am a fan of 3D, I like it at the movies, I love the Nvidia version on the PC, and when it is ready for the PS3 I will buy the TV and glasses for it.

However ... we are now starting to go against what makes a console attractive to a lot of people ... i.e. cost and convenience!

When we go to 3D on consoles, the simple $300 box that plays blueray and games, now requires significant expenditure to enjoy the benefits of 3D. Firstly you obviously need a TV that is 3D capable (lets factor in $1.5K-$4K dependent on size and brand) you also need a set of glasses for each person who wants to play games or watch movies. At $200 a pop for a family of four we are starting to look at some serious moolah for the family to enjoy 3D on a console.

Makes the cost and incovenience of a highend PC shrivel in comparison, so this is why you are seeing the hate for 3D. Most people cant afford it, so they hate it blindly, just like some people hate the gaming PC even though all evidence suggests it is the premium gaming system. It is all about making what you can afford attractive and what you cant afford unattractive so you feel better about your purchasing capability.

3D isn't for everyone but it is as optional as HD is on your HD tv. If the HD is too colourful for you, just plug in your comp cables. It's just an optional enhancement for consumers, am I going to get a 3D tv anytime soon? heck no but in 3-4 years when they are the price of what HD tvs are now, I might think about it.

Why do people put up defenses to something that is not required is beyond me. Pushing Tech is the greatest thing we can do. Some day we won't need the glasses.

3D like what sony is offering

-its too much money

-it doesnt work all that well

-you need a new really expensive TV after we JUST upgraded to HD not too long ago

-Glasses are stupid

-Gives me a headache

3D what nintendo is offering looks awesome though

-Affordable

-No glasses

-no new tv required

-even if it does hurt eyes or give head aches which I havent heard any reports about it you can turn down the intensity of it so it should ease things up for you

VendettaRed07

yeah I think its a tad too soon in a way, I wish they would of improved those little 3d helmets you just put on your head like when I saw them back in the day in the 90s...Always wanted to try it but never did...shame. Anyway the day they enhance those 3d helmet thingys like 10xbillion times better then thats when I will try 3d in gaming.

It's not that I hate 3D... In fact, I would love a proper 3D experience, there are some concerns I have.

1) Developer support. Similar to how motion control was supported by casual games (not all of them being bad, mind you), 3D will be supported by generic action games trying to make a quick buck off of the cool 3D effect. Games will have ugly graphics supposedly made up for by the 3D, and they will also be really short games with no replay value. Either that, or you get a ****load of remakes. So, for me as a consumer, even if it has a ton of support, thats the direction its going.

2) The 3D illusion requires having two fully functioning eyes. What happens if you have an eye problem in one eye? Sorry, games are now unplayable to you. Also, even if you do have a set of fully functional eyes, the 3D effect can be quite nausiating. People threw up after watching Avatar because the 3D effects made them ill.

Regarding point 2, what I do like about the 3DS is that if you are getting sick or you do have eye problems, you CAN turn off the 3D effect. That means, with the 3DS, you can still enjoy and play your games no mater what.

As much as hardcore gamers like to pretend they embrace new things and change, constantly complaining about a supposed lack of new IPs, they actually hate change. They whine about 3d. They whine about the new motion based peripherals even though they do not have to buy them. There is absolutely nothing wrong with 3d so long as it remains and option and not a requirement for the bulk of releases. Gamers just like to complain about everything.vashkey

After about 40 minutes, 3D programming gives me a massive headache. A 2 or 3 hour movie may benefit from being in 3D, but I don't see the same thing happening when you go on a gaming binge for 10 hours, especially when you have to wear glasses.Canvas_Of_Flesh

Besides, I doubt that many people sit and play games for any more than two hours at a time.vashkey

Have you ever played STALKER? Because it kind of just happens in that game all the time. I'm playing for what feels like an hour, and I look at my clock and it's been three hours.

Home 3D just isn't ready for the market with it being so expensive. Still, better to have it out now so that by the time next generation consoles come around, the 3DTVs will be cheaper thanks to them being on the market for a long time, more efficient manufacturing, etc... similar to the HDTV roll-out.

The way I see it, it's not about disliking the 3D effect, it's about having 3D forced down our throats every other minute. They love telling us we need to buy new Blu-Ray players, new HDMI 1.4 compatible AV receivers, ridiculous 3D glasses and wait for it...new 3D HDTV's, just after mass adoption of HDTV's has hit in the last 12-18 months.

GTFO.

3D has never enhanced my experience and sometimes it's even hampered it. I'm still buying the 3DS regardless but I would be just as happy if it did not include 3D.

Its an extraordinarily expensive way to make you cross your eyes. Which is why the 3DS will probably be better at 3D than anything else out there.

Its come to my attention that alot of hardcore gamers seem to hate the idea of 3D gaming, and revile it as a joke, and as a gimmick. What I wanna know is whats to hate about it, and whats to love, or even expect of it? I as an open minded individual can always see the potential in just about everything(excluding handheld 3d of course, but thats an entire subject entirely) and I see alot of cool, and expressional way to immerse we as gamers deeper into the games built around the technology.

Lable1985

To be honest most of the hate comes from the price of the 3DTVs. A lot of people will try to justify why they wont be buying it (though they just can't afford it). On the other hand there are those people who actually don't like 3D for a reason such as stacking glasses, vision problems, etc... Personally after seeing the technology I think it still has a ways to go. After testing out the Panasonic 3D plasmas which are the best out of all the 3DTVs, I can say I was annoyed by the fact I could actually see the shutter flickering on the glasses. Though this problem will go away once faster TVs come out. Anyways other than that I have no problem with the technology and I think it will be a great feature.

i think it's kinda like what happened before avatar. before it came out most people hated 3d and considered it a gimmick. then they saw it and everyone raved how awsome it was. i think it will be about the same here it's just going to take a crysis or a killzone 3 to change everyone's mind

Ragashahs

Its a matter of hating things you can't have. 3DTVs are way too expensive and the companies are trying to shove it in our faces. :P

PSdual_wielder

hmm, one more thing, why do people complain about the glasses?Lable1985

Maybe they already wear glasses. Glasses over glasses is not comfortable, and what good is 3-d, if you can't see it because you took off your prescription glasses?

ianuilliam

[QUOTE="Lable1985"]hmm, one more thing, why do people complain about the glasses?ianuilliam

3D as an idea is very interesting. It's a way to immerse you in a whole new way.

The route we're going down with stereoscopic 3D, has been around for quite a while (1800's in one form or another) and has its drawbacks (causing headaches in certain cases). We've seen numerous resurgences and it's never truly stuck, however what we're experiencing today is a huge push towards it becoming a standard.

It is because 3D still isn't developed to a quality level that is acceptable, yet we are seeing all forms of visual entertainment jumping on the bandwagon. Avatar had good 3D effects in some scenes, but you really had to focus on it in order to actually see it clearly. When i see 3D that is the same quality as regular 2D visuals, without having to strain my eyes, then i will like it.

Its cause you have to wear glasses. Although thanks to the 3DS there no need for glasses and I'm definitely excited about that.

Because people forget that HDTVs, at their start, were too expensive for most people and had little to no content for them. It's the same with every tech that comes out. Also, the fact that some consoles won't have the ability means that there will be more hate than normal. Kind of like HD with the Wii.

[QUOTE="Lable1985"]

Its come to my attention that alot of hardcore gamers seem to hate the idea of 3D gaming, and revile it as a joke, and as a gimmick. What I wanna know is whats to hate about it, and whats to love, or even expect of it? I as an open minded individual can always see the potential in just about everything(excluding handheld 3d of course, but thats an entire subject entirely) and I see alot of cool, and expressional way to immerse we as gamers deeper into the games built around the technology.

AncientDozer

Its come to my attention that alot of hardcore gamers seem to hate the idea of 3D gaming, and revile it as a joke, and as a gimmick. What I wanna know is whats to hate about it, and whats to love, or even expect of it? I as an open minded individual can always see the potential in just about everything(excluding handheld 3d of course, but thats an entire subject entirely) and I see alot of cool, and expressional way to immerse we as gamers deeper into the games built around the technology.

Lable1985

[QUOTE="Lable1985"]

Its come to my attention that alot of hardcore gamers seem to hate the idea of 3D gaming, and revile it as a joke, and as a gimmick. What I wanna know is whats to hate about it, and whats to love, or even expect of it? I as an open minded individual can always see the potential in just about everything(excluding handheld 3d of course, but thats an entire subject entirely) and I see alot of cool, and expressional way to immerse we as gamers deeper into the games built around the technology.

bsman00

The average person just is not ready to pay $2000 to play killzone in 3d.

[QUOTE="bsman00"][QUOTE="Lable1985"]

Its come to my attention that alot of hardcore gamers seem to hate the idea of 3D gaming, and revile it as a joke, and as a gimmick. What I wanna know is whats to hate about it, and whats to love, or even expect of it? I as an open minded individual can always see the potential in just about everything(excluding handheld 3d of course, but thats an entire subject entirely) and I see alot of cool, and expressional way to immerse we as gamers deeper into the games built around the technology.

Lable1985

Poor? this is really funny you think that everyone that does not feel like shelling out $200+ to play a 2d videogame must be poor? Wow thats interesting.