What's wrong with camping?

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#1 lowkey254
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I don't see an issue with it personally as I do it sometimes. Why should I run out there and get my head blown off when I can sit back and blow someone else's head backwards? My friends and I had an entire lobby to ourselves and it seems like the moment you stop moving you become a camper. Trying to regain your energy? You're a camper. Trying to feel your surroundings? You're a camper. This word is being overused. I may camp sometimes (stay in the same area for more than 2 minutes) but so what? Just because I'm not playing the way you want me to I get called a camper, lol, that sounds like a childish complaint that I would have made in the 2nd grade. Grow up, and learn a new strategy.

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#2 SaltyMeatballs
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It's better than running around like a headless chicken for sure.
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#3 LegatoSkyheart
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It's Cheap and Cowardly.

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#4 ZombeGoast
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Its boring and cheap. People only do it for K/D and not play the game for fun.

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#5 Skittles_McGee
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There's too many bugs and spiders in the woods. Last time I was in a tent, I woke up and there was a spider on the top so big, I could probably have fought it if I didn't hit it with a lantern. ... ...oh, different kind of camping. Iunno then.
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#6 Snakemaster9
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Because it is annoying.

For say in KZ3 Beta, as soon as I came out the door 1 guy kept spawn camping me. So it was like yeah what do I do I can't move or Im dead

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#7 dommeus
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If it's cold and wet then camping isn't much fun. Also if the sun rises in the morning the inside of the tent heats up very quickly. Also most tent's are pretty small so they aren't much fun to spend time in.

Depends where you camp I guess. Camping at a festival isn't too bad because you have facilities nearby. Camping in the wild comes with all different sorts of risks. Flora, fauna etc

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#8 glez13
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I'm not sure but I remember that it's an old PC excuse in the same category as "he's hacking" or "lag".

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#9 Harisemo
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nothing wrong with camping but something is definitely wrong with people who keep getting killed bya camper in the same spot and then they moan about it

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#10 Cherokee_Jack
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Sitting in a hiding spot with a short-range weapon, and shooting anyone who unwittingly walks into your line of sight, is an obnoxious way to play the game and is not sporting.

That's the only thing I define as camping. Staying in one spot sniping, or just defending a room/building, is not camping.

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#11 commander
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don't listen to what they say, i use camping and run and gun, maybe some different tactics i don't know. Do whatever it takes to win besides cheating. people always go camper because they can't handle ya. If a camper works on my nerves , i kill em, if he kills me i'll just suck it up. Camping can be very cool , it's a shame i only had a decent pc this year otherwise crysis could have been pretty good for camping with all that jungle. I call of duty i have some classes made for camping but black ops isn't really that good for it the maps are too small or the big ones haven't got a lot of camping places. You need forest or jungle to do that.
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Its not playing the game the way its meant to be played.

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#13 cainetao11
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It's better than running around like a headless chicken for sure.SaltyMeatballs
YES! Thank you for giving a name to my strategy! I suck at online, no doubt. But I have fun whether I die or kill. Camping doesn't bother me. I just get bored when I stand still to long. Get shot at for real, and this stuff some how falls into perspective. It doesn't matter.
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#14 yellonet
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It's nothing wrong with it. It's a tactic. People who complain about campers/camping is those who doesn't understand tactics at all and just want games to be mindless grinding.

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#15 lamprey263
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I hate it when all my team wants to do is camp and we've no offensive capabilities, it's not so bad if the person camping picks a good spot that'll get a lot of kills, but lots of campers barely get any kills, that pisses me off, they're just a waste of a player when they do that
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#16 racing1750
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Last night in COD4 I went 18-7 in Vacant. The other team were pretty good so I decided to go for a 7 kill streak to get use some kills. We lost by two kills. At the end of the match I got a message from a guy who clearly had issues in his life - He said "Wow you camper you camped, yet you got two less kills than me your pathetic and then he started to raise his voice calling me for everything. The way I see it is running around the map in Hardcore in COD4 is suicide unless you have very quick reactions. I don't camp all the time, but somethimes you gotta lay back and kill the unexpecting tools running around like headless chickens.
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#17 commander
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a good camper always changes spots after a few kills. You just got me to an idea to start a thread
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#18 racing1750
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It's nothing wrong with it. It's a tactic. People who complain about campers/camping is those who doesn't understand tactics at all and just want games to be mindless grinding.

yellonet
True. The guy who sent me the message must of thought he was godlike but in the end he ended up with 20-10 and me 18-7. My "camping* Helped our team get back a lot of kills he's just pissed that I kept killing him :P
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#19 trasherhead
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If someone can sit in the same spot and get any more then 3 kills, then his opponents simply suck. Its as simple as that. If you know where he is then hunt his ass down with any means available. A couple of nades later he won't be in that spot any more. If you want a game where everybody runs around and can take hits like they are the combined panzer waffe, then play UT or Halo.
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#20 cainetao11
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Its not playing the game the way its meant to be played.

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Mine didn't come with any instructions on how it's meant to be played?
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#21 Fumpa
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I have no problem camping if my team sucks and I end up getting killed whenever I make my guy visible to the enemy. If the other team is full of some team/clan, and my team is unorganized, then I camp and love it. I also camp sometimes when I want a less stressful gaming experience.
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#22 racing1750
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If someone can sit in the same spot and get any more then 3 kills, then his opponents simply suck. Its as simple as that. If you know where he is then hunt his ass down with any means available. A couple of nades later he won't be in that spot any more. If you want a game where everybody runs around and can take hits like they are the combined panzer waffe, then play UT or Halo.trasherhead
You're right. The people who complain about campers aren't skilled enough to kill them or they're just plain dumb.
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#23 tagyhag
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It's annoying because it makes your opponent have to use trial and error to actually find you. AND because if your teammate is the one camping, he usually isn't doing much for the team. Example: BC2.
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#24 CDUB316
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Its not playing the game the way its meant to be played.

seanmcloughlin

so every game that has a sniper rifle your meant to run and gun with it?

i can hear the devs now

"ok...so we're gonna put some sniper rifles in our game....with these weapons your MEANT to run around and try and no scope people....people who use it are gonna have horrible K/D ratios...but man, when they finally get a kill, it's gonna be EPIC"

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#25 juno84
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The game does not have mechanics that prevent camping. If the game allows it, it doesn't matter how "cheap" a tactic is considered. I mean seriously. It's like I'm reading forum posts about Quake1 from well over a decade ago. Camping is situationally useful at best, but any good player should be able to deal with it no problem. It's as bad as complaining about being grabbed repeatedly in a fighting game. The problem isn't with the mechanics, the problem is with players being terrible and unwilling to adapt and improve. If you don't like the mechanics that are in a game, you can either deal with it or play something else.
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#26 mrmusicman247
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Absolutely nothing. Unless you're spawn camping. Which is cheap. When I played BC2 with my buds, I would be sniper and hide in the woods and pick off the people near the objective while they came in and got everyone else. Is that cheating? I don't think so.
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#27 Indie_Hitman
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[QUOTE="dommeus"]

If it's cold and wet then camping isn't much fun. Also if the sun rises in the morning the inside of the tent heats up very quickly. Also most tent's are pretty small so they aren't much fun to spend time in.

Depends where you camp I guess. Camping at a festival isn't too bad because you have facilities nearby. Camping in the wild comes with all different sorts of risks. Flora, fauna etc

As opposed to the sun not rising in the morning? lol
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#28 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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it pretty much depends on the situation. camping in battlefields doesn't get you much points, but the again, sometimes you need to camp on capture points to defend them.

getting called camper when defending in rush-mode is pretty weird... you're supposed to camp then. then again, when attacking, camping wont get your team very far...

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#29 2Chalupas
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Objective based games = supposed to camp strategically around the objectives. Especially on defense. You don't have to be "close", just at least have the objective in mind.I don't feel bad when someone has a great spot in defense and camps "properly". It is annoying when the player is camping literally nowhere near the objective in some random spot. or if you know the alarm is going off and the guy just ignores it and continues on camping in some ridiculous location - probably somewhere close to your spawn (usually looking just to kill from behind and get a couple cheap kills himself before being found out)

People that camp in deathmatch or free-for-all modes are just total scrubs IMO - i don't care what their kill/death ratio is. I don't want to play "hide and seek".

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#30 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="trasherhead"]If someone can sit in the same spot and get any more then 3 kills, then his opponents simply suck. Its as simple as that. If you know where he is then hunt his ass down with any means available. A couple of nades later he won't be in that spot any more. If you want a game where everybody runs around and can take hits like they are the combined panzer waffe, then play UT or Halo.racing1750
You're right. The people who complain about campers aren't skilled enough to kill them or they're just plain dumb.

It's extremely easy to kill a camper once you know where he is, but if you're trying to move quickly through the map you're not going to carefully check every possible camping spot. The first time a camper kills you is usually not your fault.

Being so easily countered just makes it a more irritating and cheap way to play, really.

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#31 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Its not playing the game the way its meant to be played.

CDUB316

so every game that has a sniper rifle your meant to run and gun with it?

i can hear the devs now

"ok...so we're gonna put some sniper rifles in our game....with these weapons your MEANT to run around and try and no scope people....people who use it are gonna have horrible K/D ratios...but man, when they finally get a kill, it's gonna be EPIC"

Sniping =/= Camping.

You Sitting Still in a corner where no one can see you with an Assault Rifle or Shotgun is Camping.

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#32 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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People that camp in deathmatch or free-for-all modes are just total scrubs IMO - i don't care what their kill/death ratio is. I don't want to play "hide and seek".

2Chalupas

yeah, i have never understood that. why would anyone do it? it's not usually that effective, and it's dead boring.

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#33 Nonstop-Madness
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I don't hate camping if 1 person is doing it but if multiple people are doing it ........ I hate it. Like last night, I was playing the KZ3 beta and it was 6 vs 2 ...... they camped us so hard yet the 2 of us had the better k/d and pts when the match finished ..... thats the kind of camping I do not enjoy ,whether Im one of the 6 or 2 guys.,

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#34 tagyhag
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I don't hate camping if 1 person is doing it but if multiple people are doing it ........ I hate it. Like last night, I was playing the KZ3 beta and it was 6 vs 2 ...... they camped us so hard yet the 2 of us had the better k/d and pts when the match finished ..... thats kind of camping, I do not enjoy whether Im one of the 6 or 2 guys. Nonstop-Madness

Oh my.... :oops:

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#35 Lto_thaG
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Campers should be punished.

Instakill them.I think CSS did this in some servers.

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#36 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Its not playing the game the way its meant to be played.

LegatoSkyheart

so every game that has a sniper rifle your meant to run and gun with it?

i can hear the devs now

"ok...so we're gonna put some sniper rifles in our game....with these weapons your MEANT to run around and try and no scope people....people who use it are gonna have horrible K/D ratios...but man, when they finally get a kill, it's gonna be EPIC"

Sniping =/= Camping.

You Sitting Still in a corner where no one can see you with an Assault Rifle or Shotgun is Camping.

i've been called a camper PLENTY of times with a sniper

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#37 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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i gotta wonder why people have such a huge problem with this. it's not like it makes anyone invincible. actually it makes for an easy target, since you know where to find that camper.

ofcourse i hate baseraping, but that's another story.

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#38 Dibdibdobdobo
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Theres no rules in War apart from.... Whoever dies 1st, dies quickest!!!
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#39 racing1750
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[QUOTE="racing1750"][QUOTE="trasherhead"]If someone can sit in the same spot and get any more then 3 kills, then his opponents simply suck. Its as simple as that. If you know where he is then hunt his ass down with any means available. A couple of nades later he won't be in that spot any more. If you want a game where everybody runs around and can take hits like they are the combined panzer waffe, then play UT or Halo.Cherokee_Jack

You're right. The people who complain about campers aren't skilled enough to kill them or they're just plain dumb.

It's extremely easy to kill a camper once you know where he is, but if you're trying to move quickly through the map you're not going to carefully check every possible camping spot. The first time a camper kills you is usually not your fault.

Being so easily countered just makes it a more irritating and cheap way to play, really.

True, but If you keep getting killed by a camper then it's usually your fault. Campers in TDM are extremely affective to win. In S&D no one really camps because the game mode is made to defend and attack, so everyone has to move to win the game. I will camp if I feel like it, but sometimes I do the occasional run and gun :P
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#40 racing1750
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Theres no rules in War apart from.... Whoever dies 1st, dies quickest!!!Dibdibdobdobo
It's true. Everyone has their own play style. Some of use like to wait for unexpecting people, some of us like to run around the map trying to no scope and failing miserably :P
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#41 Richymisiak
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i really don't mind campers, sure the ones who are genuinely good at camping are very frustrating to kill, but thats the same for anyone who's good at a certain playstyle.
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#42 mitu123
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What's right with camping?

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#43 campzor
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Its boring and cheap. People only do it for K/D and not play the game for fun.

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wrong... there is no K/D Ranks , leaderboards etc...in counter strike / original cod... yet people still camped.. lets all just run around like headless chickens spraying and praying. Camping is a legitimate strategy and inb4redvsbluelink.... The people complaining are the ones that cant deal with campers.. Ive camped im not gonna deny it , but i also rush and take a tour of the map here and there yet i dont complain about campers...
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#44 slimjimbadboy
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I think it's a legit strategy, if done well you can put a hurt on the other team. Anyone complaining about running into the same death several times should just learn from it instead of the rage.

I should also say, like a bad run and gun type of player, the one with 4-15 going the same way each time and not learning, there are bad campers.

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#45 Demonjoe93
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It's cheap, makes the game boring, and ruins the fun of the game.

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#46 kungfuchaos
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Campers can be a pain, but I get personal satisfaction of getting them out of their little hide-a-way. I remember a game of Black Ops about a week ago when i had been killed like 3 times in a row by this one guy. I killed him on my 4th try and then killed him 5 successive times after that as his insisted on trying to get his spot back. He decided on a new strategy at that point.:lol: People like that crack me up because you know that each and every game time they get that map and that certain spawn, they go to that very spot.

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#47 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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It's Cheap and Cowardly.

LegatoSkyheart

So are real soldiers by your logic. They don't run blindy into open spaces or around corners and jump around like they overdosed on coffee.

Why is it "cowardly" to minimize your exposure in a fire zone and keep yourself protected? That's what actual soldiers do. It's a strategic approach to battle. People get mad because they make you have to work for your kill. But you're supposed to work for it anyway. Seems like some just want to complain because the player didn't throw themselves feely in their cross hairs. Oh the nerve of them!!

I'd take it even further that there are two types of campers;
* the static camper who always camps from the very same same spot
* the adaptive camper who camps at a spot, but never for very long, moving from spot to spot

The first kind is easy to deal with as he's very predictable. The second will make you work for that kill, but then again, that's how it should be.

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#48 razgriz_101
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It's Cheap and Cowardly.

LegatoSkyheart

this and those guys who camp think they are gods gift to "x" game.

Altho i prefer the term bush wookie and besides this sums up camping perfectly imo especially in team based games.

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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

It's Cheap and Cowardly.

razgriz_101

this and those guys who camp think they are gods gift to "x" game.

Altho i prefer the term bush wookie and besides this sums up camping perfectly imo especially in team based games.

i dunno... i love myself some easy dogtags.

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#50 NWA90s
Member since 2010 • 859 Posts

Because it is annoying.

For say in KZ3 Beta, as soon as I came out the door 1 guy kept spawn camping me. So it was like yeah what do I do I can't move or Im dead

Snakemaster9
thats why tou got a class called tactican and marksman