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#1 Sonysexual1
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http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

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#2 superclocked
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The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...
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#3 bobbetybob
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Some interesting stuff there "The majority of the masses care only about the console, except that the success of the Kinect carries much more weight to us. The sensor costs almost as much as the console to make." That's pretty insane, so does that mean they could potentially have a $250 console if they removed it?
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The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked
1.2 is very much so less then 1.84
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The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked
ok, but the PS4 also has more ram available and more CPU cores available for games aswell, with no OS on the main 8 cores, they will be freed up and have even more performance over the xb1 though.... not doubting they can make great looking games on xbox one, but theyll look even greater on ps4
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...stereointegrity
1.2 is very much so less then 1.84

Not really.
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...stereointegrity
1.2 is very much so less then 1.84

* 1.23
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The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked

Yes, in total TF performance, but we also know that 10% of the GPU's power is being reserved for the OS. For gaming, specifically, it's around 40% less.

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pretty much everyone knew this already. i dont really care anyway, you play the games not the specs
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...Sonysexual1

Yes, in total TF performance, but we also know that 10% of the GPU's power is being reserved for the OS. For gaming, specifically, it's around 40% less.

And how do we know that the same isn't true for the PS4?
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked
1.2 is very much so less then 1.84

* 1.23

1.23 repeating*
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LOL, I just love how this guy is avoiding all the questions about the OS memory usage.

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked

Yes, in total TF performance, but we also know that 10% of the GPU's power is being reserved for the OS. For gaming, specifically, it's around 40% less.

And how do we know that the same isn't true for the PS4?

Because the PS4 has dedicated chips for handling background tasks. The PS4 is more optimized than the disaster that is XBO.

And if it were true, don't you think we would have heard it from neogaf by now?

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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Yes, in total TF performance, but we also know that 10% of the GPU's power is being reserved for the OS. For gaming, specifically, it's around 40% less.

Sonysexual1

And how do we know that the same isn't true for the PS4?

Because the PS4 has dedicated chips for handling background tasks. The PS4 is more optimized than the disaster that is XBO.

And if it were true, don't you think we would have heard it from neogaf by now?

It has a dedicated ARM processor to help take some of the OS load off of the CPU, but that has nothing to do with the GPU. The XBox One also has hardware that helps to take load away from the CPU...
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Then he goes on to says that Xbox One games looks as good as games on High End PC. lol!! Game over!!

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]And how do we know that the same isn't true for the PS4?superclocked

Because the PS4 has dedicated chips for handling background tasks. The PS4 is more optimized than the disaster that is XBO.

And if it were true, don't you think we would have heard it from neogaf by now?

It has a dedicated ARM processor to help take some of the OS load off of the CPU, but that has nothing to do with the GPU. The XBox One also has hardware that helps to take load away from the CPU...

Are you still living in the early 2000s?

GPUs can now be used for general computing. It's highly likely that part of the ONE's GPU is being used to help the CPU, as the CPU inside the ONE is weaksauce.

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

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http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

blackace

Then he going on to says that Xbox One games looks as good as games on High End PC. lol!! Game over!!

Yes, it's too bad that the PS4 has already shown it can run open-world, CGI-like games without it being sub-30 FPS.

Can't say the same for the linear, crap graphics RYSE.

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

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http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

blackace

Then he goes on to says that Xbox One games looks as good as games on High End PC. lol!! Game over!!

lol, the OP's thread has backfired...
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]And how do we know that the same isn't true for the PS4?superclocked

Because the PS4 has dedicated chips for handling background tasks. The PS4 is more optimized than the disaster that is XBO.

And if it were true, don't you think we would have heard it from neogaf by now?

It has a dedicated ARM processor to help take some of the OS load off of the CPU, but that has nothing to do with the GPU. The XBox One also has hardware that helps to take load away from the CPU...

what else does the gpu in the ps4 have to process.....the arm chip is probably an SoC with its own dedicated mobile gpu for controlling things like the OS and hardware acceleration
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#20 blackace
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Because the PS4 has dedicated chips for handling background tasks. The PS4 is more optimized than the disaster that is XBO.

And if it were true, don't you think we would have heard it from neogaf by now?

It has a dedicated ARM processor to help take some of the OS load off of the CPU, but that has nothing to do with the GPU. The XBox One also has hardware that helps to take load away from the CPU...

Are you still living in the early 2000s?

GPUs can now be used for general computing. It's highly likely that part of the ONE's GPU is being used to help the CPU, as the CPU inside the ONE is weaksauce.

It's all irrelevant when in the end all the games look and play the same. That's why specs are meaningless. It was confirmed a long time ago that the PS4 has slightly more powerful hardware then XBox One. It was also confirmed that M$ would be using the cloud, software tools, optimized drivers and DX11 to compensate for some of it's weaker hardware. In the end, the specs won't matter at all. Just like they didn't matter with the PS3 and XBox 360.
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:lol: I knew it. Lems thought they were only paying $100 for Kinect. Without it Xbone is a $300 console at the most. $200 spy cam :lol:

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He didn't really reveal any new information.

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#23 superclocked
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="stereointegrity"] 1.2 is very much so less then 1.84

* 1.23

1.23 repeating*

* 1.2288 TFLOPS
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#24 superclocked
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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Because the PS4 has dedicated chips for handling background tasks. The PS4 is more optimized than the disaster that is XBO.

And if it were true, don't you think we would have heard it from neogaf by now?

stereointegrity
It has a dedicated ARM processor to help take some of the OS load off of the CPU, but that has nothing to do with the GPU. The XBox One also has hardware that helps to take load away from the CPU...

what else does the gpu in the ps4 have to process.....the arm chip is probably an SoC with its own dedicated mobile gpu for controlling things like the OS and hardware acceleration

Maybe so, but it's all speculation at this point. Hell, the official XBox One specs haven't even been released by Microsoft...
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Still don't know the rules?
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#26 blackace
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

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http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

Then he going on to says that Xbox One games looks as good as games on High End PC. lol!! Game over!!

Yes, it's too bad that the PS4 has already shown it can run open-world, CGI-like games without it being sub-30 FPS.

Can't say the same for the linear, crap graphics RYSE.

GoW was linear too, so i guess that was crap as well. Please shut up. Every developer and gamer at the E3 said Ryse looked fantastic. Damage control won't change that. PS4 has show it has games that lose FPS and had pop-in and lag. It can't even run any games at 60fps yet without having issues. Like i said, specs are meaningless. It all comes down to the games and how they look and play overall. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4
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Still don't know the rules? Badosh

TEH RULLEZ!!! WHY U NO FOLLOW TEH RULEZ!!! :cry:

System Wars is a joke. Nobody but a few no-life posters here care about levels.

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#28 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="blackace"] Then he going on to says that Xbox One games looks as good as games on High End PC. lol!! Game over!!blackace

Yes, it's too bad that the PS4 has already shown it can run open-world, CGI-like games without it being sub-30 FPS.

Can't say the same for the linear, crap graphics RYSE.

GoW was linear too, so i guess that was crap as well. Please shut up. Every developer and gamer at the E3 said Ryse looked fantastic. Damage control won't change that. PS4 has show it has games that lose FPS and had pop-in and lag. It can't even run any games at 60fps yet without having issues. Like i said, specs are meaningless. It all comes down to the games and how they look and play overall. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

GoW was playing above 30 FPS...

It seems the XBO can't handle non-fighting/racing games well.

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Yes, it's too bad that the PS4 has already shown it can run open-world, CGI-like games without it being sub-30 FPS.

Can't say the same for the linear, crap graphics RYSE.

GoW was linear too, so i guess that was crap as well. Please shut up. Every developer and gamer at the E3 said Ryse looked fantastic. Damage control won't change that. PS4 has show it has games that lose FPS and had pop-in and lag. It can't even run any games at 60fps yet without having issues. Like i said, specs are meaningless. It all comes down to the games and how they look and play overall. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

GoW was playing above 30 FPS...

It seems the XBO can't handle non-fighting/racing games well.

Halo 5 will be 1080p @ 60FPS. lol!! keep trying though. What PS4 games are running at 1080p @60fps without issues? None.
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Yes, it's too bad that the PS4 has already shown it can run open-world, CGI-like games without it being sub-30 FPS.

Can't say the same for the linear, crap graphics RYSE.

Sonysexual1

That's wierd considering how many of its non CGI looking games are running sub 30fps.

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] GoW was linear too, so i guess that was crap as well. Please shut up. Every developer and gamer at the E3 said Ryse looked fantastic. Damage control won't change that. PS4 has show it has games that lose FPS and had pop-in and lag. It can't even run any games at 60fps yet without having issues. Like i said, specs are meaningless. It all comes down to the games and how they look and play overall. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4blackace

GoW was playing above 30 FPS...

It seems the XBO can't handle non-fighting/racing games well.

Halo 5 will be 1080p @ 60FPS. lol!! keep trying though. What PS4 games are running at 1080p @60fps without issues? None.

If titanfall is anything to go by, I expect lots of low-res textures, no post-processing effects and clunky gameplay...

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The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked
It is argued by numerous sources that 33% in power can make a significant different (not night and day, but noticeable).

In addition to that, thus far the XBone has a more complicated architecture, combining ESRam with DDR3 as opposed to PS4 using only GDDR5. Perhaps the devs will master it, but its an unneccessary obsticle.

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Nice comprehension. He specifically had a neutral ground on the topic. He never confirmed anything. He said "on paper". You know, like on paper with the PS1/PS2 and Ps3 which failed to deliver. Weaboo.
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[QUOTE="stereointegrity"][QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked
1.2 is very much so less then 1.84

* 1.23

-10% GPU power reserved for the OS so roughly 1.1 teraflops of GPU power Superclocked
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked

Yes, in total TF performance, but we also know that 10% of the GPU's power is being reserved for the OS. For gaming, specifically, it's around 40% less.

And how do we know that the same isn't true for the PS4?

Sony has a ARM SoC to handle the background and OS
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

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XboxStache

Nice comprehension. He specifically had a neutral ground on the topic. He never confirmed anything. He said "on paper". You know, like on paper with the PS1/PS2 and Ps3 which failed to deliver. Weaboo.

On paper, the GTX 680 can run demanding games better than the GTX 660.

Do you really need benchmarks to show this?

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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

GoW was playing above 30 FPS...

It seems the XBO can't handle non-fighting/racing games well.

Sonysexual1

Halo 5 will be 1080p @ 60FPS. lol!! keep trying though. What PS4 games are running at 1080p @60fps without issues? None.

If titanfall is anything to go by, I expect lots of low-res textures, no post-processing effects and clunky gameplay...

Damn, first yoy get butthurt over TLOU flop, and now Titanfall

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When will it stop :cool:

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[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Yes, in total TF performance, but we also know that 10% of the GPU's power is being reserved for the OS. For gaming, specifically, it's around 40% less.

Sonysexual1

And how do we know that the same isn't true for the PS4?

Because the PS4 has dedicated chips for handling background tasks. The PS4 is more optimized than the disaster that is XBO.

And if it were true, don't you think we would have heard it from neogaf by now?

Which means fvck all for the GPU and games.

also not lvl 10. You should be banned for constantly breaking rules

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The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked

I don't think cows understand diminishing returns.

They think the Xbox One being 33% less powerful means PS4 games are going to look 33% better.

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[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...Ly_the_Fairy

I don't think cows understand diminishing returns.

They think the Xbox One being 33% less powerful means PS4 games are going to look 33% better.

Better is better no matter how you spin it.

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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]It has a dedicated ARM processor to help take some of the OS load off of the CPU, but that has nothing to do with the GPU. The XBox One also has hardware that helps to take load away from the CPU...blackace

Are you still living in the early 2000s?

GPUs can now be used for general computing. It's highly likely that part of the ONE's GPU is being used to help the CPU, as the CPU inside the ONE is weaksauce.

It's all irrelevant when in the end all the games look and play the same. That's why specs are meaningless. It was confirmed a long time ago that the PS4 has slightly more powerful hardware then XBox One. It was also confirmed that M$ would be using the cloud, software tools, optimized drivers and DX11 to compensate for some of it's weaker hardware. In the end, the specs won't matter at all. Just like they didn't matter with the PS3 and XBox 360.

you do realize Sony's developement environment is months ahead of Microsofts? http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2013/05/ps4s_development_environment_is_much_more_mature_than_xbox_one you do realize Sony can use DX11 and has even BETTER shader support and more features then what DX11 can provide? Sony will remain ahead in dev environment for the rest of the generation due to the easier architecture to develop for Cloud processing isn't exclusive to Microsoft so no advantage there
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#42 Sonysexual1
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]And how do we know that the same isn't true for the PS4?seanmcloughlin

Because the PS4 has dedicated chips for handling background tasks. The PS4 is more optimized than the disaster that is XBO.

And if it were true, don't you think we would have heard it from neogaf by now?

Which means fvck all for the GPU and games.

also not lvl 10. You should be banned for constantly breaking rules

TEH RULEZ!!! WHY U NO FOLLOW TEH RULEZ!!! :cry:

Get a life. No one except a few of you basement dwelling no lifes care about the rules.

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#43 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...Ly_the_Fairy

I don't think cows understand diminishing returns.

They think the Xbox One being 33% less powerful means PS4 games are going to look 33% better.

Yep, this too.

They forget that games are made for the lowest common denominator. Exclusives should look pretty good though

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#44 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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TEH RULEZ!!! WHY U NO FOLLOW TEH RULEZ!!! :cry:

Get a life. No one except a few of you basement dwelling no lifes care about the rules.

Sonysexual1

My house doesn't even have a basement :|

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#45 stereointegrity
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

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http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

XboxStache
Nice comprehension. He specifically had a neutral ground on the topic. He never confirmed anything. He said "on paper". You know, like on paper with the PS1/PS2 and Ps3 which failed to deliver. Weaboo.

330 million consoles sold by sony is not delivering? wtf
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#46 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...seanmcloughlin

I don't think cows understand diminishing returns.

They think the Xbox One being 33% less powerful means PS4 games are going to look 33% better.

Yep, this too.

They forget that games are made for the lowest common denominator. Exclusives should look pretty good though

This... I bet the multiplats will again look nearly identical, PS4 having an advantage, but in most cases, a rather small one.

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#47 Benny_Blakk
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[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] Halo 5 will be 1080p @ 60FPS. lol!! keep trying though. What PS4 games are running at 1080p @60fps without issues? None.RR360DD

If titanfall is anything to go by, I expect lots of low-res textures, no post-processing effects and clunky gameplay...

Damn, first yoy get butthurt over TLOU flop, and now Titanfall

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When will it stop :cool:

I especially like the part that says "Best PC Game".

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#48 XboxStache
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[QUOTE="XboxStache"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

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http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

Sonysexual1

Nice comprehension. He specifically had a neutral ground on the topic. He never confirmed anything. He said "on paper". You know, like on paper with the PS1/PS2 and Ps3 which failed to deliver. Weaboo.

On paper, the GTX 680 can run demanding games better than the GTX 660.

Do you really need benchmarks to show this?

Do we really need to keep track of all the graphical BS Sony has pushed over the years that we now can confirm as myths? Remember the PS1 being the weakest of it's gen, the PS2 being the weakest of it's gen (but best console nonetheless), and the PS3 with the cell? And finally, stop comparing PC performance with console performance...it's not the same. Consoles are optimized to run gaming software with a limited OS.
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#49 TrooperManaic
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The XBox One GPU is only 33% less powerful than the PS4's GPU. It's not going to make a huge difference...superclocked
33% really, PC gamers justify an upgrade for good reason for 33% extra performance.

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#50 tdkmillsy
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The final specs are not even out yet, strong rumours of an up clock and even more RAM on the internet. On paper the PS4 currently has more graphical power than the Xbox One, credit the guy for stating the obvious and not trying to hide it behind PR bull. All the previous generations show its not that important and its not going to change this generation.