Whelp, there we have it. Microsoft's XBO dev confirms PS4 is stronger!!!

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] Who f*cking cares besides fanboys. If one wants the most powerful system, wouldn't they just get a gaming PC?clone01

I care because I want to spend my money on the most powerful console I can. I have a decent gaming PC, but these consoles will prove to be more powerful than the PC I currently have and will also last me much longer than a standard gaming PC. Not to mention the fact that I actually do enjoy playing on the couch over the Desk (no I dont have the ability to move my computer to the TV, don't bother suggesting that as I have many uses for it outside of gaming). Fact is, the Xbone is $100 more expensive and yet a weaker system. I don't find that to be remotely acceptable.

At launch? I expect the games to look near identical. Further into the generation? I expect multiplats to look significantly better. The hardware differences are vast enough to allow for massive differences between the 2 systems. Unlike this generation, the PS4 is also designed to be simple to program so there should be frustrations from developers who are forced to deal with unknown architecture. I defiantely care about getting the best looking and best performing games. This is in no way a fanboy exclusive desire.

killer instinct still looks absolutely sick

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Benny_Blakk"]It is argued by numerous sources that 33% in power can make a significant different (not night and day, but noticeable).

In addition to that, thus far the XBone has a more complicated architecture, combining ESRam with DDR3 as opposed to PS4 using only GDDR5. Perhaps the devs will master it, but its an unneccessary obsticle.

Benny_Blakk

[QUOTE="Benny_Blakk"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Yeah, I agree. But both companies couldn't use 8GB of GDDR5. Sony had planned on just using 4GB of GDDR5, but they went ahead and opted for 8GB, since Microsoft decided to use the move engines, eSRAM, and custom compression hardware along with DDR3 RAM...superclocked

i heard they got the news the day of the reveal.   if they had 4GB they would be dead i think.

That;s great and all, but Xbo1 fans only care about Kinect and the power of the Cloud. They don't care if their console of choice is weaker then the ps4shinko28

nah we just no there wont be a big of a difference and gaming can evolve more on the XBO platform than the Sony PS4.   You want the future you spend a 100 extra bucks or wait for a price cut, if you want a good gaming machine with inferior multiplayer, have fun.   It is too eaches own, and XBO is my own.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Not if the CPU clockspeeds of the PS4 turn out to be 2.0 GHz.

xboxiphoneps3

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

I care because I want to spend my money on the most powerful console I can. I have a decent gaming PC, but these consoles will prove to be more powerful than the PC I currently have and will also last me much longer than a standard gaming PC. Not to mention the fact that I actually do enjoy playing on the couch over the Desk (no I dont have the ability to move my computer to the TV, don't bother suggesting that as I have many uses for it outside of gaming). Fact is, the Xbone is $100 more expensive and yet a weaker system. I don't find that to be remotely acceptable.

argetlam00

Further into the generation? I expect multiplats to look significantly better.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Ain't gonna happen. No way, no how.

If anything, some multiplats might run slightly better on Xbox One because of DirectX. However PS4 will not see any advantage, just like the PS3 didn't see any advantage this gen.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One has a much better cooler than the PS4. If one is going to be clocked higher, it will not be the PS4...superclocked

Yes, Xbox One is much better built than PS4. No doubt about that.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] And do you want to bet about 99 percent of the games look identical when they release. Again. Who gives a sh*t besides fanboys. Baurus_1

Further into the generation? I expect multiplats to look significantly better.

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Ain't gonna happen. No way, no how.

If anything, some multiplats might run slightly better on Xbox One because of DirectX. However PS4 will not see any advantage, just like the PS3 didn't see any advantage this gen.

Thats right, keep comparing 2 incomparable situations.

[QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"][QUOTE="superclocked"]The XBox One has a much better cooler than the PS4. If one is going to be clocked higher, it will not be the PS4...superclocked

cooler is sick, that is impressive, they could definitely go 900 mhz or even a ghz and the life of the chip will still be a long time.    its a frozen cooler for sure.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="xboxiphoneps3"] how does the Xbox One have a better cooler? where are you pulling this from, Microsoft's history isnt the best with designing console and cooling AHEM AHEM.... Sony has always been the masters of design and coolationBaurus_1

Yes, Xbox One is much better built than PS4. No doubt about that.

xbox one have lots of vents on all over the box,so overheating is unlikely going to happen

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

I care because I want to spend my money on the most powerful console I can. I have a decent gaming PC, but these consoles will prove to be more powerful than the PC I currently have and will also last me much longer than a standard gaming PC. Not to mention the fact that I actually do enjoy playing on the couch over the Desk (no I dont have the ability to move my computer to the TV, don't bother suggesting that as I have many uses for it outside of gaming). Fact is, the Xbone is $100 more expensive and yet a weaker system. I don't find that to be remotely acceptable.

argetlam00

At launch? I expect the games to look near identical. Further into the generation? I expect multiplats to look significantly better. The hardware differences are vast enough to allow for massive differences between the 2 systems. Unlike this generation, the PS4 is also designed to be simple to program so there should be frustrations from developers who are forced to deal with unknown architecture. I defiantely care about getting the best looking and best performing games. This is in no way a fanboy exclusive desire.

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

superclocked

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Sony used laptop type coolers in the PS3, and the PS4 looks to be the same. The XBox One uses a very large, very nice cooler. And the 360 failures were due to the use of subpar solder. Remember that Microsoft replaced those consoles for free, while Sony charges to replace broken PS3's...nyzma23

Yes, Xbox One is much better built than PS4. No doubt about that.

xbox one have lots of vents on all over the box,so overheating is unlikely going to happen

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] And do you want to bet about 99 percent of the games look identical when they release. Again. Who gives a sh*t besides fanboys. clone01

At launch? I expect the games to look near identical. Further into the generation? I expect multiplats to look significantly better. The hardware differences are vast enough to allow for massive differences between the 2 systems. Unlike this generation, the PS4 is also designed to be simple to program so there should be frustrations from developers who are forced to deal with unknown architecture. I defiantely care about getting the best looking and best performing games. This is in no way a fanboy exclusive desire.

Is any of the consoles 40% more powerful than another this generation?

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="blackace"] Then he goes on to says that Xbox One games looks as good as games on High End PC. lol!! Game over!!Chutebox

[QUOTE="blackace"]

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

superclocked

LOL!! Totally backfired!! Basically the PS4 has more powerful specs (on paper) but in real-world applications the Xbox One delivers better graphics!!

When will the Cows ever learn?

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

At launch? I expect the games to look near identical. Further into the generation? I expect multiplats to look significantly better. The hardware differences are vast enough to allow for massive differences between the 2 systems. Unlike this generation, the PS4 is also designed to be simple to program so there should be frustrations from developers who are forced to deal with unknown architecture. I defiantely care about getting the best looking and best performing games. This is in no way a fanboy exclusive desire.

argetlam00

Is any of the consoles 40% more powerful than another this generation?

you might see differences, you might be sadly dissapointed in how much it really is implemented and put to good use.   Id weight the goods of that vs what XBO offers, XBO far better choice, and you get more with your money.  

[QUOTE="Baurus_1"]

[QUOTE="superclocked"]Sony used laptop type coolers in the PS3, and the PS4 looks to be the same. The XBox One uses a very large, very nice cooler. And the 360 failures were due to the use of subpar solder. Remember that Microsoft replaced those consoles for free, while Sony charges to replace broken PS3's...nyzma23

Yes, Xbox One is much better built than PS4. No doubt about that.

xbox one have lots of vents on all over the box,so overheating is unlikely going to happen

could they easily overclock to 900 mhz?   100 uptick and have nothing to worry about with that sickness cooling and cooler they have going on there.

[QUOTE="superclocked"][QUOTE="blackace"] Then he goes on to says that Xbox One games looks as good as games on High End PC. lol!! Game over!!

Baurus_1

LOL!! Totally backfired!! Basically the PS4 has more powerful specs (on paper) but in real-world applications the Xbox One delivers better graphics!!

When will the Cows ever learn?

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] Considering this far into the current gen and multiplats look identical, no.XBOunity

Is any of the consoles 40% more powerful than another this generation?

you might see differences, you might be sadly dissapointed in how much it really is implemented and put to good use.   Id weight the goods of that vs what XBO offers, XBO far better choice, and you get more with your money.  

Well we already know Sony has better first party. Unless Microsoft moneyhats out the ass the PS4 will have more and better exclusives. Those exclusives will look much than X1 games as well. That is good enough for me.

[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1i71s5/i_am_an_xbox_one_dev_ask_me_almost_anything/

Sonysexual1

Yes, it's too bad that the PS4 has already shown it can run open-world, CGI-like games without it being sub-30 FPS.

Can't say the same for the linear, crap graphics RYSE.

[QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

[QUOTE="blackace"] Then he going on to says that Xbox One games looks as good as games on High End PC. lol!! Game over!!FoxbatAlpha

Yes, it's too bad that the PS4 has already shown it can run open-world, CGI-like games without it being sub-30 FPS.

Can't say the same for the linear, crap graphics RYSE.

[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="Sonysexual1"]

Yes, it's too bad that the PS4 has already shown it can run open-world, CGI-like games without it being sub-30 FPS.

Can't say the same for the linear, crap graphics RYSE.

Sonysexual1

Reported :cool:

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Is any of the consoles 40% more powerful than another this generation?

StrongBlackVine

you might see differences, you might be sadly dissapointed in how much it really is implemented and put to good use.   Id weight the goods of that vs what XBO offers, XBO far better choice, and you get more with your money.  

Well we already know Sony has better first party. Unless Microsoft moneyhats out the ass the PS4 will have more and better exclusives. Those exclusives will look much than X1 games as well. That is good enough for me.

subjective opinion is subjective opinion.   I think XBO will offer better games overall.  exclusives included.

Welp, there we have it. The Level 10 rule is still very much in effect. Moderator confirms this ;)