So, considering Forza 4 is multiplat, I got it for my PC. When was the last time the Xbone got an exclusive AAA that scored above 9/10? Three years ago?
Im going to say never since MS has play anywhere and also possibly whats to come with the MS streaming service.
Exclusive talk is just silly, as we're seeing companies looking at ways to get games into the hands of gamers outside each companies base console. Sony has PS Now which you dont need a console to play games. Its only a matter of time before Sony starts releasing playstation/pc play anywhere type games. The money is in the software, could only imagine the numbers God of War and Spiderman would pull if they were Sony Play Anywhere Games.
Think what MS is doing with play anywhere, Sony and Nintendo will look at ways to get its games into more hands, just seeing the success of what MS is doing with giving people options outside of xbox.
Im going to say never since MS has play anywhere and also possibly whats to come with the MS streaming service.
Exclusive talk is just silly, as we're seeing companies looking at ways to get games into the hands of gamers outside each companies base console. Sony has PS Now which you dont need a console to play games. Its only a matter of time before Sony starts releasing playstation/pc play anywhere type games. The money is in the software, could only imagine the numbers God of War and Spiderman would pull if they were Sony Play Anywhere Games.
Think what MS is doing with play anywhere, Sony and Nintendo will look at ways to get its games into more hands, just seeing the success of what MS is doing with giving people options outside of xbox.
This. Sony fans would rather have less options to play games. Weird. I would love to have Ps4 games on PC but that will never happen.....oh wait you can.
It amazes me that Cows cannot imagine a future where everything is steamed into whatever device you have.
Cry all you want it is inevitable.
Im going to say never since MS has play anywhere and also possibly whats to come with the MS streaming service.
Exclusive talk is just silly, as we're seeing companies looking at ways to get games into the hands of gamers outside each companies base console. Sony has PS Now which you dont need a console to play games. Its only a matter of time before Sony starts releasing playstation/pc play anywhere type games. The money is in the software, could only imagine the numbers God of War and Spiderman would pull if they were Sony Play Anywhere Games.
Think what MS is doing with play anywhere, Sony and Nintendo will look at ways to get its games into more hands, just seeing the success of what MS is doing with giving people options outside of xbox.
Exclusives are the reason Sony is at 83 million ps4's and M$ 32 million Xbox one's. That's a massive a ss whooping this gen. Its silly for lemmings that don't have exclusives.
When GameSpot stops hiring bay area millennial turd nuggets and puts an IP ban on NeoGAF on their office networks.
Im going to say never since MS has play anywhere and also possibly whats to come with the MS streaming service.
Exclusive talk is just silly, as we're seeing companies looking at ways to get games into the hands of gamers outside each companies base console. Sony has PS Now which you dont need a console to play games. Its only a matter of time before Sony starts releasing playstation/pc play anywhere type games. The money is in the software, could only imagine the numbers God of War and Spiderman would pull if they were Sony Play Anywhere Games.
Think what MS is doing with play anywhere, Sony and Nintendo will look at ways to get its games into more hands, just seeing the success of what MS is doing with giving people options outside of xbox.
What success? Sony is still obliterating both on sales of hardware and software. I don't discard Sony putting their games on other systems but calling the ones that sell less a success is lol-worthy.
Im going to say never since MS has play anywhere and also possibly whats to come with the MS streaming service.
Exclusive talk is just silly, as we're seeing companies looking at ways to get games into the hands of gamers outside each companies base console. Sony has PS Now which you dont need a console to play games. Its only a matter of time before Sony starts releasing playstation/pc play anywhere type games. The money is in the software, could only imagine the numbers God of War and Spiderman would pull if they were Sony Play Anywhere Games.
Think what MS is doing with play anywhere, Sony and Nintendo will look at ways to get its games into more hands, just seeing the success of what MS is doing with giving people options outside of xbox.
Exclusives are the reason Sony is at 83 million ps4's and M$ 32 million Xbox one's. That's a massive a ss whooping this gen. Its silly for lemmings that don't have exclusives.
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
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You can always stream from a system on the next house, it doesn't have to be in your house. The fact is that any restriction you put to your concept of exclusivity can be tackled technologically. It doesn't matter how difficult or straightforward it is, the fact that it is possible makes the term exclusive obsolete according to your definition.
You can easily install an old firmware on a PS3, the problem is that you wouldn't be able to play online and that's what people complained because for PSN you would need all people to have the same firmware. But anyways you wouldn't need PSN if you're just streaming games through linux. The technicals details are not important, the fact that it can be done is important here.
I game mainly on PC but I'm pretty sure there are a bunch of games which servers have been shut down on PC.
So, you are buying the base system, to stream from it? Good because no such requirement exists for PS Now. And all the best for your efforts to let your neighbor buy a PC along it entire PC library just so you can them stream from it just so you can fight for the honor f your overlord Sony on SW, LMAO. The height of desperation and fetish with a plastic box.
So, you can stream to PS3 without being online or connected to the network...ummmm...what? The technical details are very important here because it outlines the desperation but in any case if that do happen and some service let's say Geforce Now allows all games on PC to stream to PS3, happily take it off the list of PC exclusives (which is the inevitable future all games will be streamed to all kind of devices that support it). Nevertheless no PC gamer will lose their sleep over it.
So which games were shut down in less than a year like on Sony's systems and did Sony provide any refunds? Other companies offer refunds in a similar cases like Epic withParagon and Xaviant with Culling 2 just from the top of my head.
I don't have to buy it, I can borrow or rent it. Basically with PSNow you're renting a PS4 to stream the game to your PC. My neighbor could already own a PC. Still, like I said, the technical details are not important, the important thing is that you can do it one way or another. PSNow is not available in most countries so are the games exclusive there and not elsewhere?
Connecting to the internet through linux on PS3 doesn't require PSN. The firmware restriction was to use PSN. If you claim it doesn't matter that PC loses its exclusives why are you fighting for it then? I already conceited that, according to your definition, there's no exclusives on PS4 or anywhere else. I just don't accept that particular definition.
"So which games were shut down in less than a year like on Sony's systems and did Sony provide any refunds?"
Lawbreakers out of the top of my head
So does your neighbor makes it universally available for everyone or most people in the world along with the entire library? I'm aware PS Now is not available worldwide currently but it's not a stretch to think it won't be in the future. I'm not fighting over PC exclusives I was highlighting the desperation behind equating a service provided by the entity that owns the rights legally to the games and platform to an individual but not your self that still had to buy the base platform. That is quite a reach just to defend the plastic box you're in love with. The technical details will always matter.
So, has Sony gone bankrupt or closed down like Boss Key Productions hell did even SIE got shut down? Yup, quite a reach. Again why would I care about 'owning' or 'renting' a Sony game when the SOny's past is extremely shaddy and there's no guarantee for anything. PS Now is a steal deal for 'one and done' Sony games.
The technical details shouldn't matter because these exclusives game is a numbers game and suddenly you would have to consider exclusives in a individual basis because a person can stream a game from its neighbor and the other doesn't then suddenly the games are exclusive for one and not for the other. It's moronic. It's better to just stick to the traditional definition of exclusive which ignored technical tricks like emulation to play a game elsewhere. Streaming is still playing the game on the original hardware but remotely.
Actually the technical details always matter, you could claim that you have created a super-uber computer that can run Linux, Mac, Windows, all consoles, mobiles, VR, Super Computer's softwares etc etc. wouldn't hold any weight unless you can demonstrate it and also show it it can be replicated or available universally or at least a significant amount of users. Just like I can claim my PC is powerful than PS4 and hence it can run all PS software because I found a way to translate PS4's OS instructions to my PC. It wouldn't matter in the slightest if I can't show it or make it available to the public.
That's what your claims about 'you being able to stream from your neighbor' is equivalent to which is laughable in it self because your neighbor couldn't possibly ever have the entire PC library, nor would he ever be able to get a license to resale/stream to you. There's no legal binding between you two and the most important of them all, it wouldn't make the case true for me or anyone else.
It's a height of desperation to compare the personal stream capabilities to a corporate provided official services.
Im going to say never since MS has play anywhere and also possibly whats to come with the MS streaming service.
Exclusive talk is just silly, as we're seeing companies looking at ways to get games into the hands of gamers outside each companies base console. Sony has PS Now which you dont need a console to play games. Its only a matter of time before Sony starts releasing playstation/pc play anywhere type games. The money is in the software, could only imagine the numbers God of War and Spiderman would pull if they were Sony Play Anywhere Games.
Think what MS is doing with play anywhere, Sony and Nintendo will look at ways to get its games into more hands, just seeing the success of what MS is doing with giving people options outside of xbox.
Exclusives are the reason Sony is at 83 million ps4's and M$ 32 million Xbox one's. That's a massive a ss whooping this gen. Its silly for lemmings that don't have exclusives.
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
Last NPDs were won by Sony thanks to GOW. Exclusives is what sells consoles. If there are 5 million people that want to play GOW and 5 million that want to play Spiderman they have to buy the PS4. That's 10 million sales there. The most variety of exclusives a system has the more these sales accumulate.
When GameSpot stops hiring bay area millennial turd nuggets and puts an IP ban on NeoGAF on their office networks.
+1000 internet points for you. Spend'em wisely. :P
Im going to say never since MS has play anywhere and also possibly whats to come with the MS streaming service.
Exclusive talk is just silly, as we're seeing companies looking at ways to get games into the hands of gamers outside each companies base console. Sony has PS Now which you dont need a console to play games. Its only a matter of time before Sony starts releasing playstation/pc play anywhere type games. The money is in the software, could only imagine the numbers God of War and Spiderman would pull if they were Sony Play Anywhere Games.
Think what MS is doing with play anywhere, Sony and Nintendo will look at ways to get its games into more hands, just seeing the success of what MS is doing with giving people options outside of xbox.
Exclusives are the reason Sony is at 83 million ps4's and M$ 32 million Xbox one's. That's a massive a ss whooping this gen. Its silly for lemmings that don't have exclusives.
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
Last NPDs were won by Sony thanks to GOW. Exclusives is what sells consoles. If there are 5 million people that want to play GOW and 5 million that want to play Spiderman they have to buy the PS4. That's 10 million sales there. The most variety of exclusives a system has the more these sales accumulate.
So, you're telling us that the PS4 sold 5 extra millions consoles because of the 5 millions sale of GoW?
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So, you are buying the base system, to stream from it? Good because no such requirement exists for PS Now. And all the best for your efforts to let your neighbor buy a PC along it entire PC library just so you can them stream from it just so you can fight for the honor f your overlord Sony on SW, LMAO. The height of desperation and fetish with a plastic box.
So, you can stream to PS3 without being online or connected to the network...ummmm...what? The technical details are very important here because it outlines the desperation but in any case if that do happen and some service let's say Geforce Now allows all games on PC to stream to PS3, happily take it off the list of PC exclusives (which is the inevitable future all games will be streamed to all kind of devices that support it). Nevertheless no PC gamer will lose their sleep over it.
So which games were shut down in less than a year like on Sony's systems and did Sony provide any refunds? Other companies offer refunds in a similar cases like Epic withParagon and Xaviant with Culling 2 just from the top of my head.
I don't have to buy it, I can borrow or rent it. Basically with PSNow you're renting a PS4 to stream the game to your PC. My neighbor could already own a PC. Still, like I said, the technical details are not important, the important thing is that you can do it one way or another. PSNow is not available in most countries so are the games exclusive there and not elsewhere?
Connecting to the internet through linux on PS3 doesn't require PSN. The firmware restriction was to use PSN. If you claim it doesn't matter that PC loses its exclusives why are you fighting for it then? I already conceited that, according to your definition, there's no exclusives on PS4 or anywhere else. I just don't accept that particular definition.
"So which games were shut down in less than a year like on Sony's systems and did Sony provide any refunds?"
Lawbreakers out of the top of my head
So does your neighbor makes it universally available for everyone or most people in the world along with the entire library? I'm aware PS Now is not available worldwide currently but it's not a stretch to think it won't be in the future. I'm not fighting over PC exclusives I was highlighting the desperation behind equating a service provided by the entity that owns the rights legally to the games and platform to an individual but not your self that still had to buy the base platform. That is quite a reach just to defend the plastic box you're in love with. The technical details will always matter.
So, has Sony gone bankrupt or closed down like Boss Key Productions hell did even SIE got shut down? Yup, quite a reach. Again why would I care about 'owning' or 'renting' a Sony game when the SOny's past is extremely shaddy and there's no guarantee for anything. PS Now is a steal deal for 'one and done' Sony games.
The technical details shouldn't matter because these exclusives game is a numbers game and suddenly you would have to consider exclusives in a individual basis because a person can stream a game from its neighbor and the other doesn't then suddenly the games are exclusive for one and not for the other. It's moronic. It's better to just stick to the traditional definition of exclusive which ignored technical tricks like emulation to play a game elsewhere. Streaming is still playing the game on the original hardware but remotely.
Actually the technical details always matter, you could claim that you have created a super-uber computer that can run Linux, Mac, Windows, all consoles, mobiles, VR, Super Computer's softwares etc etc. wouldn't hold any weight unless you can demonstrate it and also show it it can be replicated or available universally or at least a significant amount of users. Just like I can claim my PC is powerful than PS4 and hence it can run all PS software because I found a way to translate PS4's OS instructions to my PC. It wouldn't matter in the slightest if I can't show it or make it available to the public.
That's what your claims about 'you being able to stream from your neighbor' is equivalent to which is laughable in it self because your neighbor couldn't possibly ever have the entire PC library, nor would he ever be able to get a license to resale/stream to you. There's no legal binding between you two and the most important of them all, it wouldn't make the case true for me or anyone else.
It's a height of desperation to compare the personal stream capabilities to a corporate provided official services.
Oh so now you're moving goalposts to legal bindings or "considerable amount of users"? whatever that means... Who cares how a person manages to play a game on another system? In the end the person playing it through PSNow or any other streaming means is playing it without a PS4 on their home. That you have to now add a legal requirement to somehow claim ownage and keep PC exclusives valid says a lot about how weak your subjective definition is. This is what happens when you make an arbitrary definition as to what an exclusive means and pretend there is some kind of universal rule behind it. Fine, consider them not exclusives, I'll keep consider them as exclusives because your definition is completely subjective and arbitrary and makes the concept of exclusive obsolete.
Im going to say never since MS has play anywhere and also possibly whats to come with the MS streaming service.
Exclusive talk is just silly, as we're seeing companies looking at ways to get games into the hands of gamers outside each companies base console. Sony has PS Now which you dont need a console to play games. Its only a matter of time before Sony starts releasing playstation/pc play anywhere type games. The money is in the software, could only imagine the numbers God of War and Spiderman would pull if they were Sony Play Anywhere Games.
Think what MS is doing with play anywhere, Sony and Nintendo will look at ways to get its games into more hands, just seeing the success of what MS is doing with giving people options outside of xbox.
Exclusives are the reason Sony is at 83 million ps4's and M$ 32 million Xbox one's. That's a massive a ss whooping this gen. Its silly for lemmings that don't have exclusives.
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
Last NPDs were won by Sony thanks to GOW. Exclusives is what sells consoles. If there are 5 million people that want to play GOW and 5 million that want to play Spiderman they have to buy the PS4. That's 10 million sales there. The most variety of exclusives a system has the more these sales accumulate.
So, you're telling us that the PS4 sold 5 extra millions consoles because of the 5 millions sale of GoW?
Who knows. Do you have any proof to the contrary? Fact is that everytime a big exclusive releases sales usually increase. It could also be that many gamers bought the PS4 before the exclusives released because they were anticipating them. In the end, there is a correlation between high scoring exclusives and sales on the PS4. Or remember the PS3 which in the second half of last gen started outselling the 360 yearly by a wide margin and it began with a constant stream of quality exclusives by Sony while MS focused on Kinect and forgot about its first party. You would have to go ask each and every person who bought a PS4 to get their motivation to buy it but you can't claim out of the blue that they don't influence sales. If they weren't Sony wouldn't be investing so much in first party titles and the Xbox wouldn't be in last place while lacking a strong first party.
Exclusives are the reason Sony is at 83 million ps4's and M$ 32 million Xbox one's. That's a massive a ss whooping this gen. Its silly for lemmings that don't have exclusives.
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
Last NPDs were won by Sony thanks to GOW. Exclusives is what sells consoles. If there are 5 million people that want to play GOW and 5 million that want to play Spiderman they have to buy the PS4. That's 10 million sales there. The most variety of exclusives a system has the more these sales accumulate.
So, you're telling us that the PS4 sold 5 extra millions consoles because of the 5 millions sale of GoW?
Who knows. Do you have any proof to the contrary? Fact is that everytime a big exclusive releases sales usually increase. It could also be that many gamers bought the PS4 before the exclusives released because they were anticipating them. In the end, there is a correlation between high scoring exclusives and sales on the PS4. Or remember the PS3 which in the second half of last gen started outselling the 360 yearly by a wide margin and it began with a constant stream of quality exclusives by Sony while MS focused on Kinect and forgot about its first party. You would have to go ask each and every person who bought a PS4 to get their motivation to buy it but you can't claim out of the blue that they don't influence sales. If they weren't Sony wouldn't be investing so much in first party titles and the Xbox wouldn't be in last place while lacking a strong first party.
You made the claim, you should have proof
Last NPDs were won by Sony thanks to GOW. Exclusives is what sells consoles. If there are 5 million people that want to play GOW and 5 million that want to play Spiderman they have to buy the PS4. That's 10 million sales there. The most variety of exclusives a system has the more these sales accumulate.
So, you're telling us that the PS4 sold 5 extra millions consoles because of the 5 millions sale of GoW?
Who knows. Do you have any proof to the contrary? Fact is that everytime a big exclusive releases sales usually increase. It could also be that many gamers bought the PS4 before the exclusives released because they were anticipating them. In the end, there is a correlation between high scoring exclusives and sales on the PS4. Or remember the PS3 which in the second half of last gen started outselling the 360 yearly by a wide margin and it began with a constant stream of quality exclusives by Sony while MS focused on Kinect and forgot about its first party. You would have to go ask each and every person who bought a PS4 to get their motivation to buy it but you can't claim out of the blue that they don't influence sales. If they weren't Sony wouldn't be investing so much in first party titles and the Xbox wouldn't be in last place while lacking a strong first party.
You made the claim, you should have proof
You made this claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
you need proof
@blackballs: Show me exactly where I am pretending that FH4 is an “exclusive”.
I think this an example of the world famous PS4 fans 'sense of humour'. K-Knight will be along soon with an assortment of hilarious memes.
@boycie: It must be as that’s the only explanation I can think of. Or perhaps it’s mad cow disease eating away at the brain. ?
Yeah I sure can’t wait for K-Knight and all his hilarious memes.
U lemmings ask and u lemmings will receive.
Sunset Overdrive was exclusive (and is not shared with PC).
Honestly though, Xbox exclusives are not a thing, because MS has gone the route of play anywhere, sharing most of their titles with PC. The term is now "Microsoft" exclusive if it's on their platforms only, and not on Sony or Nintendo platforms. They just don't fit into the single console exclusive category anymore.
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I don't have to buy it, I can borrow or rent it. Basically with PSNow you're renting a PS4 to stream the game to your PC. My neighbor could already own a PC. Still, like I said, the technical details are not important, the important thing is that you can do it one way or another. PSNow is not available in most countries so are the games exclusive there and not elsewhere?
Connecting to the internet through linux on PS3 doesn't require PSN. The firmware restriction was to use PSN. If you claim it doesn't matter that PC loses its exclusives why are you fighting for it then? I already conceited that, according to your definition, there's no exclusives on PS4 or anywhere else. I just don't accept that particular definition.
"So which games were shut down in less than a year like on Sony's systems and did Sony provide any refunds?"
Lawbreakers out of the top of my head
So does your neighbor makes it universally available for everyone or most people in the world along with the entire library? I'm aware PS Now is not available worldwide currently but it's not a stretch to think it won't be in the future. I'm not fighting over PC exclusives I was highlighting the desperation behind equating a service provided by the entity that owns the rights legally to the games and platform to an individual but not your self that still had to buy the base platform. That is quite a reach just to defend the plastic box you're in love with. The technical details will always matter.
So, has Sony gone bankrupt or closed down like Boss Key Productions hell did even SIE got shut down? Yup, quite a reach. Again why would I care about 'owning' or 'renting' a Sony game when the SOny's past is extremely shaddy and there's no guarantee for anything. PS Now is a steal deal for 'one and done' Sony games.
The technical details shouldn't matter because these exclusives game is a numbers game and suddenly you would have to consider exclusives in a individual basis because a person can stream a game from its neighbor and the other doesn't then suddenly the games are exclusive for one and not for the other. It's moronic. It's better to just stick to the traditional definition of exclusive which ignored technical tricks like emulation to play a game elsewhere. Streaming is still playing the game on the original hardware but remotely.
Actually the technical details always matter, you could claim that you have created a super-uber computer that can run Linux, Mac, Windows, all consoles, mobiles, VR, Super Computer's softwares etc etc. wouldn't hold any weight unless you can demonstrate it and also show it it can be replicated or available universally or at least a significant amount of users. Just like I can claim my PC is powerful than PS4 and hence it can run all PS software because I found a way to translate PS4's OS instructions to my PC. It wouldn't matter in the slightest if I can't show it or make it available to the public.
That's what your claims about 'you being able to stream from your neighbor' is equivalent to which is laughable in it self because your neighbor couldn't possibly ever have the entire PC library, nor would he ever be able to get a license to resale/stream to you. There's no legal binding between you two and the most important of them all, it wouldn't make the case true for me or anyone else.
It's a height of desperation to compare the personal stream capabilities to a corporate provided official services.
Oh so now you're moving goalposts to legal bindings or "considerable amount of users"? whatever that means... Who cares how a person manages to play a game on another system? In the end the person playing it through PSNow or any other streaming means is playing it without a PS4 on their home. That you have to now add a legal requirement to somehow claim ownage and keep PC exclusives valid says a lot about how weak your subjective definition is. This is what happens when you make an arbitrary definition as to what an exclusive means and pretend there is some kind of universal rule behind it. Fine, consider them not exclusives, I'll keep consider them as exclusives because your definition is completely subjective and arbitrary and makes the concept of exclusive obsolete.
Lmao, so funny seeing you projecting your insecurity on me. And no, I have outlined many reasons why your desperate argument about an individual streaming to you and that too a hypothetical scenario not a real one is flawed to begin with. No one moved the goal posts apart from cows that they even have to equate 2 completely different things, hence your repeated attempts at 'technicalities doesn't matter' goal post move.
No matter what mental gymnastics you do, the mentioned games are no longer exclusives and I don't need a PS4 to play those games. And gladly take off the games from PC exclusives list when the reverse ever happens, so far it didn't. Even then, no matter how you slice it PC will still come out on top and still objectively be a better platform. I understand the desperation because cows bread and butter are max 4-5 'one and done' games and hence their desire to held on to it via any means necessary.
Again, don't need a PS4. :D Ciao!
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The technical details shouldn't matter because these exclusives game is a numbers game and suddenly you would have to consider exclusives in a individual basis because a person can stream a game from its neighbor and the other doesn't then suddenly the games are exclusive for one and not for the other. It's moronic. It's better to just stick to the traditional definition of exclusive which ignored technical tricks like emulation to play a game elsewhere. Streaming is still playing the game on the original hardware but remotely.
Actually the technical details always matter, you could claim that you have created a super-uber computer that can run Linux, Mac, Windows, all consoles, mobiles, VR, Super Computer's softwares etc etc. wouldn't hold any weight unless you can demonstrate it and also show it it can be replicated or available universally or at least a significant amount of users. Just like I can claim my PC is powerful than PS4 and hence it can run all PS software because I found a way to translate PS4's OS instructions to my PC. It wouldn't matter in the slightest if I can't show it or make it available to the public.
That's what your claims about 'you being able to stream from your neighbor' is equivalent to which is laughable in it self because your neighbor couldn't possibly ever have the entire PC library, nor would he ever be able to get a license to resale/stream to you. There's no legal binding between you two and the most important of them all, it wouldn't make the case true for me or anyone else.
It's a height of desperation to compare the personal stream capabilities to a corporate provided official services.
Oh so now you're moving goalposts to legal bindings or "considerable amount of users"? whatever that means... Who cares how a person manages to play a game on another system? In the end the person playing it through PSNow or any other streaming means is playing it without a PS4 on their home. That you have to now add a legal requirement to somehow claim ownage and keep PC exclusives valid says a lot about how weak your subjective definition is. This is what happens when you make an arbitrary definition as to what an exclusive means and pretend there is some kind of universal rule behind it. Fine, consider them not exclusives, I'll keep consider them as exclusives because your definition is completely subjective and arbitrary and makes the concept of exclusive obsolete.
Lmao, so funny seeing you projecting your insecurity on me. And no, I have outlined many reasons why your desperate argument about an individual streaming to you and that too a hypothetical scenario not a real one is flawed to begin with. No one moved the goal posts apart from cows that they even have to equate 2 completely different things, hence your repeated attempts at 'technicalities doesn't matter' goal post move.
No matter what mental gymnastics you do, the mentioned games are no longer exclusives and I don't need a PS4 to play those games. And gladly take off the games from PC exclusives list when the reverse ever happens, so far it didn't. Even then, no matter how you slice it PC will still come out on top and still objectively be a better platform. I understand the desperation because cows bread and butter are max 4-5 'one and done' games and hence their desire to held on to it via any means necessary.
Again, don't need a PS4. :D Ciao!
Have fun using your overpriced plastic toy to have a subpar, 720p/sub30fps experience with input lag. ;)
ct
So does your neighbor makes it universally available for everyone or most people in the world along with the entire library? I'm aware PS Now is not available worldwide currently but it's not a stretch to think it won't be in the future. I'm not fighting over PC exclusives I was highlighting the desperation behind equating a service provided by the entity that owns the rights legally to the games and platform to an individual but not your self that still had to buy the base platform. That is quite a reach just to defend the plastic box you're in love with. The technical details will always matter.
So, has Sony gone bankrupt or closed down like Boss Key Productions hell did even SIE got shut down? Yup, quite a reach. Again why would I care about 'owning' or 'renting' a Sony game when the SOny's past is extremely shaddy and there's no guarantee for anything. PS Now is a steal deal for 'one and done' Sony games.
The technical details shouldn't matter because these exclusives game is a numbers game and suddenly you would have to consider exclusives in a individual basis because a person can stream a game from its neighbor and the other doesn't then suddenly the games are exclusive for one and not for the other. It's moronic. It's better to just stick to the traditional definition of exclusive which ignored technical tricks like emulation to play a game elsewhere. Streaming is still playing the game on the original hardware but remotely.
Actually the technical details always matter, you could claim that you have created a super-uber computer that can run Linux, Mac, Windows, all consoles, mobiles, VR, Super Computer's softwares etc etc. wouldn't hold any weight unless you can demonstrate it and also show it it can be replicated or available universally or at least a significant amount of users. Just like I can claim my PC is powerful than PS4 and hence it can run all PS software because I found a way to translate PS4's OS instructions to my PC. It wouldn't matter in the slightest if I can't show it or make it available to the public.
That's what your claims about 'you being able to stream from your neighbor' is equivalent to which is laughable in it self because your neighbor couldn't possibly ever have the entire PC library, nor would he ever be able to get a license to resale/stream to you. There's no legal binding between you two and the most important of them all, it wouldn't make the case true for me or anyone else.
It's a height of desperation to compare the personal stream capabilities to a corporate provided official services.
Oh so now you're moving goalposts to legal bindings or "considerable amount of users"? whatever that means... Who cares how a person manages to play a game on another system? In the end the person playing it through PSNow or any other streaming means is playing it without a PS4 on their home. That you have to now add a legal requirement to somehow claim ownage and keep PC exclusives valid says a lot about how weak your subjective definition is. This is what happens when you make an arbitrary definition as to what an exclusive means and pretend there is some kind of universal rule behind it. Fine, consider them not exclusives, I'll keep consider them as exclusives because your definition is completely subjective and arbitrary and makes the concept of exclusive obsolete.
Lmao, so funny seeing you projecting your insecurity on me. And no, I have outlined many reasons why your desperate argument about an individual streaming to you and that too a hypothetical scenario not a real one is flawed to begin with. No one moved the goal posts apart from cows that they even have to equate 2 completely different things, hence your repeated attempts at 'technicalities doesn't matter' goal post move.
No matter what mental gymnastics you do, the mentioned games are no longer exclusives and I don't need a PS4 to play those games. And gladly take off the games from PC exclusives list when the reverse ever happens, so far it didn't. Even then, no matter how you slice it PC will still come out on top and still objectively be a better platform. I understand the desperation because cows bread and butter are max 4-5 'one and done' games and hence their desire to held on to it via any means necessary.
Again, don't need a PS4. :D Ciao!
But it has been done. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Here: https://www.engadget.com/2008/01/20/play-pc-games-on-your-ps3-with-streammygame/, now PC has no exclusives anymore lol.
@zappat: Yes understood that Sony is selling well. But opening up releasing software on more platforms like PS4/PC puts less pressure on Sony having to spend on hardware. Sony could just focus on a nice base model console and with Ps4/PC play anywhere, gamers can get higher end quality if they so choose to with PC. Then with PS Now being like gamepass, Sony will be generating even more money and not have to worry about hardware/console. MS doesnt have nearly the quality of studios as Sony does currently. Looking at the success with MS and Gamepass/play anywhere, its hard not to think that if Sony establishes the same you would see even bigger numbers than on ps4 console alone.
It looks as if Sony is doing this now with rumored upgrades to PSN/PSnow and building up its services. I doubt they'll go with Play Anywhere with PC/Playstation 1p releases but might be something to look at.
People cheering for exclusives are straight up idiots.
No but people who choose to buy systems that don't offer high quality exclusives and get butthurt because those exclusives don't come out on their chosen platform are "straight up idiots".
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The technical details shouldn't matter because these exclusives game is a numbers game and suddenly you would have to consider exclusives in a individual basis because a person can stream a game from its neighbor and the other doesn't then suddenly the games are exclusive for one and not for the other. It's moronic. It's better to just stick to the traditional definition of exclusive which ignored technical tricks like emulation to play a game elsewhere. Streaming is still playing the game on the original hardware but remotely.
Actually the technical details always matter, you could claim that you have created a super-uber computer that can run Linux, Mac, Windows, all consoles, mobiles, VR, Super Computer's softwares etc etc. wouldn't hold any weight unless you can demonstrate it and also show it it can be replicated or available universally or at least a significant amount of users. Just like I can claim my PC is powerful than PS4 and hence it can run all PS software because I found a way to translate PS4's OS instructions to my PC. It wouldn't matter in the slightest if I can't show it or make it available to the public.
That's what your claims about 'you being able to stream from your neighbor' is equivalent to which is laughable in it self because your neighbor couldn't possibly ever have the entire PC library, nor would he ever be able to get a license to resale/stream to you. There's no legal binding between you two and the most important of them all, it wouldn't make the case true for me or anyone else.
It's a height of desperation to compare the personal stream capabilities to a corporate provided official services.
Oh so now you're moving goalposts to legal bindings or "considerable amount of users"? whatever that means... Who cares how a person manages to play a game on another system? In the end the person playing it through PSNow or any other streaming means is playing it without a PS4 on their home. That you have to now add a legal requirement to somehow claim ownage and keep PC exclusives valid says a lot about how weak your subjective definition is. This is what happens when you make an arbitrary definition as to what an exclusive means and pretend there is some kind of universal rule behind it. Fine, consider them not exclusives, I'll keep consider them as exclusives because your definition is completely subjective and arbitrary and makes the concept of exclusive obsolete.
Lmao, so funny seeing you projecting your insecurity on me. And no, I have outlined many reasons why your desperate argument about an individual streaming to you and that too a hypothetical scenario not a real one is flawed to begin with. No one moved the goal posts apart from cows that they even have to equate 2 completely different things, hence your repeated attempts at 'technicalities doesn't matter' goal post move.
No matter what mental gymnastics you do, the mentioned games are no longer exclusives and I don't need a PS4 to play those games. And gladly take off the games from PC exclusives list when the reverse ever happens, so far it didn't. Even then, no matter how you slice it PC will still come out on top and still objectively be a better platform. I understand the desperation because cows bread and butter are max 4-5 'one and done' games and hence their desire to held on to it via any means necessary.
Again, don't need a PS4. :D Ciao!
But it has been done. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Here: https://www.engadget.com/2008/01/20/play-pc-games-on-your-ps3-with-streammygame/, now PC has no exclusives anymore lol.
Yeah, Linux enabled PS3 which doesn't exist after the update connected via LAN to 'PC', LMAO. Again goes back to that desperate attempt of putting individual against a corporate provided service where you do need to pay for the base system. Go ahead and play 'all PC games' by first buying the 'PC' and the entire game library and then to stream it for the sake of SW because it kiils you inside that PS4 is/and already has lost whatever little precious 4-5 'one and done' games it had. :D
Since you're getting so desperate, let me give a better alternative instead of PS3 use the android phone and stream Steam games via Steam Link, oh wait....you're after ownage over me regarding PC losing its games to Sony platform....Bwaaaahaaaaaaa, the desperation.
All the while I let me just play Bloodborne on my PC without having to build up any hypothetical and non-practical scenario for $20.....oh wait, what is it, I don't even have to pay $20? There's a free 7 day trial. :D
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Actually the technical details always matter, you could claim that you have created a super-uber computer that can run Linux, Mac, Windows, all consoles, mobiles, VR, Super Computer's softwares etc etc. wouldn't hold any weight unless you can demonstrate it and also show it it can be replicated or available universally or at least a significant amount of users. Just like I can claim my PC is powerful than PS4 and hence it can run all PS software because I found a way to translate PS4's OS instructions to my PC. It wouldn't matter in the slightest if I can't show it or make it available to the public.
That's what your claims about 'you being able to stream from your neighbor' is equivalent to which is laughable in it self because your neighbor couldn't possibly ever have the entire PC library, nor would he ever be able to get a license to resale/stream to you. There's no legal binding between you two and the most important of them all, it wouldn't make the case true for me or anyone else.
It's a height of desperation to compare the personal stream capabilities to a corporate provided official services.
Oh so now you're moving goalposts to legal bindings or "considerable amount of users"? whatever that means... Who cares how a person manages to play a game on another system? In the end the person playing it through PSNow or any other streaming means is playing it without a PS4 on their home. That you have to now add a legal requirement to somehow claim ownage and keep PC exclusives valid says a lot about how weak your subjective definition is. This is what happens when you make an arbitrary definition as to what an exclusive means and pretend there is some kind of universal rule behind it. Fine, consider them not exclusives, I'll keep consider them as exclusives because your definition is completely subjective and arbitrary and makes the concept of exclusive obsolete.
Lmao, so funny seeing you projecting your insecurity on me. And no, I have outlined many reasons why your desperate argument about an individual streaming to you and that too a hypothetical scenario not a real one is flawed to begin with. No one moved the goal posts apart from cows that they even have to equate 2 completely different things, hence your repeated attempts at 'technicalities doesn't matter' goal post move.
No matter what mental gymnastics you do, the mentioned games are no longer exclusives and I don't need a PS4 to play those games. And gladly take off the games from PC exclusives list when the reverse ever happens, so far it didn't. Even then, no matter how you slice it PC will still come out on top and still objectively be a better platform. I understand the desperation because cows bread and butter are max 4-5 'one and done' games and hence their desire to held on to it via any means necessary.
Again, don't need a PS4. :D Ciao!
But it has been done. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Here: https://www.engadget.com/2008/01/20/play-pc-games-on-your-ps3-with-streammygame/, now PC has no exclusives anymore lol.
Yeah, Linux enabled PS3 which doesn't exist after the update connected via LAN to 'PC', LMAO. Again goes back to that desperate attempt of putting individual against a corporate provided service where you do need to pay for the base system. Go ahead and play 'all PC games' by first buying the 'PC' and the entire game library and then to stream it for the sake of SW because it kiils you inside that PS4 is/and already has lost whatever little precious 4-5 'one and done' games it had. :D
Since you're getting so desperate, let me give a better alternative instead of PS3 use the android phone and stream Steam games via Steam Link, oh wait....you're after ownage over me regarding PC losing its games to Sony platform....Bwaaaahaaaaaaa, the desperation.
All the while I let me just play Bloodborne on my PC without having to build up any hypothetical and non-practical scenario for $20.....oh wait, what is it, I don't even have to pay $20? There's a free 7 day trial. :D
Well with steammygame or similar apps you don't have to pay anything and you can do it from anywhere in the world so that effectively makes PC exclusives even less exclusive than PS4 ones lol
Oh so now you're moving goalposts to legal bindings or "considerable amount of users"? whatever that means... Who cares how a person manages to play a game on another system? In the end the person playing it through PSNow or any other streaming means is playing it without a PS4 on their home. That you have to now add a legal requirement to somehow claim ownage and keep PC exclusives valid says a lot about how weak your subjective definition is. This is what happens when you make an arbitrary definition as to what an exclusive means and pretend there is some kind of universal rule behind it. Fine, consider them not exclusives, I'll keep consider them as exclusives because your definition is completely subjective and arbitrary and makes the concept of exclusive obsolete.
Lmao, so funny seeing you projecting your insecurity on me. And no, I have outlined many reasons why your desperate argument about an individual streaming to you and that too a hypothetical scenario not a real one is flawed to begin with. No one moved the goal posts apart from cows that they even have to equate 2 completely different things, hence your repeated attempts at 'technicalities doesn't matter' goal post move.
No matter what mental gymnastics you do, the mentioned games are no longer exclusives and I don't need a PS4 to play those games. And gladly take off the games from PC exclusives list when the reverse ever happens, so far it didn't. Even then, no matter how you slice it PC will still come out on top and still objectively be a better platform. I understand the desperation because cows bread and butter are max 4-5 'one and done' games and hence their desire to held on to it via any means necessary.
Again, don't need a PS4. :D Ciao!
But it has been done. Just because you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Here: https://www.engadget.com/2008/01/20/play-pc-games-on-your-ps3-with-streammygame/, now PC has no exclusives anymore lol.
Yeah, Linux enabled PS3 which doesn't exist after the update connected via LAN to 'PC', LMAO. Again goes back to that desperate attempt of putting individual against a corporate provided service where you do need to pay for the base system. Go ahead and play 'all PC games' by first buying the 'PC' and the entire game library and then to stream it for the sake of SW because it kiils you inside that PS4 is/and already has lost whatever little precious 4-5 'one and done' games it had. :D
Since you're getting so desperate, let me give a better alternative instead of PS3 use the android phone and stream Steam games via Steam Link, oh wait....you're after ownage over me regarding PC losing its games to Sony platform....Bwaaaahaaaaaaa, the desperation.
All the while I let me just play Bloodborne on my PC without having to build up any hypothetical and non-practical scenario for $20.....oh wait, what is it, I don't even have to pay $20? There's a free 7 day trial. :D
Well with steammygame or similar apps you don't have to pay anything and you can do it from anywhere in the world so that effectively makes PC exclusives even less exclusive than PS4 ones lol
lol PC_rocks owned.
PC has no exclusives confirmed.
You made this claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
you need proof
80 millions PS4
5 millions GoW (lastest numbers) : 6,25% attach rate
8,7 millions Uncharted 4 (feel free to post more recent numbers): 10,875% attach rate
7,6 millions HZD: 9,5% attach rate
1,8 million Knack (lol vg chartz): 2,25% attach rate
2,1 million KZ4 : 2,6525% attach rate
Those are pretty low numbers if you compare them to the Switch
You made this claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
you need proof
80 millions PS4
5 millions GoW (lastest numbers) : 6,25% attach rate
8,7 millions Uncharted 4 (feel free to post more recent numbers): 10,875% attach rate
7,6 millions HZD: 9,5% attach rate
1,8 million Knack (lol vg chartz): 2,25% attach rate
2,1 million KZ4 : 2,6525% attach rate
Those are pretty low numbers if you compare them to the Switch
This doesn't prove anything.
Can you find an article saying that exclusives don't drive PS4 sales? An article with proof and data? Can you prove Sony said something in this fashion? No? So everything else is speculation, hence, stalker, you owned yourself lmao
You made this claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
you need proof
80 millions PS4
5 millions GoW (lastest numbers) : 6,25% attach rate
8,7 millions Uncharted 4 (feel free to post more recent numbers): 10,875% attach rate
7,6 millions HZD: 9,5% attach rate
1,8 million Knack (lol vg chartz): 2,25% attach rate
2,1 million KZ4 : 2,6525% attach rate
Those are pretty low numbers if you compare them to the Switch
This doesn't proof anything.
Can you find an article saying that exclusives doesn't drive PS4 sales? An article with proof and data? Can you prove Sony said something in this fashion? No? So everything else is speculation, hence, stalker, you owned yourself lmao
Initial claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
I did prove that, please learn to read
You made this claim
you need proof
80 millions PS4
5 millions GoW (lastest numbers) : 6,25% attach rate
8,7 millions Uncharted 4 (feel free to post more recent numbers): 10,875% attach rate
7,6 millions HZD: 9,5% attach rate
1,8 million Knack (lol vg chartz): 2,25% attach rate
2,1 million KZ4 : 2,6525% attach rate
Those are pretty low numbers if you compare them to the Switch
This doesn't proof anything.
Can you find an article saying that exclusives doesn't drive PS4 sales? An article with proof and data? Can you prove Sony said something in this fashion? No? So everything else is speculation, hence, stalker, you owned yourself lmao
Initial claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
I did prove that, please learn to read
Exactly, your claim: "Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base"
Reality: 5+8.7+7.6+1.8+2.1=25.2.
25.2/80= 31.5%
And this is not adding Spider Man, Bloodborne, Infamous and other exclusives.
Exclusives represent at least 31% of sales, that's no small percentage considering most games are multiplats.
lmao, owned by your own data.
You made this claim
you need proof
80 millions PS4
5 millions GoW (lastest numbers) : 6,25% attach rate
8,7 millions Uncharted 4 (feel free to post more recent numbers): 10,875% attach rate
7,6 millions HZD: 9,5% attach rate
1,8 million Knack (lol vg chartz): 2,25% attach rate
2,1 million KZ4 : 2,6525% attach rate
Those are pretty low numbers if you compare them to the Switch
This doesn't proof anything.
Can you find an article saying that exclusives doesn't drive PS4 sales? An article with proof and data? Can you prove Sony said something in this fashion? No? So everything else is speculation, hence, stalker, you owned yourself lmao
Initial claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
I did prove that, please learn to read
Exactly, your claim: "Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base"
Reality: 5+8.7+7.6+1.8+2.1=25.2.
25.2/80= 31.5%
And this is not adding Spider Man, Bloodborne, Infamous and other exclusives.
Exclusives represent at least 31% of sales, that's no small percentage considering most games are multiplats.
lmao, owned by your own data.
I'm just going to stand here and laugh at you with what you just did and said
80 millions PS4
5 millions GoW (lastest numbers) : 6,25% attach rate
8,7 millions Uncharted 4 (feel free to post more recent numbers): 10,875% attach rate
7,6 millions HZD: 9,5% attach rate
1,8 million Knack (lol vg chartz): 2,25% attach rate
2,1 million KZ4 : 2,6525% attach rate
Those are pretty low numbers if you compare them to the Switch
This doesn't proof anything.
Can you find an article saying that exclusives doesn't drive PS4 sales? An article with proof and data? Can you prove Sony said something in this fashion? No? So everything else is speculation, hence, stalker, you owned yourself lmao
Initial claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
I did prove that, please learn to read
Exactly, your claim: "Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base"
Reality: 5+8.7+7.6+1.8+2.1=25.2.
25.2/80= 31.5%
And this is not adding Spider Man, Bloodborne, Infamous and other exclusives.
Exclusives represent at least 31% of sales, that's no small percentage considering most games are multiplats.
lmao, owned by your own data.
I'm just going to stand here and laugh at you with what you just did and said
Do that, it's the only thing you can do, since you can't present any counterpoint. You set the rules and you owned yourself.
This doesn't proof anything.
Can you find an article saying that exclusives doesn't drive PS4 sales? An article with proof and data? Can you prove Sony said something in this fashion? No? So everything else is speculation, hence, stalker, you owned yourself lmao
Initial claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
I did prove that, please learn to read
Exactly, your claim: "Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base"
Reality: 5+8.7+7.6+1.8+2.1=25.2.
25.2/80= 31.5%
And this is not adding Spider Man, Bloodborne, Infamous and other exclusives.
Exclusives represent at least 31% of sales, that's no small percentage considering most games are multiplats.
lmao, owned by your own data.
I'm just going to stand here and laugh at you with what you just did and said
Do that, it's the only thing you can do, since you can't present any counterpoint. You set the rules and you owned yourself.
Are you going to be mean to me now and insult me as you don't have any point to make? As you usually do when you run out of arguments
Exactly, your claim: "Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base"
Reality: 5+8.7+7.6+1.8+2.1=25.2.
25.2/80= 31.5%
And this is not adding Spider Man, Bloodborne, Infamous and other exclusives.
Exclusives represent at least 31% of sales, that's no small percentage considering most games are multiplats.
lmao, owned by your own data.
I'm just going to stand here and laugh at you with what you just did and said
Do that, it's the only thing you can do, since you can't present any counterpoint. You set the rules and you owned yourself.
Are you going to be mean to me now and insult me as you don't have any point to make? As you usually do when you run out of arguments
Nope, but you said exclusives represent a small percentage of sales and I just proved they represent at least 31% of sales.
Can you deny this?
Think next year is halo which will deliver and see what one of the new studios can do. Certainly a lot brighter than the last couple of years.
This doesn't proof anything.
Can you find an article saying that exclusives doesn't drive PS4 sales? An article with proof and data? Can you prove Sony said something in this fashion? No? So everything else is speculation, hence, stalker, you owned yourself lmao
Initial claim
Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base
I did prove that, please learn to read
Exactly, your claim: "Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base"
Reality: 5+8.7+7.6+1.8+2.1=25.2.
25.2/80= 31.5%
And this is not adding Spider Man, Bloodborne, Infamous and other exclusives.
Exclusives represent at least 31% of sales, that's no small percentage considering most games are multiplats.
lmao, owned by your own data.
I'm just going to stand here and laugh at you with what you just did and said
Why? he has a point. You didn't say a single exclusive represents a small percentage of the sales, you said exclusives in general. And that's exactly what Sony's support of a variety of exclusives does, it attracts many different types of people and gamers and these groups of gamers bring in more gamers alike so yes, actually data seems to suggest exclusives do matter quite a bit for sales in a cumulative form.
I'm just going to stand here and laugh at you with what you just did and said
Why he has a point. You didn't say a single exclusive represents a small percentage of the sales, you said exclusives in general. And that's exactly what Sony's support of a variety of exclusives does, it attracts many different types of people and gamers and these groups of gamers bring in more gamers alike so yes, actually data seems to suggest exclusives do matter quite a bit for sales in a cumulative form.
The inference is that the small percentage of sales was in relation to total userbase and software sales (software sales in units or dollar-value.) Not each copy of a sold game vs. each user. Otherwise that comparison would be utterly pants-on-head, and that's not Monsieur. @MonsieurX, correct me if i'm wrong.
http://www.vgchartz.com/article/276936/switch-vs-ps4-vs-xbox-one-global-lifetime-salesmay-2018/
I have a small proof here...See the second graphic, during God of War Release Window, Ps4 sales remained mostly the same...
Exclusives sell consoles?...Yes and No...It gives a good name to the console witch helps in sales...But it is nowhere near the importance that it had during the Ps2/Ps1 Era or the hand held market...Ps4 sold a lot at the start without heavy hitter exclusives.And Xbox one sold 39M being a console "without exclusives"...Thats a lot...
Exclusives are more important when talking about Nintendo because their franchises are really big.
I'm just going to stand here and laugh at you with what you just did and said
Why he has a point. You didn't say a single exclusive represents a small percentage of the sales, you said exclusives in general. And that's exactly what Sony's support of a variety of exclusives does, it attracts many different types of people and gamers and these groups of gamers bring in more gamers alike so yes, actually data seems to suggest exclusives do matter quite a bit for sales in a cumulative form.
The inference is that the small percentage of sales was in relation to total userbase and software sales (software sales in units or dollar-value.) Not each copy of a sold game vs. each user. Otherwise that comparison would be utterly pants-on-head, and that's not Monsieur. @MonsieurX, correct me if i'm wrong.
Still the 31% is a percentage in relation to total userbase which is a considerable high number for only 5 games. And how can any conclusion be reached with respect to dollar-value if no one here has access to Sony's finance records. The closest we could get is compare units sold.
Still the 31% is a percentage in relation to total userbase which is a considerable high number for only 5 games. And how can any conclusion be reached with respect to dollar-value if no one here has access to Sony's finance records. The closest we could get is compare units sold.
That seems to be a total unit exclusive sales, versus a total userbase... Which is just an ass-backwards comparison.
As for exclusives in dollar-value, that is correct... Dollar-value is given to software sales as a whole.
@lundy86_4: his words: "Exclusives represent a small percentage of sales considering the user base".
So, considering the user base, 80 Million, you have 25+ Million Exclusives sold. So using the userbase as the argument, as he did, you have more than 31% of exclusive games sold considering the userbase. He never Said one exclusive, he meant them as a whole, so he owned himself.
@recloud: Notice the word "inference." The comparison made would be outright moronic, and that would be outside of @MonsieurX's character. He trolls, but he's by no means an idiot.
If you wanna take the win, go ahead, I guess. Personally, i'd ask him to reiterate the point...
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