when will nintendo get back to that n64 status?

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#101 Pegalamp
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"Sold as much as Halo" In a time were games that sold that much in that error were considered flops?
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#102 DarkLink77
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Dude... the GameCube was N64 status. No games to play throughout the year until the one or two Nintendo releases..... Even Nintendo are hoping the Wii U ends up as Wii status in sales with Xbox/PS status in third party support......

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^This. That said, the GCN had some amazing games on it.
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#103 eboyishere
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[QUOTE="TheEpicGoat"]

Never, unless Retro get innovative like Rare was during the N64.

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Rare was not innovative during the N64.

Rare WAS the N64

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#104 Pegalamp
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The 3DS IS N64 Status, AM I RIGHT SYSTEM WARS?

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An Overrated game. A bad selling rail shooter and a multi-plat games that was better in all ways on the Ps1 except for some cut levels. So you want Nintendo to go back to failing?
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#105 Pegalamp
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

[QUOTE="TheEpicGoat"]

Never, unless Retro get innovative like Rare was during the N64.

eboyishere

Rare was not innovative during the N64.

Rare WAS the N64

In that case there were no games on it.
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#106 nameless12345
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The 3DS IS N64 Status, AM I RIGHT SYSTEM WARS?

LegatoSkyheart

I actually like the N64 originals better. Nothing against the 3DS remakes but just saying.

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#107 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="eboyishere"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Rare was not innovative during the N64.

Pegalamp

Rare WAS the N64

In that case there were no games on it.

N64 had more higher scoring exclusives than the PS1 fyi.

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#108 locopatho
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[QUOTE="Pegalamp"]"Sold as much as Halo" In a time were games that sold that much in that error were considered flops?

Haha yeah 8 million copies sold was a flop :lol:
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#109 Pegalamp
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[QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

Rare WAS the N64

nameless12345

In that case there were no games on it.

N64 had more higher scoring exclusives than the PS1 fyi.

Ehhhh NO? It had like 8 high scoring games.
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#110 Pegalamp
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"]"Sold as much as Halo" In a time were games that sold that much in that error were considered flops?

Haha yeah 8 million copies sold was a flop :lol:

8 mill is a pretty interesting flop for a LEGENDARY games when LEGENDARY GAMES back then sold more and I am including the sales up till the N64 stop producing.
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#111 StealthMonkey4
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The Gamecube was as good or better than the N64... :?

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#112 locopatho
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[QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"]"Sold as much as Halo" In a time were games that sold that much in that error were considered flops?

Haha yeah 8 million copies sold was a flop :lol:

8 mill is a pretty interesting flop for a LEGENDARY games when LEGENDARY GAMES back then sold more and I am including the sales up till the N64 stop producing.

Name any game that sold more that wasn't Mario? I'll wait.
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#113 Pegalamp
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Haha yeah 8 million copies sold was a flop :lol:

8 mill is a pretty interesting flop for a LEGENDARY games when LEGENDARY GAMES back then sold more and I am including the sales up till the N64 stop producing.

Name any game that sold more that wasn't Mario? I'll wait.

On only the N64 or across the platforms?
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#114 locopatho
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[QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"] 8 mill is a pretty interesting flop for a LEGENDARY games when LEGENDARY GAMES back then sold more and I am including the sales up till the N64 stop producing.

Name any game that sold more that wasn't Mario? I'll wait.

On only the N64 or across the platforms?

On any console up to that point?
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#115 Pegalamp
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Name any game that sold more that wasn't Mario? I'll wait.

On only the N64 or across the platforms?

On any console up to that point?

Gran Tourismo.
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#116 locopatho
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[QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"] On only the N64 or across the platforms?

On any console up to that point?

Gran Tourismo.

Ok thats one. Is everything less then GT an instant flop?
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#117 Pegalamp
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="locopatho"] On any console up to that point?

Gran Tourismo.

Ok thats one. Is everything less then GT an instant flop?

You missed the point entirely like most Nintendo fanboys due. The whole point was that there are games that most games that were considered SUPER LEGENDARY at the time sold at a faster rate and more than Goldeneye. Like surprisingly Crash Bandicoot 1. I see 3 but I don't get what people see in 1.
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#118 locopatho
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[QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"] Gran Tourismo.

Ok thats one. Is everything less then GT an instant flop?

You missed the point entirely like most Nintendo fanboys due. The whole point was that there are games that most games that were considered SUPER LEGENDARY at the time sold at a faster rate and more than Goldeneye. Like surprisingly Crash Bandicoot 1. I see 3 but I don't get what people see in 1.

There's like 5 games that sold more then Goldeneye, there's Mario, GT, Final Fantasy and maybe 1 or 2 more. Being in the top 10 selling games of all time at that point is the polar opposite of a flop. A flop is something like the Conduit 2 that reviews and sells poorly. Goldeneye is one of the best selling, best reviewed games of all time and a true cIassic.
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#119 alienlegion
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I'll stay right here thanks. I just said Rare was awesome, so that is ignoring their achievements :?.Goldeneye is a bit overrated and it did not elevate console FPS games to PC level, you may want to think that, but they didn't. Hell that was evident when I was 10, so I know what's up. It wasn't that revolutionary. Halo on the other hand was.

millerlight89

Halo was revolutionary because of what again? Shield restoration? Dual weapon wielding? Vehicle usage? All seen before.

Yes Halo was revolutionary, Goldeneye not even near as innovative as Halo. Look at the number of FPS games we began to get after Halo. Can't really say the same for Goldeneye.

Lol Halo stole all of it's "innovations" from Tribes. BTW there's a difference between influential and innovative. Halo was merely influential, mainly due to it's monetary success. Everybody else wanted to emulate that success, so the FPS market boomed, much like the first wave of post Doom FPS boom back in mid 90s.

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#120 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="Pegalamp"] Gran Tourismo.Pegalamp
Ok thats one. Is everything less then GT an instant flop?

You missed the point entirely like most Nintendo fanboys due. The whole point was that there are games that most games that were considered SUPER LEGENDARY at the time sold at a faster rate and more than Goldeneye. Like surprisingly Crash Bandicoot 1. I see 3 but I don't get what people see in 1.

Crash 1 is hardly "legendary". It's a very average platformer nowadays.

And let me ask you - how many PS1 games could you still re-release and they would still score as well as Ocarina 3D did? Well?

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#121 alienlegion
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[QUOTE="Pegalamp"][QUOTE="locopatho"] Ok thats one. Is everything less then GT an instant flop? nameless12345

You missed the point entirely like most Nintendo fanboys due. The whole point was that there are games that most games that were considered SUPER LEGENDARY at the time sold at a faster rate and more than Goldeneye. Like surprisingly Crash Bandicoot 1. I see 3 but I don't get what people see in 1.

Crash 1 is hardly "legendary". It's a very average platformer nowadays.

And let me ask you - how many PS1 games could you still re-release and they would still score as well as Ocarina 3D did? Well?

Vagrant Story for one:P

Also, Xenogears (assuming they didn't rush it like they did on the PS1)

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#123 93BlackHawk93
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SNES was better than N64.

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#124 mariokart64fan
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and sell less then the competition lose ,

and dont have gamesl ike dkc no chance buddy n64 had great fpses , like goldeneye but it lacked everything else and since wii plays n64 games and has a remade goldeneye i like it the way it is

at least i get my zombies ate my nieghbors goldeneye mariokart marioparty heck i even get driver , bully , moh , punchout metroid , final fantasy iv , ya you go back to n64 and lose support lol

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#125 mariokart64fan
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mgs was already remade gc,

thats out of question and im sure the answer is only 1 -- for me any way- driver 2

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#126 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Pegalamp"] In that case there were no games on it.Pegalamp

N64 had more higher scoring exclusives than the PS1 fyi.

Ehhhh NO? It had like 8 high scoring games.

No on Gamespot the N64 had a lot of high scoring games

  • Ocarina of Time (10/10)
  • Perfect Dark (9.9/10)
  • Goldeneye 007 (9.8/10)
  • Banjo-Tooie (9.6/10)
  • Banjo-Kazooie (9.5/10)
  • Paper Mario (9.5/10)
  • Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 (9.5/10)
  • Super Mario 64 (9.4/10)
  • Madden NFL 2000 (9.4/10)
  • Conker's Bad Fur Day (9.3/10)
  • Rayman 2: The Great Escape (9.3/10)
  • All-Star Baseball 2001 (9.2/10)
  • NFL Blitz (9.1/10)
  • Tony Hawk Pro Skater (9.1/10)
  • Madden NFL 2002 (9.1/10)
  • Madden NFL 2001 (9.1/10)
  • Donkey Kong 64 (9.0/10)
  • Turok 2: Seed's of Evil (9.0/10)

That is 18 games on Gamespot and I didn't even list A or AA titles.

Their would be more if I went by Metacritic.

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#127 youngmurk911
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

You mean when will Nintendo go back to failing?They certainly don't want to go back to that status.

The N64 was pretty disappointing in my opinion. Sure it had SM64, Zelda OOT and Zelda MM. Though nothing else really stands out to me, a lot more stand out to me now with their current console and handhelds. The Wii, DS, 3DS are a lot better than those two previous generations in my opinion. The N64 had some classics but the droughts were horrible and third party support was lacking. The GC had a terrible schedule for game releases but collectively, the library wasn't too bad.

To me personally, the N64 was Nintendo's worst console and the Wii is up there with one of my favourites in terms of game releases and sheer quality of Nintendo's first party offerings and the exclusive, niche type third party experiences.

IMO:

OoT is the best Zelda ever (and MM is better than WW and TP)

Mario 64 is the best Mario ever

Perfect Dark and Goldeneye were LEGENDARY for their time and still do a lot right today

plus it introduced Smash Bros and 3D mario Kart, in addition to so much more. N64 beats Wii by a long shot :P.

agreed
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#128 Mario1331
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they are doing better then they ever have why would they go back?

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#129 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Pegalamp"] You missed the point entirely like most Nintendo fanboys due. The whole point was that there are games that most games that were considered SUPER LEGENDARY at the time sold at a faster rate and more than Goldeneye. Like surprisingly Crash Bandicoot 1. I see 3 but I don't get what people see in 1.Pegalamp

Crash 1 is hardly "legendary". It's a very average platformer nowadays.

And let me ask you - how many PS1 games could you still re-release and they would still score as well as Ocarina 3D did? Well?

Crash being an average platformer makes no sense especially when it for a time sold at a faster rate then Mario 64 and this is including when it was ON PSN and Mario 64 was a DS port.

Sales don't necessarily imply the quality of the game. Crash 1 was pretty average even for the time being (I think it scored 60 or so here on GameSpot) while Mario 64 was basically a revolution in the platformer genre and for games in general.