When will there be an open-world/ sandbox game that allows you to kill children?

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#51 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]It's no different than killing anything elseSparkyProtocol
With that I disagree.

But they aren't real. :o "Should I kill this annoying little kid that kicked my dog or this poor widow?" Simple, kill both. It's just a game. :/

not according to jack the ripper or whatever that anti-video game guy's name is

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#52 thespywholied
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I'm willing to bet thats already in Postal 2.

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Not even they went that far.

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#54 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="crippled_ram"] Uh, yeah. I can live with that- it's my friends, and all of us are engaging in the same game willingly. An NPC child character being killed in a game though, now that's just distrubing. Look at it this way- I've played NSMB Wii loads, often with with my younger brother qualifies as a kid. I keep throwing him into pits, thus 'killing' him. I have no qualms with that, because we're both willingly agreeing to play by the rules of the game. Does that make it clearer?crippled_ram

So NPCs have feelings now and are consenting adults?

you telling me you never once ran over an innocent civilian in a GTA game mr high and mighty?

Yeah, I'm telling you that I didn't play GTA for the longest time, and that when I did, I never killed people needlessly, only if the mission required it.

So you drove responsible and never sped and always pulled over for the police?

or maybe you were doing some wreckless driving and side swiped a few cars, maybe ran a few people over, and damaged some city property?

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#55 Bladecutter56
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For a good long time.

Until the whole thing people have with making children really, really, really annoying, giving you the urge to do nothing but launch a nuke at them and watch them burn while they lulz at you with their unnatural invincibility gets old, anyway.

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#56 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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Can't believe that some of you guys think that killing a fake innocent adult is any different than killing a fake innocent child, they are both fake.
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#57 hd5870corei7
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You want to kill children? Seriously?

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I would love to kill children in videogames.
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#59 nunovlopes
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[QUOTE="crippled_ram"]Why would you want to kill children? :?markinthedark

why wouldnt you?

I don't enjoy killing innocent beings that present no threat to me. That includes children, friends, civillians, animals, etc. What I enjoy about a game is not the killing per se, it's the challenge. What's the point of killing a child? An animal? A civillian? Where's the challenge? If there's no challenge it's not fun.

Well, I did play a bit of Carmageddon back in the day :), and it was fun for about 10 minutes, after that it got boring.

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#60 madsnakehhh
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Why would you want to kill children in a game? How could improve the inmersion on a game being able to kill a child with a shotgun?

What's next, when will there be a game that allows you to enter a hospital and kill recent born babies???

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#61 HelloMoto56
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Can you imagine the public backlash? There would be no way the game would be successful with such strong public outcry.

Vari3ty

this guy said it the best.

it's illegal in most places, and looked down upon as extremely immoral everywhere else.

plus, it's a needless addition so why bother?

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#62 thespywholied
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I'm willing to bet thats already in Postal 2.

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Not even they went that far

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#64 Phaze-Two
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Can't believe that some of you guys think that killing a fake innocent adult is any different than killing a fake innocent child, they are both fake. SAGE_OF_FIRE

I think some people in this thread have maybe lost some virtual loved ones in their previous virtual lives.

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#65 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Relevance? How would killing children make a game more relevant? And authenticity is a weak argument. Adding over-disturbing elements to games just for authenticity's sake makes little sense. There are lots of better ways of improving games than killing children.

It's just a game. One of the biggest features of sandbox games is killing people anyways. Rockstar games anyways.

There is big difference between killing adults and SHOOTING children. No developer in this age would add such a ridiculous and unnecessary feature.

Stop saying it's unnecessary. In a game like Fallout it adds to the immersion. It's no different than killing all of those adults, animals, etc. It's not real life. It's just a game. Plus, who'd "deserve" to die more in a game a little **** that burned a house down because he enjoys making people suffer or the old gai that donates to hospitals and hasn't done anything bad ever? Not that any of it matters at all because in games when I feel like being bad I'd kill them both regardless. :D
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#66 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="IronBass"] Relevance? How would killing children make a game more relevant? And authenticity is a weak argument. Adding over-disturbing elements to games just for authenticity's sake makes little sense. There are lots of better ways of improving games than killing children.Sp4rtan_3
It's just a game. One of the biggest features of sandbox games is killing people anyways. Rockstar games anyways.

There is big difference between killing adults and SHOOTING children. No developer in this age would add such a ridiculous and unnecessary feature.

you do realize the people in the video game arent real?

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#67 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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I love killing the children with that fallout 3 mod hahah it was hilarious.

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#68 Doom_HellKnight
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Why would you want to kill children in the first place?
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#69 HelloMoto56
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you do realize the people in the video game arent real?

markinthedark

that asian guy a few months back who married his virtual girlfriend would like to have a word with you.

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#70 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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I think more of the point is that there actually should be children in the game, if I choose to shoot at them... well then that's my choice.
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#72 SaltyMeatballs
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Why would you want to kill children in a game? How could improve the inmersion on a game being able to kill a child with a shotgun?

What's next, when will there be a game that allows you to enter a hospital and kill recent born babies???

madsnakehhh
Teh realism!
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#73 hd5870corei7
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]Because shooting an adult is funner then blasting a kid with a shotgun.Sp4rtan_3
Eh. Depends.

How does it depend ? Give me ONE instance where shooting a kid would be acceptable ?

Fallout 3. Oh my god you have no idea how much I enjoyed child killing mods. Other examples; MGS4, I was wish I could put a hole in sunny's head tbh. + Fable lololol
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#74 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] It's just a game. One of the biggest features of sandbox games is killing people anyways. Rockstar games anyways.markinthedark

There is big difference between killing adults and SHOOTING children. No developer in this age would add such a ridiculous and unnecessary feature.

you do realize the people in the video game arent real?

Of course but your still not giving me a legitimate reason why killing children would be acceptable in a game:?
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#75 dark-warmachine
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Can't believe that some of you guys think that killing a fake innocent adult is any different than killing a fake innocent child, they are both fake. SAGE_OF_FIRE
This is true ofcourse but it's kind of obvious society hold children at a higher priority than any other class; so don'tact too surprised.

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#76 crippled_ram
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Can't believe that some of you guys think that killing a fake innocent adult is any different than killing a fake innocent child, they are both fake. SAGE_OF_FIRE
OR maybe, we just draw a line- some things just shouldn't be in games. Killing children is one of them. You could just extend this argument to other morally questionable acts as well, you know. Like, why not have a game all about raping women? It's not like the women are real, are they? But that would be just wrong. There are some things that really should not be depicted in any medium unless they are absolutely necessary for the story. So if a game featured a child dying as an integral part of the story, sure, I would be disturbed, but I'd live with it. But just indiscriminately killing kids for the heck of it is SICK.
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#77 nervmeister
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Why would you want to kill children in the first place? Doom_HellKnight
I want the OPTION to kill children in video games.
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#78 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiJCD2jtK_c&feature=related

hahaha hilarious.

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#80 markinthedark
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Why would you want to kill children in the first place? Doom_HellKnight

same reason i want to kill adults in video games?

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#81 SaltyMeatballs
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Why would you want to kill children in a game? How could improve the inmersion on a game being able to kill a child with a shotgun?

What's next, when will there be a game that allows you to enter a hospital and kill recent born babies???

Phaze-Two

hopefully thats next.

extra points if you kill the babies while the parents are looking through the glass, helplessly. you can then proceed to kill them too. and that nurse who just started screaming and running away.

That's sickening, man. You are on the wrong website.
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#82 crippled_ram
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[QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] Its psychopathic to kill polygons? You look at polygons as a real life human child? Who's the psychopath now? ...

So, you'd simulate killing people, would you? That's not psychopathic?
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#83 Indie_Hitman
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I'm with TC completely, I WANT TO KILL CHILDREN. You listening developers!? I do it often in real life, but I need something to do in the rest of my time. A baby-eating simulator would be nice as well. [spoiler] jk, a baby eating simulator would be pointless since you don't get any of the great taste. [/spoiler] angelkimne
I want to rip them open and feast on their delicately aligned organs, their juicy pancrei and harvest their plentiful intestines. Just thinking about it makes me sweat. Be right back.
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#84 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]Can't believe that some of you guys think that killing a fake innocent adult is any different than killing a fake innocent child, they are both fake. Phaze-Two

I think some people in this thread have maybe lost some virtual loved ones in their previous virtual lives.

AHAHAHAHA! Good one! :lol:
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#85 mike_on_mic
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Why do you want to kill children. Jezz man, that isn't something anyone should aspire to play in a game.
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#86 Birdy09
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Kids SHOULD be off limits. Jesus, you'd think some gamers actually WANTED to be treated like psychopaths.

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So being a psychopath will adults is ok? what a double standard..... pixel children, are pixels..... hell even films like pirates of the caribean had a child hung...
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#87 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"] There is big difference between killing adults and SHOOTING children. No developer in this age would add such a ridiculous and unnecessary feature.Sp4rtan_3

you do realize the people in the video game arent real?

Of course but your still not giving me a legitimate reason why killing children would be acceptable in a game:?

why is it acceptable to kill adults in video games?

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#88 hd5870corei7
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Why would you want to kill children in the first place? Doom_HellKnight
Cos children are annoying, nothing more satisfying killing something that bugs you. Why would you want to kill animals in the first place? Who here avoids killing animals in games? (I do, I use stealth mode in oblivion or calm on the bears cos killing bears is wrong) Also, if any one here killed bears in Red Dead Redemption then shame on you!
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#89 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] Its psychopathic to kill polygons? You look at polygons as a real life human child? Who's the psychopath now? ...

So, you'd simulate killing people, would you? That's not psychopathic?

Not to 99% of game developers.
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#90 tagyhag
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Some people here have weak stomachs. :P
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#91 lordreaven
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I will ask a question then why kill kids, i want to kill midgets!

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#92 Doom_HellKnight
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[QUOTE="Doom_HellKnight"]Why would you want to kill children in the first place? markinthedark

same reason i want to kill adults in video games?

Adults pose a legitimate threat and challenge most of the time. I can't imagine children doing that. Don't get me wrong. I'd have nothing against having the option to kill children if it were there, but it seems like it would be kind of pointless.
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#93 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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^There's a huge difference between killing an animal and killing a childen. =/
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#94 HelloMoto56
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Cos children are annoying, nothing more satisfying killing something that bugs you. Why would you want to kill animals in the first place? Who here avoids killing animals in games? (I do, I use stealth mode in oblivion or calm on the bears cos killing bears is wrong) Also, if any one here killed bears in Red Dead Redemption then shame on you!hd5870corei7

why don't we also have a game that allows you to rape women and suck a guy off?

realism right?

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#95 hellhund
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You get an achievement for killing babies in Dante's Inferno. I found it most therapeutic to impale the babies on my scythe.

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#96 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="nervmeister"] Eh. Depends.hd5870corei7
How does it depend ? Give me ONE instance where shooting a kid would be acceptable ?

Fallout 3. Oh my god you have no idea how much I enjoyed child killing mods. Other examples; MGS4, I was wish I could put a hole in sunny's head tbh. + Fable lololol

I wanted to kill that kid in FO3 that calls you **** butt so bad. Good thing I'm getting the PC version of New Vegas. :D If only I could push him into a pit of feral ghouls.

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#97 HelloMoto56
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You get an achievement for killing babies in Dante's Inferno. I found it most therapeutic to impale the babies on my scythe.

hellhund

those were barely babies.

more like midgets with claws.

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#98 nunovlopes
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Can't believe that some of you guys think that killing a fake innocent adult is any different than killing a fake innocent child, they are both fake. SAGE_OF_FIRE

People have emotions, you can't say it's only pixels, polygons, whatever, people react to what they see. Have you never felt sorry for someone that died in a movie? Never got scared? Maybe even afraid? Why? It's only a movie, everything is fake just like in a video game. It's because we have emotions that we enjoy video games, movies, etc. So you can't just dismiss that's there's no difference in killing a virtual animal, adult or child. There is a difference.

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#99 HavocV3
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I thought about this one time. all adults, but no children, you think of it once, but you USUALLY keep that to yourself, because you figure that's not even remotely necessary in a game:?

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#100 crippled_ram
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="crippled_ram"][QUOTE="hd5870corei7"] Its psychopathic to kill polygons? You look at polygons as a real life human child? Who's the psychopath now? ...

So, you'd simulate killing people, would you? That's not psychopathic?

Not to 99% of game developers.

Yeah, and there's a reason why games are targetted by politicians most of the time you know. Again, violence is fine if the story the game is telling NEEDS it. But if there is just indiscriminate killing for the heck it, then both the developer and the gamer who enjoys the game, are SICK.