When you say PC gaming is expensive put "in the USA" in front...

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

True_Gamer_

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

Bromz

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When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

True_Gamer_

since when were pc games overpriced and console games cheap?

:| PC games in the U.S are also cheaper than console games. In the UK PC games are cheaper than console games, though not that much cheaper. The real price that everyone complains about is the hardware. In the U.S it's not too bad, but in the UK and certain parts of Europe it's really not cheap at all. For those that don't know how to build their own PC's it's gonna be close to a grand to play the latest games on the highest settings.-Xeno-

Really? I get my PC games for £17-25 .... retail , Xbox £40 .... thats a huge difference to me, I can get 2 PC games for the price of 1 , or even more in some cases because of deals like Company of Heroes & Expansion in 1 for £17.

:| PC games in the U.S are also cheaper than console games. In the UK PC games are cheaper than console games, though not that much cheaper. The real price that everyone complains about is the hardware. In the U.S it's not too bad, but in the UK and certain parts of Europe it's really not cheap at all. For those that don't know how to build their own PC's it's gonna be close to a grand to play the latest games on the highest settings.-Xeno-

Not much cheaper? are you kidding? Console games, brand new cost £35-£45. Pc games, brand new cost £15-£27.

I got The Witcher, Crysis, UT3 and Gears of War for just under £90. That was last year before xmas. My friend got Mass effect and CoD4 for his 360, cost him over £80.

Also, http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=playstation+3

this is how much a Ps3 costs in the uk. My pc, E6750 duel core, 2 gig ram and 8800gts 640mb, 160gig hd, cost me £700 with monitor. Yes my pc cost more, but the price difference isn't what u would think. Yes i can play crysis all on high on XP.

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

True_Gamer_

The actual hardware outside the US is incredibly expensive and runs into the thousands.

The PC and Console market aren't either in competition with eachother, even one company, Microsoft, make money off BOTH, why do people go ON and ON about the PC vs. Consoles... usually its the Hermit's FURIOUSLY trying to justify the cost of their hardware.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

BambooBanger

The actual hardware outside the US is incredibly expensive and runs into the thousands.

Read the post above you plz

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

BambooBanger

The actual hardware outside the US is incredibly expensive and runs into the thousands.

No? My PC ( in my profile ) cost me £650 for teh entire tower ... my mate is building one in April, for £540 that is actually better than mine , except hes Duo not Quad Core ( his is higher clocked ), but he has a better GPU, everything else is similar.

We dont pay extra ontop of hardware, we do on all 3 consoles.

[QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

Frozzik

The actual hardware outside the US is incredibly expensive and runs into the thousands.

Read the post above you plz

700 Pounds is almost $2000 AUD and $1500 USD....

[QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

Meu2k7

The actual hardware outside the US is incredibly expensive and runs into the thousands.

No? My PC ( in my profile ) cost me £650 for teh entire tower ... my mate is building one in April, for £540 that is actually better than mine , except hes Duo not Quad Core ( his is higher clocked ), but he has a better GPU, everything else is similar.

We dont pay extra ontop of hardware, we do on all 3 consoles.

I wouldn't even bother. Let them think we all pay £3000 for our pc's.

[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

BambooBanger

The actual hardware outside the US is incredibly expensive and runs into the thousands.

Read the post above you plz

700 Pounds is almost $2000 AUD and $1500 USD....

In direct currency conversion yes, but not at retail prices, the same PC would cost about $1000 from £700.

[QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

Meu2k7

The actual hardware outside the US is incredibly expensive and runs into the thousands.

Read the post above you plz

700 Pounds is almost $2000 AUD and $1500 USD....

In direct currency conversion yes, but not at retail prices, the same PC would cost about $1000 from £700.

Your Average dual core PC with 2 GB RAM is about $1700 here. That's rather expensive.

[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

BambooBanger

The actual hardware outside the US is incredibly expensive and runs into the thousands.

Read the post above you plz

700 Pounds is almost $2000 AUD and $1500 USD....

Look at the link to the PS3. Premium PS3 costs £450. Thats only £250 less than my pc, i have made that up in software already. NOW do u understand?

EDIT: This would actually make a great new thread here in SW. I could post some links basically proving pc gaming isn't that expensive. Not in the uk anyway.

Amazing isn't it. How fast a thread dies when facts prove people wrong.Frozzik

So Console games dont cost 60-70 euros? PC games dont cost 25-35?

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]Amazing isn't it. How fast a thread dies when facts prove people wrong.True_Gamer_

So Console games dont cost 60-70 euros? PC games dont cost 25-35?

yes they do. That was my point. I was actually refering to the price of hardware though. £450 for a premium PS3, £35-£45 for games. £700 for high end pc with monitor, £15-£25 for games. Yet im told pc gaming costs the earth.

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]Amazing isn't it. How fast a thread dies when facts prove people wrong.True_Gamer_

So Console games dont cost 60-70 euros? PC games dont cost 25-35?

Most PC gamers get their PC games for much less than 25-35 euro's, if you know what I mean.

BTW how good is Crysis selling again??

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]Amazing isn't it. How fast a thread dies when facts prove people wrong.deangallop

So Console games dont cost 60-70 euros? PC games dont cost 25-35?

Most PC gamers get their PC games for much less than 25-35 euro's, if you know what I mean.

BTW how good is Crysis selling again??

who knows, we have only been shown the sales for november, no, 3 weeks in november and only in the US. During this 3 weeks, crysis didn't sell many BOXED copies in the US so its automatically classed as a poor game, strange.

[QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]Amazing isn't it. How fast a thread dies when facts prove people wrong.Frozzik

So Console games dont cost 60-70 euros? PC games dont cost 25-35?

Most PC gamers get their PC games for much less than 25-35 euro's, if you know what I mean.

BTW how good is Crysis selling again??

who knows, we have only been shown the sales for november, no, 3 weeks in november and only in the US. During this 3 weeks, crysis didn't sell many BOXED copies in the US so its automatically classed as a poor game, strange.

Well when one of the Crysis developers comes out and says that because of pirating that Crysis is doing terrible in sales, you gotta know that somethings wrong.

Plus this is one of the PC's biggest hit's it should be selling a lot more box copies than it has.

[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]Amazing isn't it. How fast a thread dies when facts prove people wrong.deangallop

So Console games dont cost 60-70 euros? PC games dont cost 25-35?

Most PC gamers get their PC games for much less than 25-35 euro's, if you know what I mean.

BTW how good is Crysis selling again??

who knows, we have only been shown the sales for november, no, 3 weeks in november and only in the US. During this 3 weeks, crysis didn't sell many BOXED copies in the US so its automatically classed as a poor game, strange.

Well when one of the Crysis developers comes out and says that because of pirating that Crysis is doing terrible in sales, you gotta know that somethings wrong.

Plus this is one of the PC's biggest hit's it should be selling a lot more box copies than it has.

Do u have a link to the crysis dev saying that? i would actually like to read that, hate piracy. On another note im not sure what crysis sales have to do with anything? Do sales make it a poor game? Do sales have anything to do with this thread? Will consolites ever realise pc games sell over time? unlike console games? I often buy old games, its the nature of pc gaming, mods and other downloads make games last a long long time. Many pc gamers wait a fair while b4 buying games.

[QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

who knows, we have only been shown the sales for november, no, 3 weeks in november and only in the US. During this 3 weeks, crysis didn't sell many BOXED copies in the US so its automatically classed as a poor game, strange.

Frozzik

Well when one of the Crysis developers comes out and says that because of pirating that Crysis is doing terrible in sales, you gotta know that somethings wrong.

Plus this is one of the PC's biggest hit's it should be selling a lot more box copies than it has.

Do u have a link to the crysis dev saying that? i would actually like to read that, hate piracy. On another note im not sure what crysis sales have to do with anything? Do sales make it a poor game? Do sales have anything to do with this thread? Will consolites ever realise pc games sell over time? unlike console games? I often buy old games, its the nature of pc gaming, mods and other downloads make games last a long long time. Many pc gamers wait a fair while b4 buying games.

I tryed to look for a link but couldn't find one, I heard it on the 1up yours or EGM podcast a couple weeks ago you can find it on Itunes.

I'm not calling Crysis a poor game or anything, I just wanted to rebuttel True_gamers lame attempt at ownage when he said at the end of the OP "How's 360 doing in japan again???".

[QUOTE="Frozzik"][QUOTE="deangallop"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

who knows, we have only been shown the sales for november, no, 3 weeks in november and only in the US. During this 3 weeks, crysis didn't sell many BOXED copies in the US so its automatically classed as a poor game, strange.

deangallop

Well when one of the Crysis developers comes out and says that because of pirating that Crysis is doing terrible in sales, you gotta know that somethings wrong.

Plus this is one of the PC's biggest hit's it should be selling a lot more box copies than it has.

Do u have a link to the crysis dev saying that? i would actually like to read that, hate piracy. On another note im not sure what crysis sales have to do with anything? Do sales make it a poor game? Do sales have anything to do with this thread? Will consolites ever realise pc games sell over time? unlike console games? I often buy old games, its the nature of pc gaming, mods and other downloads make games last a long long time. Many pc gamers wait a fair while b4 buying games.

I tryed to look for a link but couldn't find one, I heard it on the 1up yours or EGM podcast a couple weeks ago you can find it on Itunes.

I'm not calling Crysis a poor game or anything, I just wanted to rebuttel True_gamers lame attempt at ownage when he said at the end of the OP "How's 360 doing in japan again???".

Well im one of the few pc gamers that believes piracy is a major problem. I think it will impact sales, more than people think.

Well im one of the few pc gamers that believes piracy is a major problem. I think it will impact sales, more than people think. Frozzik

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

True_Gamer_

How the Pc gaming market doing period.

Let's see, PC gaming market is 1.7 billion and console gaming market is 17.4 billion.

Who really cares how much PC games cost, when developers are switching over to consoles games because they can't make much profit selling PC games. :P

[QUOTE="Frozzik"]Well im one of the few pc gamers that believes piracy is a major problem. I think it will impact sales, more than people think. Vandalvideo

You really believe that.

I just went to a torrent site and saw a counter for a Crysis rip that had

and no I'm not lying

199,137 total downloads.

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

When PC games cost 25-37 euros and console games cost 60-70 euros...its just the USA that has cheap console games and overpriced PC games...

BTW hows the 360 doin in Japan?

blackace

How the Pc gaming market doing period.

Let's see, PC gaming market is 1.7 billion and console gaming market is 17.4 billion.

Who really cares how much PC games cost, when developers are switching over to consoles games because they can't make much profit selling PC games. :P

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Frozzik"]Well im one of the few pc gamers that believes piracy is a major problem. I think it will impact sales, more than people think. deangallop

You really believe that.

I just went to a torrent site and saw a counter for a Crysis rip that had

and no I'm not lying

199,137 total downloads.

True. actually, piracy is a huge problem for all media formats, something needs to be done, but I guess thats the downside to the PC .. open source.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Frozzik"]Well im one of the few pc gamers that believes piracy is a major problem. I think it will impact sales, more than people think. deangallop

You really believe that.

I just went to a torrent site and saw a counter for a Crysis rip that had

and no I'm not lying

199,137 total downloads.

Aye, i can believe you. Makes me so mad.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Frozzik"]Well im one of the few pc gamers that believes piracy is a major problem. I think it will impact sales, more than people think. deangallop

You really believe that.

I just went to a torrent site and saw a counter for a Crysis rip that had

and no I'm not lying

199,137 total downloads.

I don't think you should name the file system that allows you to do these piracies, there, deangallop.Jandurin

Not going to.

and I don't really pirate games, I just know how to.

[QUOTE="deangallop"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Frozzik"]Well im one of the few pc gamers that believes piracy is a major problem. I think it will impact sales, more than people think. Vandalvideo

You really believe that.

I just went to a torrent site and saw a counter for a Crysis rip that had

and no I'm not lying

199,137 total downloads.

Seeds are only there helping, I'm talking about total complete downloads.

I found a Crysis torrent with 1103 seeds right now.

PC's are even more expensive in Japan then the USA, why else do you think the Japanese won't play World of Warcraft other then the game not being released there?Gunraidan

Seeds are only there helping, I'm talking about total complete downloads.I found a Crysis torrent with 1103 seeds right now.deangallop

[QUOTE="Gunraidan"]PC's are even more expensive in Japan then the USA, why else do you think the Japanese won't play World of Warcraft other then the game not being released there?Vandalvideo

That was probably the pirated version that you can download online (siimliar to the English Touhou Projects), there has been no official release in Japan as far as I know.

I just went to a torrent site and saw a counter for a Crysis rip that had

and no I'm not lying

199,137 total downloads.deangallop

I can only imagine how horrible that game plays downloaded.

[QUOTE="deangallop"]Seeds are only there helping, I'm talking about total complete downloads.I found a Crysis torrent with 1103 seeds right now.Vandalvideo

Your not looking at the biggest site obviously. Keep an eye on you messages tab.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="deangallop"]Seeds are only there helping, I'm talking about total complete downloads.I found a Crysis torrent with 1103 seeds right now.deangallop

Your not looking at the biggest site obviously. Keep an eye on you messages tab.