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#51 lostrib
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well both sony and ms require paying for online, so yeah...

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#52 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Sony makes it worth paying for. If Sony provided the same service as Microsoft (pay and get nothing back), I would have been devastated.

TheEroica

I got crackdown a few days ago free and in a few days I get dead rising 2 free.... Ms is giving free games away too only I get to keep mine.


We are talking about next-gen consoles right? I believe you don't get any free games on your Xbox One, meanwhile PlayStation Plus will keep giving you games.

Anyway, PlayStation Plus gave it's subscribers 1500+ dollars worth of content in 2012.
PlayStation Plus members got to play all of these games if they wanted to:

[spoiler] collage-of-ps3-games.jpg [/spoiler]

How many times are you going to finish Crackdown and Dead Rising 2? Probably just as much as anyone who plays PlayStation Plus games.

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#53 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

Sony makes it worth paying for. If Sony provided the same service as Microsoft (pay and get nothing back), I would have been devastated.

Davekeeh

I got crackdown a few days ago free and in a few days I get dead rising 2 free.... Ms is giving free games away too only I get to keep mine.


We are talking about next-gen consoles right? I believe you don't get any free games on your Xbox One, meanwhile PlayStation Plus will keep giving you games.

Anyway, PlayStation Plus gave it's subscribers 1500 dollars worth of content in 2012.
PlayStation Plus members got to play all of these games if they wanted to:

[spoiler] collage-of-ps3-games.jpg [/spoiler]

How many times are you going to finish Crackdown and Dead Rising 2? Probably just as much as anyone who plays PlayStation Plus games.

Paid to get hacked?
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#54 GulliversTravel
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Its all about the principle brah!
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#55 TheEroica  Moderator
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] Enjoying those 5 year old games? I'm downloading Hitman Absolution as we speak. :cool:

I picked up his man on xbl a few weeks after it came out for 19.99. Amazing deal! And have you played crackdown darkspineslayer... Soooo good. Did you get dc yet? I've already sunk over a full twenty hours into it.... I can't stop.

I picked up a disk copy around January for that price. Didn't really get into it and traded it in shortly after I finally opened and played it. PS+ is giving me a second shot at it. Never played Crackdown, if I ever get another 360 I might track it down. I'm mulling over downloading it right now. Problem is the game lacks cross-play for some stupid reason and I'm stuck between getting the version I intended on playing and playing with you and Heil.

Get one now and then the other later on when it hits a drop. It took me a good 6-7 hours before unlocking the coop. From my experience with it thus far, the vita version would be awesome because holy shit, dragon's crown on a handheld is like pb and j. That said, it is a very chaotic game and I can't imagine the small screen being as enjoyable as the large screen... Let me know what u decide. I'd love to coop it with you guys.
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Disappeared after Sony God made it justifiable for some reason.
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[QUOTE="TheEroica"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] I picked up his man on xbl a few weeks after it came out for 19.99. Amazing deal! And have you played crackdown darkspineslayer... Soooo good. Did you get dc yet? I've already sunk over a full twenty hours into it.... I can't stop.

I picked up a disk copy around January for that price. Didn't really get into it and traded it in shortly after I finally opened and played it. PS+ is giving me a second shot at it. Never played Crackdown, if I ever get another 360 I might track it down. I'm mulling over downloading it right now. Problem is the game lacks cross-play for some stupid reason and I'm stuck between getting the version I intended on playing and playing with you and Heil.

Get one now and then the other later on when it hits a drop. It took me a good 6-7 hours before unlocking the coop. From my experience with it thus far, the vita version would be awesome because holy shit, dragon's crown on a handheld is like pb and j. That said, it is a very chaotic game and I can't imagine the small screen being as enjoyable as the large screen... Let me know what u decide. I'd love to coop it with you guys.

I might go with the Vita version, just because it will be something other than Muramasa to play on this trip I'm taking shortly. Heads up though, I'm in the lounge, trying to talk the new mods into a podcast. Does a weekend recording work for you guys?
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#58 j_assassin
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Whats the problem? Ps3 online play is still free last time i checked..
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#59 lostrib
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Whats the problem? Ps3 online play is still free last time i checked..j_assassin

But you have to pay for PS4

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I usually saw 2-3 posts a day about that in the past. But I don't see anymore of those posts.  Where did they go?

crusadernm
i hate that sony switched to it. but i understand why they did as a company. Im mad but what can i do. I guess the playing field is leveled in the next gen. this current gen though , ps3 has a clear advantage. i hate it but i can't do anything about it.
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#61 Ribnarak
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[QUOTE="j_assassin"]Whats the problem? Ps3 online play is still free last time i checked..lostrib

But you have to pay for PS4

thanks for stating the obvious . I'm pretty sure sony fanboys are upset as well but what can they do? If MS was able to make a profit out of live , sony probably wondered why they couldn't either. Too bad we can't do anything about it.
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#62 j_assassin
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[QUOTE="j_assassin"]Whats the problem? Ps3 online play is still free last time i checked..lostrib

But you have to pay for PS4

I guess its the same as when people were saying bluray wasnt needed ;)
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[QUOTE="darkspineslayer"][QUOTE="TheEroica"] I got crackdown a few days ago free and in a few days I get dead rising 2 free.... Ms is giving free games away too only I get to keep mine. mems_1224
Enjoying those 5 year old games? I'm downloading Hitman Absolution as we speak. :cool:

you're renting hitman.

Yet you don't at all own Crackdown or Dead Rising 2. And you say renting like its a bad thing. Looking at Gamestops success, I think its pretty clear that most people do not keep their games. And the price of Plus makes access to these games cost pennies on the dollar.
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#64 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="j_assassin"]Whats the problem? Ps3 online play is still free last time i checked..j_assassin

But you have to pay for PS4

I guess its the same as when people were saying bluray wasnt needed ;)

Yep. Every fanboy Lem talked about how bad it was and even went out of their way to buy the disc version of Betamax even though hardly any studio even supported it.
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="darkspineslayer"] Enjoying those 5 year old games? I'm downloading Hitman Absolution as we speak. :cool:

you're renting hitman.

Yet you don't at all own Crackdown or Dead Rising 2. And you say renting like its a bad thing. Looking at Gamestops success, I think its pretty clear that most people do not keep their games. And the price of Plus makes access to these games cost pennies on the dollar.

no, i do own crackdown. its mine forever.
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I usually saw 2-3 posts a day about that in the past. But I don't see anymore of those posts.  Where did they go?

crusadernm
They got drowned out by the XBL Paywall.
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The tune has evolved into "PS+ is worth it."
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#68 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] you're renting hitman.

Yet you don't at all own Crackdown or Dead Rising 2. And you say renting like its a bad thing. Looking at Gamestops success, I think its pretty clear that most people do not keep their games. And the price of Plus makes access to these games cost pennies on the dollar.

no, i do own crackdown. its mine forever.

If you have the digital version, you have a license to play it which can be revoked for any reason M$ sees fit. And good luck RE-downloading it or transferring the license once 360 online support is dropped.
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

I always thought they were complaining about the principle of it.  But I guess not.

mems_1224
they were but quickly back peddled and changed their tune.

They always change their tune when it's something negative for their favorite system. They did the same thing when Sony put Rumble back into the DS3. LOL!! First it was "Sixaxis is better and more innovative then rumble. We don't need rumble." Then when it came back they were, "Sony knew rumble was good so they added it back and kept Sixaxis as well."
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#71 blackace
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="j_assassin"]Whats the problem? Ps3 online play is still free last time i checked..j_assassin

But you have to pay for PS4

I guess its the same as when people were saying bluray wasnt needed ;)

It wasn't needed last generation. Sheesh the XBox 360 proved that in spades. The Wii proved that as well, as it completely destroyed the PS3 in sales in all categories. So yeah, looks like we were right. Blu-Ray WASN'T NEEDED. Is it needed now? Sure, games are getting a lot larger and most games will now be 1080p, so you're going to need all the extra space. That's why it's in the XBox One now.
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Yet you don't at all own Crackdown or Dead Rising 2. And you say renting like its a bad thing. Looking at Gamestops success, I think its pretty clear that most people do not keep their games. And the price of Plus makes access to these games cost pennies on the dollar.Murderstyle75
no, i do own crackdown. its mine forever.

 If you have the digital version, you have a license to play it which can be revoked for any reason M$ sees fit. And good luck RE-downloading it or transferring the license once 360 online support is dropped.

Nope, its my game for the rest of my life. Thank you MS.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="crusadernm"]

I always thought they were complaining about the principle of it.  But I guess not.

blackace
they were but quickly back peddled and changed their tune.

They always change their tune when it's something negative for their favorite system. They did the same thing when Sony put Rumble back into the DS3. LOL!! First it was "Sixaxis is better and more innovative then rumble. We don't need rumble." Then when it came back they were, "Sony knew rumble was good so they added it back and kept Sixaxis as well."

That's a general fanboy trait though not limited to just cows. The only difference between a Cow and Lem is the name on the box they worship.
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#74 Murderstyle75
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] no, i do own crackdown. its mine forever. mems_1224

 If you have the digital version, you have a license to play it which can be revoked for any reason M$ sees fit. And good luck RE-downloading it or transferring the license once 360 online support is dropped.

Nope, its my game for the rest of my life. Thank you MS.

Only if you have the disc. I mean by your logic, I should still have the premium Splinter Cell content I purchased last gen. Guess what? I don't.
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]

Uh no.

Ive always defended the idea of paying for an online service. Cows on the other hand claim I was just being bent over. So I'm just using their own logic against them. They can't spend 7+ years making fun of people who pay for online, only to say its okay when it happens to them. Doesn't work like that :lol:

I said it many times over the last couple of years that Sony would wait until the PS4 to charge for online, and I was right.

:cool:

RR360DD

So what you're saying is that you enjoy being bent over, then? Okay. Doesn't change anything I've said, lol.

No I'm saying cows are getting bent over.

Damn, that cow DC

:cool:

You think I'm a cow? lol, I'm maing fun of your fanboyism. I never said you were wrong, either. Just said that you were being bent over too, lol.
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]  If you have the digital version, you have a license to play it which can be revoked for any reason M$ sees fit. And good luck RE-downloading it or transferring the license once 360 online support is dropped. Murderstyle75

Nope, its my game for the rest of my life. Thank you MS.

Only if you have the disc. I mean by your logic, I should still have the premium Splinter Cell content I purchased last gen. Guess what? I don't.

Thats your problem. I will forever have Crackdown. U mad?
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Nope, its my game for the rest of my life. Thank you MS.mems_1224
Only if you have the disc. I mean by your logic, I should still have the premium Splinter Cell content I purchased last gen. Guess what? I don't.

Thats your problem. I will forever have Crackdown. U mad?

I downloaded Crackdown too. I'm just not dumb enough to think I own it. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/livetou 2.5. What limitations apply to my access and use of Microsoft and third-party content? We may disable access to Microsoft and third-party content associated with your account for any reason. We may also remove or disable copies of applications on your Authorized Device in order to protect the Services, application providers, network operators or any other affected or potentially affected parties. Some content and applications available on the Services may be unavailable from time to time or may only be offered for a limited time due to contractual or other limitations, such as the Territory of your Account. As such, you may not be able to re-download content or applications or re-stream certain content that you have purchased; for example, if you change your account to another Territory you may need to re-purchase content or applications that were available to you and paid for in your previous Territory. Except to the extent required by applicable law, we have no obligation to provide a re-download or replacement of any content or application previously purchased. If we receive information from the content owners indicating the dates their content will be unavailable, we will try to share this information with you. 2.6. Who is responsible for the data and content? You are responsible for backing up the data and content that you store on the Services. We may permanently delete your data from our servers if the Services are suspended or canceled. We do not have any obligation to return data to you after the Services are suspended or canceled. If data is stored with an expiration date, we may also delete the data as of that date. Deleted data may be irretrievable.
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Only if you have the disc. I mean by your logic, I should still have the premium Splinter Cell content I purchased last gen. Guess what? I don't.

Thats your problem. I will forever have Crackdown. U mad?

I downloaded Crackfown too. I'm just not dumb enough to think I own it. http://www.xbox.com/en-US/legal/livetou 2.5. What limitations apply to my access and use of Microsoft and third-party content? We may disable access to Microsoft and third-party content associated with your account for any reason. We may also remove or disable copies of applications on your Authorized Device in order to protect the Services, application providers, network operators or any other affected or potentially affected parties. Some content and applications available on the Services may be unavailable from time to time or may only be offered for a limited time due to contractual or other limitations, such as the Territory of your Account. As such, you may not be able to re-download content or applications or re-stream certain content that you have purchased; for example, if you change your account to another Territory you may need to re-purchase content or applications that were available to you and paid for in your previous Territory. Except to the extent required by applicable law, we have no obligation to provide a re-download or replacement of any content or application previously purchased. If we receive information from the content owners indicating the dates their content will be unavailable, we will try to share this information with you. 2.6. Who is responsible for the data and content? You are responsible for backing up the data and content that you store on the Services. We may permanently delete your data from our servers if the Services are suspended or canceled. We do not have any obligation to return data to you after the Services are suspended or canceled. If data is stored with an expiration date, we may also delete the data as of that date. Deleted data may be irretrievable.

 Im sorry, I cant hear you over the sound of me playing my free Crackdown.
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Apparently you were too stupid to read or even understand the Xbox Live Terms of Use upon purchase of the service. F*cking kids these days. Didnt read because you couldn't understand it anyway.
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#80 ramonnl
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One Year of PS Plus Value In Free Games: $1854.86

Even if the free games were useless, stil a better deal than xpcbox one!

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#81 Badosh
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Sony would never do that! NEVER!
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One Year of PS Plus Value In "Free" Games: $1854.86

Even if the "free" games were useless, stil a better deal than xpcbox one!

ramonnl

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I've always scorned MS for making people pay for XBL despite it offering almost nother over PSN. I'm not too thrilled about having to pay to play online, but hey, at least I get free games out of it.

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#84 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

I always thought they were complaining about the principle of it.  But I guess not.

lx_theo

If you actually looked at the reaction of it, this is the reality of it... Most are not in favor of it. Some are because they think it will improve the online, but most rather not. Most of the people against, though, already have PS+ and their reaction has been very mild because of it... Or they have decided to simply not play online.

PS3 owner here. I'm more than likely not going to get PS+ if I do get a PS4.

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their cable bill came and they hadn't paid their bill since they started their subscription, notice from their telecom said they cable has been shut off until their bill is paid
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#86 whiskeystrike
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Still here.

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#87 lx_theo
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="crusadernm"]

I always thought they were complaining about the principle of it.  But I guess not.

Demonjoe93

If you actually looked at the reaction of it, this is the reality of it... Most are not in favor of it. Some are because they think it will improve the online, but most rather not. Most of the people against, though, already have PS+ and their reaction has been very mild because of it... Or they have decided to simply not play online.

PS3 owner here. I'm more than likely not going to get PS+ if I do get a PS4.

Which I highly respect. If I didn't think the PS+ deal was worth it (I don't count online play as part of what I'm paying for when saying that), then I wouldn't get PS+ to play online either. If it changes where I don't think the deal is worth it, I will give up online play on the console. Think that's the general opinion in general.
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#88 Ne-Plus-Ultra
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I don't see what the big problem is? I have no problem admitting that seven years ago I said I would never pay for multiplayer, but back then multiplayer was no where as big as it is today.

So as a reasonable person who understands business, I can easily see why paying for online gaming is necessary, plus Sony has already stated that the money from PS+ will not be for profits, but will be for improving and maintaining PS+ and online gaming.

I look at it like this, PSN on PS3 was new and had growing pains, basically in the beginning it was still bata, over the years it has steadily improved, during that time we got it for free, now seven years later we have a much different PSN then what we started with, and we have the PS4, it will have many more people who are primarily focused on online gaming from the beginning then the PS3 had, thus the costs for maintaining and improving will go up significantly.

I know in a perfect world all online gaming would be free, if that really matters to you then you still have PS3, Nintendo, and PC gaming, but at fifty bucks a year, plus cloud storage, new games to play every month, and discounts it's not a bad deal. 

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#89 Murderstyle75
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I've always scorned MS for making people pay for XBL despite it offering almost nother over PSN. I'm not too thrilled about having to pay to play online, but hey, at least I get free games out of it.

XVision84
So make a stand instead like Windows gamers did when M$ tried to charge for Windows Live.
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#90 blackace
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] they were but quickly back peddled and changed their tune.

They always change their tune when it's something negative for their favorite system. They did the same thing when Sony put Rumble back into the DS3. LOL!! First it was "Sixaxis is better and more innovative then rumble. We don't need rumble." Then when it came back they were, "Sony knew rumble was good so they added it back and kept Sixaxis as well."

That's a general fanboy trait though not limited to just cows. The only difference between a Cow and Lem is the name on the box they worship.

and the age of the members.
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#91 LustForSoul
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I know right??
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#92 blackace
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I've always scorned MS for making people pay for XBL despite it offering almost nother over PSN. I'm not too thrilled about having to pay to play online, but hey, at least I get free games out of it.

XVision84
XBL member are getting FREE games as well. They had given away FREE games in the past as well. The XBL service is still better then PSN and will still be better when the XBox One and PS4 launches. I don't think Sony has 300K dedicated servers for their 1st party and 3rd party game developers to use.
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#93 campzor
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Well I bought ps+ before the ps4 came out and needing it to play online. So I wont be paying to play online, only for the hundreds of dollars ill be saving.
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#94 bobberts7
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are not the xbl free games only till xb1 comes out?

anyway different point from what i can tell on ps4 you can buy ps+ to play online multiplayer but nothing else is blocked and are different services while xbl seems to be needed then have paid for services blocked if you dont have gold even if you have paid for it.

i dont play much multiplayer so i wont need it.

but on the point of where the complainers go i think its just not that big of a deal,(also some hypocrisy for now having to pay for it).

im also hapy that mmos are seperate they are only paid for if the company says so,and as such for most shooters id stick with planetside 2 ,blacklight and so on .

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#95 double_a73
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[QUOTE="crusadernm"]

I always thought they were complaining about the principle of it. But I guess not.

mojito1988

Principle on SW? WUT. Sony fans complained about it only to flame Xbox players. Now they do not care about playing. Why is that? I wonder..... Welcome to SW.

 

Believe you me, we do care about paying for online play.  It's unfair and greedy. That being said however, what else can we do? Move to a console that has a more expensive online fee?  Bulid a $1000 PC? Buy a Wii U?  Having to pay for online won't stop me from getting a PS4;  it'll just something that I hate about it.

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#96 OhSnapitz
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they were already ps plus members so they didnt care

CDWJUSTIN
^ This.. they were already undercover Damn dirty hypocrites. Now they just lost their leverage.
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#97 NathanDrakeSwag
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Sony makes it worth paying for. If Sony provided the same service as Microsoft (pay and get nothing back), I would have been devastated.

Davekeeh

This. PS+ is the best value in gaming.

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#98 NathanDrakeSwag
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

I've always scorned MS for making people pay for XBL despite it offering almost nother over PSN. I'm not too thrilled about having to pay to play online, but hey, at least I get free games out of it.

blackace

XBL member are getting FREE games as well. They had given away FREE games in the past as well. The XBL service is still better then PSN and will still be better when the XBox One and PS4 launches. I don't think Sony has 300K dedicated servers for their 1st party and 3rd party game developers to use.

XBL members get free games for a few months and only on 360. That ends in November. They are not even giving you $60 worth of free games :lol:

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#99 mems_1224
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Apparently you were too stupid to read or even understand the Xbox Live Terms of Use upon purchase of the service. F*cking kids these days. Didnt read because you couldn't understand it anyway.Murderstyle75
U mad I have Crackdown forever bro? Theres no need to be upset.
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#100 NathanDrakeSwag
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Apparently you were too stupid to read or even understand the Xbox Live Terms of Use upon purchase of the service. F*cking kids these days. Didnt read because you couldn't understand it anyway.mems_1224
U mad I have Crackdown forever bro? Theres no need to be upset.

A $3 game http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/crackdown/43435

Lems are so easily impressed.