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XBL is worth it because of how good it's online games have been since it's inception in 2002. I can't actually think of a online ps2, ps3 and probably launch ps4 game that has good online XxR3m1xInHDn3DXBL was never worth the money. X0 should be different though for the dedicated servers. And what is exactly wrong with PS3 online games? They don't play any different than 360 games.
Yeah it sucks, but the Xbox Live interface is better than PSN, so maybe the extra money should fix that. But if PS Plus keeps on delivering quality free games, then you won't see me complaining.Granny_SpankedWhen you stop paying for the service, your "Free" games go away. That would be considered a RENTAL, not free. I don't understand why Cows can't grasp this fact.
[QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"]Yeah it sucks, but the Xbox Live interface is better than PSN, so maybe the extra money should fix that. But if PS Plus keeps on delivering quality free games, then you won't see me complaining.nini200When you stop paying for the service, your "Free" games go away. That would be considered a RENTAL, not free. I don't understand why Cows can't grasp this fact. Then I guess Xbox multiplayer games are rentals as well even though you pay for them. And the instant game collection isn't the only thing that's paid for with Plus. The weekly deals, included themes/gamerpics, etc pretty much makes the service pay for itself.
[QUOTE="nini200"][QUOTE="Granny_Spanked"]Yeah it sucks, but the Xbox Live interface is better than PSN, so maybe the extra money should fix that. But if PS Plus keeps on delivering quality free games, then you won't see me complaining.Murderstyle75When you stop paying for the service, your "Free" games go away. That would be considered a RENTAL, not free. I don't understand why Cows can't grasp this fact. Then I guess Xbox multiplayer games are rentals as well even though you pay for them. And the instant game collection isn't the only thing that's paid for with Plus. The weekly deals, included themes/gamerpics, etc pretty much makes the service pay for itself.SONY is charging for online gaming on the Ps4, did you forget that, You will need PS+ to play online next gen so i suppose the PS4 multiplayer games are rentals as well right?
U mad I have Crackdown forever bro? Theres no need to be upset.[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Apparently you were too stupid to read or even understand the Xbox Live Terms of Use upon purchase of the service. F*cking kids these days. Didnt read because you couldn't understand it anyway.NathanDrakeSwag
A $3 game http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/crackdown/43435
Lems are so easily impressed.
mine isnt used. its brand new lol nathandrakeswag post lol[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"][QUOTE="mems_1224"] U mad I have Crackdown forever bro? Theres no need to be upset. mems_1224
A $3 game http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/crackdown/43435
Lems are so easily impressed.
mine isnt used. its brand new lol nathandrakeswag post loli was suprised how well crackdown still holds up in the visuals department, people can spout B-Bu-it's only 3 quid all day long, it's a solid game and it was free and i get to keep it whether i keep subscribing to Gold or not, Thats the Real definition of Free.[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]mine isnt used. its brand new lol nathandrakeswag post loli was suprised how well crackdown still holds up in the visuals department, people can spout B-Bu-it's only 3 quid all day long, it's a solid game and it was free and i get to keep it whether i keep subscribing to Gold or not, Thats the Real definition of Free. So Silver members get it too?A $3 game http://www.gamestop.com/xbox-360/games/crackdown/43435
Lems are so easily impressed.
delta3074
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i was suprised how well crackdown still holds up in the visuals department, people can spout B-Bu-it's only 3 quid all day long, it's a solid game and it was free and i get to keep it whether i keep subscribing to Gold or not, Thats the Real definition of Free.delta3074So Silver members get it too?i wouldn't know i am a gold subscriber but your point is moot because you need to pay to get the 'Free' games on the Ps3, i get to keep the game whether i Carry on subscribing to gold or Not, PS+ users 'Free' games dissapear when they end there Ps+ subscription, obvioulsy MS have a better understanding of the word 'Free' No, they are just both not free. You pay for something, it isn't free.
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i was suprised how well crackdown still holds up in the visuals department, people can spout B-Bu-it's only 3 quid all day long, it's a solid game and it was free and i get to keep it whether i keep subscribing to Gold or not, Thats the Real definition of Free.delta3074So Silver members get it too?i wouldn't know i am a gold subscriber but your point is moot because you need to pay to get the 'Free' games on the Ps3, i get to keep the game whether i Carry on subscribing to gold or Not, PS+ users 'Free' games dissapear when they end there Ps+ subscription, obvioulsy MS have a better understanding of the word 'Free' Paying for Gold = Not Free.
That's because console gamers are used to this. Cows certainly had no problem paying extra for multitap, memory cards, hard drives that only worked with one game, Ethernet adaptors, etc on the PS2. Why would they care about paying for online on the PS4? Or maybe they are just happy that Lems will finally STFU up with "Our service is better because we pay for it".I really thought people would react harsher to this. Before you had a choice if you didn't want to pay, now you don't which makes it worse.
This calmness is strange.
edidili
[QUOTE="edidili"]That's because console gamers are used to this. Cows certainly had no problem paying extra for multitap, memory cards, hard drives that only worked with one game, Ethernet adaptors, etc on the PS2. Why would they care about paying for online on the PS4? Or maybe they are just happy that Lems will finally STFU up with "Our service is better because we pay for it". XBL is still better because it costs more.I really thought people would react harsher to this. Before you had a choice if you didn't want to pay, now you don't which makes it worse.
This calmness is strange.
Murderstyle75
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i wouldn't know i am a gold subscriber but your point is moot because you need to pay to get the 'Free' games on the Ps3, i get to keep the game whether i Carry on subscribing to gold or Not, PS+ users 'Free' games dissapear when they end there Ps+ subscription, obvioulsy MS have a better understanding of the word 'Free'mems_1224Paying for Gold = Not Free. Free games were never advertised as being a part of a gold subscription before last month. MS is giving free games out because they care about their gamers. PS+ revolves around advertising rentals because they needed a way to compete with MS and their online service wasn't good enough so they had to throw something together. big difference. Microsoft doesnt advertise anything hardly and since you can't get them as Silver, they are not free. And a greedy corporation cares about their gamers? You are dumber than a Cow. Ballmer must have added extra sugar to your last batch of Kool Aid. If Microsoft cared about anybody, the last three years wouldn't have been HaloForzaGears and Silver members would be able to access Netflix and all the other apps that have nothing in the world to do with the service.
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]That's because console gamers are used to this.edidili
It's still strange that this is not a big deal though. The are a lot of people that do not want to pay a sub. This gen they went with PS3, easy choice. Where are these people going to go next gen?
Maddox had a pretty interesting video on his site where he said Sony was able to slip this in because their E3 presentation and policies happened to suck a bit less than Microsofts. While everybody was in an uproar, Sony slipped it in and nobody seemed to notice or care. I think people are also under the assumption that the instant game collection will continue to deliver which may or may not be true.[QUOTE="XxR3m1xInHDn3D"]XBL is worth it because of how good it's online games have been since it's inception in 2002. I can't actually think of a online ps2, ps3 and probably launch ps4 game that has good online Murderstyle75XBL was never worth the money. X0 should be different though for the dedicated servers. And what is exactly wrong with PS3 online games? They don't play any different than 360 games. Unreal Championship Halo 2 Crimson Skies Mech Assault Project Gotham 2 Forza Splinter Cell PT + CT Ghost Recon Rainbow Six Conker Live and Reloaded Phantasy Star Online Steel Battalion RTCW Phantom Dust Dead or Alive Ultimate vs Socom I never had a problem paying £3 a month to play online games that were superior to a majority of pc online games.
Maddox had a pretty interesting video on his site where he said Sony was able to slip this in because their E3 presentation and policies happened to suck a bit less than Microsofts.Murderstyle75
That and the free games they're giving right now. If you see the comments you'll see stuff like "I don't care, PSN+ gives me a lot of value in free games"
I mean is fine if Sony keeps on giving free games year after year but I somehow doubt this thing will go on. They're not a charity, they're paying to publishers for this. The only reason why they're doing it now is to give some value to PSN+ since in terms of services it has been a bit behind Live this gen, create good publicity to gain the trust of consumers for the new console and slip a sub for MP without getting much flak for it.
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="XxR3m1xInHDn3D"]XBL is worth it because of how good it's online games have been since it's inception in 2002. I can't actually think of a online ps2, ps3 and probably launch ps4 game that has good online XxR3m1xInHDn3DXBL was never worth the money. X0 should be different though for the dedicated servers. And what is exactly wrong with PS3 online games? They don't play any different than 360 games. Unreal Championship Halo 2 Crimson Skies Mech Assault Project Gotham 2 Forza Splinter Cell PT + CT Ghost Recon Rainbow Six Conker Live and Reloaded Phantasy Star Online Steel Battalion RTCW Phantom Dust Dead or Alive Ultimate vs Socom I never had a problem paying £3 a month to play online games that were superior to a majority of pc online games. All played on P2P servers and many third party developed. Windows users get Xbox Live as well. Guess what. They don't have to pay for it. M$ tried to charge and the gamers did nothing but laugh. And funny how you have PSO on that list. Not only did you need Xbox Live Gold but you also had to pay a monthly hunters license fee.
Yeah it sucks, but the Xbox Live interface is better than PSN, so maybe the extra money should fix that. But if PS Plus keeps on delivering quality free games, then you won't see me complaining.Granny_SpankedIf I have to pay Sony money every year or I can't access the "free" games, they're not free.
[QUOTE="edidili"]That's because console gamers are used to this. Cows certainly had no problem paying extra for multitap, memory cards, hard drives that only worked with one game, Ethernet adaptors, etc on the PS2. Why would they care about paying for online on the PS4? Or maybe they are just happy that Lems will finally STFU up with "Our service is better because we pay for it". well to be fair, you are speaking of hardware for a system that was developed before online play on consoles was really a thing, (same with harddrives) and 2 players for playstation was just a thing from the gen before it as well. Now you've got another scenario where the times of changed and people have to get used to it. This time, it's for the worse. Console gamers don't really have a way to stick it to the console makers like PC gamers did with GFWL. have online buy subscribing or don't. Nobody is happy, but it does make sense since MS showed everyone that you can charge for console online and get away with it. That and all the money Sony lost letting millions use their services for free for an entire gen pretty much makes it not THAT big of a surprise.I really thought people would react harsher to this. Before you had a choice if you didn't want to pay, now you don't which makes it worse.
This calmness is strange.
Murderstyle75
Apparently you were too stupid to read or even understand the Xbox Live Terms of Use upon purchase of the service. F*cking kids these days. Didnt read because you couldn't understand it anyway.Murderstyle75
Oh give over :lol: You're a fu*king broken record when it comes to MS.
Technically you don't own the games on disc either. Big deal.
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Apparently you were too stupid to read or even understand the Xbox Live Terms of Use upon purchase of the service. F*cking kids these days. Didnt read because you couldn't understand it anyway.RR360DD
Oh give over :lol: You're a fu*king broken record when it comes to MS.
Technically you don't own the games on disc either. Big deal.
:cool:
Since I can sell it, I own it. Now go lay down next to your dish, fanboy.[QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"]Apparently you were too stupid to read or even understand the Xbox Live Terms of Use upon purchase of the service. F*cking kids these days. Didnt read because you couldn't understand it anyway.Murderstyle75
Oh give over :lol: You're a fu*king broken record when it comes to MS.
Technically you don't own the games on disc either. Big deal.
:cool:
Since I can sell it, I own it. Now go lay down next to your dish, fanboy.But you don't
#dealwithit
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[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i wouldn't know i am a gold subscriber but your point is moot because you need to pay to get the 'Free' games on the Ps3, i get to keep the game whether i Carry on subscribing to gold or Not, PS+ users 'Free' games dissapear when they end there Ps+ subscription, obvioulsy MS have a better understanding of the word 'Free'JakandsigzPaying for Gold = Not Free. It is when the game is not tied to the subcription like PS+. From what I heard, the deal applies to silver members of at least 1 or 2 years. Nope. My sons account is currently silver and is four years old. Its actually been gold longer than its been silver too. Just tried to unlock Crackdown after reading your post and it says 14.99. The advertisment on his home page says "GO GOLD for FREE GAMES & MORE.
Oh we are still here ^^ Currently waiting to see exactly HOW the paid subscriptions are this upcomming gen, but given that I am mainly a PC gamer, it will likely not go down well. They REALLY have to offer more then just a carrot for me to accept it.
Cows will be happier than pigs in shit for that carrot. I know Lems are.Oh we are still here ^^ Currently waiting to see exactly HOW the paid subscriptions are this upcomming gen, but given that I am mainly a PC gamer, it will likely not go down well. They REALLY have to offer more then just a carrot for me to accept it.
Maddie_Larkin
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