Where is the Wiimote FPS Revolution?

MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Haziqonfire

What I did see was a certain reviewer saying the controls in certain game worked so well and so accurately that it made the game too easy.

I then proceeded to find a different reviewer saying a different game trumped the previously mentioned game's controls and were better and more comfortable than anything a traditional controller could dish out.

So it's a start...

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Demetri_OS

What the hell does that have to do with it :|

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
tbone29

What the hell does that have to do with it :|

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Demetri_OS

Sales make the FPS controls better? :?

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
tbone29

What the hell does that have to do with it :|

So he can win by changing the rules :roll:

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Kaze_no_Mirai

Sales make the FPS controls better? :?

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
tbone29

What the hell does that have to do with it :|

:lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Demetri_OS

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
legend26

[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Demetri_OS

Metroid did a very good job in representing the controls. It set the pinnacle of how it should control and feel, but keep in mind it also wasn't a FPS game with a control scheme that would adapt to all FPSes, like Halo does for console FPS. In fact MoH2: Heroes has a more Wii console FPS control scheme setup and even has the best tweaking options. yoshi_64

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Demetri_OS

[QUOTE="tbone29"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Demetri_OS

What the hell does that have to do with it :|

Mario Party sold millions. Doing just fine without the FUN.

What's your point TC? The Wii has created revolutionary FPS controls - MOH and MP3 prove that fully.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
coolviper2003

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="tbone29"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Krazy_duck

What the hell does that have to do with it :|

Mario Party sold millions. Doing just fine without the FUN.

What's your point TC? The Wii has created revolutionary FPS controls - MOH and MP3 prove that fully.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Haziqonfire

I have a Wii and MP3,.. just got the ice missles. It's a good way to play. But, I don't see it performing industry wide changes to how FPS are played.Demetri_OS

Well considering the only thing that Wii-mote is actually changing is how you aim, it shouldn't be drasticly different then using a standard control. I mean you still use an analog stick to move around, you still press buttons to jump and shoot. It's just you now have pinpoint accuracy aiming. If you didn't think the aiming was easy in that game then I really don't know what to tell you.....

The controls itself are a revolution... Wii Sports, Metroid Prime 3, and Wii Fit are revolutionizing gaming whether you like it or not.TDLlama

But, they aren't selling as much as Halo 3. The sales arguement is coming from the Sheep. Now that it's used against you, suddenly it does not apply. Why is that?Demetri_OS

Hmm... probably because you asked about the Wiimote's potential for superior FPS control, and now you're spinning it to bring in sales.

Besides, if you see sheep so negatively, why would you stoop to their level? :?

Wii doesn't reall bring revolution to any kind of gaming (unless you consider WiiFit to be gaming). If you're looking for lots of innovations Wii doesn't really deliver on it's promisesAdrianWerner

Let's see another console that can play games like Wario-Ware: Smooth Moves, Trauma Center: Second Opinion. Actually uses tilt in a game like Mercury Madness, or Super Monkey Ball. Plays traditional games like Super Mario: Galaxy, or The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Has FPS controls as precise and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, MOH: H2? And do it all with the same device.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]I have a Wii and MP3,.. just got the ice missles. It's a good way to play. But, I don't see it performing industry wide changes to how FPS are played.coolviper2003

Well considering the only thing that Wii-mote is actually changing is how you aim, it shouldn't be drasticly different then using a standard control. I mean you still use an analog stick to move around, you still press buttons to jump and shoot. It's just you now have pinpoint accuracy aiming. If you didn't think the aiming was easy in that game then I really don't know what to tell you.....

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Demetri_OS

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]
But, they aren't selling as much as Halo 3. The sales arguement is coming from the Sheep. Now that it's used against you, suddenly it does not apply. Why is that?tbone29

Hmm... probably because you asked about the Wiimote's potential for superior FPS control, and now you're spinning it to bring in sales.

Besides, if you see sheep so negatively, why would you stoop to their level? :?

[QUOTE="coolviper2003"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]I have a Wii and MP3,.. just got the ice missles. It's a good way to play. But, I don't see it performing industry wide changes to how FPS are played.Demetri_OS

Well considering the only thing that Wii-mote is actually changing is how you aim, it shouldn't be drasticly different then using a standard control. I mean you still use an analog stick to move around, you still press buttons to jump and shoot. It's just you now have pinpoint accuracy aiming. If you didn't think the aiming was easy in that game then I really don't know what to tell you.....

9.5 > 8.5

Halo wins out for several different reasons

NONE of which are controls.

[QUOTE="coolviper2003"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]I have a Wii and MP3,.. just got the ice missles. It's a good way to play. But, I don't see it performing industry wide changes to how FPS are played.Demetri_OS

Well considering the only thing that Wii-mote is actually changing is how you aim, it shouldn't be drasticly different then using a standard control. I mean you still use an analog stick to move around, you still press buttons to jump and shoot. It's just you now have pinpoint accuracy aiming. If you didn't think the aiming was easy in that game then I really don't know what to tell you.....

Wii mote > Dual analog.

That is how.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Wii doesn't reall bring revolution to any kind of gaming (unless you consider WiiFit to be gaming). If you're looking for lots of innovations Wii doesn't really deliver on it's promisesTylendal

Let's see another console that can play games like Wario-Ware: Smooth Moves, Trauma Center: Second Opinion. Actually uses tilt in a game like Mercury Madness, or Super Monkey Ball. Plays traditional games like Super Mario: Galaxy, or The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Has FPS controls as precise and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, MOH: H2? And do it all with the same device.

I'm a PCgamer. Aside from possibly WarioWare all Wii does I've already seen in other games. From my perspective it's just new control method in old games.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
coolviper2003

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Wii doesn't reall bring revolution to any kind of gaming (unless you consider WiiFit to be gaming). If you're looking for lots of innovations Wii doesn't really deliver on it's promisesTylendal

Let's see another console that can play games like Wario-Ware: Smooth Moves, Trauma Center: Second Opinion. Actually uses tilt in a game like Mercury Madness, or Super Monkey Ball. Plays traditional games like Super Mario: Galaxy, or The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Has FPS controls as precise and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, MOH: H2? And do it all with the same device.

Metriod 3 was suppose to herald in a new era of how FPS games would be played. Is it still happening? Because I see no one screaming on how great Metriod 3's Wiimote setup is. Nor do I see developers saying; "Yeah! I want MY FPS to play just like that!!!"Demetri_OS

What does this post have to do with sales? Nothing. If you want to talk sales, why don't you start a topic about sales instead of changing the subject after being proven wrong within 2 replies.

Wii mote > Dual analog.

That is how.

SER69

It's their point under question. And we get a contradition; Sales matter when the Wii VS a traditional console. Sales DO NOT matter when Metriod 3 VS a traditional FPS. Yet, Metriod 3 is a revolution. Meaning, BETTER than the traditional FPS - yet, its not selling better than Halo 3.Demetri_OS

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="tbone29"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Krazy_duck

What the hell does that have to do with it :|

Mario Party sold millions. Doing just fine without the FUN.

What's your point TC? The Wii has created revolutionary FPS controls - MOH and MP3 prove that fully.

Every Mario Party game is FUN.

It's just that it's the same fun everytime.

[QUOTE="tbone29"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]
But, they aren't selling as much as Halo 3. The sales arguement is coming from the Sheep. Now that it's used against you, suddenly it does not apply. Why is that?Demetri_OS

Hmm... probably because you asked about the Wiimote's potential for superior FPS control, and now you're spinning it to bring in sales.

Besides, if you see sheep so negatively, why would you stoop to their level? :?

1. FPS selling more on the Wii was NEVER a point from sheep. The 360 is king of console FPS's.
2. Metroid Prime 3 isn't nearly as popular as Halo and they are completely different. Metroid Prime 3 isn't a FPS, so it really shouldn't apply to your arguement.
3. That leaves MOH:H2 which was said to control better than Halo 3.
4. Halo 3 was more anticipated, popular, and was marketed farther to consumers. It's way more appealing to the casuals/masses
5. MOH:H2 is NOT a good game it just happens to control superbly (Or so IGN tells us).

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]Metriod 3 was suppose to herald in a new era of how FPS games would be played. Is it still happening? Because I see no one screaming on how great Metriod 3's Wiimote setup is. Nor do I see developers saying; "Yeah! I want MY FPS to play just like that!!!"goblaa

What does this post have to do with sales? Nothing. If you want to talk sales, why don't you start a topic about sales instead of changing the subject after being proven wrong within 2 replies.

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]It's their point under question. And we get a contradition; Sales matter when the Wii VS a traditional console. Sales DO NOT matter when Metriod 3 VS a traditional FPS. Yet, Metriod 3 is a revolution. Meaning, BETTER than the traditional FPS - yet, its not selling better than Halo 3.Hoffgod

That's funny because I do see people starting to get fed up with Dual analog (something I think is long overdue but whatever).

Also, how long were traditional controllers (or even dual analog) out before somebody really nailed FPS controls? Wii has been out for less than a year and now they've done it with MP3 and even more so with MoH: H2. 08 and 09 FPS games on Wii will make 360/PS3 games feel archaic in design.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Demetri_OS

Again - NO. Sheep have made it very clear that sales matter. So, why isn't Metriod 3 selling better than Halo 3? Since the mechanics are better? Metriod as an IP has been around since the 80s. Halo is new. Everyone knows Metriod. And this new way of playing was to revolutionize FPS. Yet, I don't see it selling better than traditional FPS. Just like the Wii is selling better than traditional console systems, why isn't Metriod 3 selling better than traditional FPS?

You must have not been in system wars long. Sheep made it clear that sales matters? What about cows last gen? Like it or not, sales and games both matter when it comes to a consoles success.

As for Metroid prime 3 selling better than Halo 3, that would never have happened. Metroid didnt sell as well becasue of many reasons.
- It didnt launch globally like Halo 3 did, only launched in some regions.
- Doesnt have the media success that is "Halo".
- Halo 3 was marketed to DEATH, and it worked. Without the marketing H3 would not has sold as much as it has today.
- Metroid prime never have a good track record when it comes to sales, unlike the halo series.
- Halo has more appeal to people than MP does. Halo can appeal to "Hardcores" and "Casuals" -- just like GTA, Mario, Etc -- MP caters to the hardcore Metroid Fan (like myself) and Nintendo fans, who enjoy anything good from nintendo.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="Demetri_OS"]

Wii doesn't reall bring revolution to any kind of gaming (unless you consider WiiFit to be gaming). If you're looking for lots of innovations Wii doesn't really deliver on it's promisesDemetri_OS

Let's see another console that can play games like Wario-Ware: Smooth Moves, Trauma Center: Second Opinion. Actually uses tilt in a game like Mercury Madness, or Super Monkey Ball. Plays traditional games like Super Mario: Galaxy, or The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Has FPS controls as precise and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, MOH: H2? And do it all with the same device.

EVERYONE has answered why Metroid 3 isn't selling better than Halo 3. What YOU have not done is give us a reason why CONTROLS ALONE should determine sales?

[QUOTE="SER69"]

Wii mote > Dual analog.

That is how.

Demetri_OS

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]

[QUOTE="Demetri_OS"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]MOH:H2 -- Read the IGN Review. "Better controls than MP3"

"controls that spank anything that uses dual analog". They even said that the controls are the best they've seen on a home console, pc is a different story however.
Haziqonfire

Again - NO. Sheep have made it very clear that sales matter. So, why isn't Metriod 3 selling better than Halo 3? Since the mechanics are better? Metriod as an IP has been around since the 80s. Halo is new. Everyone knows Metriod. And this new way of playing was to revolutionize FPS. Yet, I don't see it selling better than traditional FPS. Just like the Wii is selling better than traditional console systems, why isn't Metriod 3 selling better than traditional FPS?

You must have not been in system wars long. Sheep made it clear that sales matters? What about cows last gen? Like it or not, sales and games both matter when it comes to a consoles success.

As for Metroid prime 3 selling better than Halo 3, that would never have happened. Metroid didnt sell as well becasue of many reasons.
- It didnt launch globally like Halo 3 did, only launched in some regions.
- Doesnt have the media success that is "Halo".
- Halo 3 was marketed to DEATH, and it worked. Without the marketing H3 would not has sold as much as it has today.
- Metroid prime never have a good track record when it comes to sales, unlike the halo series.
- Halo has more appeal to people than MP does. Halo can appeal to "Hardcores" and "Casuals" -- just like GTA, Mario, Etc -- MP caters to the hardcore Metroid Fan (like myself) and Nintendo fans, who enjoy anything good from nintendo.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Wii doesn't reall bring revolution to any kind of gaming (unless you consider WiiFit to be gaming). If you're looking for lots of innovations Wii doesn't really deliver on it's promisesAdrianWerner

Let's see another console that can play games like Wario-Ware: Smooth Moves, Trauma Center: Second Opinion. Actually uses tilt in a game like Mercury Madness, or Super Monkey Ball. Plays traditional games like Super Mario: Galaxy, or The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. Has FPS controls as precise and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, MOH: H2? And do it all with the same device.

I'm a PCgamer. Aside from possibly WarioWare all Wii does I've already seen in other games. From my perspective it's just new control method in old games.

I'm was a pc only gamer for 10 years and consoles never interested me much until the wii. Most games for the wii definitely can't be played on other consoles. it's becuase of the wii i got into console gaming. Wii mote revolutionize the console FPS controls but seeing some ignorant people mentioning the sales of Halo 3, the only great FPS games for the wii are MP: 3 and MoH:H2. Does metroid appeal to gamers who like halo? NO. Does MoH:H2 appeal to gamers who like CoD4? No. There are only two games and these games aren't popular. nintendo does bad marketing in my perspective like not letting the press play bwii single player until it's released. whereas halo 3 i don't need to talk about it. think before you post stupid statements.