@silversix_: their AAA exclusive is front loaded this year. Persona 5,nioh, horizon, uncharted expansion etc almost all at the first half of 2017. Here hoping an amazing E3 announcement to continue the momentum on the 2nd half.
@cainetao11: I guess my point flew over your head, You mention one IP and believe MS is all of a sudden taking more risks?(remedy is not even a first party dev anyway)
Taking risks= letting their first party devs do what they want. Turn 10 will always be forza, the coalition will always be gears now(even cancelling their new IP), 343 will always be Halo. Phantom Dust may not have been playable, but MS did something similar scummy, in showcasing a prerendered trailer that didn't even use assets of the actual game at all, the game wasn't even months in development. Its still not being honest about their upcoming lineup, so my overall point still stands.
That is not what taking a risk means. Paying for develop on a new IP from a 3rd party developer is the very definition of a risk. As you can see it does not always pay off.
Well said, that's kind of why it is called a "RISK". LOL
And lets not start in on "scummy, pre rendered" stuff, Killzone 2, *cough, cough.
@silversix_: their AAA exclusive is front loaded this year. Persona 5,nioh, horizon, uncharted expansion etc almost all at the first half of 2017. Here hoping an amazing E3 announcement to continue the momentum on the 2nd half.
Real question, does Sony have anything to do with Persona 5? Is it another exclusive by omission?
Lems still thinking Scorpio will be out this year...
That's pretty much guaranteed because MS already stated it would launch in 2017 and in interviews Phil stated that Scorpio HW is coming along nicely and ahead of schedule.
When do you think it will launch?
Only way MS postpones it to 2018 is if they want to get to 8-10 TF's. In 2018 there will be a lot more 4K TV's in homes too so that almost makes sense.
@spitfire-six: so creating new Ips from the scratch instead of keeping it safe and developing countless Halo/Gears sequels is not taking risks? What???
@spitfire-six: so creating new Ips from the scratch instead of keeping it safe and developing countless Halo/Gears sequels is not taking risks? What???
Are you drunk ? The way you talk you'd think they have not invested in new IP this generation they have invested in new first party IP and new IP they dont even own. I know this is a place where everyone plays a more extreme character but you cant just create you own reality.
@spitfire-six: name those new Ip from turn 10, the coalition, 343i etc. Then we can have a valid discussion. If you rely on buzzwords like "Are you drunk", I won't even bother debating with you
The only first party dev known to create a new IP for them is Rare currently
@spitfire-six: name those new Ip from turn 10, the coalition, 343i etc. Then we can have a valid discussion. If you rely on buzzwords like "Are you drunk", I won't even bother debating with you
The only first party dev known to create a new IP for them is Rare currently
So you are limiting the idea of a risk to first party development. Well that makes no sense. Then you are wanting new IP from studios purposely built to manage a single IP. That also makes no sense. What you did here is create some rules that no one knows about except you and these rules you are using to determine risk dont exist anywhere but in your head. Investing money in a business you dont control for +3 years is the very definition of a risk. Just walk away from this, you dont have a point to make. Drop your self made definition of risk.
@spitfire-six: name those new Ip from turn 10, the coalition, 343i etc. Then we can have a valid discussion. If you rely on buzzwords like "Are you drunk", I won't even bother debating with you
The only first party dev known to create a new IP for them is Rare currently
So you are limiting the idea of a risk to first party development. Well that makes no sense. Then you are wanting new IP from studios purposely built to manage a single IP. That also makes no sense. What you did here is create some rules that no one knows about except you and these rules you are using to determine risk dont exist anywhere but in your head. Investing money in a business you dont control for +3 years is the very definition of a risk. Just walk away from this, you dont have a point to make. Drop your self made definition of risk.
When I talk about sony being harsh to devs regarding first party, I obviously mean their own devs too or not? Sony doesnt have control over third parties like Insomniac, From Software etc.
@trollhunter2: again, your definition of taking a risk is not a real definition of taking a risk. Therefore no one will follow this idea because that is not how it works anywhere but in this thread with you reaching for some abstract point. For MSFT to take a risk in your mind the studio leads tasked with developing a IP would have to decide they don't want to do that anymore and they want to do something new. that is not what taking a risk on developing new IPs is. XBOX owns Quantum Break, XBOX owns Recore, XBOX Owns Scale Bound. IP does not mean a single game, and it does not mean it has to be developed by your first party devs. That is how MSFT studios is structured.
Just in the first 4 months this year Sony has Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Persona 5, Nioh, Nier Automata, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 Remix, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Yakuza 0.
@spitfire-six: "For MSFT to take a risk in your mind the studio leads tasked with developing a IP would have to decide they don't want to do that anymore and they want to do something new." Dude that is the definition of taking risks, not sure if you're trolling or not now. Leaving established IP and creating new ones from the scratch is the prime example of devs taking risk. You're the first person to tell me that moving on from high profil exclusives that are warranted to sell(halo, gears)and coming up with a new unproven IP is not taking a risk. I dunno anymore, but believe what you want, cause this discussion is moving to ridiculous levels. Take risks is also synonym for trying out something new, even though it might not be as succesful as the established IP. Even Phil Spencer uses the definition taking risks in relation to create new IPs http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1332851&page=1 but whatever I guess
For 2017 alone I am looking forward to many Xbox One exclusives including:
Ashen
Halo Wars 2
Cuphead
State of Decay 2
Below
Students of the Round 2
Cities Skylines
Sea of Thieves
Crackdown 3
Gigantic
Forza Motorsport 7
Raiden V
Astroneer
Phantom Dust
Tacoma
Xbox has been doing awesome as has all of their big first and second party franchises. Great sales and great games. Looks to be an amazing 2017 with the best games and the worlds most powerful console.
Ashen has no release date.
Below is coming to PS4
Students of the Rounds 2 has no release date
Crackdown 3 is having struggles, it's going to be a 2018 release date
Forza Motorsport 7 hasn't even been officially revealed
Raiden V is releasing in japan, it's probably never coming to the west
Astroneer is coming to ps4 later, the only reason it's coming to xbox one and pc before it is because those 2 allow early access games so you'll be getting an imcomplate game that might never amount to anything good while ps4 will get it after you beta test for us.
Phantom Dust is cancelled
Tacoma is coming to ps4, it's timed exclusivity
So Halo Wars 2, State of Decay 2, Cities Skylines (Probably will come to ps4 eventually), and Sea of Thieves are the only even console exclusives you're getting all year unless you import a japanese game.
PS4 meanwhile has more true exclusives in the first 4 months of 2017 than xbox one has even console exclusives the entire fucking year.
weeaboo nonsense and remakes of old ass weeaboo nonsense, plus a sprinkling of indy games and a couple of maybe titles =/= a good looking year for me.
Besides Ace combat 7, there is nothing that is a must have in that lot.
That awkward moment when you link a good list of games that shits on xbox one when you're trying to fanboy and defend xbox one, pathetic and hilarious.
Just in the first 4 months this year Sony has Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Persona 5, Nioh, Nier Automata, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 Remix, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Yakuza 0.
Microsoft has Halo Wars 2...
Don't really care for Gravity Rush, Persona, Kingdom Hearts etc seems like the typical JRPG that only appeals to certain fanbases (good for them but meh).
Horizon is intriguing but it has the potential to flop.
I am more high on Nioh than Nier Automata but both games aren't blockbuster in a way that Red Dead Redemption 2 would be.
Out of all the games listed there, I'm most excited about Halo Wars 2, Horizon and Yakuza 0.
Just in the first 4 months this year Sony has Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Persona 5, Nioh, Nier Automata, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 Remix, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Yakuza 0.
weeaboo nonsense and remakes of old ass weeaboo nonsense, plus a sprinkling of indy games and a couple of maybe titles =/= a good looking year for me.
Besides Ace combat 7, there is nothing that is a must have in that lot.
That awkward moment when you link a good list of games that shits on xbox one when you're trying to fanboy and defend xbox one, pathetic and hilarious.
It's called selfrekting. It's knew phenomenon that lemmings and X1 fakeboys do to themselves alone in their basements.
With the recently released FH3 and Gears 4 and very soon the GOAT, Sea of Thieves plus Halo Wars 2 and State of Decay 2, Ohh my goodness that's gaming at it's finest right there. . :D
Just in the first 4 months this year Sony has Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Persona 5, Nioh, Nier Automata, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 Remix, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Yakuza 0.
Microsoft has Halo Wars 2...
REKT this entire thread with facts.
Yep, good job guys, that´s how you own lems... with facts. They can´t handle them.
Just in the first 4 months I will purchase Horizon, I just hope it's better that NO Mans Flop! The rest of the games are indeed crappy games, and that's a fact!
I will also purchase Halo Wars 2 that I already know will be good!
@putaspongeon: that awkward moment where you realise you were butthurted by someones opinion and make yourself look a boob.
guess what genius ? thats my opinion on the games in that list. I am sure they appeal to weeaboos and people who didnt play them the first time around, but the only ones that interest me there are ace combat and horizon....
On the xbox there is sea of thieves, cuphead and halo wars 2 that interest me. So like i said they are about even imo.
Dont let the door hit you in the ass on your way out
Your opinion is irrelevant considering it's just fanboy rubbish.
That's not your opinion, that's you not knowing what 90% of those games are but being so deep in microsoft's asshole that you insult them regardless.
For example, yakuza is a better game series than anything on xbox across the board no matter what year we're talking about.
Those games interest you on xbox because they are on xbox. They aren't even, you're just ignorant or a cum stained fanboy.
See, I'm sorry that logic hurts you, however maybe you should get off the internet, your world view is at risk here, it's only a matter of time if you stay on the internet before you realize that the xbox one is a paperweight that has only 3rd party games and some half assed console exclusives.
Just in the first 4 months this year Sony has Gravity Rush 2, Horizon, Persona 5, Nioh, Nier Automata, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 Remix, Kingdom Hearts 2.8, Yakuza 0.
And the only one I (and many others probably) have any interest in is Horizon... even then, it's not that much interest. So each to their own...
Sony is guilty of similar things. But it is concerning how little there is on the near future for Xbox. And a I agree that MS should give more freedom to its developers. It's a terrible strategy that started on the X360's last years, with bad results, and for some weird reason they insist on.
Don't know how MS want's to build the Xbox brand on PC and console without having a strong line up.
IDK I'd say the near future is good for both
Sony has Horizon which looks good and possibly Nier (still haven't played the demo lol) and Possibly God of War (if they didn't **** it up too much) coming this year
MS has the annual Forza (not my cup of tea but well liked) Crackdown and Sea of Theives
Plus I'm sure both will have other games come out we aren't aware of. and MS has a lot of good not hyped up games like gigantic which hit early access and is actually really good. I like it better then smite personally but it's windows 10/XB1 only. I think MS funded it or something but outside of a few balance tweaks needed it's a really good game.
Either way 2017 is the year of Mass Effect so it'll be a good year in gaming for me regardless. But it's the 1st year that sony has some good looking exclusives IMO this gen. If i had to split my time played so far it would be about 50% MS exclusives, 49% multiplat, 1% sony exclsuives
@putaspongeon: haha wow. That is about the biggest butthurt comment i have ever read on this website. Equal amounts ignorant and pathetic.
I know what those games are and i know they dont appeal to me. You are incredibly angry about my opinion.
I also find it especially pathetic when someone tries to tell me that my opinion doesnt count, because in their opinion "i am not gamer enough".
Please do us all a favour and keep your cretinous thoughts to yourself next time.
"Wah wah wah, I'm upset with your contrasting opinion so I'll call you butthurt instead to try to discredit you"
You're a fucking moron.
Apparently you aren't a gamer, you're a fanboy.
haha, that is EXACTLY what you have done to me TWICE in this thread. It was YOU that was upset by MY opinion and tried to tell me that it didn't count. After this, you then have the cheek to call me a moron?
So there you are again with the insults, although less pathetic and not as vile as they were last time. Still, i would bet that the bile must burn your throat.
You kiss your mother with that mouth?
Why does it annoy you that i don't like what you like?
So now i am not a gamer? what do you want me to do tell you how many platinums i've got or how high my gamerscore is? are you 10 years old or something?
"putaspongeon"? More like "spongebob"
Good god, i do hope you feel better after your meltdown. put a sponge on your skin to cool down.
Wow, that username thing was just a fucking joke, you embarrassed yourself there.
But yeah, it's also kind of ironic since I think spongebob is more popular with my age group (20's) than anything, but nah, never was huge into spongebob.
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