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Valve, reasons are not needed. The scores across the board is nothing except steller, but it is the STEAM platform that takes the cake, despite being as young as it is, it has so much sucess that it is near mind boggeling. Lets indie devs get a try at gaming, without the huge barriars both MS and Sony tends to put up, and it has a basic guideline that all games have to work.
Not to forget thier steller support ^^
[QUOTE="tenaka2"]
Nintendo, in one generation they have managed to change the gaming direction of both Microsoft and Sony, console gaming is all family friendly titles and motion control.
ChubbyGuy40
well...the TC did say best and the Motion Control/App-style games aren't what majority would consider "the best," if even good.
yes but with the 3 consoles dev all going for the wii family market the PC will become more attractive to devs looking to make more adult oriented titles.
- Microsoft = A big push towards online gaming
- Sony = Blu-Ray
- Nintendo = Motion controls
Those are the biggest "contributions" I saw out of each of the big 3 this generation. However none of those really stick out to me, so I'm going with EA due to their new orignal series... MADDEN!!
Dr_Snood
Yeah, I would tend to disagree with #1. Online gaming has been around for quite a long time and I don't really feel MS did anything special this gen.
MS by far delivering a totally cohesive, fully integrated on-line gaming service also featuring the most impressive line up with XBLA and the indy's plus the best of the best dual analog trigger / sticks controller on the planet and at the top of the game with franchises like Halos, Gears & Forzas. :D Kinect, eh, impressive sales but the jury still out on it's usefulness for core gaming but teh kiddies are lovin it. :P
Wow the greatest comeback ever you sure show me i learn my lesson. Why even reply to say that.tormentos
You're right, comebacks are supposed to be clustered together random words and completely unrelated facts and opinions so that it turns off the guy debating you and makes it look like you won. :?
[QUOTE="tormentos"]Wow the greatest comeback ever you sure show me i learn my lesson. Why even reply to say that.waltefmoney
You're right, comebacks are supposed to be clustered together random words and completely unrelated facts and opinions so that it turns off the guy debating you and makes it look like you won. :?
Maybe next time you can actually argue my points instead of just saying XBLA>. It make you look like you have not argument what so ever,you quote a person which make an argument,to quote him saying 3 words,then quote him again to attack him personally,because he actually make fun of your pathetic comeback.lmao you really want someone to pay attention to you huh...this is pretty much the same thing you said a few posts ago :lol: if you are gonna argue against the 360 at least be original or argue something that mattersmems_1224So anything of what i say doesn't matter on a thread about who has best contributed to the generation. Maybe you which to actually argue my point one by one,rather than attack me,i post something similar because for the lack of response i see i make a good point,look how the best the poster that quote me could do was to say ""XBLA> Sorry Tormentos"". Yeah that good my points were.
Maybe next time you can actually argue my points instead of just saying XBLA>. It make you look like you have not argument what so ever,you quote a person which make an argument,to quote him saying 3 words,then quote him again to attack him personally,because he actually make fun of your pathetic comeback.tormentos
It might sound strange to you, but it's possible to counter someone's argument by using 2-3 words while your post is completely readable without any headaches :o. Shocking, I know. I also love how you try to counter my counter by just saying "your counter is bad" and then accusing me of having no argument.
Nvidia.
The 580gtx made it possible to max out crysis and metro 2033 giving gamers the opportunity to experience the best graphics made till date.
It might sound strange to you, but it's possible to counter someone's argument by using 2-3 words while your post is completely readable without any headaches :o. Shocking, I know. I also love how you try to counter my counter by just saying "your counter is bad" and then accusing me of having no argument.waltefmoneyWhy reply at all.? You have no points what so ever to counter those points i make,so you resort to say XBLA > pretty easy to see. I don't blame you those are facts not my opinion,actually you know what MS did good job with XBL integration and all,it just kills it that they charge for it,and they did other moves which actually were in favor of hem self and not the consumer at all.
lol, can you even imagine what this gen would have been like without ms?
we'd be all hyped up for this falls release of lair 3, haze 3, genji 4 and a patch that finishes gt5.
Why reply at all.? You have no points what so ever to counter those points i make,so you resort to say XBLA > pretty easy to see. I don't blame you those are facts not my opinion,actually you know what MS did good job with XBL integration and all,it just kills it that they charge for it,and they did other moves which actually were in favor of hem self and not the consumer at all.tormentos
Yes, I posted my opinion that XBLA outweighs everything bad that they've done/may have done. If you don't agree, simply say so. Don't post something like "buh.. your argument is bad." and then attack me for making posts with no value.
[QUOTE="mems_1224"] lmao you really want someone to pay attention to you huh...this is pretty much the same thing you said a few posts ago :lol: if you are gonna argue against the 360 at least be original or argue something that matterstormentosSo anything of what i say doesn't matter on a thread about who has best contributed to the generation. Maybe you which to actually argue my point one by one,rather than attack me,i post something similar because for the lack of response i see i make a good point,look how the best the poster that quote me could do was to say ""XBLA> Sorry Tormentos"". Yeah that good my points were. waa waaa waaa xbl costs money. who cares? you dont want to use the service dont. RROD, doesn't matter. PS2s last gen were built a lot worse and broke a lot too, no one holds that against sony over priced peripherals? like what? you didnt provide any examples why would they change the price when its already cheaper than ps3??? :| again, who cares? most dlc is a rip off anyways ads? who cares? they aren't even noticeable and take less than a second to skip all your arguments dont matter, you're just grasping for straws. happy now? :|
[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]It might sound strange to you, but it's possible to counter someone's argument by using 2-3 words while your post is completely readable without any headaches :o. Shocking, I know. I also love how you try to counter my counter by just saying "your counter is bad" and then accusing me of having no argument.tormentosWhy reply at all.? You have no points what so ever to counter those points i make,so you resort to say XBLA > pretty easy to see. I don't blame you those are facts not my opinion,actually you know what MS did good job with XBL integration and all,it just kills it that they charge for it,and they did other moves which actually were in favor of hem self and not the consumer at all.I'm just sorta gauging all this and I must ask, would I be wrong If I thought you may sound like a good candidate for a occupy Redmond protest participant ? Ya know, where MS is headquartered ? :twisted:
OT, MS :P
Apparently people here think that charging for online is a good contribution :P kuraimen
Does that bother you? :)
Yeah like the generation of the PS1 where MS wasn't here,oh wait what about the PS2 one,where the PS2 by far had the best games. If MS wasn't here just like Sega is not any more,sony would keep doing great games,just like they did with the PS2 and PS1.lol, can you even imagine what this gen would have been like without ms?
we'd be all hyped up for this falls release of lair 3, haze 3, genji 4 and a patch that finishes gt5.
Riverwolf007
No, I'm just scratching my head. I agree with Japan's gaming tastes much more than NA's so that might explain it.kuraimen
I know. You've told me that.
Yes, I posted my opinion that XBLA outweighs everything bad that they've done/may have done. If you don't agree, simply say so. Don't post something like "buh.. your argument is bad." and then attack me for making posts with no value.waltefmoneylol At trying to revert my argument at me,i did not attack you i actually make fun of your post.
lol At trying to revert my argument at me,i did not attack you i actually make fun of your post.tormentos
Okay, noted.
Also what happened to Cowspot? ;) I though Sony was supposed to always win polls.kuraimenNa that is just an excuse use when they loss them. You would be surprise at the things 360 fans see as good,paying for xbox live is just one,now more recently paying for unlocking content that is already inside the disc which you already pay for is some how ok,but i guess that Epic is to blame,the same company who fight with MS because they wanted to give free stuff to the consumer while MS did not like that,now is not even a question if you will get something free for Gears 3 one day,now they sell you 4 pack of DLC in advance,and make you pay for skin which are key lock inside the disc.
[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Also what happened to Cowspot? ;) I though Sony was supposed to always win polls.tormentosNa that is just an excuse use when they loss them. You would be surprise at the things 360 fans see as good,paying for xbox live is just one,now more recently paying for unlocking content that is already inside the disc which you already pay for is some how ok,but i guess that Epic is to blame,the same company who fight with MS because they wanted to give free stuff to the consumer while MS did not like that,now is not even a question if you will get something free for Gears 3 one day,now they sell you 4 pack of DLC in advance,and make you pay for skin which are key lock inside the disc.
It's amazing how many posts you have devoted exclusively to pointing out hypocrisy among "xbox fans." Anyway, got any proof?
Um, Activision defined and set the standard for Strategy Genre this gen. :|wait, excuse me. How?[QUOTE="AngryJuice"]
[QUOTE="jettpack"]
lol, i didnt vote and just hit "results"
Yeah, why is Valve not on the list when activision is. activision hasn't really made any contributions. i would argue that they have hurt the industry. but who knows. i guess you could say that the incredibly popularity of call of duty has expanded the demographic of video games as a whole. i know a bunch of older guys and my friend's dads who now play call of duty.
jettpack
With there game Franchise Call of Duty, they brang some of the most important elements to strategy games
1.Mic Raging- You see, when you yell at someone over the mic and call them profanities and question their sexuality, that is a strategy. It is very strategic. You see when when someone is getting called a gay ****** over the mic it will make them scared and lose their calm, so you can move in for the kill with your already overpowered weapon. That is a strategy that the CoD franchise brang to the table.
2.Overpowered weapons- Using Overpowered weapons is a strategy, a very good strategy at that. You see, when you use overpowered weapons and the enemy turns the corner they will see your Overpowered Death Machine and will be like "Wow! How did you afford that in this economy ?" While they ask you that query, you can then kill them with your overpowered weapon. That is an excellent strategy that just shows how well Call of Duty inovated the genre
3. Killstreaks- You see, when someone uses killstreaks, it's a strategy. Like when you earn a Chopper Gunner the enemies will hear it and they'll be like "Oh nio, that's a powerful killstreak!" and they'll be so startled you can get free and easy kills withyour Chopper Gunner. You see, this is where FPS's like Battleifield 3 and Starcraft 2 really dropped the ball. No Killstreaks = No one will buy the game. Killstreaks are a strategy that CoD has inovated so well.
That is why Activision deserves to be up there, they inovated the strategy genre so well and are excelent community supporters as well. Plus they made Steam.
The PS2 has been online since 2001,in japan and before xbox live arrive in 2002,socom was ruling online gaming with voice chat,maybe they would not have some of the features they had now,that can't be deny but saying they would have not bother is quite stretching the truth.[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] face it tormentos. without XBL, sony probably wouldn't have bothered.sts106mat
no its not strectching the truth at all. from wikipedia (you can lol at wiki, but prove what it says is wrong first)
" Although Sony, unlike Sega with its Dreamcast, placed little emphasis on online gaming during its first few years, that changed upon the launch of the online-capable Xbox. Sony released the PlayStation Network Adapter in late 2002 to compete with Microsoft"
Sony knew they had to up their game when XBL came around, hence why the network adapter was released after XBOX. if there was no original xbox or xbox 360, the PSN would probably be just a shadow of what it is today. competition causes innovation dude.
That's the fact Jack and I didn't need wiki to explain it since I lived it and for the record: Ghost Recon > Socom by light-years. :PPlease Log In to post.
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