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#51 Blaze-Agent
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[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

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all of them? they are all greedy they all want your money any one that doesn't think so is just deluding themselves.

markinthedark

the topic clearly said who is the GREEDIEST? The answer is microsoft. Plain and simple. Even though i voted for nintendo because of their overpriced Hardware. The GREEDIEST! is Microsoft

No microsoft is just the worste at PR. They are all equally greedy, its just a matter of how good they are at convincing you otherwise.

they are not equay greedy. one is more greedy than the other

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#52 gamer-adam1
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MS isnt the worst sony is

and about XBL. I hope you know that servers on the PC are mostly gamer paid for

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#53 markinthedark
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[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="Blaze-Agent"]

the topic clearly said who is the GREEDIEST? The answer is microsoft. Plain and simple. Even though i voted for nintendo because of their overpriced Hardware. The GREEDIEST! is Microsoft

Blaze-Agent

No microsoft is just the worste at PR. They are all equally greedy, its just a matter of how good they are at convincing you otherwise.

they are not equay greedy. one is more greedy than the other

All have the singular goal of making as much money as possible for their share holders. ... in other words... 100% greed motivated... you cant get higher than 100%.

This is more a question of public image and consumer perceptions... as they are all 100% greed motivated.

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#55 StealthMonkey4
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Nintendo, the Wii is a repackaged GCN with motion control, and the 3DS is a repackaged DS with 3D, they also make bad casual games and the same franchises over and over to milk customers.

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#56 mtron32
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you need to add an option for "all"
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#57 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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They are all equally greedy in the sense what Corporation doesn't want more money?
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#58 XenoLair
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Microsoft can suck my dry wallet.

Nintendo, the Wii is a repackaged GCN with motion control, and the 3DS is a repackaged DS with 3D, they also make bad casual games and the same franchises over and over to milk customers.

StealthMonkey4

Wii's CPU is actually twice as faster than a GC.So you get 2 GC's in it.

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Nintendo, the Wii is a repackaged GCN with motion control, and the 3DS is a repackaged DS with 3D, they also make bad casual games and the same franchises over and over to milk customers.

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A company making more games for a successful franchise is worse than Microsoft charging you to play online?:|

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#60 StealthMonkey4
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[QUOTE="StealthMonkey4"]

Nintendo, the Wii is a repackaged GCN with motion control, and the 3DS is a repackaged DS with 3D, they also make bad casual games and the same franchises over and over to milk customers.

Demonjoe93

A company making more games for a successful franchise is worse than Microsoft charging you to play online?:|

I did say that, didn't I?

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#61 campzor
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between microsofts live fees and nintendos overpriced hardware..its hard to pick
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#62 cainetao11
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Microsoft is the one least worried about what people say about how they go about generating income, so I guess they win this poll. but expecting me to pay $600 for a game console, and that is the reason i buy one, not movie formats, was down right greedy in my book as well.
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#63 Ninja-Hippo
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Microsoft seem greedy to the point of honestly not caring what you think of them.
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#64 John_Read
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NIntendo for selling 50$ hardware at 200$
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#65 James161324
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were is the they all want to make money answer

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#66 sethman410
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Lol, MS wins the poll. Not surprising.
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#67 DarkLink77
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All of them do things that piss me off.

Sony: No BC at all in new PS3s to save money. You pay for them to fix their faulty hardware. Rushing out first party exclusives before they are done.

Micorsoft: LIVE fees, timed exclusives/DLC, the occasional rushed game (Fable III).

Nintendo: Multiple versions of the same damn thing because they couldn't be f***ed to do it right the first time. Games stay at high-price points forever.

They're all greedy, but then again, they are multinational corporations, and their goal is to make money. Oh, and the point of this thread (and your inherent bias) isn't lost on anyone, TC.

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#68 mariokart64fan
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microsft

well just look at them

their 360 breaks down ,

it didnt come with wifi until a newer -version and some one near the top said nintendo had to many revisions cause they couldnt get things right the first time lol , maybe they should look at how many psps and ps2s and 1s 3s and 360s there are appearently every console maker made revisions

lets add the cost for a original 360 owner (you slim riders dont even make a peep)

1 wifi -100 bucks

2 hd dvd-150 at launch -failed

3- kenict -just to be a wii 150

4 because we gotta play online -60 bucks right!
5 expensive hard drives only go up to 250 gigs note mines almost full and im stranded cause i own a phat 360 -120 for fat 250 at launch 100 for 20 gig at launch and 179 for the 120 gig at launch

6 controllers cost 60 -that goes for all 3 this gen

7 of all the things wrong with the xbox 360 --- -ive been out and bought 7 - add this 300 x 2 200 x 5 thats 1600 thanks to break downs

and they to me are knwon for refusal to service my xbox 360 within 6 months of purchase!

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#69 EntropyWins
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Microsoft, but Sony is trying to catch up fast.

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#71 TheAcountantMan
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Microsoft
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#72 Swift_Boss_A
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Sony because they have a boat load of exclusives coming to take our money.

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#73 DJ_Headshot
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Nintendo sells there console for a nice profit on each sale by selling us souped up last gen hardware with gimmicks oh wait that's just doing what a business is supposed to do and earn money.
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#74 kyacat
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All three comanpies are greedy Sony.Microsoft,Nintendo and only want our money
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#75 Seiki_sands
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Nintendo*- Overprices the Wii hardware. Overprices old software, both its MSRP for first party Wii titles and prices for the Virtual Console. Has a knack for creating games that require the purchase of expensive external accessories, which are poorly supported.

Microsoft- Did not do due diligence with manufacturing their consoles (supposedly by choosing inferior materials, but whatever the problem, it was very real). They are the only console manufacturer that charges for online play. They have a pretend currency, likely to mask the consequences of purchasing the many, many small bits of content that they offer in the marketplace, including a vast array of crappy, cheap impulse-buy style vanity items.

Sony- Tried to strengthen their long term situation on the backs of early adopters by using Blu-Ray and thus delaying their console and raising its asking price to $600 in order to win a format war against the HD-DVD consortium. Imo, the largely non-gaming related, nearly pyrrhic victory, fell almost entirely on SCE's most loyal customers both in the form of the launch price and mediocre early support (presumably due to risk averse publishers afraid of low sales). Also, they removed the backward compatibility feature and subsequently started selling remakes of PS2 games.

* Note: Many would say Nintendo's releasing of numerous revisions to the DS hardware matter here, but that's silly to me. There are far more skus of the 360 and PS3 than there are of the DS. Further, releases like the DSi XL are about serving niche markets, not making anyone buy two versions of the same hardware, one substantially better than the other. They offered a choice of preference between larger screens with the same resolution as the smaller ones, which were thus a little blurrier, or smaller and clearer screens of the DSi. Nor would I consider improving hardware over time as cost falls to maintain pricing greedy. People buying later have a right to expect more and it is one of the reasons some of them waited in the first place.

MS's actions are the most day 2 day obvious of the bunch, but I would be hard pressed to say they are the most greedy. I suspect Sony would be charging for online if they were in a dominant position relative to MS (Yes, I know MS is not in a dominant position relative to Sony, so don't bother). And I could soooo see Nintendo nickel & diming with an avatar store and am a bit surprised they haven't already followed MS's lead with a Mii Store. I can't see Nintendo's culture allowing it to make a poor console durability-wise at this point (yes, you had to blow on your NES haha, get over it, it still works 25 years later with a bit of air power), but I could certainly see Sony doing so as they've done so in the recent past, and I don't think they've "learned their lesson", I think they charged $600 and if YLoD were as big a deal as RRoD when your charging $600 for a game machine, you're asking for pitchforks and torches.

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Nintendo, the Wii is a repackaged GCN with motion control, and the 3DS is a repackaged DS with 3D, they also make bad casual games and the same franchises over and over to milk customers.

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Search the features of the 3DS again and the graphics are way stronger than an actual DS which was at PS1 levels in terms of graphics.The 3DS has GC/Wii graphics.Actually that milking title belongs to Activision. Even though ninty hasn't released some of their other older titles yet they know how to space the main games of the franchises they create.I don't care about the party/sport games for Mario because they only release every couple of years. Pokemon may be they only franchise they release like crazy.Actually think of other logical points like the high price point for ninty first party games next time.

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#77 nintendoboy16
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*looks at poll* Damn, I'm surprised Nintendo didn't get that high. :shock:
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#78 nintendoboy16
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NIntendo for selling 50$ hardware at 200$John_Read
Dude, they sell it that high to make a profit and to pay off their other stuff, like taxes, worker labor, etc. You can't expect hardware that costs less to make and sell it for that much.
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#79 ccagracing
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So Microsoft are the most successful (greediest) company then according to this well researched factual poll. Sony are the Robin Hood of the retail industry lol!!

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Obviously MS by a landslide.
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#81 Demonjoe93
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NIntendo for selling 50$ hardware at 200$John_Read

The Wii isn't $50 hardware.

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What's with the sanctimonious MS fans in this thread who instead of acknowledging that MS is definatley overcharging and nickle and diming 360 users for everything they can, are instead attacking the TC for pointing it out?

It's that kind of attidude that enables them to do what they do.

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#83 chrion133
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The greed actually caused my last hurrah with consoles, when last year I was bored and sat down at my brothers XBOX 360 to fart around on the dashboard. EVERYTHING and I do mean everything was micro purchasing, literally in 1 single days worth of TV show watching, movie watching, music video watching that I do on my pc every day for free, I would spend 50-80 bucks on the 360 doing. XBOX live and the PS3 online systems are absolute piles of garbage. Everytime someone actually buys that crap they are telling those companies that charging us to watch a Korn music video from 1998 is ok, its gamers faults that this travesty is happening.

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#84 chrion133
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[QUOTE="John_Read"]NIntendo for selling 50$ hardware at 200$Demonjoe93

The Wii isn't $50 hardware.

If you went back to an old throwback pc hardware website and bought something equivalent it would probably cost less than 50$ actually. Its really a steaming pile of very very sad ooooooold technology...like pre P4 onboard graphics level sadness.

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#85 SecretPolice
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Sorry but it's been "N" for decades but that doesn't mean I didn't love the games. :P

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#86 locopatho
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All of them. As companies, their purpose for existing is to make as much money as possible!
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#87 Truth_Hurts_U
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Nintendo= MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sony

Nintendo over charges for their consoles, games and milks.

MS charges forpractically everything dealing with online.

Sony... Ummm... Move?

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#88 locopatho
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Nintendo= MS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sony

Nintendo over charges for their consoles, games and milks.

MS charges forpractically everything dealing with online.

Sony... Ummm... Move?

Truth_Hurts_U
Umm, 600+ euro launch price, charge over a 100 euro to fix if it breaks, releasing Sixaxis with assurances rumble was "last gen" then releasing DualShock 3? None of them are saints like....
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#89 aia89
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despiting like the console and owning one, I also gotta go with Microsoft on this one. Nintendo seems to do it as well, but in a more subtle way.

Sony was the greediest in the previous gens though.

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#90 Heil68
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Nintendo by far..Cheapest hardware and never a price drop on their games.
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#91 BigBoss255
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MS by far. Nintendo are also greed, of course Sony are out to make money but they have a nicer way of doing it compared to the other two.
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#92 illshogunlord
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How about all of them because the bottom line is all they care about is your money

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#93 Snugenz
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What's with the sanctimonious MS fans in this thread who instead of acknowledging that MS is definatley overcharging and nickle and diming 360 users for everything they can, are instead attacking the TC for pointing it out?

It's that kind of attidude that enables them to do what they do.

Pray_to_me

Whats with the delusional Sony fans in this thread thinking Sony are a "nicer" form of greedy. :roll:

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Microsoft, hands down.

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People in this thread are butthurt that most people say M$, what makes them even more butthurt is that it's with good reason - not random hate, so they go off on a delusional rant about "all companies exist to make $$$" and "clear fanboy agenda from TC". How about the live subscription fee, or the hike on the fee. How about buying up a varitey of studios, then because they couldn't make a quick turnover shutting them down, good studios with good track records. How about the general actions and infamomy of the company before they even got into the console market.
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#96 Snugenz
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People in this thread are butthurt that most people say M$, what makes them even more butthurt is that it's with good reason - not random hate, so they go off on a delusional rant about "all companies exist to make $$$" and "clear fanboy agenda from TC". How about the live subscription fee, or the hike on the fee. How about buying up a varitey of studios, then because they couldn't make a quick turnover shutting them down, good studios with good track records. How about the general actions and infamomy of the company before they even got into the console market.Kan0nF0dder

You're dead right, the other two never did anything like the things you mentioned ...

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#97 Demonjoe93
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[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="John_Read"]NIntendo for selling 50$ hardware at 200$chrion133

The Wii isn't $50 hardware.

If you went back to an old throwback pc hardware website and bought something equivalent it would probably cost less than 50$ actually. Its really a steaming pile of very very sad ooooooold technology...like pre P4 onboard graphics level sadness.

It's still not meant to be PC hardware. It doesn't even get the same type of games as PC does.

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#98 savagetwinkie
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MS because of the fact they shipped out 360 consoles early (to beat nintendo and sony) knowing that RROD was an issue Diviniuz
do you have a link to them knowing about this issue? I believe if they did it has more to do with them having locked specs for devs... this is the most ignorant statement i've seen on system wars in a while. I highly doubt microsoft wanted to replace all those 360's... you think it was going to be an easy fix considering they went through 3 versions of the chipset before it was fixed... it was a material problem which ati/nvidia both suffered, the problem with Microsoft was that they couldn't just switch out the materials without effecting the system specs, they were pretty much locked in until they re-designed the chipset.
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#99 savagetwinkie
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People in this thread are butthurt that most people say M$, what makes them even more butthurt is that it's with good reason - not random hate, so they go off on a delusional rant about "all companies exist to make $$$" and "clear fanboy agenda from TC". How about the live subscription fee, or the hike on the fee. How about buying up a varitey of studios, then because they couldn't make a quick turnover shutting them down, good studios with good track records. How about the general actions and infamomy of the company before they even got into the console market.Kan0nF0dder
live is a different type of network, they maintain a lot of the underlying network layers for games/servers for better upgrade ability and maintainability, far better integration of the features so even though i have a ps3/360/pc i still game the majority of the time on my 360, and how is buying studios then shutting them down a good way to make money? most of the studios they bought failed miserably to produce quality games, look at too human and shadowrun they deserved to be canned... the ONLY thing i'd say is bad about MS is their accessory prices, mainly the HDD's but thats about it at this point,
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MS 71% [137] Sony 10% [20] Nintendo 19% [36]