Which game do you think is going to be the RPG of this year?

TES V: Skyrim. The Witcher 2 and Dark Souls will be amazing aswell.

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] Except that it won't. Considering the reviewer's complaints about the game, it sounded like it barely managed to score a 9.0. The Witcher 2 won't get RPG of the year here. End of line.psn8214

It definitely won't be Dragon Age 2. :P

Then when DA II came out he was convincing people that Witcher 2 is going to flop.

Now this.

All this hate posting because he played two hours of the first Witcher and didn't like it. I don't even know what is going on anymore.

Difficult, both Dark Souls and Skyrim look terrific, and GS seemed to have liked TW2 a lot. There's also the chance Human Revolutions delivers. That would be cool.

Considering the reviewer's complaints about the game, it sounded like it barely managed to score a 9.0.SkyWard20

That's incorrect.

Let's look at the last 9s I have given. The Witcher 2, sure, that is an RPG. (And it more than earned its score.)Kevin-V

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[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] Except that it won't. Considering the reviewer's complaints about the game, it sounded like it barely managed to score a 9.0. The Witcher 2 won't get RPG of the year here. End of line.GeneralShowzer

It definitely won't be Dragon Age 2. :P

Then when DA II came out he was convincing people that Witcher 2 is going to flop.

Now this.

All this hate posting because he played two hours of the first Witcher and didn't like it. I don't even know what is going on anymore.

While I still think the first Witchor was crap, I don't consider the second to be a bad game at all. It's just that with games like Skyrim, Dark Souls for the PS3/Xbox, and possibly Diablo 3 coming out, the Witcher 2 is simply outmatched in terms of having any chance of winning RPG of the year on GS. There are people here who no doubt think Eastern-European developers are the saviours of... Western RPG's, when most often their games come with many bugs, inconsistencies and other design quirks, or an overall lack of polish -- the second Witchor being no exception to this.

I consider all this hype over the game to be a result of it getting released at a time when there weren't many quality role-playing games out.

Is the first Witcher a bad game? Definitely. Is the second Witchor good? Yes. Can the entire Witchor series match games like Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3/New Vegas, or Skyrim. No, no, and again, no.

Difficult, both Dark Souls and Skyrim look terrific, and GS seemed to have liked TW2 a lot. There's also the chance Human Revolutions delivers. That would be cool.

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]Considering the reviewer's complaints about the game, it sounded like it barely managed to score a 9.0.IronBass

That's incorrect.

Let's look at the last 9s I have given. The Witcher 2, sure, that is an RPG. (And it more than earned its score.)Kevin-V

I remember Kevin's twitter updates being mostly negative. I've seen that reply before.SkyWard20

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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

It definitely won't be Dragon Age 2. :P

SkyWard20

Then when DA II came out he was convincing people that Witcher 2 is going to flop.

Now this.

All this hate posting because he played two hours of the first Witcher and didn't like it. I don't even know what is going on anymore.

While I still think the first Witchor was crap, I don't consider the second to be a bad game at all. It's just that with games like Skyrim, Dark Souls for the PS3/Xbox, and possibly Diablo 3 coming out, the Witcher 2 is simply outmatched in terms of having any chance of winning RPG of the year on GS. There are people here who no doubt think Eastern-European developers are the saviours of... Western RPG's, when most often their games come with many bugs, inconsistencies and other design quirks, or an overall lack of polish -- the second Witchor being no exception to this.

I consider all this hype over the game to be a result of it getting released at a time when there weren't many quality role-playing games out.

Is the first Witcher a bad game? Definitely. Is the second Witchor good? Yes. Can the entire Witchor series match games like Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3/New Vegas, or Skyrim. No, no, and again, no.

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] I remember Kevin's twitter updates being mostly negative. I've seen that reply before.IronBass

If you say so.

The game can be 'deserving' of a 9.0 and also 'barely make it', but that's just me.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] First he was barging in Witcher 2 topics convincing people that DA II will be better in every way imaginable.

Then when DA II came out he was convincing people that Witcher 2 is going to flop.

Now this.

All this hate posting because he played two hours of the first Witcher and didn't like it. I don't even know what is going on anymore.

GeneralShowzer

While I still think the first Witchor was crap, I don't consider the second to be a bad game at all. It's just that with games like Skyrim, Dark Souls for the PS3/Xbox, and possibly Diablo 3 coming out, the Witcher 2 is simply outmatched in terms of having any chance of winning RPG of the year on GS. There are people here who no doubt think Eastern-European developers are the saviours of... Western RPG's, when most often their games come with many bugs, inconsistencies and other design quirks, or an overall lack of polish -- the second Witchor being no exception to this.

I consider all this hype over the game to be a result of it getting released at a time when there weren't many quality role-playing games out.

Is the first Witcher a bad game? Definitely. Is the second Witchor good? Yes. Can the entire Witchor series match games like Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3/New Vegas, or Skyrim. No, no, and again, no.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]

While I still think the first Witchor was crap, I don't consider the second to be a bad game at all. It's just that with games like Skyrim, Dark Souls for the PS3/Xbox, and possibly Diablo 3 coming out, the Witcher 2 is simply outmatched in terms of having any chance of winning RPG of the year on GS. There are people here who no doubt think Eastern-European developers are the saviours of... Western RPG's, when most often their games come with many bugs, inconsistencies and other design quirks, or an overall lack of polish -- the second Witchor being no exception to this.

I consider all this hype over the game to be a result of it getting released at a time when there weren't many quality role-playing games out.

Is the first Witcher a bad game? Definitely. Is the second Witchor good? Yes. Can the entire Witchor series match games like Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age: Origins, Fallout 3/New Vegas, or Skyrim. No, no, and again, no.

SkyWard20

Fallout 3, Demon Souls, Mass Effect 2 all won that award and they all have the same score.

If you say so.The game can be 'deserving' of a 9.0 and also 'barely make it', but that's just me.SkyWard20

The Witcher 2

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]If you say so.The game can be 'deserving' of a 9.0 and also 'barely make it', but that's just me.IronBass

Actually, we're both speculating about the reviewer's opinion while taking what I said into account for a comparison. And no, it doesn't change what he said. I merely choose to take notice of more than one of his posts, outside his employer's website.SkyWard20

I'm not speculating. He said he thought the game was more than deserving. There's no room for speculation there, it's as clear as it can be.

Unless you can prove the contrary, which until this point you haven't.

. While I have not played The Witcher 1 or 2 yet I have to say Bioware is the king of characters and story and Bethesda is the king of freedom and exploration. Lets face it most gamers do not even remember the main person in The Witcher let alone all the other people but everyone knows who Tali is or Wrex,Garrus,Mirranda, and so on. Bi.rybe1025

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]Actually, we're both speculating about the reviewer's opinion while taking what I said into account for a comparison. And no, it doesn't change what he said. I merely choose to take notice of more than one of his posts, outside his employer's website.IronBass

I'm not speculating. He said he thought the game was more than deserving. There's no room for speculation there, it's as clear as it can be.

Unless you can prove the contrary, which until this point you haven't.

But that's not what I'm speculating about.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]. While I have not played The Witcher 1 or 2 yet I have to say Bioware is the king of characters and story and Bethesda is the king of freedom and exploration. Lets face it most gamers do not even remember the main person in The Witcher let alone all the other people but everyone knows who Tali is or Wrex,Garrus,Mirranda, and so on. Bi.GeneralShowzer

Prove that he hasn't said what you just posted? I've taken that into account already. :?But that's not what I'm speculating about.SkyWard20

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]. While I have not played The Witcher 1 or 2 yet I have to say Bioware is the king of characters and story and Bethesda is the king of freedom and exploration. Lets face it most gamers do not even remember the main person in The Witcher let alone all the other people but everyone knows who Tali is or Wrex,Garrus,Mirranda, and so on. Bi.GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]. While I have not played The Witcher 1 or 2 yet I have to say Bioware is the king of characters and story and Bethesda is the king of freedom and exploration. Lets face it most gamers do not even remember the main person in The Witcher let alone all the other people but everyone knows who Tali is or Wrex,Garrus,Mirranda, and so on. Bi.rybe1025

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] Prove that he hasn't said what you just posted? I've taken that into account already. :?But that's not what I'm speculating about.IronBass

Oh, I believe the game is 'more than deserving' of the score... in the lowest manner possible. I don't feel the need to 'go by' anything else, thank you.SkyWard20

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] ... I don't know what to sayGeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]Oh, I believe the game is 'more than deserving' of the score... in the lowest manner possible. I don't feel the need to 'go by' anything else, thank you.IronBass

Obviously. :?SkyWard20

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]Obviously. :?IronBass

Did you ignore my other replies? I've already stated why I didn't think his words are clear, given his previous negativity. The game could've been anywhere between 8.8-9.2 with Gamespot's previous rating method, for it to get rounded. 'Deserving', but only barely so.SkyWard20

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"] Did you ignore my other replies? I've already stated why I didn't think his words are clear, given his previous negativity. The game could've been anywhere between 8.8-9.2 with Gamespot's previous rating method, for it to get rounded. 'Deserving', but only barely so.IronBass

But for the third time, we're not talking about what you think. We're talking about the reviewer.SkyWard20

I'm not sure I'm following you now. Are you implying that the sentence "And it more than earned that score" leaves room for interpretation?

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]But for the third time, we're not talking about what you think. We're talking about the reviewer.IronBass

I'm not sure I'm following you now. Are you implying that the sentence "And it more than earned that score" leaves room for interpretation?

Not taken into account exclusively, no.SkyWard20

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]Not taken into account exclusively, no.IronBass

It is. I wasn't taking that post into account exclusively. Were that so, I wouldn't have bothered. Obviously, even attempting to 'prove it' would require something external.SkyWard20

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]It is. I wasn't taking that post into account exclusively. Were that so, I wouldn't have bothered. Obviously, even attempting to 'prove it' would require something external.IronBass

You mean, make the claim that there's more to it and bring something forth as support for said claim? Already done so, and in my first reply to you.

Dragon Age 2?

You mean, make the claim that there's more to it and bring something forth as support for said claim? Already done so, and in my first reply to you.SkyWard20

Proof that he doesn't think what he says he thinks about TW2 being more than deserving.

Without that, I see little point in continuing this discussion

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]You mean, make the claim that there's more to it and bring something forth as support for said claim? Already done so, and in my first reply to you.IronBass

Proof that he doesn't think what he says he thinks about TW2 being more than deserving.

That's not exactly how I worded it, unfortunately. Not discounting that as a possibility either though.

Obviously, absolute proof is something we both lack. So again, Twitter ( as evidence ).

Xenoblade or Dark Souls

That's not exactly how I worded it, unfortunately. Not discounting that as a possibility either though.Obviously, absolute proof is something we both lack. So again, Twitter ( as evidence ).SkyWard20

Would surprise me if Skyrim doesn't win it

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"]That's not exactly how I worded it, unfortunately. Not discounting that as a possibility either though.Obviously, absolute proof is something we both lack. So again, Twitter ( as evidence ).IronBass

Both claims are from his own posts. This is a case of attempting to shift the burden of proof on your part ( managed rather poorly, I might add ).