Which GS review was the bigger crime? Mass Effect, Twilight Princess, or R&C

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#1 nervmeister
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I'm glad tensions over these three scores have subsided (more or less), but when you look back on em' which do you think was the most unjust scoring?

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#2 All_that_is_Man
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Twightlight princess should of got 9.2 and mass effect was just right
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#3 fenwickhotmail
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Mass Effect. Still the best game on the 360 imo. That review was so full of nick-picking it was unreal.

TP I felt was too similar to previous editions and got what it deserved.

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#4 haziqonfire
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Mass Effect.

TP was OoT with a new skin.

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#5 All_that_is_Man
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Mass effect had multiple bugs...and was kinda a wanna be KOTOR ....So I stand and say mass effect got what it deserved
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#6 Lionheart08
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You might want to add R&C: ToD. It got underrated by Gamespot too. :P

Out of the two you said, Twilight Princess. That game was awesome IMO. Not as good as Windwaker, but definitely should've gotten a 9.

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#7 All_that_is_Man
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R&C got what it deserved, its a game targeted for a specific audience and that audience will like it no matter what anyone else says or rates it
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Skate. Criminally underrated.
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#9 Bigboi500
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Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn. It scored a 6.0 here and was a much better game than that. The reviewer scored it so low because he said it was too "hardcore" even on the easy setting. So essentially he scored it low because he couldn't beat it.

I beat it on normal setting which is the hard setting in Japan, wasn't that hard. :?

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#10 Spartan070
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Mass Effect. New ratings scale = 9.5 Old ratings scale = 9.3-9.5.
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#11 All_that_is_Man
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Mass Effect. New ratings scale = 9.5 Old ratings scale = 9.3-9.5.Spartan070

mass effects not that great of a game buddy....

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#12 dgsag
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Mass Effect wasn't so bad, since GS rightfully gave the PC version a higher score.
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#13 Couth_
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I'm not a fan of the game, but if Gamespot had given Uncharted any higher, it would be a AAA on GR. Now it's like at 89.999
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#14 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Mass Effect. New ratings scale = 9.5 Old ratings scale = 9.3-9.5.All_that_is_Man

mass effects not that great of a game buddy....

It's called an opinion. One I heavily disagree with seeing as I hated the level design and lack of choices among other things, but nevertheless, an opinion and there's no such thing as a right or wrong opinion.

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#15 All_that_is_Man
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I liked uncharted, it was a fun game I think it should of scored at least a 8.4 or so

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#16 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]Mass Effect. New ratings scale = 9.5 Old ratings scale = 9.3-9.5.Technoweirdo

mass effects not that great of a game buddy....

It's called an opinion. One I heavily disagree with seeing as I hated the level design and lack of choices among other things, but nevertheless, an opinion and there's no such thing as a right or wrong opinion.

well either way your agreeing with me...I think? ....HIGH FIVE

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#17 Vandalvideo
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Mass Effect got too high of a score. Theres no way a game released the way it was should have gotten anywhere near AAA.
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#18 HarlockJC
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Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn and Metroid 3

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#19 All_that_is_Man
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Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn and Metroid 3

HarlockJC

You do realize that neither of these games are on the list?

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#20 Nisim19
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if GTA and MGS4 got a 10 so ME is also need to get a 10 score
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#21 EuroMafia
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Twilight Princess, how was that not AAA worthy?
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#22 blackeneddeath
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R&C's review was hysterically bad, game should of gotten 8.5+. Mass Effect, while being the best game on the 360 that i have played, is still an incredibly glitchy game and i can see how it got the score it got. Twilight Princess should of been over 9.0. Well what am i talking about i'm not not a reviewer so this doesnt really matter.
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#23 Newsboy
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Well, if we take into consideration the averages of all reviewer scores versus the Gamespot score we will find that LoZ:TP got a 94.4% and was awarded an 8.8 (88%) here, for a difference of 6.4%; Mass Effect was awarded a 91.1% and was awarded an 8.5 (85%) here for a difference of 6.1%; Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction was given an 88.7% and was awarded a 7.5 (75%) here for a difference of 13.7%

Therefore, the answer is Ratchet and Clank Future: Tools of Destruction by quite a bit.

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#24 blackeneddeath
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Twilight Princess, how was that not AAA worthy?EuroMafia

dated midi music, no voice acting... But still the game overall is a AAA experience imo

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#25 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn and Metroid 3

All_that_is_Man

You do realize that neither of these games are on the list?

I'm a flexible dude when it comes to my own threads, so dont worry about it.
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#26 All_that_is_Man
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People these days hand out scores way to easily 8.5 should be a truely great game ....that Everyone will enjoy ....R&C is not that game...and deserves a 8 max
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#27 HarlockJC
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn and Metroid 3

All_that_is_Man

You do realize that neither of these games are on the list?

You don't say. Glad you pointed that out for me.

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R&C, 7.5..really? PC review of of Mass Effect was just right, I think the 360 version was justified aswell.
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#29 All_that_is_Man
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"]Twilight Princess, how was that not AAA worthy?blackeneddeath

dated midi music, no voice acting... But still the game overall is a AAA experience imo

its not no voice acting because it can't support it, its because link is to cool to talk....it wouldn't be a zelda game with voice acting because people would argue with what link should sound like.

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#30 BioShockOwnz
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Mass Effect -- It should've been a 9.0-9.5. The only issues it had were some little framerate drops and texture pop-in.
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#31 Funkyhamster
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Metroid Prime 3 wasn't a crime, and neither was Twilight Princess or R&C... Mass Effect I'll reserve judgement on until I have hands-on time with it.
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#32 SpruceCaboose
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Ratchet & Clank. It was well under what I would say it deserved, where as Mass Effect and Zelda were much closer to what they should have gotten.
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#33 blackeneddeath
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People these days hand out scores way to easily 8.5 should be a truely great game ....that Everyone will enjoy ....R&C is not that game...and deserves a 8 maxAll_that_is_Man

It was the best in an already good series, a great 3d platformer in a generation that is rare to be found, Outstanding presentation; when taking these into account it should easily get 8.5 even though it may have limited audience and a decent lasting appeal.

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#34 All_that_is_Man
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Mass Effect -- It should've been a 9.0-9.5. The only issues it had were some little framerate drops and texture pop-in.BioShockOwnz

Those are pretty major issues for a finished game......and the driving in mass effect was broken...

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#35 gamer620
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Mass Effect. Still the best game on the 360 imo. That review was so full of nick-picking it was unreal.

TP I felt was too similar to previous editions and got what it deserved.

fenwickhotmail

You know what else mass effect was full of? Game stopping bugs. I ran across 2 upon my first playthrough.

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#36 All_that_is_Man
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Metroid Prime 3 wasn't a crime, and neither was Twilight Princess or R&C... Mass Effect I'll reserve judgement on until I have hands-on time with it.Funkyhamster

Make sure you play KOTOR first before you play mass effect

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Mass Effect -- It should've been a 9.0-9.5. The only issues it had were some little framerate drops and texture pop-in.All_that_is_Man

Those are pretty major issues for a finished game......and the driving in mass effect was broken...

Nope, not at all. They were pretty minor in the game, actually. I handled the driving fine. People like to say it was "broken", but those people just never learned how to drive the Mako. Some gamers want instant gratification, then if they don't get it, they cry all the way home.

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#38 Auroni
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The only game on that list that I havent played is R&C and I can say that the other two don't deserve more than the score given so I have to go with R&C.

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#39 BrownWalrus
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Easily R & C, especially when you look at the average.

ME and TP at least got fairly close to the average, and still got great scores (8.5 and 8.8) but giving R & C 7.5 was just preposterous, especially when the average was 9. Biggest mistake ever, that's when i stopped taking GS reviews seriously.

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#40 XB360_John
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mass effect is a 9.0 for sure
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[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Mass Effect -- It should've been a 9.0-9.5. The only issues it had were some little framerate drops and texture pop-in.BioShockOwnz

Those are pretty major issues for a finished game......and the driving in mass effect was broken...

Nope, not at all. They were pretty minor in the game, actually. I handled the driving fine. People like to say it was "broken", but those people just never learned how to drive the Mako. Some gamers want instant gratification, then if they don't get it, they cry all the way home.

You make it sound as if the Mako was some thing that you'll learn how to control in a few hours.

It wasnt.

Mass Effect deserved its score. It was an amazing game, though it did have some problems.

R&C on the other hand was completely underrated.

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#42 epic_pets
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Ratchet and clank is more like a 9 game.
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#43 Krigon
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Ratchet and Clank: tools of destruction and Uncharted.
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Nope, not at all. They were pretty minor in the game, actually. I handled the driving fine. People like to say it was "broken", but those people just never learned how to drive the Mako. Some gamers want instant gratification, then if they don't get it, they cry all the way home. BioShockOwnz

They just wanted quick travel and don't want to admit it. I personally loved scaling mountains in the Mako... I spent hours roaming around on different planets' surfaces just exploring the landscape, even if it was mostly barren and empty. But then again, since when has real space exploration been any fun?
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#45 BrownWalrus
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[QUOTE="All_that_is_Man"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Mass Effect -- It should've been a 9.0-9.5. The only issues it had were some little framerate drops and texture pop-in.BioShockOwnz

Those are pretty major issues for a finished game......and the driving in mass effect was broken...

Nope, not at all. They were pretty minor in the game, actually. I handled the driving fine. People like to say it was "broken", but those people just never learned how to drive the Mako. Some gamers want instant gratification, then if they don't get it, they cry all the way home.

There were definitely more than just "little" framerate drops and texture pop ins...Great game, but pretty damn buggy. I would say 8.5 was accurate, easily 9 if they fixed those issues. That's part of why ME on the PC got 9.

You think words such as "it's like playing a different game" mean nothing?

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#46 Fawlcon_Pawnch
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Twilight Princess is a 9.0 game so, yeah...TP
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Ratchet and Clank hands down!! that one was just pure madness
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#49 munu9
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You guys have no respect for R&C. An 8.9 games isn't vastly wores than a 9.1 game. Just because one is AA and the other AAA. It's just 0.2 appart. That's what twilight princess or ME were. 0.5 appart from a fair score at most. While R&C on the otherhand, was at least a full 1.0 point off from what it should have gotten.
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#50 The_Game21x
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Mass Effect, hands down. In my opinion, that game was brilliant and deserved no less than a 9.