Which is better. . . console gaming or PC gaming? (POLL!)

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#201 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Pc standards as a whole are higher then consoles, so say a game on Pc got a 7, that same game would get an 8 or even 9 on console.

Care to explain why that has never happened with any multiplatform game? :lol:

O but it has more then once, Take a look at SC:Conviction, PC: 6.5 , 360: 8.0 ??? And you cant say its because it was a bad port. No excuses.
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#202 Arach666
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Pc standards as a whole are higher then consoles, so say a game on Pc got a 7, that same game would get an 8 or even 9 on console.

Care to explain why that has never happened with any multiplatform game? :lol:

O but it has more then once, Take a look at SC:Conviction, PC: 6.5 , 360: 8.0 ??? And you cant say its because it was a bad port. No excuses.

Also MW2.
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#203 br0kenrabbit  Online
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

If Pc is better then 360, Pc is better the PS3 and is better then the Wii, then Pc is better then Consoles.....

GioVela2010

Yup. His argument is along the lines of: "Your Porshe may smoke my Pinto, but my Pinto, Gremlin and Brat smoke your Porshe." :roll:

You can't be that dense :|

My argument is more along the lines of a Corvette ZR1 is faster than a 911 Turbo, but Porsche as a whole is still better than Chevrolet.

Cadillac is better than VW, But German cars are still better than American cars.

And for the record I drive a 480 Horsepower BMW

So then tell me which single console can stand up to the PC independently?

And I don't give a crap about cars. I think they all suck.

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#204 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Yup. His argument is along the lines of: "Your Porshe may smoke my Pinto, but my Pinto, Gremlin and Brat smoke your Porshe." :roll:

br0kenrabbit

You can't be that dense :|

My argument is more along the lines of a Corvette ZR1 is faster than a 911 Turbo, but Porsche as a whole is still better than Chevrolet.

Cadillac is better than VW, But German cars are still better than American cars.

And for the record I drive a 480 Horsepower BMW

So then tell me which single console can stand up to the PC independently?

And I don't give a crap about cars. I think they all suck.

Thread title:

"Which is better console gaming or PC gaming?"

You wanna compare PC to one console independently, go ahead and make a thread about it.

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#205 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

Yup. His argument is along the lines of: "Your Porshe may smoke my Pinto, but my Pinto, Gremlin and Brat smoke your Porshe." :roll:

br0kenrabbit

You can't be that dense :|

My argument is more along the lines of a Corvette ZR1 is faster than a 911 Turbo, but Porsche as a whole is still better than Chevrolet.

Cadillac is better than VW, But German cars are still better than American cars.

And for the record I drive a 480 Horsepower BMW

So then tell me which single console can stand up to the PC independently?

And I don't give a crap about cars. I think they all suck.

Tricycles are better, :P

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#206 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Pc standards as a whole are higher then consoles, so say a game on Pc got a 7, that same game would get an 8 or even 9 on console.

04dcarraher

Care to explain why that has never happened with any multiplatform game? :lol:

O but it has more then once, Take a look at SC:Conviction, PC: 6.5 , 360: 8.0 ??? And you cant say its because it was a bad port. No excuses.

Bugs, glitches and connection issues, no voice or text chat in co-op...Try reading the review next time...

Heck, IGN reviewed this late on PC because they couldn't even get online....

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#207 br0kenrabbit  Online
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Thread title:

"Which is better console gaming or PC gaming?"

You wanna compare PC to one console independently, go ahead and make a thread about it.

GioVela2010

Oh, please.:roll: If you want to stick to the logic of the title we need to compare ALL console games in history against ALL PC games in history. :roll:

And even if you're just considering 'systems currently on the market' then nothing in the title says you can only include PC games from this gen. Again, generations is a console term and the PC is not...infected...by such resets every 5-7 years.

So yeah, go ahead and match the current gen consoles up against the PC and it's vast library, it'll still win.

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#208 Golden_Boy187
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PC gaming is dying or dead but i love playing rts on it

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#209 Danm_999
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PC gaming is dying or dead

Golden_Boy187
Splendidly reasoned.
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#210 br0kenrabbit  Online
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PC gaming is dying or dead but i love playing rts on it

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Atari 2600, NES, Master System, Gameboy, SNES, Genesis, N64, Gamecube, Playstation, Saturn, Playstation 2, Dreamcast and Xbox are dead. The PC is just fine. Still.

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#211 Golden_Boy187
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[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]

PC gaming is dying or dead

Danm_999

Splendidly reasoned.

i said i love playing RTS on them like age of empires and some CSS from time to time

but yeah PC gaming is still dying

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#212 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

Thread title:

"Which is better console gaming or PC gaming?"

You wanna compare PC to one console independently, go ahead and make a thread about it.

br0kenrabbit

Oh, please.:roll: If you want to stick to the logic of the title we need to compare ALL console games in history against ALL PC games in history. :roll:

I don't have the time for that, perhaps you do tho. Go ahead and knock yourself out, I already provided the lists for current gen games in which Console Gaming came out on top.

If you want some help I'll get you started with a list of all the consoles ever made.

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#213 GioVela2010
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[QUOTE="Golden_Boy187"]

PC gaming is dying or dead but i love playing rts on it

br0kenrabbit

Atari 2600, NES, Master System, Gameboy, SNES, Genesis, N64, Gamecube, Playstation, Saturn, Playstation 2, Dreamcast and Xbox are dead. The PC is just fine. Still.

Console Gaming is alive and top dog.

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#215 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

Thread title:

"Which is better console gaming or PC gaming?"

You wanna compare PC to one console independently, go ahead and make a thread about it.

GioVela2010

Oh, please.:roll: If you want to stick to the logic of the title we need to compare ALL console games in history against ALL PC games in history. :roll:

I don't have the time for that, perhaps you do tho. Go ahead and knock yourself out, I already provided the lists for current gen games in which Console Gaming came out on top.

If you want some help I'll get you started with a list of all the consoles ever made.

you know, posting a list with such a huge amount of blatent flaws (which all seem to help out consoles for some reason, must be a coincidence) isnt exacly helping you out much, nor does it help much that you need to combine all 3 consoles to actually beat the PC...if anything, it just makes PC gaming apear more impressive.

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#216 br0kenrabbit  Online
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Console Gaming is alive and top dog.

GioVela2010

If you want to ignore all the rotting console corpses left through time.

And top dog? Not even EA agrees with that:

EA: PC gaming is growing, console hardware race slowing.

Excerpt: "Very rapidly the PC is becoming the largest gaming platform in the world, just not in a packaged-good product"

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#217 br0kenrabbit  Online
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]I dont think the 32-bit 4gb limit is the real issue, I think the real issue is that since all the big companies/Devs focus on the closed and limited consoles making games for thelowest common denominator. They dont spend the time as they use too on Pc gaming when & where they started out. EA, Activision, and many others have looked away or were shutdown because of the greed of money and being to big for their own good. There are few games any more that you can see real effort and soul put into games, the rest are cash cows, feeding the masses.xDimMaK

I'm referring to PC-exclusive games. The 4GB limit is really holding them back right now, especially from really taking advantage of multiple cores. Imagine if they programmed a PC game so that each of four cores took advantage of as much as 2GB of RAM each. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

The only things I can see overcoming that limit changing is even higher resolution textures and even farther draw distances, neither of which is particularly a problem spot for PC games. We already have the highest resolution textures and furthest draw distances in the industry.

I thinking more along the lines of far more complex AI scripts, better physics, better collision detection and all that jazz.

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#218 anshul89
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You can combine all 3 consoles but online play, graphics, selection of controllers, mods, frame rates, customisation etc etc are all far superior on the PC.

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#220 MK-Professor
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="theseekar"]

All pc games are on consoles, but no console game is on PC

So, consoles, easilly

theseekar

I am getting tired with all this console gamers saying that consoles have more exclusives…


PC AAAe = 12, AAe = 77, Ae = 82
PS3 AAAe = 8, AAe = 12, Ae = 16
360 AAAe = 7, AAe = 13, Ae = 12

AAAe + AAe
PC = 89
PS3 = 20
360 = 20

Exclusives (from 11/15/05 to current)

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AriQpIFbPoEacGM1b0xxcGVucFQ3OFc4N3BNZmd2QkE&gid=0

Frankly, as a RPG player mainly, there is not a single game on PC for me, Witcher 2 is confirmed for consoles and that was over for PC

Whispered World which was the only other PC game i need, i can play on my non gaming laptop, i did not spend a penny on extra gaming PC hardware

As for consoles, well ican think of 15 exclusives i could not do without (Demon Soul, FF13vs, Fable 3, AlanWake, Gears 3, Xenoblades, Last Story, Last Guardian, GOW3 etc etc etc)

PC has really reached zero for me, and even adventures like Gray Matter is now coming to 360, which means soon there will be no PC gaming for me at all, will be like non existent

So you just saying that you ignore all the 89 (AAAe + AAe) pc exclusives...

AAAe + AAe

PC = 89 > PS3 = 20
PC = 89 > 360 = 20

PC have more and better exclusives and that is fact not an opinion.

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#221 br0kenrabbit  Online
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

I thinking more along the lines of far more complex AI scripts, better physics, better collision detection and all that jazz.

xDimMaK

You wouldn't exactly need to create and store more objects in memory to improve things like collision detection. That would just be bad programming practice. So the RAM is kind of irrelevant there. The kinds of things you can expect from more RAM is higher resolutions, more complex character models (or a higher quantity of character models), etc.

Furthermore, games nowadays are still generally bottlenecked by the graphics card, so throwing more RAM into the mix isn't going to change much anyway.

By collision detection what I mean is: a robe brushing up against a wall is different than a sword brushing up against the wall. Okay maybe that's more physics but you get what I'm saying. Like in Oblivion: sure you can move lots of stuff around but they all have the same weight and they're all solid.

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#222 lowe0
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By collision detection what I mean is: a robe brushing up against a wall is different than a sword brushing up against the wall. Okay maybe that's more physics but you get what I'm saying. Like in Oblivion: sure you can move lots of stuff around but they all have the same weight and they're all solid.

br0kenrabbit
That's rigid/soft body dynamics, not collision detection (though collision detection would certainly be a step in both).
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#223 Arach666
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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

Care to explain why that has never happened with any multiplatform game? :lol:

GioVela2010

O but it has more then once, Take a look at SC:Conviction, PC: 6.5 , 360: 8.0 ??? And you cant say its because it was a bad port. No excuses.

Bugs, glitches and connection issues, no voice or text chat in co-op...Try reading the review next time..

Then explain MW2,although you aren´t ,you have been dodging that one because you know that it scored lower because of higher standards.

So,thanks for proving that I was rigth.

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#224 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="GioVela2010"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] O but it has more then once, Take a look at SC:Conviction, PC: 6.5 , 360: 8.0 ??? And you cant say its because it was a bad port. No excuses.Arach666

Bugs, glitches and connection issues, no voice or text chat in co-op...Try reading the review next time..

Then explain MW2,although you aren´t ,you have been dodging that one because you know that it scored lower because of higher standards.

So,thanks for proving that I was rigth.

To be fair though, Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 on PC scored higher than their console counterparts on GS. There are notable advantages, but if the system having higher standards is be true, then wouldn`t the PC version get the same score regardless?
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#225 Domobomb
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To be fair though, Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 on PC scored higher than their console counterparts on GS. There are notable advantages, but if the system having higher standards is be true, then wouldn`t the PC version get the same score regardless?mo0ksi

This is true. The same would apply to Dragon Age: Origins.

But then MW2, and SC:C are contradictions.

Maybe we should all just agree GS reviews are inconsistent, and should not be used when proving a point, or making an argument.

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#226 Arach666
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]To be fair though, Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 on PC scored higher than their console counterparts on GS. There are notable advantages, but if the system having higher standards is be true, then wouldn`t the PC version get the same score regardless?Domobomb

This is true. The same would apply to Dragon Age: Origins.

But then MW2, and SC:C are contradictions.

Maybe we should all just agree GS reviews are inconsistent, and should not be used when proving a point, or making an argument.

Yeah,mo0ski has a point. I agree,GS scores are rather inconsistent.
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#227 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="Domobomb"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"]To be fair though, Metro 2033 and Just Cause 2 on PC scored higher than their console counterparts on GS. There are notable advantages, but if the system having higher standards is be true, then wouldn`t the PC version get the same score regardless?Arach666

This is true. The same would apply to Dragon Age: Origins.

But then MW2, and SC:C are contradictions.

Maybe we should all just agree GS reviews are inconsistent, and should not be used when proving a point, or making an argument.

Yeah,mo0ski has a point. I agree,GS scores are rather inconsistent.

Metro 2033 has SIGNIFICANT difference. Doesn't mean that the PC version of BC2 isn't way better because it got the same score , but Metro2033 stands out, not only because the graphics are amazing on PC, one of the best, but because the graphics on the 360 were sub-par.
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#228 Zerkrender
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It was very hard but I voted for PC gaming. I LOVE button mashers, I really do, but I doubt I'll still play them when they get to the point where I have to pay $5 for each attack. :| It's like my issue with free to play MMOs, there are actually free MMOs I have liked even MORE than WoW! But I still wouldn't play them because to get everything out of them will be 3x as expensive for one P2P MMO and the services and the communities are just simply terrible. Open platforms forever! :D
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#229 NVIDIATI
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Guys seriously just ignore Giovela2010 (m3boarder32)he's a bandodgerand afanboy who has ahistory ofhating PC.

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#230 AGMing
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PC gaming by a mile, love my PS3 but my PC blows it away. plus there are mods and the option of using a mouse + KB in its favor as well.

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#231 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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PC gaming must be boring if all these pc people have time to vote for this poll. I can sit here and vote for console gaming WHILE I type this. Heck, I can relax on a couch, type this, and play Super Street Fighter 4.

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#233 Puckhog04
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Console gaming IMO. Perfer all the exclusives on consoles, the feel of a controller in my hand, and the variety of genres on consoles. Plus, I was raised playing Consoles so I sorta just fell into it to begin with.

I enjoy both however. Both have their ups and downs.

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#235 Tannerr33
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Console gaming IMO. Perfer all the exclusives on consoles, the feel of a controller in my hand, and the variety of genres on consoles. Plus, I was raised playing Consoles so I sorta just fell into it to begin with.

I enjoy both however. Both have their ups and downs.

GioVela2010

You're right, if anything this thread proves that console gamers are playing games, and PC gamers have no games to play so they refresh gamespot all day.



Or PC gamers have more than 1 monitor and can play a game and surf the internet at the same time. (I multitask like that all the time)

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You're right, if anything this thread proves that console gamers are playing games, and PC gamers have no games to play so they refresh gamespot all day.

GioVela2010

That such a lame attempt at damage control. :lol:

I could of sworn I left third grade back in 1983. :roll:

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PC gaming must be boring if all these pc people have time to vote for this poll. I can sit here and vote for console gaming WHILE I type this. Heck, I can relax on a couch, type this, and play Super Street Fighter 4.

Heirren

I can do the same with a PC, but I promise you my screen is bigger than yours.

Soooo....yeah.

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#238 VanDammFan
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

PC gaming must be boring if all these pc people have time to vote for this poll. I can sit here and vote for console gaming WHILE I type this. Heck, I can relax on a couch, type this, and play Super Street Fighter 4.

br0kenrabbit

I can do the same with a PC, but I promise you my screen is bigger than yours.

Soooo....yeah.

Get a screen or use screen paint on the wall and put up frame around it before bragging..;) Like my 108" d.i.y..:) :)

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#239 br0kenrabbit  Online
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Get a screen or use screen paint on the wall and put up frame around it before bragging..;) Like my 108" d.i.y..:) :)

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Don't need to. I painted the wall in flat matte finish. Even with the lights on it looks good. And the reaon I won't put a frame up around is because I move the projector back and forth (it's on a rail on the ceiling) depending upon what I'm doing and the resolution I'm using. That's my HTPC but I play a few games on it as well, like IL2 and other such sims. Most other games I keep on my desk PC.

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#240 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

PC gaming must be boring if all these pc people have time to vote for this poll. I can sit here and vote for console gaming WHILE I type this. Heck, I can relax on a couch, type this, and play Super Street Fighter 4.

br0kenrabbit

I can do the same with a PC, but I promise you my screen is bigger than yours.

Soooo....yeah.

I used to have a projector, but I prefer using a plasma these days. I also like the audio to match up w/the visuals. Where is the sound coming from? The bonus the PS3 provides is its LPCM audio. One of the bonuses of blu ray.

--On a side note. Multiplats most of the time look/perform better on the 360(in comparison to the ps3), but most of the time it is almost negligable. The ps3 audio, on the other hand, blows the 360 out of the water.

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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

PC gaming must be boring if all these pc people have time to vote for this poll. I can sit here and vote for console gaming WHILE I type this. Heck, I can relax on a couch, type this, and play Super Street Fighter 4.

Heirren

I can do the same with a PC, but I promise you my screen is bigger than yours.

Soooo....yeah.

I used to have a projector, but I prefer using a plasma these days. I also like the audio to match up w/the visuals. Where is the sound coming from?

You can see my center channel speaker under the 'screen' on the floor. The right front speaker is in the cabinet to the right. Those are the only two you can see in that pic.

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#242 Timstuff
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Console gaming is more intuitive, PC gaming is more customizable. It all depends on what you want.
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#243 Avian005
Member since 2009 • 4112 Posts

Can't really decide. I have fun with all my systems.

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#244 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Can't really decide. I have fun with all my systems.

Avian005

Same, but having competition IN THE SAME ROOM is where any game succeeds most.

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#246 lordreaven
Member since 2005 • 7239 Posts

PC, why? This

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#247 ChiChiMonKilla
Member since 2007 • 2339 Posts

Pc gaming by far but I still like some of the games on console mostly ps3 games as I dont have a wii anymore.

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#248 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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PC, why? This

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That?! C'mon now, it is a proven fact that a large amount pc gamers will find that to be the case with ANY game.

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#249 lordreaven
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

PC, why? This

That?! C'mon now, it is a proven fact that a large amount pc gamers will find that to be the case with ANY game.

I don't see Sony, MS, or nintendo doing this.
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#250 deactivated-5b31d3729c1fa
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i love console gaming :D