Which route do you think that Rare will take the next Banjo-Kazooie game?

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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

they already made that, it was called banjo Pilot.

dragonfly110

it was still a good game for a racer. TBH iw as expecting it to be a load of shovelware, but I had a lot of fu n with that game.

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[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"] For the Gameboy Advance might I add.

gmc2u_64

it was still a good game for a racer. TBH iw as expecting it to be a load of shovelware, but I had a lot of fu n with that game.

did you ever play it? I think it would be cool if Rare made a racer like that on the XBLA but with all of there characters. ALthough I guess that wouldnt work theyd have to censor a lot of them....

They are going to make it a flying game. Because thier mentality is to NOT give gamers what they want.

How did Nuts and Bolts sell? If it didn't sell well, I doubt there will be a new one as sad as that sounds.

After seeing the sales of the last Banjo game I don't think will be seeing a new banjo any time soon, its not that it sold bad (sold about 500k) but compared to other Rare games this gen it didn't do to well, and then that with M$ not being to happy with the sales of Rare games means I don't think Banjo will be popping up any time soon.

They are going to make it a flying game. Because thier mentality is to NOT give gamers what they want.

Espada12

what are you talking about? Most of rares games this gen have been great, just because a lot of people (Im guessing you are included in that) didnt like Nuts and Bolts doesnt automatically make Rare a bad publisher that doesnt care about whether or not there fans like there games.

a. Platforming (Banjo-Kazooie & Banjo-Tooie).

b. Vehicles (Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts).

c. Other (FPS, RTS, etc).

I HOPE that Banjo-Kazooie 4 will be a Platformer. But based on Rare's feelings for the Franchise now, I (sadly) think that Rare will have Banjo-Kazooie 4 be a Vehicle game.

Discuss.

gmc2u_64

FPS for sure. you heard it here 1st

[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

a. Platforming (Banjo-Kazooie & Banjo-Tooie).

b. Vehicles (Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts).

c. Other (FPS, RTS, etc).

I HOPE that Banjo-Kazooie 4 will be a Platformer. But based on Rare's feelings for the Franchise now, I (sadly) think that Rare will have Banjo-Kazooie 4 be a Vehicle game.

Discuss.

821dan128

I doubt that they would do that they already have a triple A FPS franchise (IM talking about Perfect Dark of course, I doubt they are going to do anythign with Goldeneye since nintendo has partial ownership of it.)

FPS for sure. you heard it here 1st

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

They are going to make it a flying game. Because thier mentality is to NOT give gamers what they want.

dragonfly110

what are you talking about? Most of rares games this gen have been great, just because a lot of people (Im guessing you are included in that) didnt like Nuts and Bolts doesnt automatically make Rare a bad publisher that doesnt care about whether or not there fans like there games.

The follow ups for thier old IPS have been pretty bad, from PDZ to banjo. But don't take my word for it take theirs.

"To me, if you're just doing a game because of IP, that's not the right thing to do. If someone came up with some revolutionary idea for a new fighting game, yeah, we might think of resurrecting Killer Instinct. But what we're not gonna do is just say 'okay, there's this kind of vocal, fairly small vocal minority of real die-hard fans out there that want to see KI, so therefore, we should be doing KI.' That's not how we'd approach it."

Basically if they don't got a gimmick they ain't doing it. Lucky for banjo fans eh?

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

They are going to make it a flying game. Because thier mentality is to NOT give gamers what they want.

Espada12

what are you talking about? Most of rares games this gen have been great, just because a lot of people (Im guessing you are included in that) didnt like Nuts and Bolts doesnt automatically make Rare a bad publisher that doesnt care about whether or not there fans like there games.

The follow ups for thier old IPS have been pretty bad, from PDZ to banjo. But don't take my word for it take theirs.

"To me, if you're just doing a game because of IP, that's not the right thing to do. If someone came up with some revolutionary idea for a new fighting game, yeah, we might think of resurrecting Killer Instinct. But what we're not gonna do is just say 'okay, there's this kind of vocal, fairly small vocal minority of real die-hard fans out there that want to see KI, so therefore, we should be doing KI.' That's not how we'd approach it."

Basically if they don't got a gimmick they ain't doing it. Lucky for banjo fans eh?

innovation =/= gimmick

and even so, that is just cutting out 2 games this gen (which were still very good in my eyes and yes as I think everyone knows by now IVe been with Rare sincce the beginning.) there is still there other games this gen that are very marvelous, like Viva Pinata and Kameo both of these are great games that truley use the 360 for a next gen experience. and they arent only releasing entirly new games they are also porting old ones, lookat Banjo Kazooie and Tooie both were wonderful ports from the N64 and IM sure that Perfect Dark will be just as good if not better. But it isnt even on the 360 look at the DS they have Viva Pinata POcket Paradise and Diddy Kong Racing, a great game and a great N64 port. and on the VC they ahve there 3 donkey kong country games provided these were ported by nintendo as rare is no longer allowed to develop for a home Nintendo console but that isnt the point. aThe point is that Rare is still able to make great g ames whether it be new IP's sequels or simply ports refreshed for the new gen. Sorry I think that my fanboy is showing :oops:

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[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

a. Platforming (Banjo-Kazooie & Banjo-Tooie).

b. Vehicles (Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts).

c. Other (FPS, RTS, etc).

I HOPE that Banjo-Kazooie 4 will be a Platformer. But based on Rare's feelings for the Franchise now, I (sadly) think that Rare will have Banjo-Kazooie 4 be a Vehicle game.

Discuss.

dragonfly110

I doubt that they would do that they already have a triple A FPS franchise (IM talking about Perfect Dark of course, I doubt they are going to do anythign with Goldeneye since nintendo has partial ownership of it.)

FPS for sure. you heard it here 1st

no i rekon they will. it'll be like halo and you'll be able 2 use the vechiles and more from nuts and bolts.

they'll make him more bad and mature aswell

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[QUOTE="821dan128"]

I doubt that they would do that they already have a triple A FPS franchise (IM talking about Perfect Dark of course, I doubt they are going to do anythign with Goldeneye since nintendo has partial ownership of it.)

FPS for sure. you heard it here 1st

821dan128

no i rekon they will. it'll be like halo and you'll be able 2 use the vechiles and more from nuts and bolts.

they'll make him more bad and mature aswell

I get the feeling that this is all sarcasm but Ill play along and say that if they did that with any of there IP's it would be Conker not Banjo.

Seeing as Rare is intrigued by Natal, im thinking the next banjo game might be a Natal game... if not, i see them going back to platformingWaffle_Fish

*Gag*

a FPS shooter

Banjo will be in Unreal engine =P

quote me on that

Hopefully more Nuts & Bolts but with more varied mission design. The first two games seemed way too much like they were just straight up copying Mario 64... while Nuts & Bolts felt like a unique game.

foxhound_fox

I liked Banjo Kazooie a lot more. More special attacks, and also the transformations to progress through different areas of the game (courtesy of Mumbo)

Then Banjo Tooie took it a step further by introducing Wumba, and more moves including moves each character does seperately.

I thought there were way more gameplay elements in Banjo Kazooie than Super Mario 64.

After seeing the sales of the last Banjo game I don't think will be seeing a new banjo any time soon, its not that it sold bad (sold about 500k) but compared to other Rare games this gen it didn't do to well, and then that with M$ not being to happy with the sales of Rare games means I don't think Banjo will be popping up any time soon.

St_muscat

They marketed it to the wrong crowd.

There were a lot of Banjo Kazooie fans (still are), and after eight years they were still waiting. I'd put most of them within the 18-24 age group.

Yet Rare's advertising campaign consisted of commercials on Nickelodeon, and Lunchables boxes.........So it was bound to fail really. Wasn't marketed to the right group (the people that have been waiting for a new Banjo game forever)

[QUOTE="St_muscat"]

After seeing the sales of the last Banjo game I don't think will be seeing a new banjo any time soon, its not that it sold bad (sold about 500k) but compared to other Rare games this gen it didn't do to well, and then that with M$ not being to happy with the sales of Rare games means I don't think Banjo will be popping up any time soon.

treedoor

They marketed it to the wrong crowd.

There were a lot of Banjo Kazooie fans (still are), and after eight years they were still waiting. I'd put most of them within the 18-24 age group.

Yet Rare's advertising campaign consisted of commercials on Nickelodeon, and Lunchables boxes.........So it was bound to fail really. Wasn't marketed to the right group (the people that have been waiting for a new Banjo game forever)

Sad really, could have easily broken a million I reckon, but like you said they stuffed up the advertisement of it, also the fact that is was 360 only imo is another reason it didn't sell as well as it could have, I reckon that, that type of game would have faired better on Wii or probably even PS3 (if Rare wasn't owned by M$ of course), but even so it still sold well its just that other Rare IPs have sold better than it (Perfect Dark and Viva Pinata) so instead of a new banjo we'll see more of them. I'll be surprised if a new banjo is announced this gen.

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[QUOTE="St_muscat"]

After seeing the sales of the last Banjo game I don't think will be seeing a new banjo any time soon, its not that it sold bad (sold about 500k) but compared to other Rare games this gen it didn't do to well, and then that with M$ not being to happy with the sales of Rare games means I don't think Banjo will be popping up any time soon.

St_muscat

They marketed it to the wrong crowd.

There were a lot of Banjo Kazooie fans (still are), and after eight years they were still waiting. I'd put most of them within the 18-24 age group.

Yet Rare's advertising campaign consisted of commercials on Nickelodeon, and Lunchables boxes.........So it was bound to fail really. Wasn't marketed to the right group (the people that have been waiting for a new Banjo game forever)

Sad really, could have easily broken a million I reckon, but like you said they stuffed up the advertisement of it, also the fact that is was 360 only imo is another reason it didn't sell as well as it could have, I reckon that, that type of game would have faired better on Wii or probably even PS3 (if Rare wasn't owned by M$ of course), but even so it still sold well its just that other Rare IPs have sold better than it (Perfect Dark and Viva Pinata) so instead of a new banjo we'll see more of them. I'll be surprised if a new banjo is announced this gen.

but you forget the 2nd Viva Pinata (Trouble In Paradise) sold so terribly compared to the original it was removed from shelves within like a week. Nuts and bolts at the end of its month in the NPD ended up selling 500K which I think is prety good, thats equal to the sales of Fable 2 if Im correct is it not?

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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

They are going to make it a flying game. Because thier mentality is to NOT give gamers what they want.

Espada12

what are you talking about? Most of rares games this gen have been great, just because a lot of people (Im guessing you are included in that) didnt like Nuts and Bolts doesnt automatically make Rare a bad publisher that doesnt care about whether or not there fans like there games.

The follow ups for thier old IPS have been pretty bad, from PDZ to banjo. But don't take my word for it take theirs.

"To me, if you're just doing a game because of IP, that's not the right thing to do. If someone came up with some revolutionary idea for a new fighting game, yeah, we might think of resurrecting Killer Instinct. But what we're not gonna do is just say 'okay, there's this kind of vocal, fairly small vocal minority of real die-hard fans out there that want to see KI, so therefore, we should be doing KI.' That's not how we'd approach it."

Basically if they don't got a gimmick they ain't doing it. Lucky for banjo fans eh?

Rare sure is loosing my respect pretty fast...

A traditional platformer would be nice but if they go with the Nuts & Bolts formula again I wouldn't mind too much as Ireally enjoyed Nuts & Bolts.

I'll be honest. I don't HATE the Nuts & Bolts Formula (I actuelly think that it's decent), but it doesn't FIT properly with the Banjo-Kazooie Franchise. If Rare makes a new franchise for the Nuts & Bolts Formula (calling the Franchise a "Spiritual Sucessor" to Nuts & Bolts), then I could be excited.

hopefully to the grave when they get shut down

Rare sure has lost ALOT of Respect recently. Am I right?

Seeing as how poorly the third one was recieved critically and sales wise I would assume very very different then Nuts and Bolts. Heck who knows if they will even revisit it. Or maybe they may do something cool with Natal.Javy03

Platformer, but not the Mario 64 collect-a-thon like the first two.

I'm not bashing the first two games, I really love them, it's just in 2009 that this style would be very archaic and dull.

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Platformer, but not the Mario 64 collect-a-thon like the first two.

I'm not bashing the first two games, I really love them, it's just in 2009 that this style would be very archaic and dull.

karasill

Rare sure has lost ALOT of Respect recently. Am I right?

gmc2u_64

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Rare sure has lost ALOT of Respect recently. Am I right?

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

Rare sure has lost ALOT of Respect recently. Am I right?

gmc2u_64

[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

Rare sure has lost ALOT of Respect recently. Am I right?

gmc2u_64

Ill respect them if they decide to shut down their useless studio

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Right, and they won't get it back until they make another AAA game.All_that_is_Man

Ill respect them if they decide to shut down their useless studio

[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Right, and they won't get it back until they make another AAA game.mitu123

Is it REALLY asking much of Rare to make a PROPER sequel to Banjo-Tooie to have an satisfying end to the trilogy (just ONE last Banjo-Kazooie game (Platformer))?

Microsoft seems to ruin every rareware game it would just be the same better yet they might not make a banjo kazzoie 4 microsoft never did a sequel to any rareware game on any of there systems.

PLATFORMER I loved Nuts and Bolts, and its in my top 5 of '08, but I was and am disappointed we don't have Banjo Threeie.C-Lee

Let's all hope that Rare doesn't "Improve" (Nuts & Bolts) another of their Franchises. Am I right?

Well, the trend seems to be mixing genres. Banjo-Tooie is part-first-person-shooter, and Nuts and Bolts is part racing. My bet is that the next one will be fighting-oriented.NBSRDan

I don't think there will be a next Banjo game for a LONG time. Hoping for platforming but expecting the worst.Gamingcucumber

i hope they get powers like banjo be strength dude and kazooie will blow crap up and they can fly and be a war machine!!!!! like plant a bomb on a guys face and just watch!!!!!

i hope they get powers like banjo be strength dude and kazooie will blow crap up and they can fly and be a war machine!!!!! like plant a bomb on a guys face and just watch!!!!!

patzcool

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i hope they get powers like banjo be strength dude and kazooie will blow crap up and they can fly and be a war machine!!!!! like plant a bomb on a guys face and just watch!!!!!

gmc2u_64

y does everyone think that kazooie is so useless? SHe is the one that builds all the vehicles in the game.

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[QUOTE="patzcool"]

i hope they get powers like banjo be strength dude and kazooie will blow crap up and they can fly and be a war machine!!!!! like plant a bomb on a guys face and just watch!!!!!

dragonfly110

y does everyone think that kazooie is so useless? SHe is the one that builds all the vehicles in the game.

But I guese that Kazooie is 99.9% useless (.01% useful).

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[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]...atleast Kazooie would be somewhat useful from that idea.

gmc2u_64

y does everyone think that kazooie is so useless? SHe is the one that builds all the vehicles in the game.

But I guese that Kazooie is 99.9% useless (.01% useful).

so and your point is? Im not gonna make a huge argument out of this, but in a way in the past 2 (mainstream ones IM not including the 2 GBA ones) games banjo was pretty useless as well, all he did was walk and you could even have Kazooie do that if you wanted in Tooie tbh he only seemed useful in a few scenarios.

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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

y does everyone think that kazooie is so useless? SHe is the one that builds all the vehicles in the game.

dragonfly110

But I guese that Kazooie is 99.9% useless (.01% useful).

so and your point is? Im not gonna make a huge argument out of this, but in a way in the past 2 (mainstream ones IM not including the 2 GBA ones) games banjo was pretty useless as well, all he did was walk and you could even have Kazooie do that if you wanted in Tooie tbh he only seemed useful in a few scenarios.

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[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]Banjo could EASILY hold the wrench (thus Kazooie is useless).

But I guese that Kazooie is 99.9% useless (.01% useful).

gmc2u_64

so and your point is? Im not gonna make a huge argument out of this, but in a way in the past 2 (mainstream ones IM not including the 2 GBA ones) games banjo was pretty useless as well, all he did was walk and you could even have Kazooie do that if you wanted in Tooie tbh he only seemed useful in a few scenarios.

yeah but you only really used that a few times in the game.

also ftr Im just saying all this for arguments sake

im my opinion

Tooie>Kazooie>>>>>>>Nuts and Bolts>Pilot>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>GR