Who Actually Liked Mass Effect?

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#1 WINDWAKER1
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The first one was garbage and the second one was slightly less garbage.

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#2 mo0ksi
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Liked the original and loved the sequel. I've said my piece on each a while ago. Now all I can say is that I hope I'm still interested in gaming by the time the conclusion comes.
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#3 positivebalance
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"garbage"? it has a 91 on metacritic and got an 8.5 here. and i loved it, btw.

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#4 ManicAce
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Liked the first one and loved the sequel. ME2 might have been less of a RPG, but it was also less compromised and the better game overall.
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#5 Andrewlee
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I really liked Mass Effect, but I haven't played ME2 yet. Though I've heard that BioWare cut down the RPG elements in ME2, so I'm not sure I'm going to like it as much as ME1.

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#6 knight0151
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Troll confirmed.

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#7 Anjunaddict
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Who actually liked Windwaker? :Pjk
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#8 bobbetybob
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Hated ME, it's one of the only games I've played where there wasn't a single gameplay mechanic that didnt feel broken, horrible shooting, terrible driving, irritating 'choose every single option of inane dialogue' cutscenes, moving around the world was slower than pushing a monster truck up Everest due to horrible load times and the skills and levelling just felt crappy, I ended up just letting the game do it for me and then the game didn't even feel like an RPG. I'm not trolling either, I know other people liked it, and I can see why, it just isn't my kind of game at all. I'm intrigued by ME2 though because it sounds like they fixed a lot of these problems.
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#9 Quaker-w00ts
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Couldnt finish mass effect for the Mako totally ruined it for me and i shall never go back to that trash.

for the second one, ill buy when its a bargain like i did the first.

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#10 urdead18
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The first one was garbage and the second one was slightly less garbage.

WINDWAKER1
The first one was terrible and the second one was alright.
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#11 Jonas008
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"garbage"? it has a 91 on metacritic and got an 8.5 here. and i loved it, btw.

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96 ME2 metratic oh well i guess your saying mass effect 1.. but anyways the game is really good
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#12 Chutebox
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I liked both but enjoyed the first more.

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#13 fastr
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Troll confirmed.

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Ageed, its only goty so far
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#14 Miroku32
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Love them equally, Mass Effect is one of the new IPs of this generation that really is a great franchise. My only discomfort of the first one is that the main story is short and the second is that it feels more like a shooter than a rpg but after that I don't have many complaints. Can't wait for the third one.
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#15 urdead18
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[QUOTE="knight0151"]

Troll confirmed.

fastr
Ageed, its only goty so far

God of War 3?
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#16 cabose38
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The first one was good, but the second one is great. Mostly because of the story.

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#17 mo0ksi
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Troll confirmed.

knight0151
Some of you people really have a hard time accepting other opinions, don't you?
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#18 yokofox33
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If Mass Effect is "garbage" then I must absolutely love the stuff. The first one was great, and the 2nd one was awesome as well. I think I liked the first one just a tad bit more though if I had to choose.

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#19 The_Game21x
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Mass Effect 1 and 2 are among the best games released this generation as far as I'm concerned.

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#20 Elian2530
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Loved the first and love the second even more. Easily in my top 10 favorites.
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#21 88mphSlayer
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i've played the first game possibly a dozen times

i've played the second game 4 times

really enjoy both of them

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#22 Miroku32
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[QUOTE="knight0151"]

Troll confirmed.

mo0ksi
Some of you people really have a hard time accepting other opinions, don't you?

I can accept people's opinion, if you don't like ME it is ok, it is your opinion and we can't change it. I hate CoD, say it is a piece of garbage and that's my opinion, no one can change it.
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#23 jalexbrown
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I thought the first one was okay, but it was plagued by horrible glitches and bad design (shallow RPG elements, shallow TPS elements, Mako portions). I really tried to like Mass Effect, but when I hit a Mako portion that I couldn't beat because of clunky controls, I quit playing.
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#24 moistsandwich
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Loved both.... story was better in the 1st.... the game was just presented better overall in the sequel though... can't wait for the conclusion to the trilogy.

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#25 BigDaddyPOLO
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Are you kidding me it's the best RPG this gen.

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#26 mirriorman
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i never really like some parts in Me1 (haven'y played 2 yet) such as the elavator part

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#27 urdead18
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Are you kidding me it's the best RPG this gen.

BigDaddyPOLO
How can you even call it an RPG? The only stat leveling is the points you use at the end of a mission which only affect like 4 skills per character, the enviroments are super linear and there's no inventory system. The only RPG element it has is speech.
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#28 BigDaddyPOLO
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What a pathetic age in gaming when the only features that make an RPG an RPG is large lists of stats and an inventory system.

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#29 mo0ksi
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What a pathetic age in gaming when the only features that make an RPG an RPG is large lists of stats and an inventory system.

BigDaddyPOLO
Tell me about it. ME 2 exposed a lot of elitism in gamers, because it doesn't fit their archaic standards of what an RPG is supposed to be.
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#30 ThatOneP0ster
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I didin't care for the first game, ended up selling it a couple months ago. I'm sure the second one is great but I'm playing God of War 3 and Just Cause 2 on my PS3 to much to care about ME2.
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#31 fend_oblivion
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A solid (8.0) game. It's pretty decent, though I feel it's overrated. Before you flame, let me tell you why : The story - The story is made pretty clear to you in the beginning of the game. You pretty much know what you have to do right in the beginning of the game. [spoiler] In the case of Mass Effect 2, you know you have to stop the Collectors in what seems like a suicide mission. Objective? Form a well balanced party of specialized members and make sure you get new upgrades for your ship [/spoiler] And character development is way too little. [spoiler] The real development begins in their loyalty missions which I might add, is short. eg : Samara's daughter Morinth, is the central point in her loyalty mission.And Samara says you need to kill her. After you choose to/not to, mission done. What? [/spoiler] And not to mention : the usual "unexpected ally having ulterior motives of his/her own".

Also, I find most people have problems with FF 13 being linear when this game is also super linear. The "open" environments are mostly a giant square with barely anything in it other than ammo, or pieces for cover. And the gameplay feels like a stripped GeoW or Uncharted 2. Surely, the "RPG" elements don't really fit that well. This game could have been a TPS if it were not for the dialogue and story options. This game has more of an "identity crisis" than Ratchet and Clank : ToD.

When I was first played Mass Effect 2, I was highly impressed. Everything seemed fresh till you realize the faults. The Paragon/Renegade options are very limited. You can count on your fingers as to how many times they happen. It felt more like a gimmick than an actual choice.

I guess people were impressed with the possible permutations (like how your actions determines what happens in the third) but this game feels very.very stripped.

I played most of the WRPG "greats" like KotOR, Fallout 2, Planescape, D&D etc and I have yet to be impressed with any of them. Their stories aren't great at all. They felt brief, and in some cases, terrible. KotOR is an exception, with a great story but with terrible gameplay.

And another thing with games that give you the morality decision. The "Good or Bad" extremes should stop. What happened to neutrality? What if I want to be a nice guy to others, but if I come across abhorrent people with attitude, I want to kill them? Neutrality is missing.

My 2 cents, and please don't get offended by my opinion. It was a solid game, but a disappointment. Heck, almost all the next gen games have severely disappointed me :( And before you ask, I have high standards because of the great games that released especially of last gen.

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#32 heretrix
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They are 2 of my favorite games of all time. A lot of people's problems with both games are that they wanted it to or percieved it to be some thing it was not which was a hybrid. Whatever. Both games have great voice acting and the universe the ME series inhabits is awesome.

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#33 II_Seraphim_II
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I really didn't enjoy the first one...haven't played the second one yet.
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#34 SilentlyMad
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I do not like Mass Effect I LOVE it.
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#35 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Are you kidding me it's the best RPG this gen.

urdead18
How can you even call it an RPG? The only stat leveling is the points you use at the end of a mission which only affect like 4 skills per character, the enviroments are super linear and there's no inventory system. The only RPG element it has is speech.

Because God knows an inventory screen is the defining feature of an RPG. And if you want to talk linearity, I guess FFXIII isn't an RPG either. :roll:
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#36 psn8214
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Both are among my favorite games.

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#37 shadow_hosi
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they are both amazing games TC is just a troll
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#38 urdead18
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[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Are you kidding me it's the best RPG this gen.

Verge_6
How can you even call it an RPG? The only stat leveling is the points you use at the end of a mission which only affect like 4 skills per character, the enviroments are super linear and there's no inventory system. The only RPG element it has is speech.

Because God knows an inventory screen is the defining feature of an RPG. And if you want to talk linearity, I guess FFXIII isn't an RPG either. :roll:

It's certaintly one of them. There's nothing besides the speech portion of Mass Effect 2 that defines it as an RPG. Oh, and don't say that an RPG is a game where you take on the role of a character or something, because that means every game is an RPG.
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#39 urdead18
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they are both amazing games TC is just a troll shadow_hosi
Yeah, he has an opinion that differs from your own and he's automatically a troll.

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#40 heretrix
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[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

What a pathetic age in gaming when the only features that make an RPG an RPG is large lists of stats and an inventory system.

mo0ksi

Tell me about it. ME 2 exposed a lot of elitism in gamers, because it doesn't fit their archaic standards of what an RPG is supposed to be.

It isn't even eliteism, it's just people being extremely narrow minded. It seems like if a game is a hybrid, automatically it gets criticized for what it ISN'T instead of what it is.

Most hybrids lack the depth of any of the elements it is combining, but that's the point, it's merging 2 different disciplines, which are usually streamlined and creating something different.If the elements aren't streamlined, the whole thing can become one cumbersome mess.

The first Mass Effect's problem was that at the outset, it was a 3rd person tactical shooter that played like an RPG. I felt the design shift of the second game better represented what the original gameplay should have been, which is why many people feel that the sequel is a better game.

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#41 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="urdead18"] How can you even call it an RPG? The only stat leveling is the points you use at the end of a mission which only affect like 4 skills per character, the enviroments are super linear and there's no inventory system. The only RPG element it has is speech.

Because God knows an inventory screen is the defining feature of an RPG. And if you want to talk linearity, I guess FFXIII isn't an RPG either. :roll:

It's certaintly one of them. There's nothing besides the speech portion of Mass Effect 2 that defines it as an RPG. Oh, and don't say that an RPG is a game where you take on the role of a character or something, because that means every game is an RPG.

"A role-playing game (RPG) is a broad family of games in which players assume the roles of characters, or take control of one or more avatars, in a fictional setting. Actions taken within the game succeed or fail according to a formal system of rules and guidelines" Huh, fits ME2 to a T. Notice the 'broad family' portion. There are more RPG types than the one you think is the sole RPG in existence. Cheerio. :)
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#42 Ninja-Bear
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Is there a secret campaign being fought right now to make Mass Effect 2 be accepted on System Wars as 'over rated'? Like the same thing people did with Halo. It's an amazing game, one of the best this generation. If you dont like it fine, but that doesn't make it 'garbage'. If Mass Effect 2 is garbage, 80% of games released are the worst pieces of software ever made.
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#43 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="urdead18"] How can you even call it an RPG? The only stat leveling is the points you use at the end of a mission which only affect like 4 skills per character, the enviroments are super linear and there's no inventory system. The only RPG element it has is speech.urdead18
Because God knows an inventory screen is the defining feature of an RPG. And if you want to talk linearity, I guess FFXIII isn't an RPG either. :roll:

There's nothing besides the speech portion of Mass Effect 2 that defines it as an RPG.

There is an inventory and a leveling system in ME 2.

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#44 Ninja-Bear
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[QUOTE="urdead18"] It's certaintly one of them. There's nothing besides the speech portion of Mass Effect 2 that defines it as an RPG. Oh, and don't say that an RPG is a game where you take on the role of a character or something, because that means every game is an RPG.

Why do you define an RPG as a game with an inventory system? Isn't that kinda narrow-minded? An RPG is a game whereby the focus is the characters, the universe and the story. So no, not every game where you play as a character is an RPG. Halo isn't an RPG because the focus is on shooting things. It's a shooter. Mario isn't an RPG because the focus is on jumping and platforming. Mass Effect 2 IS an RPG because the whole selling point of the game and the manner in which you experience and enjoy it is through the interaction with the game's various characters and environments. I honestly dont see how taking out a cumbersome (and very unrealistic) inventory system somehow changes the genre of the game. And besides, it DOES have an inventory you just have to return to your quarters on the Normandy to access it which is much more realistic and less cumbersome than sifting through a massive list of items which you're supposedly carrying on your person at all times.
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#45 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="knight0151"]

Troll confirmed.

fastr

Ageed, its only goty so far

Bayonetta and GOW3 are both easily candidates as well.

On topic, Mass Effect was good, Mass Effect 2 was really good.

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#46 heretrix
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[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]they are both amazing games TC is just a troll urdead18

Yeah, he has an opinion that differs from your own and he's automatically a troll.

It would have help the TC if he actually had included something more than an inflammatory statement of the games quality. That sort of makes him a troll. It's quite alright to have an opinion that is backed up by an explanation of why you feel the way you do. If not, then you are pretty much asking for people to call you out.

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#47 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="fastr"][QUOTE="knight0151"]

Troll confirmed.

Lionheart08

Ageed, its only goty so far

Bayonetta and GOW3 are both easily candidates as well.

On topic, Mass Effect was good, Mass Effect 2 was really good.

And Heavy Rain.
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#48 mgkennedy5
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I loved both!
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#49 padaporra
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I loved the first one has I loved other games. It had a special place in my collection, but among many others.
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However, ME2 is alone in the top.

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#50 Cloud567kar
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Both some of my favourite games.