Who Actually Liked Mass Effect?

I liked both to be honest.

are the people here blind, i mean it's illogical to score 91 on metacritic and be ''garbage'' Wings_008

[QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Are you kidding me it's the best RPG this gen.

urdead18

fortunately, the speech/action selection is the only rpg element that matters. if stat points and 'levelling up' are seriously rpg elements then madden is an rpg.

[QUOTE="urdead18"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]

Are you kidding me it's the best RPG this gen.

CaptainHarley

fortunately, the speech/action selection is the only rpg element that matters. if stat points and 'levelling up' are seriously rpg elements then madden is an rpg.

[QUOTE="Wings_008"]are the people here blind, i mean it's illogical to score 91 on metacritic and be ''garbage'' jalexbrown

no, its fine to not like the games, but objectively speaking both were high quality and denying this is weird. for example, i consider wow to be one of the lamest, most boring games ive ever played but objectively i can recognize it is a well-structured and finely made piece of software. i think it sucks, but its certainly not a low quality game. its entirely possible to recognize a games quality while at the same time absolutely hating it.

anyway bayonetta is still goty to me up to this point.

[QUOTE="CaptainHarley"]

[QUOTE="urdead18"] How can you even call it an RPG? The only stat leveling is the points you use at the end of a mission which only affect like 4 skills per character, the enviroments are super linear and there's no inventory system. The only RPG element it has is speech.jalexbrown

fortunately, the speech/action selection is the only rpg element that matters. if stat points and 'levelling up' are seriously rpg elements then madden is an rpg.

[QUOTE="CaptainHarley"]

[QUOTE="urdead18"] How can you even call it an RPG? The only stat leveling is the points you use at the end of a mission which only affect like 4 skills per character, the enviroments are super linear and there's no inventory system. The only RPG element it has is speech.jalexbrown

fortunately, the speech/action selection is the only rpg element that matters. if stat points and 'levelling up' are seriously rpg elements then madden is an rpg.

have you ever played prime time adventures, cold city, mountain witch or amber? i can assure you they are all more 'rpg' than any video game, ever, and some of them literally have no stats, inventory, or much of ANYTHING to track.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="CaptainHarley"]

fortunately, the speech/action selection is the only rpg element that matters. if stat points and 'levelling up' are seriously rpg elements then madden is an rpg.

mo0ksi

Well...no, the inventory system doesn't have to be cluttered; it could most certainly be a well-designed inventory system.

[QUOTE="Wings_008"]are the people here blind, i mean it's illogical to score 91 on metacritic and be ''garbage'' jalexbrown

Welcome to SW where it is wrong to have an opinion that deviates from the majority. And it has nothing to do with being "blind", it's just a matter of different taste or personal opinion.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="CaptainHarley"]

fortunately, the speech/action selection is the only rpg element that matters. if stat points and 'levelling up' are seriously rpg elements then madden is an rpg.

CaptainHarley

have you ever played prime time adventures, cold city, mountain witch or amber? i can assure you they are all more 'rpg' than any video game, ever, and some of them literally have no stats, inventory, or much of ANYTHING to track.

[QUOTE="CaptainHarley"]

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"] You're joking, right? It's not one thing or the other, but the whole combination, that makes an RPG what it is. If you remove just one, then - as they say - the house of cards falls down.jalexbrown

have you ever played prime time adventures, cold city, mountain witch or amber? i can assure you they are all more 'rpg' than any video game, ever, and some of them literally have no stats, inventory, or much of ANYTHING to track.

great argument, 10/10, you must be a professor or something

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"]they are both amazing games TC is just a troll urdead18

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="Wings_008"]are the people here blind, i mean it's illogical to score 91 on metacritic and be ''garbage'' fend_oblivion

Welcome to SW where it is wrong to have an opinion that deviates from the majority. And it has nothing to do with being "blind", it's just a matter of different taste or personal opinion.

It would help if the TC gave us a little more to work with than just stating the game is "garbage." He did not give any reasons at all. No real discussion can be had besides a back and forth "it's good" and "it's bad." Also, there is a difference between not liking a game and calling it garbage.

Judging by the ill effort put into making this thread, TC is a troll.

[QUOTE="jalexbrown"][QUOTE="CaptainHarley"]

have you ever played prime time adventures, cold city, mountain witch or amber? i can assure you they are all more 'rpg' than any video game, ever, and some of them literally have no stats, inventory, or much of ANYTHING to track.

CaptainHarley

great argument, 10/10, you must be a professor or something

I thought they were good games, but I'm getting tired of the whole rinse and repeat Bioware seems to be doing with all their games.

i hated both with a passion, never understood how can anyone like those games

are the people here blind, i mean it's illogical to score 91 on metacritic and be ''garbage'' Wings_008

so you think that everyone has to like a game because it got a high score on Metacritic? :|

I love both of them, Mass effect/2 is easy two of the best games this generation.

I liked both

[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

i hated both with a passion, never understood how can anyone like those games

Stringerboy

Anyone with good taste obviously. Something which you clearly lack.

[QUOTE="da_illest101"]

i hated both with a passion, never understood how can anyone like those games

Stringerboy

Anyone with good taste obviously. Something which you clearly lack.

I loved both, the first one was better than the second (story wise).

Mass Effect 1 and 2 are among the best games released this generation as far as I'm concerned.

The_Game21x

Loved them both.

both wins by a landslide lol

Who actually liked Uncharted? 8)

Considering how much both sold, a lot of people.

I think the combat is far too easy and the plot is generic. The characters in 2 were FAR better than 1 (ashley being the ugliest/weirdest looking human ever concieved). But, the blue people and the the robot face people (quarians?) are stupidly designed and look weird. The krogans, and whatever races thane and garrus were, look pretty friggen sweet. 2 was decent, 1 was awful.

they were both great games from a great developer who put alot of itme into the story characters and gameplay. i know its not some peoples cup of tea, but lets all be honest you could do alot worse in terms of rpgs over mass effect

Do people really think they can convince the crowd that they're "cooler" than the average gamer by defying the concensus?

I mean these kind of topics are getting more played out than Tony Hawk, Dynasty Warriors, and Madden Football combined :roll:

Do people really think they can convince the crowd that they're "cooler" than the average gamer by defying the concensus?

I mean these kind of topics are getting more played out than Tony Hawk, Dynasty Warriors, and Madden Football combined :roll:

AdobeArtist

Woah, don't you think that's a bit too much? This thread is about voicing your opinion, not about being "cooler". People will always disagree with things, don't you know that?

I think the combat is far too easy and the plot is generic. The characters in 2 were FAR better than 1 (ashley being the ugliest/weirdest looking human ever concieved). But, the blue people and the the robot face people (quarians?) are stupidly designed and look weird. The krogans, and whatever races thane and garrus were, look pretty friggen sweet. 2 was decent, 1 was awful.

WINDWAKER1

Do people really think they can convince the crowd that they're "cooler" than the average gamer by defying the concensus?

I mean these kind of topics are getting more played out than Tony Hawk, Dynasty Warriors, and Madden Football combined :roll:

AdobeArtist

If I wanted to make myself feel cool i wouldn't be on a video game forum

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

I think the combat is far too easy and the plot is generic. The characters in 2 were FAR better than 1 (ashley being the ugliest/weirdest looking human ever concieved). But, the blue people and the the robot face people (quarians?) are stupidly designed and look weird. The krogans, and whatever races thane and garrus were, look pretty friggen sweet. 2 was decent, 1 was awful.

MethodManFTW

Yea i played both. I forgot about jack, i dunno what they were thinking putting her in. Worst character by far, and I hated ashley. Tali just looks too weird, and she sounds really nasaly. The game is far too easy if you play on normal. I played insanity too, and I still didn't think it was that hard. AP ammo and the nuke gun are just godly.

Both games are fantastic.

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Do people really think they can convince the crowd that they're "cooler" than the average gamer by defying the concensus?

I mean these kind of topics are getting more played out than Tony Hawk, Dynasty Warriors, and Madden Football combined :roll:

fend_oblivion

Woah, don't you think that's a bit too much? This thread is about voicing your opinion, not about being "cooler". People will always disagree with things, don't you know that?

It just seems to be a fad around here. I do realize that not everybody will like certain massively popular games like everybody else. But even so, seems like some people have to go out of their way to undermine a game that qualifies as among the greats. And I say qualify, because it possesses qualities which are measurable apart from preference and opinion.

A person's taste in visuals may vary from realistic to cel shaded, but the production quality of the visuals are measurable and not based on opinion. The same can be said of audio in music and dialog, or how cohesive the story is even if someone just didn't like its content, the balance and structure of the gameplay mechanics of the given genre, and so on.

And look at how TC tries to nit pick the game to try and make his point. He takes two of the most minor side quests (the doctor's and chef's fetch quest) and tries to revolve the mission structures of the game around that. He also complains its short, actually mentioning only the recruitment missions, and then going on to the Endgame. It sounds like he didn't play any of the Loyalty missions, which technically count as side quests which you don't have to take to get to the final mission. But they provide some amazing character development that fleshes out the story and delves even deeper into Mass Effect's universe and lore. Other side quests like what you can take on for Liara provide variety in the gameplay from just shooting and fighting enemies, where you can opt to go on recon and intelligence gathering missions.

But then its easy to make a game look bad when you simplify and generalize, and some people need to rely on that fallable tactic to try and "prove" that their opinion is valid, against the greater concensus.