who got shafted the most this gen: sheep, lemmings, or cows?

Sheep... but they didn't seem to notice at all.

fadersdream

I would say lems and sheep equally. Casual became their king, with one dropping exclusives to practically zip.ispeakfact

Lems because Microsoft screwed them over by focusing on Kinect, so all Lems got is Halo, Gears and Forza.

Also Microsoft is forcing Lems to pay £40 to play online. They are basically paying for nothing.

This is actually a toughie. I'd say Lems, since Sheep at least had the DS to fall back on.

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Sheep... but they didn't seem to notice at all.

Nintendo_Ownes7

[QUOTE="fadersdream"]

Sheep... but they didn't seem to notice at all.

Nintendo_Ownes7

I would say Sheep and Lems.

1. Sheep - all the BS talk about Wii getting more 3rd Party suport NEVER happened :lol: At the end, Wii sales have slowed signigicantly and the hype train has derailed :lol:
2. Lemmings - the RROD - buyinga 360 multiple times and top of that paying for Live, the most severely SHAFTED of the group. The only redeeming qualities are 3rd party support and very few exclusives. At the end of the day, desperate Lemmings end up making countless Alt New Accounts 24/7 just to bash Sony because out of FEAR, JELLY, FEAR and JELLY, because Sony has gained momentum and had a slow start, and astoshingly gained excellent 3rd party support and exclusives.

PC gamers, because keyboard and mouse are sooo yesterdayhippiesanta

i change my answer to hermits. they miss out on playing games with friends locally and stay in their rooms all day.ZumaJones07

true story.

the other day my buddy rented starhawk and was all excited to play it.

he puts it in and it asked him for his online pass or cash so he could play it.

my question to sw is, why does ms get called out for charging for online yet sony does the same stuff and nobody acts like it is any big deal?

true story.

the other day my buddy rented starhawk and was all excited to play it.

he puts it in and it asked him for his online pass or cash so he could play it.

my question to sw is, why does ms get called out for charging for online yet sony does the same stuff and nobody acts like it is any big deal?

Riverwolf007

true story.

the other day my buddy rented starhawk and was all excited to play it.

he puts it in and it asked him for his online pass or cash so he could play it.

my question to sw is, why does ms get called out for charging for online yet sony does the same stuff and nobody acts like it is any big deal?

Riverwolf007

Because PS3 fans like DRM

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

true story.

the other day my buddy rented starhawk and was all excited to play it.

he puts it in and it asked him for his online pass or cash so he could play it.

my question to sw is, why does ms get called out for charging for online yet sony does the same stuff and nobody acts like it is any big deal?

Bigboi500

for those of us that rent games there seems to be little difference.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

true story.

the other day my buddy rented starhawk and was all excited to play it.

he puts it in and it asked him for his online pass or cash so he could play it.

my question to sw is, why does ms get called out for charging for online yet sony does the same stuff and nobody acts like it is any big deal?

Riverwolf007

for those of us that rent games there seems to be little difference.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

true story.

the other day my buddy rented starhawk and was all excited to play it.

he puts it in and it asked him for his online pass or cash so he could play it.

my question to sw is, why does ms get called out for charging for online yet sony does the same stuff and nobody acts like it is any big deal?

Raymundo_Manuel

Because PS3 fans like DRM

Well, 360 owners got shafted hardest IMO.

Out of PC, PS3, and 360 the 360 uses the least dedicated servers for its AAA games. That means the actual nuts and bolts of multiplayer is the lowest quality on Xbox. And you pay for it too. They were also forced to pay for DLC everyone else got for free because Microsoft thought they should (COD4, Left 4 Dead, TF2).

Owning a 360 and being proud of it means you're proud to have bought into a closed platform where the company running it has no problem going between you and the developer, taking free content the developer wanted to give to you, and then slapping a price sticker on it. Lemmings have it worst, just as hermits have it best.

Myounage

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

true story.

the other day my buddy rented starhawk and was all excited to play it.

he puts it in and it asked him for his online pass or cash so he could play it.

my question to sw is, why does ms get called out for charging for online yet sony does the same stuff and nobody acts like it is any big deal?

BibiMaghoo

Because PS3 fans like DRM

i can totally see why it is a stupid argument and all but at the very base the accusation has always been ms holding multiplayer hostage and i see little difference in both companies tactics of pay us money or you don't get to pay. (ms just charges more)

also i have never been against online passes because i think devs get screwed pretty badly over the used market but once again i have to say that once all is said and done charging is charging.

[QUOTE="Myounage"]

Well, 360 owners got shafted hardest IMO.

Out of PC, PS3, and 360 the 360 uses the least dedicated servers for its AAA games. That means the actual nuts and bolts of multiplayer is the lowest quality on Xbox. And you pay for it too. They were also forced to pay for DLC everyone else got for free because Microsoft thought they should (COD4, Left 4 Dead, TF2).

Owning a 360 and being proud of it means you're proud to have bought into a closed platform where the company running it has no problem going between you and the developer, taking free content the developer wanted to give to you, and then slapping a price sticker on it. Lemmings have it worst, just as hermits have it best.

AmnesiaHaze

maybe it is silly to care about it but i like it and makes gaming so much simpler, faster and streamlined.

the sw myth that we are talking about cute purses and boys while we all play a bunch of seperate games is nothing but bullshyt.

[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

Because PS3 fans like DRM

Riverwolf007

i can totally see why it is a stupid argument and all but at the very base the accusation has always been ms holding multiplayer hostage and i see little difference in both companies tactics of pay us money or you don't get to pay. (ms just charges more)

also i have never been against online passes because i think devs get screwed pretty badly over the used market but once again i have to say that once all is said and done charging is charging.

Of course there is a difference. Charging is charging?

Sony is charging for the game, as is anyone who is selling a game. The online pass is there way of charging people for the game, as a used game buyer or renter hasn't bought anything from them.

I don't like online passes, nor do I particularly like any of the tactics used by these companies to attack used games, but the online pass is pretty easy to justify. That being said, games that use p2p online such as Uncharted 3 shouldn't be using these things, as the online isn't even a service at that point.

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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] Yeah man, it's not like any 360 games have onlines passes aswell as require a gold fee. Silly Cows :lol: BibiMaghoo

i can totally see why it is a stupid argument and all but at the very base the accusation has always been ms holding multiplayer hostage and i see little difference in both companies tactics of pay us money or you don't get to pay. (ms just charges more)

also i have never been against online passes because i think devs get screwed pretty badly over the used market but once again i have to say that once all is said and done charging is charging.

this is not one of the normal sw hypothetical arguments.

this was a real world kind of thing in which my buddy was all hyped to play starhawk rented it and could not play it.

i think sw has a tendency to give hypothetical doom and gloom shyt a priority while ignoring actual real world consequences.

in the situation that i ran into the entirety of the problem was here was a game sitting in the system and to play it it required a fee to be paid.

ms being worse and xbl being a rip was not a part of it, no matter what sort of gyp xbl is we were sitting there with an unplayable game.

Of course there is a difference. Charging is charging?

Sony is charging for the game, as is anyone who is selling a game. The online pass is there way of charging people for the game, as a used game buyer or renter hasn't bought anything from them.

I don't like online passes, nor do I particularly like any of the tactics used by these companies to attack used games, but the online pass is pretty easy to justify. That being said, games that use p2p online such as Uncharted 3 shouldn't be using these things, as the online isn't even a service at that point.

Pug-Nasty

does ms get any credit for this or are they still just as evil while we turn a blind eye to resistence, uncharted, socom, ratchet and clank, twisted metal and whichever else that are all huge titles for sony and all have passes.

(also i'm just doing this from memory so if some of those are not 1st party then my bad just point them out)

[QUOTE="Raymundo_Manuel"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

true story.

the other day my buddy rented starhawk and was all excited to play it.

he puts it in and it asked him for his online pass or cash so he could play it.

my question to sw is, why does ms get called out for charging for online yet sony does the same stuff and nobody acts like it is any big deal?

BibiMaghoo

Because PS3 fans like DRM

You're right, I should have specified fanboys given the fact that it is Sony themselves pushing the DRM.

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

[QUOTE="Myounage"]

Well, 360 owners got shafted hardest IMO.

Out of PC, PS3, and 360 the 360 uses the least dedicated servers for its AAA games. That means the actual nuts and bolts of multiplayer is the lowest quality on Xbox. And you pay for it too. They were also forced to pay for DLC everyone else got for free because Microsoft thought they should (COD4, Left 4 Dead, TF2).

Owning a 360 and being proud of it means you're proud to have bought into a closed platform where the company running it has no problem going between you and the developer, taking free content the developer wanted to give to you, and then slapping a price sticker on it. Lemmings have it worst, just as hermits have it best.

maybe it is silly to care about it but i like it and makes gaming so much simpler, faster and streamlined.

the sw myth that we are talking about cute purses and boys while we all play a bunch of seperate games is nothing but bullshyt.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"] but it has teh crossgamechat , so its worth the payment :D

AmnesiaHaze

maybe it is silly to care about it but i like it and makes gaming so much simpler, faster and streamlined.

the sw myth that we are talking about cute purses and boys while we all play a bunch of seperate games is nothing but bullshyt.

hell, if i wanted to boil the water out of the creek behind my house i could stop getting ripped off by the water company.

(btw, those ****ers don't even read the meter anymore, they just send a bill based on what month it is and what typical water usage is and what they claim is typical useage is a load of crap)

Sheeps by far , the Wii will go down as the most successful POS in gaming history.

Cows, such a nice start... Very good service... Best multip versions... Non mediocre exclusives... (sarcasm?)

Oh yeah and they have good movies.

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Of course there is a difference. Charging is charging?

Sony is charging for the game, as is anyone who is selling a game. The online pass is there way of charging people for the game, as a used game buyer or renter hasn't bought anything from them.

I don't like online passes, nor do I particularly like any of the tactics used by these companies to attack used games, but the online pass is pretty easy to justify. That being said, games that use p2p online such as Uncharted 3 shouldn't be using these things, as the online isn't even a service at that point.

Riverwolf007

does ms get any credit for this or are they still just as evil while we turn a blind eye to resistence, uncharted, socom, ratchet and clank, twisted metal and whichever else that are all huge titles for sony and all have passes.

(also i'm just doing this from memory so if some of those are not 1st party then my bad just point them out)

Well, I don't think it's completely justified, since players are left with no way to quality check an online game before purcahsing it unless there is a demo, which there usually isn't.

The problem with all these attempts from the games industry to secure more money for their work is their level of service is usually a hair above dogsh!t.

On solution to these online codes could very well be a few hours of playtime before the code is needed. They could tie it to the console itself rather than online account.

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All fanboys got shafted this gen because they were too stupid by being fanboys.

Though I will say that 360 fanboys are definately the most upset and jealous.

OB-47

That's only at this stage. Remember Sony fans in the first few years?

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

All fanboys got shafted this gen because they were too stupid by being fanboys.

Though I will say that 360 fanboys are definately the most upset and jealous.

dracolich55

That's only at this stage. Remember Sony fans in the first few years?

I feel it's lems since MS shifted focus from core to casual Kinect(lol) garbage. Heil68

Definitely Nintendo fans. The Wii just had so little for a serious gamer. I was a Nintendo fan until this gen. The Wii had so few games that it was like opening a treasure chest by the time I got a PS3.

Ancient Aliens