Who here actually believes The wii remote is a gimmick and should`ve been made

The Wiimote hasn't even proven to be usefull in ALL GENRES. Which is pathetic and practically contradicts Nintendo's marketing strategy: Offering a "new way to play games.":lol:

The Wii hardware is a joke :lol: Words can't describe how deficient the Wii hardware is. No wonder most of 3rd party support would rather concentrate on 360, PS3 and PC.

Saying the Wiimote isa gimmick by selling the Wii is the same as blu ray being a gimmick for the PS3.lild1425

i wouldnt say blu-ray is a gimmick, but definately a non-necessary add-on
not to mention that it drove up the price of the ps3 as well

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

"100% wii hater"

I think that gets rid of what little credibility (Well there was actually none to begin with) that you had.

TheJuiceyBar

Right, because Nintendo is FORCING everyone that buys a Wii to playminigames.

[QUOTE="iunderstand"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Agreed, its totally overated as it is and there's superior motion sensing technology out there.

It was only really made for the failing Japanese market to begin with anyway. Its not needed and often leads to worse control than a good, reliable dual-analogue controller that fits every type of game.

tomarlyn

You see, when come into a thread and defend an argument like "I just want to put an end to all this naked." it lowers your credibility as well. If you want to hate on the Wii, that's fine but supporting people like this makes you look bad as well.

I don't care if he's Hitler's grandson I agree with what he's saying.

Live with it, its my opinion and I have a Wii to know.

Your statements are not equal to fact therefore making your statements purely opinionated unless there is a reliable source to back up those things you said.

Without any reliable source to back up your statements, those are not facts and not true. Its only true for you and your fantasy. Its not reality. Live with it.

To be honest I don't like the wiimote. When it was announced I thought t might be adecent idea, but as it came along I started to dislike it. What if I don't want to wave the Wiimote around and want to just play games. Correct if me if I'm wrong but you can use a regular pad right? But whats the point in that, then its just a GC with slightly better graphics and less quality games then the 360 and PS3. Its missing some GREAT muliplats because of the wiimote. How would Assassins Creed work on the Wiimote?

However you cannot deny that it is selling alot. However this is because non-gamers can get into it because at first it is pretty fun. All the parents want to buy it because it is a family system. However for us, hardcore gamers there is very little to like. I know at leastfour friends who have or are going to sell the Wii because its lost its initial flare for them.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"]

:lol: Tomarlyn: Do you really have nothing better to do than skulk around saying how much you hate the Wii and how Nintendo let you down, and how they are ruining gaming? OMG, I'm sure you're in EVERY Wii bashing thread I see getting in the brawl with some diggs in the Wii's side...

Hexagon_777

You don't seem to have anything better to do than cry about every post I make, which isn't always about the Wii FYI.

Try being a little more mature and debate my posts instead of the relentless ''your are teh fail'', doesn't do you any favours. Its system wars, if you don't like it then get out.

Who's crying? Probably anybody playing Lair but ANYWAY. The Wiimote isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something that is not need but added to try and sell it on. If the Wii didn't have the motion controls.. then its just a 360/Ps3 with less power and more sexiness.

The Wiimote was only needed in the Japanese market not the west, they were falling out of love with traditional hardcore gaming. Not here, thats why very few gamers other than sheep actually like it a great deal this way. Thats why people call it a gimmick here, because nobody asked for it, DA is more reliable and just fine.

And yes your constant tears are quite sad, instead of trying to have a conversation. But your trying now so kudos.

The Wiimote was only needed in the Japanese market? And who cares if nobody asked for it? It's extremely successful in Europe and North America. Seems more like people had to be shown what they really want or it wouldn't be so successful if it were unwanted and unasked for. That applies more to the PS3.

Gamers didn't ask for it (apart from sheep). I don't personally don't care if casuals and their moms are loving it, because they have completely different standards and requirements to begin with. Dual Analogue beats it as a all-round controller.

Tell that to the 10+ million who bought the console? Honestly why do you care? Do you secretly get paid by Microsoft for "defending" their console? Do you honestly think fanboys like yourself change peoples everyday lives? Is being a fanboy worth it? What benefits do you get?

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"]

:lol: Tomarlyn: Do you really have nothing better to do than skulk around saying how much you hate the Wii and how Nintendo let you down, and how they are ruining gaming? OMG, I'm sure you're in EVERY Wii bashing thread I see getting in the brawl with some diggs in the Wii's side...

tomarlyn

You don't seem to have anything better to do than cry about every post I make, which isn't always about the Wii FYI.

Try being a little more mature and debate my posts instead of the relentless ''your are teh fail'', doesn't do you any favours. Its system wars, if you don't like it then get out.

Who's crying? Probably anybody playing Lair but ANYWAY. The Wiimote isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something that is not need but added to try and sell it on. If the Wii didn't have the motion controls.. then its just a 360/Ps3 with less power and more sexiness.

The Wiimote was only needed in the Japanese market not the west, they were falling out of love with traditional hardcore gaming. Not here, thats why very few gamers other than sheep actually like it a great deal this way. Thats why people call it a gimmick here, because nobody asked for it, DA is more reliable and just fine.

And yes your constant tears are quite sad, instead of trying to have a conversation. But your trying now so kudos.

The Wiimote was only needed in the Japanese market? And who cares if nobody asked for it? It's extremely successful in Europe and North America. Seems more like people had to be shown what they really want or it wouldn't be so successful if it were unwanted and unasked for. That applies more to the PS3.

Gamers didn't ask for it (apart from sheep). I don't personally don't care if casuals and their moms are loving it, because they have completely different standards and requirements to begin with. Dual Analogue beats it as a all-round controller.

As an all-around controller, Dual-Analogue is better. But there is a lot of things the Wii-controller can do that dual-analogue cannot, and the same cannot be said the other way around.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="iunderstand"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Agreed, its totally overated as it is and there's superior motion sensing technology out there.

It was only really made for the failing Japanese market to begin with anyway. Its not needed and often leads to worse control than a good, reliable dual-analogue controller that fits every type of game.

lordlors

You see, when come into a thread and defend an argument like "I just want to put an end to all this naked." it lowers your credibility as well. If you want to hate on the Wii, that's fine but supporting people like this makes you look bad as well.

I don't care if he's Hitler's grandson I agree with what he's saying.

Live with it, its my opinion and I have a Wii to know.

Your statements are not equal to fact therefore making your statements purely opinionated unless there is a reliable source to back up those things you said.

Without any reliable source to back up your statements, those are not facts and not true. Its only true for you and your fantasy. Its not reality. Live with it.

lol, my opinions are a fantasy? Yes I know they're my opinions and to me they are fact, others seem to agree as well otherwise we wouldn't have this mess in the first place. Obviously its a love/hate scenario with both sides making a stand.

I could say your argument and anyone elses against my points aren't fact either and are not true. Gotcha.

Tell that to the 10+ million who bought the console? Honestly why do you care? Do you secretly get paid by Microsoft for "defending" their console? Do you honestly think fanboys like yourself change peoples everyday lives? Is being a fanboy worth it? What benefits do you get?

Logan832

Calm down dude... it's a thread in SYSTEM WARS. People have wars over systems, so therefore people attack systems, and people defend systems.

When done properly, it is far from a "gimmick". Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil 4, and Wario Ware are all generally examples of quality control. mdisen

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"]

:lol: Tomarlyn: Do you really have nothing better to do than skulk around saying how much you hate the Wii and how Nintendo let you down, and how they are ruining gaming? OMG, I'm sure you're in EVERY Wii bashing thread I see getting in the brawl with some diggs in the Wii's side...

groudyogre

You don't seem to have anything better to do than cry about every post I make, which isn't always about the Wii FYI.

Try being a little more mature and debate my posts instead of the relentless ''your are teh fail'', doesn't do you any favours. Its system wars, if you don't like it then get out.

Who's crying? Probably anybody playing Lair but ANYWAY. The Wiimote isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something that is not need but added to try and sell it on. If the Wii didn't have the motion controls.. then its just a 360/Ps3 with less power and more sexiness.

The Wiimote was only needed in the Japanese market not the west, they were falling out of love with traditional hardcore gaming. Not here, thats why very few gamers other than sheep actually like it a great deal this way. Thats why people call it a gimmick here, because nobody asked for it, DA is more reliable and just fine.

And yes your constant tears are quite sad, instead of trying to have a conversation. But your trying now so kudos.

What gave you that impression? The people on SW? :lol: Yeah, use an internet forum as a comparison to the real worls :lol:

Calm down, he's in serious denial of the greatness that is the Wii. He's a fanboy..not sure which type of a fanboy..but, he definetly is one. Either that or he just forgot how hard is to find a Wii in NA.

The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccerDrAwsomeness

Dr. Awesomeness, I'm afraid you aren't living up to your name. All consoles have "gimmicks" and the Wii is just the cheapest so it get the crown of "most gimmicky". Mario Soccer isn't selling as well as Metroid Prime 3 and Resident Evil 4. So I think that is a contradiction. Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation, but since it's about killing eachother, it's cool right?

The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccerDrAwsomeness

No.

When you think about it every controller has it's pro's and con's, it's just that the games are built around it.

I mean the traditional controller is great with most console games, but pales in anything that requires pointing and clicking.

The Mouse and Keyboard is greate with pointing and clicking but pales in button pressing.

The Arcade stick is perfect for pressing buttons but pales in 360 degree movement.

And in 360 degree movement is where the Wii comes in, but then the Wii controller lacks in everything.

So when you think about it, every controller is a gimick, they just have had games built around them that fit the controller.

Nintendo always innovates and the others copy. when everyone uses motion technology next gen all the fanboys will stop calling it a gimmick. just like they did with he d-pad, side buttons, rumble and analog sticks etc....dobbywii

Nintendo always innovates and the others copy. when everyone uses motion technology next gen all the fanboys will stop calling it a gimmick. just like they did with he d-pad, side buttons, rumble and analog sticks etc....dobbywii

[QUOTE="groudyogre"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"]

:lol: Tomarlyn: Do you really have nothing better to do than skulk around saying how much you hate the Wii and how Nintendo let you down, and how they are ruining gaming? OMG, I'm sure you're in EVERY Wii bashing thread I see getting in the brawl with some diggs in the Wii's side...

majadamus

You don't seem to have anything better to do than cry about every post I make, which isn't always about the Wii FYI.

Try being a little more mature and debate my posts instead of the relentless ''your are teh fail'', doesn't do you any favours. Its system wars, if you don't like it then get out.

Who's crying? Probably anybody playing Lair but ANYWAY. The Wiimote isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something that is not need but added to try and sell it on. If the Wii didn't have the motion controls.. then its just a 360/Ps3 with less power and more sexiness.

The Wiimote was only needed in the Japanese market not the west, they were falling out of love with traditional hardcore gaming. Not here, thats why very few gamers other than sheep actually like it a great deal this way. Thats why people call it a gimmick here, because nobody asked for it, DA is more reliable and just fine.

And yes your constant tears are quite sad, instead of trying to have a conversation. But your trying now so kudos.

What gave you that impression? The people on SW? :lol: Yeah, use an internet forum as a comparison to the real worls :lol:

Calm down, he's in serious denial of the greatness that is the Wii. He's a fanboy..not sure which type of a fanboy..but, he definetly is one. Either that or he just forgot how hard is to find a Wii in NA.

Tomarlyn is the biggest anti-Wii fanboy on this forum. He postshis distain for the Wii en mass. He's more interested in the Wii than Wii owners are.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="mdisen"]When done properly, it is far from a "gimmick". Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil 4, and Wario Ware are all generally examples of quality control. mdisen

You forgot to read my post. I said it was a good example of quality control. I said nothing of the game's substance. Try not to be so ignorant all the time and people will take you more seriously, fact of life.

Wow, 65% to 28%. This forum has many more people with sense than I thought.mjarantilla

It's called the vocal minority. The ones that MUST have their important opinion about the Wii heard OR ELSE!

[QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"]The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccermdisen

Dr. Awesomeness, I'm afraid you aren't living up to your name. All consoles have "gimmicks" and the Wii is just the cheapest so it get the crown of "most gimmicky". Mario Soccer isn't selling as well as Metroid Prime 3 and Resident Evil 4. So I think that is a contradiction. Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation, but since it's about killing eachother, it's cool right?

Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation? You lost all credit to me right there. And wasnt I playing RE4 a long time ago? That leaves you with 1, not as good as Halo 3 or Bioshock game.

[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

"100% wii hater"

I think that gets rid of what little credibility (Well there was actually none to begin with) that you had.

TheJuiceyBar

You know, not all of us Wii owners are always playing minigames. Some of us are actually...

GAMERS!!

:o

And I think by definition, the Wii is a gimmick, but not actually a bad one in my opinion. I think that having a Wii and 360 gives me some good balance in gaming.

[QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"]The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccerdobbywii

PSP more AAA + AA games than DS. And lets base the merit of a system by how many casuals want to play it.

[QUOTE="mdisen"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="mdisen"]When done properly, it is far from a "gimmick". Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil 4, and Wario Ware are all generally examples of quality control. rhaigun

You forgot to read my post. I said it was a good example of quality control. I said nothing of the game's substance. Try not to be so ignorant all the time and people will take you more seriously, fact of life.

It's not a gimmick because it works well. I don't care for Wario Ware, but to say the control (via the Wiimote) is "gimmicky" is ignorant.

[QUOTE="TheJuiceyBar"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

"100% wii hater"

I think that gets rid of what little credibility (Well there was actually none to begin with) that you had.

WeAreToast

You know, not all of us Wii owners are always playing minigames. Some of us are actually...

GAMERS!!

:o

Then you must twiddle your thumbs a lot, because nintnedo is terrible at releasing good games consistently.

[QUOTE="dobbywii"]Nintendo always innovates and the others copy. when everyone uses motion technology next gen all the fanboys will stop calling it a gimmick. just like they did with he d-pad, side buttons, rumble and analog sticks etc....mdisen

Nintendo always innovates and the others copy. when everyone uses motion technology next gen all the fanboys will stop calling it a gimmick. just like they did with he d-pad, side buttons, rumble and analog sticks etc....[/QUOTE] [QUOTE="majadamus"][QUOTE="groudyogre"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"]

:lol: Tomarlyn: Do you really have nothing better to do than skulk around saying how much you hate the Wii and how Nintendo let you down, and how they are ruining gaming? OMG, I'm sure you're in EVERY Wii bashing thread I see getting in the brawl with some diggs in the Wii's side...

dobbywii

You don't seem to have anything better to do than cry about every post I make, which isn't always about the Wii FYI.

Try being a little more mature and debate my posts instead of the relentless ''your are teh fail'', doesn't do you any favours. Its system wars, if you don't like it then get out.

Who's crying? Probably anybody playing Lair but ANYWAY. The Wiimote isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something that is not need but added to try and sell it on. If the Wii didn't have the motion controls.. then its just a 360/Ps3 with less power and more sexiness.

The Wiimote was only needed in the Japanese market not the west, they were falling out of love with traditional hardcore gaming. Not here, thats why very few gamers other than sheep actually like it a great deal this way. Thats why people call it a gimmick here, because nobody asked for it, DA is more reliable and just fine.

And yes your constant tears are quite sad, instead of trying to have a conversation. But your trying now so kudos.

What gave you that impression? The people on SW? :lol: Yeah, use an internet forum as a comparison to the real worls :lol:

Calm down, he's in serious denial of the greatness that is the Wii. He's a fanboy..not sure which type of a fanboy..but, he definetly is one. Either that or he just forgot how hard is to find a Wii in NA.

Tomarlyn is the biggest anti-Wii fanboy on this forum. He postshis distain for the Wii en mass. He's more interested in the Wii than Wii owners are.

Ya, it's sad gamers tend to forget what company really made console gaming what it is today. Listen up, lemmings....M$ still cannot figure out how to make a decent d-pad. Nintendo has succeeded for 5 generations, but they wanted to try something different, ya know, challenge themselves. See if they could push gaming forward.

Gamers didn't ask for it (apart from sheep). I don't personally don't care if casuals and their moms are loving it, because they have completely different standards and requirements to begin with. Dual Analogue beats it as a all-round controller.

tomarlyn

So you do care? You're British, mate, not American. You're capable of speaking proper English. Do it!

[QUOTE="WeAreToast"][QUOTE="TheJuiceyBar"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

"100% wii hater"

I think that gets rid of what little credibility (Well there was actually none to begin with) that you had.

DrAwsomeness

You know, not all of us Wii owners are always playing minigames. Some of us are actually...

GAMERS!!

:o

Then you must twiddle your thumbs a lot, because nintnedo is terrible at releasing good games consistently.

I edited it earlier to say that I have a 360 as well.

[QUOTE="mdisen"]

[QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"]The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccerDrAwsomeness

Dr. Awesomeness, I'm afraid you aren't living up to your name. All consoles have "gimmicks" and the Wii is just the cheapest so it get the crown of "most gimmicky". Mario Soccer isn't selling as well as Metroid Prime 3 and Resident Evil 4. So I think that is a contradiction. Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation, but since it's about killing eachother, it's cool right?

Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation? You lost all credit to me right there. And wasnt I playing RE4 a long time ago? That leaves you with 1, not as good as Halo 3 or Bioshock game.

Halo 3 is the very definition of the casual game: a pop culture product marketed to hell and back, with a crude and shallow main character designed to capture teenage fantasies of adulthood.

[QUOTE="groudyogre"][QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="groudyogre"]

:lol: Tomarlyn: Do you really have nothing better to do than skulk around saying how much you hate the Wii and how Nintendo let you down, and how they are ruining gaming? OMG, I'm sure you're in EVERY Wii bashing thread I see getting in the brawl with some diggs in the Wii's side...

tomarlyn

You don't seem to have anything better to do than cry about every post I make, which isn't always about the Wii FYI.

Try being a little more mature and debate my posts instead of the relentless ''your are teh fail'', doesn't do you any favours. Its system wars, if you don't like it then get out.

Who's crying? Probably anybody playing Lair but ANYWAY. The Wiimote isn't a gimmick. A gimmick is something that is not need but added to try and sell it on. If the Wii didn't have the motion controls.. then its just a 360/Ps3 with less power and more sexiness.

The Wiimote was only needed in the Japanese market not the west, they were falling out of love with traditional hardcore gaming. Not here, thats why very few gamers other than sheep actually like it a great deal this way. Thats why people call it a gimmick here, because nobody asked for it, DA is more reliable and just fine.

And yes your constant tears are quite sad, instead of trying to have a conversation. But your trying now so kudos.

You realize the Wii sold more to the West than in Japan, right?

On the other hand. If a dev doesn't like the controls, Wii games run on Classic and Gamecube controller, too.

Halo 3 is the very definition of the casual game: a pop culture product marketed to hell and back, with a crude and shallow main character designed to capture teenage fantasies of adulthood.mjarantilla

What your saying is very true. But it is a good casual game.

[QUOTE="mdisen"]

[QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"]The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccerDrAwsomeness

Dr. Awesomeness, I'm afraid you aren't living up to your name. All consoles have "gimmicks" and the Wii is just the cheapest so it get the crown of "most gimmicky". Mario Soccer isn't selling as well as Metroid Prime 3 and Resident Evil 4. So I think that is a contradiction. Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation, but since it's about killing eachother, it's cool right?

Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation? You lost all credit to me right there. And wasnt I playing RE4 a long time ago? That leaves you with 1, not as good as Halo 3 or Bioshock game.

Oh no, I've lost credibility to Dr. Awesomeness, the ultimate shame. You missed the point again. So what if you've played RE4 a long time ago, that has nothing to do with it's control (this thread is about the Wii controller being a gimmick remember?) Metroid Prime 3 may not be better than Halo 3 or Bioshock, but again, that isn't the point of this thread. The game controls extremely well, it isn't a gimmick.

the Wii-mote is the reason im never buying a wiiArsenal325

You should try playing a game that uses it well. Resident Evil 4 - Wii Edition does that job nicely.

[QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"][QUOTE="mdisen"]

[QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"]The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccermjarantilla

Dr. Awesomeness, I'm afraid you aren't living up to your name. All consoles have "gimmicks" and the Wii is just the cheapest so it get the crown of "most gimmicky". Mario Soccer isn't selling as well as Metroid Prime 3 and Resident Evil 4. So I think that is a contradiction. Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation, but since it's about killing eachother, it's cool right?

Halo 3 is the most casual game this generation? You lost all credit to me right there. And wasnt I playing RE4 a long time ago? That leaves you with 1, not as good as Halo 3 or Bioshock game.

Halo 3 is the very definition of the casual game: a pop culture product marketed to hell and back, with a crude and shallow main character designed to capture teenage fantasies of adulthood.

OR maybe it is just an incredible game with great sci-fi story and the best multiplayer of any console game period.

[QUOTE="WeAreToast"][QUOTE="TheJuiceyBar"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"]

"100% wii hater"

I think that gets rid of what little credibility (Well there was actually none to begin with) that you had.

DrAwsomeness

You know, not all of us Wii owners are always playing minigames. Some of us are actually...

GAMERS!!

:o

Yeah :| there's nothing to play :roll:

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="mdisen"]

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="mdisen"]When done properly, it is far from a "gimmick". Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil 4, and Wario Ware are all generally examples of quality control. mdisen

You forgot to read my post. I said it was a good example of quality control. I said nothing of the game's substance. Try not to be so ignorant all the time and people will take you more seriously, fact of life.

It's not a gimmick because it works well. I don't care for Wario Ware, but to say the control (via the Wiimote) is "gimmicky" is ignorant.

P.S. Stop throwing around the word irgnorant like you're the world's smartest. It's a good way to show just the oposite.

[QUOTE="dobbywii"][QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"]The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccerDrAwsomeness

PSP more AAA + AA games than DS. And lets base the merit of a system by how many casuals want to play it.

PSP has more AAA + AA games, but unfortunately no unique games. Haven't you understood yet, after three years and 50 million sales?

People are tired.

They're tired of "cool" games and "edgy" games, the same way people got tired of gangsta/hiphop movies and bubblegum pop and boyband music back in the 90s. There are a few franchises that survive based on brand name alone like Halo, but by and large, people are just sick of "cool" and "edgy" video games that pander to rebellious teenagers and of pretentious video games that try (and fail) to emulate the emotional resonance and significance of real storytelling with their heavy-handed handling of their topics.

1. Wii offers nothing to gaming other than a cheap, and often inneffective control scheme.

2. The wiimote is used correctly so scarcely, that it cant be considered an improvement (Red Steel)

[QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"]

[QUOTE="dobbywii"][QUOTE="DrAwsomeness"]The wii defeats the DS as the most gimmicky console ever made by far. They are also by far the most casual game systems ever. You would think people will get over puppy sims and mario soccermjarantilla

PSP more AAA + AA games than DS. And lets base the merit of a system by how many casuals want to play it.

PSP has more AAA + AA games, but unfortunately no unique games. Haven't you understood yet, after three years and 50 million sales?

People are tired.

They're tired of "cool" games and "edgy" games, the same way people got tired of gangsta/hiphop movies and bubblegum pop and boyband music back in the 90s. There are a few franchises that survive based on brand name alone like Halo, but by and large, people are just sick of "cool" and "edgy" video games that pander to rebellious teenagers and of pretentious video games that try (and fail) to emulate the emotional resonance and significance of real storytelling with their heavy-handed handling of their topics.

Gamers arent tired of AAA and AA games, casuals are just excited about nintendo's catchy gimmicks