Who is likely to win the next round of console wars?

All the cool kids are buying a Wii U.Eponique

Steam box will win easy, best games from day one if all Steam games going to work on it, really what can beat that?

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[QUOTE="Eponique"]All the cool kids are buying a Wii U.charizard1605

If it's more than $300 then I need to see panic mode Nintendo :x

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Eponique"]All the cool kids are buying a Wii U.Eponique

If it's more than $300 then I need to see panic mode Nintendo :x

Charizard, what are your thoughts on whether or not Nintendo will be able to sell the tablet controller to the mass (casual) market?

When they can simply opt to buy a tablet and there's one out there with a "i" at the start of its name.

Charizard, what are your thoughts on whether or not Nintendo will be able to sell the tablet controller to the mass (casual) market?

When they can simply opt to buy a tablet and there's one out there with a "i" at the start of its name.

shinrabanshou

Microsoft has already won

None of the other systems have any games i care about, especially PS4 that lost everything

loosingENDS

Oh, so the world does revolve around you. It doesn't matter what others like. You are blinded by fanboyism and only like XBox stuff and therefore MS wins.

I do like the addition of the Steambox, but the thing isn't even confirmed and most people haven't even heard of it yet, so of course it will not win the poll. If it is real and we learn more about what Valve's goals are with it, then we can start to add it to every poll... YAY!

However, this would all be contingent on Nintendo's ability to convey the Wii U properly with the masses, and I'm not sure that they can do that. We already saw how they failed in this crucial regard with the 3DS, at least to begin with.charizard1605

You mean the fact that people thought it was just an iteration of DS?

Xbox and PS have nothing i like, Nintendo has, but their hardware is so huge BS i can't go there. both DS and Wii. it's sad, cos the games are good.

Nintendo will propably win, though. casual gamers rule the markets.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]However, this would all be contingent on Nintendo's ability to convey the Wii U properly with the masses, and I'm not sure that they can do that. We already saw how they failed in this crucial regard with the 3DS, at least to begin with.SuperFlakeman

You mean the fact that people thought it was just an iteration of DS?

They can't possibly sell the tablet as a tablet, they'll get butchered if they tried going down that route. However, if they play their cards right, they have the potential to tap into a huge marketbase. I don't remember where I read it, but there was an article about the Wii U once that said that amidst all the skepticism, people were forgetting one very important thing about the Wii U controller- that it could single handedly, in today's world of tablets and touch screens, propel the Wii U to the signature console of our times. Now, while I believe that is hyperbole, I can understand the basic underlying argument behind that statement, and it is a sound argument- people are comfortable and familiar with tablets. If Nintendo can sell them a full fledged game console, that retains the Wii branding (something else they are comfortable with), and brings them the games they know they like (Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Mario Kart), all from a developer they know and trust (in this case Nintendo), which is centered around a tablet controller (an interface they are EXTREMELY familiar with), then the Wii U could see incredible success. However, this would all be contingent on Nintendo's ability to convey the Wii U properly with the masses, and I'm not sure that they can do that. We already saw how they failed in this crucial regard with the 3DS, at least to begin with.charizard1605

I'm not sure they'll see the value proposition in getting a WiiU to buy $50 Scrabble on a touch screen, when they can get Words with Friends for free.

I think WiiU will still sell based on its known franchises, Wii Sports, Mario etc - but still don't think the tablet will be as much of a USP as they're banking on.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]They can't possibly sell the tablet as a tablet, they'll get butchered if they tried going down that route. However, if they play their cards right, they have the potential to tap into a huge marketbase. I don't remember where I read it, but there was an article about the Wii U once that said that amidst all the skepticism, people were forgetting one very important thing about the Wii U controller- that it could single handedly, in today's world of tablets and touch screens, propel the Wii U to the signature console of our times. Now, while I believe that is hyperbole, I can understand the basic underlying argument behind that statement, and it is a sound argument- people are comfortable and familiar with tablets. If Nintendo can sell them a full fledged game console, that retains the Wii branding (something else they are comfortable with), and brings them the games they know they like (Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit, Mario Kart), all from a developer they know and trust (in this case Nintendo), which is centered around a tablet controller (an interface they are EXTREMELY familiar with), then the Wii U could see incredible success. However, this would all be contingent on Nintendo's ability to convey the Wii U properly with the masses, and I'm not sure that they can do that. We already saw how they failed in this crucial regard with the 3DS, at least to begin with.shinrabanshou

I'm not sure they'll see the value proposition in getting a WiiU to buy $50 Scrabble on a touch screen, when they can get Words with Friends for free.

I think WiiU will still sell based on its known franchises, Wii Sports, Mario etc - but still don't think the tablet will be as much of a USP as they're banking on.

And that's the thing- if Nintendo tried selling the Wii U as a tablet device, they would fail massively, they'd be butchered by Apple. However, if they sold it as a game console with all the familiar IPs that everyone knows and loves, with tablet functionality as well, then they may hit gold. It's a very subtle distinction, but it will mean the difference between N64 level success and Xbox 360 level success. It will all come down to how Nintendo markets it, in the end.charizard1605

I think if Apple decides they want to move into the home entertainment space seriously - by combining things like the iPad and Apple TV - then all three players are potentially in serious trouble. But Nintendo moreso - since, imo, they have the most overlap in potential market.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] And that's the thing- if Nintendo tried selling the Wii U as a tablet device, they would fail massively, they'd be butchered by Apple. However, if they sold it as a game console with all the familiar IPs that everyone knows and loves, with tablet functionality as well, then they may hit gold. It's a very subtle distinction, but it will mean the difference between N64 level success and Xbox 360 level success. It will all come down to how Nintendo markets it, in the end.shinrabanshou

I think if Apple decides they want to move into the home entertainment space seriously - by combining things like the iPad and Apple TV - then all three players are potentially in serious trouble. But Nintendo moreso - since, imo, they have the most overlap in potential market.

Who wins? No clue. So many factors that simply can't be known now. However, I'm very interested in how the traditional console model stands up to the potetial challenges coming. More and more, industry leaders seem to be repeating the growing opinion that the traditional console model is quickly fading - that next gen may be the last for that business model. Both Apple and Valve seem to be working on potential (and very different) alternatives, and if either gets a product out I'll be interested to see how theyfare.