Who says CRYSIS aint possible on Consoles???

[QUOTE="legol1"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="justinpate"]

splinter cell double agent didnt look better on pc then the xbox 360 version even at the highest pc settings the gamespot review says so

Meu2k7

Don't even start, you should know better then that.

At any rate as stated, it's not a power issue...these consoles have enough to do crysis justice. It's the lack or Ram...512mb reguardless of platform is simply not enough for what these guys are doing.

Squeez code? are you reall this **** ** ** * ** * ** ................ listen to me, they dont "Squeeze" nothing, the PS2's operating system is like what 5% of the usage that XP gives let alone Vista , PC games then have to open to the fact that people have anywhere ebtween 30-150 processes running on thier machine at once.

I have decided to ignore all of his comments. I advice you to do the same........there is no use in arguin with someone immune to logic.

I'm sure they could get what matters to work.

[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Trashface"]

One of my computers is a p4 with a pci e port. I have an x1300 512 mb card in it, so you're wrong there. It's a fact that top end rig users are the minority. If you're going to try and totally level the playing field, then you have to compare the 360 to it's equivalent of a pc rig. That would be a rig built for $299 and the 360 will run much more smoothly than that rig. So if you're going to compare the 2 fairly, the 360 wins. But as I said, they can't be farily compared because each computer is individual in it's hardware make up and consoles are built the same. I don't understand why you're trying to argue. Everything I've typed here is fact.

skrat_01

So now you are saying you need an equally priced PC compared to a 360 to compare the two? :| Last time I checked the 360 was a console, not a desktop computer.

For arguments- and sillyness on your behalf I have compiled a PC that matches a $600 AUD 360 (pro).

Basic Asus motherboard $59, Core 2 Duo E6500 $218, 1gb DDR2 $49, 80gb sata hdd $50, X1950pro $192, DVDR $23, Cheap Case + PSU $89.

Total of $680 AUD.

There you go, and it outperforms the 360 for $80 AUD more - and it has the capabilities of a computer, compared to the puny features of the 360.

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And you are avoiding the 13.5+ million gaming GPUs sold in Q4 2006. Couped with the sales in 07, and core 2 duo sales it is fact there are MUCH more PCs out there that outperform the 360 by a longshot. Hell those are DX10 GPUs.

The 360s hardware is pretty average by nowadays standards. Even Epic called it a Low to medium PC at the start of the year. Heck i'll link that too.

And this is coming from someone who PC and 360 games.

There's nothing silly about levelling the playing field when comparing pc gaming to consoles. You have to do it by price because it's the only equalizer. I was just saying you can't compare the 2 in general because of hardware differences and it's true. It's like comparing 2 different car models in general, but then having one stock and one souped up with non stock parts. It's common sense. It's silly of you to even argue the logic.

I did it by price as you said "If you're going to try and totally level the playing field, then you have to compare the 360 to it's equivalent of a pc rig. That would be a rig built for $299 and the 360 will run much more smoothly than that rig." and proved you wrong. Simply the 360s hardware isnt all that.

And PC gaming can be compared even if it is a rapidly progressing platform - sure in terms of hardware PC will always curb stomg consoles, but in terms of games - and everything surrounding games why not compare the two. They are both gaming systems.

Let's see if I'm wrong. If you can build a rig for $299 that runs as well as the 360, list the hardware and the sites you're buying from. And the reasonw why you can't compare the games themselves is because each pc version of a game has multiple different versions within itself depending on hardware and settings on the computers it's ran on whereas with a console version, there is only one version you'll play performance wise. There are some factors that doesn't apply to like hardware non related bugs and design flaws.

Let's see if I'm wrong. If you can build a rig for $299 that runs as well as the 360, list the hardware and the sites you're buying from. And the reasonw why you can't compare the games themselves is because each pc version of a game has multiple different versions within itself depending on hardware and settings on the computers it's ran on whereas with a console version, there is only one version you'll play performance wise. There are some factors that doesn't apply to like hardware non related bugs and design flaws.

Trashface

Hardware in Australian $

Basic Asus motherboard $59, Core 2 Duo E6500 $218, 1gb DDR2 $49, 80gb sata hdd $50, X1950pro $192, DVDR $23, Cheap Case + PSU $89 $680 AUD.

check prices at: www.staticice.com.auwww.msy.com.au

An Xbox 360 costs $600 AUD.

That computer outperforms a 360, and should run recent games at equivilent - or even better settings. Hell patch some games, and get even more performance - same goes for newer drivers. Jeez im not making any of this up. Sheesh.

Let's see if I'm wrong. If you can build a rig for $299 that runs as well as the 360, list the hardware and the sites you're buying from. And the reasonw why you can't compare the games themselves is because each pc version of a game has multiple different versions within itself depending on hardware and settings on the computers it's ran on whereas with a console version, there is only one version you'll play performance wise. There are some factors that doesn't apply to like hardware non related bugs and design flaws.

Trashface

let's see the 360 do Cad programs, make games, design websites, print documents, etc etc. These price arguments are incredbly stupid, everyone knows that in the end the PC is the best bang for buck.

[QUOTE="Trashface"]

Let's see if I'm wrong. If you can build a rig for $299 that runs as well as the 360, list the hardware and the sites you're buying from. And the reasonw why you can't compare the games themselves is because each pc version of a game has multiple different versions within itself depending on hardware and settings on the computers it's ran on whereas with a console version, there is only one version you'll play performance wise. There are some factors that doesn't apply to like hardware non related bugs and design flaws.

_Pedro_

let's see the 360 do Cad programs, make games, design websites, print documents, etc etc. These price arguments are incredbly stupid, everyone knows that in the end the PC is the best bang for buck.

You're lost and confused. Scroll up and read. We aren't talking about any other aspect of a pc than gaming and the differences between console and pc gaming dimensions.

[QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="Trashface"]

Let's see if I'm wrong. If you can build a rig for $299 that runs as well as the 360, list the hardware and the sites you're buying from. And the reasonw why you can't compare the games themselves is because each pc version of a game has multiple different versions within itself depending on hardware and settings on the computers it's ran on whereas with a console version, there is only one version you'll play performance wise. There are some factors that doesn't apply to like hardware non related bugs and design flaws.

Trashface

let's see the 360 do Cad programs, make games, design websites, print documents, etc etc. These price arguments are incredbly stupid, everyone knows that in the end the PC is the best bang for buck.

You're lost and confused. Scroll up and read. We aren't talking about any other aspect of a pc than gaming and the differences between console and pc gaming dimensions.

Thats impractical, and these limitations are only in place to help your case. Why would anyone follow these arbitrary rules? Are we not allowed to mention that the ps3 has a blu-ray player in so-far that as gaming involved? These things are important, you can't just shrug them off because it helps your argument.

[QUOTE="Trashface"]Let's see if I'm wrong. If you can build a rig for $299 that runs as well as the 360, list the hardware and the sites you're buying from. And the reasonw why you can't compare the games themselves is because each pc version of a game has multiple different versions within itself depending on hardware and settings on the computers it's ran on whereas with a console version, there is only one version you'll play performance wise. There are some factors that doesn't apply to like hardware non related bugs and design flaws.

skrat_01

Hardware in Australian $

Basic Asus motherboard $59, Core 2 Duo E6500 $218, 1gb DDR2 $49, 80gb sata hdd $50, X1950pro $192, DVDR $23, Cheap Case + PSU $89 $680 AUD.

An Xbox 360 costs $600 AUD.

That computer outperforms a 360, and should run recent games at equivilent - or even better settings. Hell patch some games, and get even more performance - same goes for newer drivers. Jeez im not making any of this up. Sheesh.

If that's true then somethings wrong with 360 pricing in AU. Here, that cpu and video card alone together are around $380 and that's at a discount site. The 360 is $299 here. Maybe it's a regional thing.

[QUOTE="Trashface"][QUOTE="_Pedro_"][QUOTE="Trashface"]

Let's see if I'm wrong. If you can build a rig for $299 that runs as well as the 360, list the hardware and the sites you're buying from. And the reasonw why you can't compare the games themselves is because each pc version of a game has multiple different versions within itself depending on hardware and settings on the computers it's ran on whereas with a console version, there is only one version you'll play performance wise. There are some factors that doesn't apply to like hardware non related bugs and design flaws.

agentfred

let's see the 360 do Cad programs, make games, design websites, print documents, etc etc. These price arguments are incredbly stupid, everyone knows that in the end the PC is the best bang for buck.

You're lost and confused. Scroll up and read. We aren't talking about any other aspect of a pc than gaming and the differences between console and pc gaming dimensions.

Thats impractical, and these limitations are only in place to help your case. Why would anyone follow these arbitrary rules? Are we not allowed to mention that the ps3 has a blu-ray player in so-far that as gaming involved? These things are important, you can't just shrug them off because it helps your argument.

You miss the point. Every single PS3 has the same hardware, so game performance isn't depending on that individual PS3's hardware. The quality of a PC game depends a lot more on that individual systems hardware where a console game will run the same on every single console of it's type.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Trashface"]Let's see if I'm wrong. If you can build a rig for $299 that runs as well as the 360, list the hardware and the sites you're buying from. And the reasonw why you can't compare the games themselves is because each pc version of a game has multiple different versions within itself depending on hardware and settings on the computers it's ran on whereas with a console version, there is only one version you'll play performance wise. There are some factors that doesn't apply to like hardware non related bugs and design flaws.

Trashface

Hardware in Australian $

Basic Asus motherboard $59, Core 2 Duo E6500 $218, 1gb DDR2 $49, 80gb sata hdd $50, X1950pro $192, DVDR $23, Cheap Case + PSU $89 $680 AUD.

An Xbox 360 costs $600 AUD.

That computer outperforms a 360, and should run recent games at equivilent - or even better settings. Hell patch some games, and get even more performance - same goes for newer drivers. Jeez im not making any of this up. Sheesh.

If that's true then somethings wrong with 360 pricing in AU. Here, that cpu and video card alone together are around $380 and that's at a discount site. The 360 is $299 here. Maybe it's a regional thing.

Hell the PS3 costs $1000 AUD here. No wonder I bought a 360 over it eh lol.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20224

Hermits think PS3 and XBOX360 is like the Wii. Pc gamers have no idea what consoles can do.
My pc is capable of running Crysis on max though.

Latina_Chick

The Hermits here are in a level of denial that has no equal. The Hermits here believe their opinions are heard. The Hermits here still want to compare Rigs with Consoles, we are not talking about the brightest group here.

[QUOTE="Latina_Chick"]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20224

Hermits think PS3 and XBOX360 is like the Wii. Pc gamers have no idea what consoles can do.
My pc is capable of running Crysis on max though.

Khansoul

The Hermits here are in a level of denial that has no equal. The Hermits here believe their opinions are heard. The Hermits here still want to compare Rigs with Consoles, we are not talking about the brightest group here.

:lol: an article back from 2006 ... oh man, you just owned yourself by supporting this, the game graphical/technically improved up to this day... nobodies in denial but you.

[QUOTE="Latina_Chick"]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20224

Hermits think PS3 and XBOX360 is like the Wii. Pc gamers have no idea what consoles can do.
My pc is capable of running Crysis on max though.

Khansoul

The Hermits here are in a level of denial that has no equal. The Hermits here believe their opinions are heard. The Hermits here still want to compare Rigs with Consoles, we are not talking about the brightest group here.

(addressing topic title) Well it aint, so get over it.

[QUOTE="Latina_Chick"]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20224

Hermits think PS3 and XBOX360 is like the Wii. Pc gamers have no idea what consoles can do.
My pc is capable of running Crysis on max though.

Khansoul

The Hermits here are in a level of denial that has no equal. The Hermits here believe their opinions are heard. The Hermits here still want to compare Rigs with Consoles, we are not talking about the brightest group here.

:lol: And yet it's always the console newbies hoping and praying that Crysis will show up on consoles. And yet, somehow, that means that we're the ones comparing PCs to consoles. Yeah. We already know high-end PCs are significantly more powerful than consoles. We don't have to go around saying it, because it's already common knowledge, one thread regardless. Common to everyone but console fanboys, that is.

You can barely run DiRT at 30 FPS, but you can run Crysis. Of course. Oblivion runs like a snail on consoles, even though it barely features physics and literally has no environmental destructability, but why would there be an issue with Crysis? Consoles render those big, open worlds so smoothly, after all.

[QUOTE="Latina_Chick"]

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=20224

Hermits think PS3 and XBOX360 is like the Wii. Pc gamers have no idea what consoles can do.
My pc is capable of running Crysis on max though.

Khansoul

The Hermits here are in a level of denial that has no equal. The Hermits here believe their opinions are heard. The Hermits here still want to compare Rigs with Consoles, we are not talking about the brightest group here.

That seems reasonable to me. My rig > any console. Why is that so ridiculous?