Who's more evil? EA, Activision or Microsoft?

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[QUOTE="lx_theo"] Then don't buy the damn game. Its not their fault you're a cheap bastard. :/lx_theo

i am cheap ? let me tell u what cheap is.....when a company makes 100s of millions n then wants to dip its hands in the used game market not becuz its hurting but becuz of the used game markets profits thats cheap. understand gaming is not hurting at all its rising/growing.

check the real facts E3 2011 the biggest crowd to date/viewers. VGA 2010 the biggest viewing its ever had. yeah the gaming market is hurting. when its only growing. n growing to people at the same time through moblie games social games all that. hardly worth defending them.

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Actually it's not my problem since I buy games new. ;)

Besides, did you even read what I posted? And you must not know how hard it is for developers to simply break even these days.

theuncharted34

you know we are talking about ea n activation here right ? they are 1 n 2 in the 3rd party game market. breaking even hard for them hahaha plzz. next they gonna be twittering you or telling gamespot we are hurting n struggling here cuz we only made 99 million billion dollar instead of 100 million billion dollars. that matching gold toliet handle will have to wait.

Right, because online passes only apply to EA and Activision. :|

What are you, 12?

surely with that lvl n post count you understand what a topic is right ? don't see anyone else other then ea n activation.

This whole business about EA banning people from playing games based on a program that automatically bans forum users is absolutely ridiculous...superclocked

I don't know their histories too well, but they should team up and form the Empire.

After hearing those stories about EA's forums, theres no way I'm voting for something else.

None of them are in any way evil.

Snugenz

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None of them are in any way evil.

cainetao11

Well, EA and Activision are actually, legitimately evil, so... them.

Sony....TheEroica

By supporting their first party studios with anything they need and not charging for online?

Those evil ****'s!

Yeah, no.

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]Sony....theuncharted34

By supporting their first party studios with anything they need and not charging for online?

Those evil ****'s!

Yeah, no.

by removing features from their console?

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]Sony....ohthemanatee

By supporting their first party studios with anything they need and not charging for online?

Those evil ****'s!

Yeah, no.

by removing features from their console?

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

By supporting their first party studios with anything they need and not charging for online?

Those evil ****'s!

Yeah, no.

Nengo_Flow

by removing features from their console?

considering I own over 30 PS2 games then yes I do care about that

after all, isn't the Ps2 considered one of the best consoles ever made?

and what do you mean by real PS3 owners? I own a PS3 :|

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[QUOTE="TheEroica"]Sony....ohthemanatee

By supporting their first party studios with anything they need and not charging for online?

Those evil ****'s!

Yeah, no.

by removing features from their console?

Yeah, I know how you feel. There's no reason Sony could've continued to sell an $840 console for $600. :lol:

Always hilarious that some people think all company's are in the same boat.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

By supporting their first party studios with anything they need and not charging for online?

Those evil ****'s!

Yeah, no.

theuncharted34

by removing features from their console?

Yeah, I know how you feel. There's no reason Sony could've continued to sell an $840 console for $600. :lol:

Always hilarious that some people think all company's are in the same boat.

that's another good one, a 600 euro PS3... for what exactly?

blu-ray? who'se use this gen has been limited at best?

The Cell processor which i've yet to see it's power?

an outdated nvidia card?

512MB or ram?

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by removing features from their console?

ohthemanatee

Yeah, I know how you feel. There's no reason Sony could've continued to sell an $840 console for $600. :lol:

Always hilarious that some people think all company's are in the same boat.

that's another good one, a 600 euro PS3... for what exactly?

blu-ray? who'se use this gen has been limited at best?

The Cell processor which i've yet to see it's power?

an outdated nvidia card?

512MB or ram?

Whoa... i've just tripped back into 07'.

Yeah, if any of that *wasn't* nonsense fanboy drivel which was never the point of this conversation, the point still stands they were losing over $200 per unit.

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Yeah, I know how you feel. There's no reason Sony could've continued to sell an $840 console for $600. :lol:

Always hilarious that some people think all company's are in the same boat.

theuncharted34

that's another good one, a 600 euro PS3... for what exactly?

blu-ray? who'se use this gen has been limited at best?

The Cell processor which i've yet to see it's power?

an outdated nvidia card?

512MB or ram?

Whoa... i've just tripped back into 07'.

Yeah, if any of that *wasn't* nonsense fanboy drivel which was never the point of this conversation, the point still stands they were losing over $200 per unit.

then next console I recommend better planning and spend less money on unecessary crap

[QUOTE="TheEroica"]Sony....theuncharted34

By supporting their first party studios with anything they need and not charging for online?

Those evil ****'s!

Yeah, no.

you should research on PC online gaming, you will discover that gamers pay for servers. you should be lucky they don't charge you to play on them

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that's another good one, a 600 euro PS3... for what exactly?

blu-ray? who'se use this gen has been limited at best?

The Cell processor which i've yet to see it's power?

an outdated nvidia card?

512MB or ram?

ohthemanatee

Whoa... i've just tripped back into 07'.

Yeah, if any of that *wasn't* nonsense fanboy drivel which was never the point of this conversation, the point still stands they were losing over $200 per unit.

then next console I recommend better planning and spend less money on unecessary crap

When all else fails, change the subject.

You do remember, this conversation was about trying to lump sony with these other 3 company's, right?

None of them are "evil" :|

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[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]

Whoa... i've just tripped back into 07'.

Yeah, if any of that *wasn't* nonsense fanboy drivel which was never the point of this conversation, the point still stands they were losing over $200 per unit.

theuncharted34

then next console I recommend better planning and spend less money on unecessary crap

When all else fails, change the subject.

You do remember, this conversation was about trying to lump sony with these other 3 company's, right?

yes, and I don't see why it's so wrong, sony is just slightly less "evil" then microsoft imo

Sony :twisted:

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[QUOTE="JETS-JETS-JETS"]

i am cheap ? let me tell u what cheap is.....when a company makes 100s of millions n then wants to dip its hands in the used game market not becuz its hurting but becuz of the used game markets profits thats cheap. understand gaming is not hurting at all its rising/growing.

JETS-JETS-JETS

check the real facts E3 2011 the biggest crowd to date/viewers. VGA 2010 the biggest viewing its ever had. yeah the gaming market is hurting. when its only growing. n growing to people at the same time through moblie games social games all that. hardly worth defending them.

Activision hands down. EA is pretty bad and microsoft seems to the lesser of the 3 evils.

Compared to the other three, Sony is in no way THAT evil.

They made some dumb desicions but the most evil?

Hardly.

Compared to the other three, Sony is in no way THAT evil.

They made some dumb desicions but the most evil?

Hardly.

Nega3

What's more evil??? Or do you mean who has the dumbest fanbase because you know, they're businesses and all making profit, not charities.

Compared to the other three, Sony is in no way THAT evil.

They made some dumb desicions but the most evil?

Hardly.

Nega3

Compared to the other three, Sony is in no way THAT evil.

They made some dumb desicions but the most evil?

Hardly.

Nega3

Compared to the other three, Sony is in no way THAT evil.

They made some dumb desicions but the most evil?

Hardly.

Nega3

"It doesn'y really matter what ships at launch. The first five million will buy it, whatever it is even if it didn't have games." - SCEE CEO David Reeves on the PS3.

"too cheap" - Kataragi on the $599 PS3 price point.

Yean Sony is much kinder than Activision and Microsoft...

Sorry it scares me that people are being taught that companies can't do evil.
Working for a company doesn't exempt people from ethics or their responsibilities. A company consists of people, they make their decisions. If 'business' includes screwing over customers and covering it up, to deny the customer service or quality or serve them lies because it saves money, to repeat the crimes of your competition because it gave them an edge, then business is just another word for evil. If that is the only way to function in 'business' then it loses its purpose as it becomes more efficient in its wrongdoings. Isn't the idea behind economics that people gain in wealth?

What a failure of an economic system, and nobody is seriously looking for a solution.
And what a failure of education, but that's never going to improve either is it.

Can't really say that an organisation that is built around making money is evil for trying to make more money in the cheapest way possible. However out of the 3, from a gamers perspective I would say EA is guilty of doing the most "damage", lets call it, to gaming. Although my experience with Activision games is limited so I can't really say anything negative about them or really Microsoft either. Although GFWL is horrible.

Can't really say that an organisation that is built around making money is evil for trying to make more money in the cheapest way possible. However out of the 3, from a gamers perspective I would say EA is guilty of doing the most "damage", lets call it, to gaming. Although my experience with Activision games is limited so I can't really say anything negative about them or really Microsoft either. Although GFWL is horrible.

iamrob7

Jesus Christ, people are still using the MS charging for online access argument? I have all systems and Live is well worth the price.

Using this logic, Blizzard is evil for charging for WoW despite significant more sophistication than competitors like the free Guild Wars.

Compared to the other three, Sony is in no way THAT evil.

They made some dumb desicions but the most evil?

Hardly.

Nega3

You have zero clue what the word "Evil" means do you?

EA. Most of Activision's games are rehashes, but most don't decrease in quality. EA is ruining good developers like Bioware and DICE though.

You have zero clue what the word "Evil" means do you?

R3FURBISHED

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Compared to the other three, Sony is in no way THAT evil.

They made some dumb desicions but the most evil?

Hardly.

R3FURBISHED

You have zero clue what the word "Evil" means do you?

Jesus Christ, people are still using the MS charging for online access argument? I have all systems and Live is well worth the price.

Using this logic, Blizzard is evil for charging for WoW despite significant more sophistication than competitors like the free Guild Wars.

lild1425

Compared to the other three, Sony is in no way THAT evil.

They made some dumb desicions but the most evil?

Hardly.

Nega3

Really? How about one of their dirty tatics???

"Sony paid $400-million for Blu-ray deal with Warner"

What remains a mystery is just how big a push Warner needed to pick sides. Analysts say Sony only prevailed following a heated bidding war against Toshiba, with the reward reaching as much as $400-million (U.S.). Neither side has confirmed the size of any bids or payments.

With billions of dollars in global sales at stake, experts had predicted the Toshiba-Sony battle would go on for years - not unlike the 1980s battle of videotape formats between VHS **** and Betamax (Sony). That war lasted a decade, leaving Sony battered and humiliated.

So how did this epic battle come to such an abrupt end?

The answer lies in part with the bruising Sony experienced with Betamax, which, like Blu-ray, was also the better product on paper.

For more that 20 years, Sony has been "haunted by Betamax" and was fiercely determined not to let history repeat itself, explained Xavier Drèze, a marketing professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton business school.

"Sony was much smarter," Prof. Drèze said. "They understood this time they couldn't do it alone. They understood that they needed strategic partnerships with industry players."

http://www.you.com.au/news/2672.htm

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You have zero clue what the word "Evil" means do you?

DrHousesCane

See this people, DrHousesCane understands. Use your brains people

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You have zero clue what the word "Evil" means do you?

R3FURBISHED

See this people, DrHousesCane understands. Use your brains people