Who's more evil? EA, Activision or Microsoft?

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[QUOTE="DrHousesCane"] Not many people in this thread do, none of these Corporations are "evil", they're doing there Job, which is to make money off of consumers in the least cost efficient way. They're doing their jobs, and if you find that "evil", you are basically saying the Basic Goal of a corporation is "evil"

KungfuKitten

See this people, DrHousesCane understands. Use your brains people

Than one Company can't be "more evil" than another because they are all trying to reach the same goal. Some company's are just worse at that goal than others.

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See this people, DrHousesCane understands. Use your brains people

DrHousesCane

Than one Company can't be "more evil" than another because they are all trying to reach the same goal. Some company's are just worse at that goal than others.

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[QUOTE="DrHousesCane"] Not many people in this thread do, none of these Corporations are "evil", they're doing there Job, which is to make money off of consumers in the least cost efficient way. They're doing their jobs, and if you find that "evil", you are basically saying the Basic Goal of a corporation is "evil"

KungfuKitten

See this people, DrHousesCane understands. Use your brains people

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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] The basic goal of a company IS evil, if the goal is solely to make money without involving practical wisdom, ethics, or anything humane but greed. KungfuKitten

Than one Company can't be "more evil" than another because they are all trying to reach the same goal. Some company's are just worse at that goal than others.

So X company is more "evil" than Y company because X Company succeeds at doing the set goal better than Y Company?

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Than one Company can't be "more evil" than another because they are all trying to reach the same goal. Some company's are just worse at that goal than others.

DrHousesCane

So X company is more "evil" than Y company because X Company succeeds at doing the set goal better than Y Company?

Activisionis greater then Microsoft is equal to EA

One reason activsion is one of the most evil publishers is for one reason people never seem to mention is that they actually tried to mess with DoubleFine a couple of years ago when they were developng Burtal Legend while EA was their publisher.The game was geting hyped a lot at the E3 on the year it was suspose to release I think.Since Activsion sold DoubleFine they had no more control over the games they developed. Once Activision saw the hype for Brutal legend they tried to sue DoubleFine for stealing a game that they thought they had control over.Microsoft is not really evil, but they do have a tendency to overcharge for some of their products like a harddrive,controllers, xbox live amd more. EA is not really evil, but can be a pain with the way they have runned Origin since theycreated it and their online passes for theconsole games they release.

EA is the only correct answer.

Banning someone from accessing their games on Origin at EA's own discretion is more evil than paying for playing online or $15 map packs. Shame because I really, really want Battlefield 3.

All of the above!

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None of them are in any way evil.

KungfuKitten

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People really think online passes are so horrible? Wow, I don't know whats so stuck up their butts. I can't say I like it, or that it isn't bad, but its nowhere near as horrible as some of you make it out to be. :/

theuncharted34

have 20 dollars only in your pocket n walk into store. see the game u want used for under 20 bills n the other new game is just over. buy the used game of course right ? get home pop it in online pass pops up n says, code or 10 dollars plzzz. middle finger goes up n curse words come out. trust me on this its what happens lol.

That's your problem.

Developers shouldn't have to keep shelling out money to keep their servers running, and keep supporting multiplayer for multiple owners of a single game when only one person actually bought the game new. So, only that one person actually paid for those servers to be kept running ect. ect.

Online passes are just a way that developers make back the money they spend on keeping the online portion of a game up and running.

Here's why it's still your problem when you buy new:
Online/content passes expire.
There are content passes, i.e. no multiplayer server costs.
Codes may not work/be included.
Inherently restricts your ownership/license rights in various ways.
May lower second hand value.
Gamestop may benefit from it.
EA may shut down servers whenever, after a 30 day notification has been issued.
EA customer support is dismal.
EA testing out pay-to-play.
EA may(and do)terminate accounts at its sole discretion.
EA using it as a deceitful marketing ploy for content-starved games/to cut out content.
EA may be less than forthcoming about what will be included.
EA says US inhabitants can't file ****actions.

They only want to be rightfully compensated. Poor EA. :(

Who's the worst?

Nega3

Hitler.

Seriously, business is business, whether you like it or not.

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="cainetao11"] agreed. They are corporations that do business without emotional attachment. Many can't fathom the idea. Sony and Nintendo are as well.cainetao11

Evil? I had always thought strangling pregnant women and raping people was evil - not coorperations who handle their business well enough to recieve great profits.

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Why has nobody quotedR3FURBISHED'spost yet?

The thread should have ended here.

I'm thinking more along the lines of "heartless" for these companies (the type that doesn't give a s*** about any of us) and I'd say they're all on equal footing...one company charges you out the ass for every single thing, one blatantly expresses how much of a blind sheep their fans are (and still make more money by the year), and the other doesn't hide the fact that they're all too willing to take your money and still screw their consumers over. DethSkematik

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Why should they give a s*** about you? They have no idea who you are.

They're in this business to make money, not friends.

As far as business is concerned, they're all making the right decisions for the sake of their respective companies.

They are in no way evil. They may not take many prisoners, but that's just business at the end of the day.

Pfft, where is Sony & "N" in all this ? If not for MS this gen, they would have both thrown gamers under the buss but having the 360 around, they were forced to up their game big time. :cool:

Anyhoo, GE !!! :P

I just voted for Activi$ion.

P.S.

Knowing cows, they would vote Microsoft aka the creators of windows, which is the pc.

Sure as hell aint EA. They have helped churn out some damn good games the gen. Plus they gave Dead Space a chance. Activision never would have.Master_ShakeXXX

EA no doubt.

Also, the second option is like a cow trap :P

Ea they have lost all the goodwill they built up this gen with Mirror's Edge and Dead Space

[QUOTE="DethSkematik"]I'm thinking more along the lines of "heartless" for these companies (the type that doesn't give a s*** about any of us) and I'd say they're all on equal footing...one company charges you out the ass for every single thing, one blatantly expresses how much of a blind sheep their fans are (and still make more money by the year), and the other doesn't hide the fact that they're all too willing to take your money and still screw their consumers over. balfe1990

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Why should they give a s*** about you? They have no idea who you are.

They're in this business to make money, not friends.

As far as business is concerned, they're all making the right decisions for the sake of their respective companies.

They are in no way evil. They may not take many prisoners, but that's just business at the end of the day.

There's greed (charging for online, milking a franchise, charging $60 for PC games), stupidity (The Cell, PS2 hardware emulation which jacked up the PS3's price then removing it which only seemed to piss people off even more, no 2nd analog on the 3DS, making the Wii underpowered) and evil (banning someone access to their games for being helpful which is effectively robbing them of their money).

There's only one company that fits the description of evil.

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[QUOTE="DethSkematik"]I'm thinking more along the lines of "heartless" for these companies (the type that doesn't give a s*** about any of us) and I'd say they're all on equal footing...one company charges you out the ass for every single thing, one blatantly expresses how much of a blind sheep their fans are (and still make more money by the year), and the other doesn't hide the fact that they're all too willing to take your money and still screw their consumers over. DethSkematik

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Why should they give a s*** about you? They have no idea who you are.

They're in this business to make money, not friends.

As far as business is concerned, they're all making the right decisions for the sake of their respective companies.

They are in no way evil. They may not take many prisoners, but that's just business at the end of the day.

I don't think it's any coincidence that the three biggest companies also happen to be nominated for "Most Evil".

You don't get corporations the size of the aforementioned and not get criticized for unethical business decisions. That's just part and parcel.

All the other companies just don't have the size and the scope to be capable of malpractice or whatever.

I'd bet my right nut they'd all act the same though, if given the chance.

That's how you run a corporation. You have to be ruthless and make as much money as possible at the expense of perceived morality.

They didn't get to be as big as they are now by being nice to each individual consumer.

EA>MS>AV for me. Activisions only offense is making bad games and milking DLC. MS is 2nd simply because i think the $60 a year is BS. EA has been doing some terrible things lately. I wonder why capcom isn't on the poll.

In my opinion Acti=EA=MS.

EA

EA just because they took extremely talented studios, like Bullfrog, BioWare, Westwood, Origin Systems, Maxis, Pandemic, etc., and turned them into horrible studios or just outright shut them down.

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Than one Company can't be "more evil" than another because they are all trying to reach the same goal. Some company's are just worse at that goal than others.

DrHousesCane

So X company is more "evil" than Y company because X Company succeeds at doing the set goal better than Y Company?

People keep saying things like this and I don't know why.
"They're not evil, just doing business, making a profit is the main goal for a company" etc.

Why is the egotistical drive for gaining money used as a defence against those who criticize an entity for utilizing questionable practices to accomplish that goal? That is such a f***ed up way of thinking. I worry for those who actually believe it.

What makes it even weirder is that in relation to most of these specific SW cases, you are the one getting negatively impacted by the corporate practices and policies you are defending with your bizarre argument.

Grant Stokebeard: "John robbed a guy yesterday. I am against this type of behavior."
Defense Force: "Oh well he was only trying to gain some money so that makes it ok."
John: *punches Defense Force in face and takes his money*
Defense Force: "You forgot to steal my watch!"

I do not understand you.

Granted we're all selfish f***s for buying luxury products manufactured at or made using material/parts from labor camps and conflict areas. So I suppose if you really do believe that the end justifies the means, then at least you're not hypocrites, just amoral ****oles who'd do anything for money. And that is evil.

None of those companies are evil. I really hate that word being used so casually. They are all however, greedy as hell and out of all of them I F***king despise EA the most.

Cows will pick Microsoft.

People think that COD is BIG DLC will pick Activision.

Hardcore COD fans pick EA.

:)

None of them are in any way evil.

Snugenz

Oh Friedrich Nietzshe, why did you have to write that stupid book!

They are all equally evil. (even though i voted Activision because i actually liked MW3 (paradox much?)).

Edit: Misspelled Nietzsche, hard name to spell, but a powerful mustache!

I say Activison. They are ones who killed GH and TH and next up COD. EA is evil too with their greedy ways and MS isn't bad but they can be a ***** sometimes.