Why all the Crysis 2 hate?

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#1 Snyper-007
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Why all the hate when its not even out yet? for all we now it could out score Flopzone 3.
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#2 abuabed
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Because the graphics look completely disappointing on PC.
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#3 Snyper-007
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Because the graphics look completely disappointing on PC.abuabed
How?
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#4 abuabed
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[QUOTE="abuabed"]Because the graphics look completely disappointing on PC.Snyper-007
How?

Not sure of serious. But a PC demo should offer lots of graphics/tweaking options while Crysis 2 had only pre-fixed settings without even supporting DX10 or DX11. Compared to Crysis 1 it is a big letdown even for a demo.
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#5 donalbane
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Crysis 1 was the best looking game for so long, everyone expected Crysis 2 to look even better and be more accessable to a wide variety of platforms. While everyone can play the sequel, the whole reason they wanted to - the graphics - aren't what people expected. I think the big dog pile you are seeing here is people trying to re-calibrate their minds around the fact that a once venerated series is no longer the best looking game. Seems like Battlefield 3 will steal the crown. (Sorry, Uncharted 3 fans. You still may have the best looking CONSOLE game, though.)
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#6 i5750at4Ghz
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Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.
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#7 Snyper-007
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Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.i5750at4Ghz
Crysis 2 will score AAAA on PC. Quote me on that
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#8 Fry60
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PC fanboys - It was built around consoles which means even with scalability it might not look as good as the original Crysis and won't be the same open-ended style game of the original. It will probably play more like Halo or COD. PS3 fanboys - Angry it might be the console graphics king. Xbox 360 fanboys - Angry it might not be the console graphics king. Gamers - No hate. Maybe some disappointment and worry that it might not be as good as they hoped.
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#9 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.Snyper-007
Crysis 2 will score AAAA on PC. Quote me on that

Don't know about that, but it's AAA for sure imo.
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Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.i5750at4Ghz
I actually agree. The main issue appears to be graphics.
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#11 Shirokishi_
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Because the graphicsabuabed

This.

Alot of pissed off hermits want more.

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Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.i5750at4Ghz

And here I thought it was reasonable to compare a sequel and its predecessor.

Either way here's basically the break down for everyone.

PC gamers think they got a console port (So far nothing says otherwise)

PS3 gamers got a shoddy port. (Taken from IGN)

X360 gamers didn't get the graphics king they wanted (I suppose they don't really have anything to complain about).

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#13 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.Espada12

And here I thought it was reasonable to compare a sequel and its predecessor.

Either way here's basically the break down for everyone.

PC gamers think they got a console port (So far nothing says otherwise)

PS3 gamers got a shoddy port. (Taken from IGN)

X360 gamers didn't get the graphics king they wanted (I suppose they don't really have anything to complain about).

More than reasonable. But you guys aren't comparing the two GAMES you're comparing the two GRAPHICALLY and GRAPHICALLY only.

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#14 rybe1025
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Like I put in another thread It is sad Crytek is getting so much grief to me Crytek is being hated on because PC games because another PC only developer is making a major title for consoles now. PC gamers are angry they lost a major exclusive so they are hating on Crytek because they lost a exclusive. What is funny also is the PC will still get the best version and they should be angry at EA not CRytek. PS3 gamers because that version is the worse like almost every other multiplat game. So now they are screaming that Crytek are crap developers.
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Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.i5750at4Ghz

LMAO. We want a game that will blow us away and mesmerizes us like Crysis 1 did with not just it's graphics but it's vast environments. We want a game that raises the bar again. Crysis 1 raised the bar from Far Cry. We expected Crysis 2 to raise the bar from Crysis 1. Judging by what's been released so far it looks like it's a step backwards. Why can't you understand that?

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#16 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.Xtasy26

LMAO. We want a game that will blow us away and mesmerizes us like Crysis 1 did with not just it's graphics but it's vast environments. We want a game that raises the bar again. Crysis 1 raised the bar from Far Cry. We expected Crysis 2 to raise the bar from Crysis 1. Judging by what's been released so far it looks like it's a step backwards. Why can't you understand that?

Because I've played the game. And its a step forward in almost every way.
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[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.i5750at4Ghz

LMAO. We want a game that will blow us away and mesmerizes us like Crysis 1 did with not just it's graphics but it's vast environments. We want a game that raises the bar again. Crysis 1 raised the bar from Far Cry. We expected Crysis 2 to raise the bar from Crysis 1. Judging by what's been released so far it looks like it's a step backwards. Why can't you understand that?

Because I've played the game. And its a step forward in almost every way.

Except the change in gameplay, the console field of view, the lack of graphics options, the lack of dx10/11, defaulting to aim assist on the pc, "push start to begin", cod style gameplay, encrypted config file (Crysis without graphics mods... lol), dumbed down nano suit, horrible AA, bloom and blur, sloppy server browser that doesn't work properly, gun takes up half the screen, lower quality textures than cry1, and much much more. The only positives are the incredible lighting and the more varied (but restricted) gameplay.
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#19 GeneralShowzer
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Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.i5750at4Ghz
Because it's a step back in many ways, not to mention it feels like a bad console port. This is FEAR 2 stuff.

Also, the game doesn't run well on consoles, it look's ugly too. (on consoles) The controls aren't responsive on consoles. I can't see who can be pleased with it.

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Graphics aren't impressive except that it looks good on low-end machines.

Gameplay sucks.

Multiplayer sucks.

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#21 Ondoval
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Why all the hate when its not even out yet? for all we now it could out score Flopzone 3.Snyper-007

Due is F.E.A.R. 2: Destroying Crysis again.

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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

LMAO. We want a game that will blow us away and mesmerizes us like Crysis 1 did with not just it's graphics but it's vast environments. We want a game that raises the bar again. Crysis 1 raised the bar from Far Cry. We expected Crysis 2 to raise the bar from Crysis 1. Judging by what's been released so far it looks like it's a step backwards. Why can't you understand that?

Xtasy26

Because I've played the game. And its a step forward in almost every way.

I am talking about the graphics aspect and size of the levels. While come all these PC gamers aren't WOWED by it like they were with Crysis 1?

Graphics are incomplete, hard to judge it off the incomplete beta. However the multiplayer demo looks much better than Crysis wars ever did. Size of levels is comparable to the original. PC gamers aren't WOWED because most decided to have a negative attitude toward the game as soon as it got released as a multiplat.

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Because the graphics look completely disappointing on PC.abuabed

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss20/elbatcho/stockcry.jpg

Looks great to me.

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#24 rybe1025
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PC gamers are just angry that it is not exclusive.
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]Because it turns out the most PC gamers use crysis as a benchmark more than a game.Espada12

And here I thought it was reasonable to compare a sequel and its predecessor.

Either way here's basically the break down for everyone.

PC gamers think they got a console port (So far nothing says otherwise)

PS3 gamers got a shoddy port. (Taken from IGN)

X360 gamers didn't get the graphics king they wanted (I suppose they don't really have anything to complain about).

I've seen these reasons somewhere.:P

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#26 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="abuabed"]Because the graphics look completely disappointing on PC.Snyper-007
How?

BEcause instead of upgrade the amazing graphic engine of Crysis 1 and have another "benchmark" for DX11 cards they made a "lighter" engine for consoles port. LIGHTER than the one used 3 years ago. Thats not upgrade. Thats Downgrade.
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[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Because I've played the game. And its a step forward in almost every way. i5750at4Ghz

I am talking about the graphics aspect and size of the levels. While come all these PC gamers aren't WOWED by it like they were with Crysis 1?

Graphics are incomplete, hard to judge it off the incomplete beta. However the multiplayer demo looks much better than Crysis wars ever did. Size of levels is comparable to the original. PC gamers aren't WOWED because most decided to have a negative attitude toward the game as soon as it got released as a multiplat.

Is that why there's all the BF3 hate going on? Because it's multi-plat? No, Crysis 2 is just a badly featured console port.
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#28 JJGT500
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So many people complaining about the graphics. I'm guessing none have played Black Ops? Heck even COD4 looks better than Black Ops. I don't see what the problem is here. Crysis 2 isn't going to be a benchmark type of game like the original game was. But that still doesn't mean that it's not going to have great graphics, from the video's I have watched it looks good enough to me and fun to play.
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#29 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="abuabed"]Because the graphics look completely disappointing on PC.AzatiS
How?

BEcause instead of upgrade the amazing graphic engine of Crysis 1 and have another "benchmark" for DX11 cards they made a "lighter" engine for consoles port. LIGHTER than the one used 3 years ago. Thats not upgrade. Thats Downgrade.

Until we see the game running full spec you're doing nothing but guessing.

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#30 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

I am talking about the graphics aspect and size of the levels. While come all these PC gamers aren't WOWED by it like they were with Crysis 1?

GeneralShowzer

Graphics are incomplete, hard to judge it off the incomplete beta. However the multiplayer demo looks much better than Crysis wars ever did. Size of levels is comparable to the original. PC gamers aren't WOWED because most decided to have a negative attitude toward the game as soon as it got released as a multiplat.

Is that why there's all the BF3 hate going on? Because it's multi-plat? No, Crysis 2 is just a badly featured console port.

I disagree. Have you even played the game more than 10 minutes?
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#31 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="Snyper-007"][QUOTE="abuabed"]Because the graphics look completely disappointing on PC.AzatiS
How?

BEcause instead of upgrade the amazing graphic engine of Crysis 1 and have another "benchmark" for DX11 cards they made a "lighter" engine for consoles port. LIGHTER than the one used 3 years ago. Thats not upgrade. Thats Downgrade.

Yes. No DX10 features, No special motion blur, no advanced physics, no dynamic skyline, the water looks like crap, it's on such a smaller scale. It's a step down in every way, expect that Crysis 2 has these fancy effects up in your face, making the game a blury mess.
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Because PC gamers were looking for a game to justify their $500 graphics card purchase and now they are disappoint.

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#34 HaloinventedFPS
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the PC version is very bad

Graphics are worse than Crysis 1

its poorly optimized for dual cores (using over 90% at all times)

the AA doesnt work very well, its a jagfest

FOV has been dumbed down for consoles

Auto-Aim present on the PC Demo

Brown and Bloom, the textures are quite bad, the bloom hides it

DX9 only

Call of duty clone

Console port

Gamespy account needed

anymore to add?

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#36 JJGT500
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Because PC gamers were looking for a game to justify their $500 graphics card purchase and now they are disappoint.

jjccjj92
That is pretty much what it's boiling down to. PC gamers were hoping that Crysis 2 was going to look even better than the original. But with it being multiplat, anyone that knows games and hardware would know it wasn't going to be that epic graphics king game they wanted.
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#37 yellonet
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The demo is boring.

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Because PC gamers were looking for a game to justify their $500 graphics card purchase and now they are disappoint.

jjccjj92
Not everyone has a 500$ card. The ones that do are happy playing games in 2560p. Or maxing out Arma II or Metro 2033 Not to mention Shogun II coming out this month, which will make my PC cry.
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#39 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Snyper-007"] How?GeneralShowzer
BEcause instead of upgrade the amazing graphic engine of Crysis 1 and have another "benchmark" for DX11 cards they made a "lighter" engine for consoles port. LIGHTER than the one used 3 years ago. Thats not upgrade. Thats Downgrade.

Yes. No DX10 features, No special motion blur, no advanced physics, no dynamic skyline, the water looks like crap, it's on such a smaller scale. It's a step down in every way, expect that Crysis 2 has these fancy effects up in your face, making the game a blury mess

. [/QUOTE

] You are not a PC gaming owner of original Crysis , what to discuss with you here? But ok lets make it interesting. Let me do a question to you then...

HOW comes 3 years ago , consoles couldnt handle a game called CRYSIS!?

And how comes after 3 years they can easily handle , the NEWEST engine? Did you ever wonder that ?

Why you talking about DX10 , a DirectX more than 5 years old or something like its something awesome...!! lol... Just go play crysis man and then play crysis 2 demo maybe youll understand then

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#40 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="AzatiS"] BEcause instead of upgrade the amazing graphic engine of Crysis 1 and have another "benchmark" for DX11 cards they made a "lighter" engine for consoles port. LIGHTER than the one used 3 years ago. Thats not upgrade. Thats Downgrade. AzatiS
Yes. No DX10 features, No special motion blur, no advanced physics, no dynamic skyline, the water looks like crap, it's on such a smaller scale. It's a step down in every way, expect that Crysis 2 has these fancy effects up in your face, making the game a blury mess.

You are not a PC gaming owner of original Crysis , what to discuss with you here? But ok lets make it interesting. Let me do a question to you then... HOW comes 3 years ago , consoles couldnt handle a game called CRYSIS!? And how comes after 3 years they can easily handle , the NEWEST engine? Did you ever wonder that ?

Because the engine has been heavily scaled down ? :? Not to mention the game has been scaled down. What was once completely open game with amazing destruction and physics is now a closed off game in a city with moderately good destruction. Did you ever wonder that? I'm also a PC gamer and Crysis is one of my favorite games.

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I know the SP should be good, but the demo is nothing special, honestly, Crysis doesn't need multiplayer.

Because PC gamers were looking for a game to justify their $500 graphics card purchase and now they are disappoint.

jjccjj92
I maxed the demo out with a 156 bucks graphics card.XD
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#42 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Yes. No DX10 features, No special motion blur, no advanced physics, no dynamic skyline, the water looks like crap, it's on such a smaller scale. It's a step down in every way, expect that Crysis 2 has these fancy effects up in your face, making the game a blury mess. GeneralShowzer

You are not a PC gaming owner of original Crysis , what to discuss with you here? But ok lets make it interesting. Let me do a question to you then... HOW comes 3 years ago , consoles couldnt handle a game called CRYSIS!? And how comes after 3 years they can easily handle , the NEWEST engine? Did you ever wonder that ?

Because the engine has been heavily scaled down ? :? Not to mention the game has been scaled down. What was once completely open game with amazing destruction and physics is now a closed off game in a city with moderately good destruction. Did you ever wonder that? I'm also a PC gamer and Crysis is one of my favorite games.

Well then i misunderstood you. I think you know what you talking about :) Sorry . Cheers
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#43 GeneralShowzer
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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="AzatiS"] You are not a PC gaming owner of original Crysis , what to discuss with you here? But ok lets make it interesting. Let me do a question to you then... HOW comes 3 years ago , consoles couldnt handle a game called CRYSIS!? And how comes after 3 years they can easily handle , the NEWEST engine? Did you ever wonder that ?AzatiS

Because the engine has been heavily scaled down ? :? Not to mention the game has been scaled down. What was once completely open game with amazing destruction and physics is now a closed off game in a city with moderately good destruction. Did you ever wonder that? I'm also a PC gamer and Crysis is one of my favorite games.

Well then i misunderstood you. I think you know what you talking about :) Sorry . Cheers

I misunderstand you too :P Anyway, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJG14uLA3k Here, a lot in Cryengine 3 is scaled down Cryengine 3. It's not an upgrade.
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#45 Ondoval
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PC gamers are just angry that it is not exclusive. rybe1025

The game on play looks bewond awful; is a mixture between the worst AA systemn ever (TAA) over the top-blinding HDR saturation, tinny FOV and huge weapon model covering your view; the abusive motion blur makes almost impossible to see your environment in the multiplayer when you run.

The game has less options than Pong.

The gameplay is Crysis nerfed: your supersuit makes you super-slow, and you are weaker than a standard Bad Company soldier.

The multiplayer fall from 32 to 12 players and the servers doesn't properly works; is almost a miracle to join in a match and seems that it's going worse along more and more people is playing the demo.

Legit complains? I have no problems with non-exclusives: BC 2 was my favourite game last year.

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#46 arbitor365
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I dont know. it looks like a far better game than the first crysis.

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#47 DreamCryotank
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I don't know why everyones complaining about the size of the levels. From what I played in Crysis 2, the levels are still large, they just don't feature tons of filler (running along a beach for 2 minutes staring at nothing but the same trees copy and pasted everywhere). City enviroment =/= Jungle enviroment. Ofcourse there's going to be parts where you're running through office blocks. :roll: Crysis 2s enviroments are FAR more interesting than Crysis 1s enviroments, and I've only played the first couple of levels of the Crysis 2 beta.

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#48 GeneralShowzer
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I don't know why everyones complaining about the size of the levels. From what I played in Crysis 2, the levels are still large, they just don't feature tons of filler (running along a beach for 2 minutes staring at nothing but the same trees copy and pasted everywhere).

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In Crysis you are thrown into this realistic massive fully interactive environment filled with enemies. I loved sneaking around, cruising with boats, taking different approaches. It wasn't just, shoot from chest high walls and wait for the next cinematic (like Crysis 2 looks like from video's I've seen)
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Also, the aliens in Crysis 2 are awesome, especially the noises they make. :3

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#50 110million
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Crysis 2 (SP. dont care about MP) looks incredible. I hardly think anyone who say "it looks crap or it doesnot looks good" Should be an expert on what good game consist of.SNIPER4321
Not getting it with DX9 only support, my LAST videocard even had DX10, wtf is this? I'm cancelling my pre-order tomorrow, not because of the graphics thing, but because they obviously give more of a **** about console gamers, its EMBARRASSING for the sequel to the 4-year graphics king to come with DX9 only, something that is OLDER than the previous Crysis. By the time they get out DX11 support, maybe it will be cheaper. :)