Why all the hate for PC Gamers?

That only thing that points is that i got tired of the bad ports on the pc. "Yet" pc gamers will say that even with all those problems the pc is perfect....yawn!!!!

That only thing that points is that i got tired of the bad ports on the pc. "Yet" pc gamers will say that even with all those problems the pc is perfect....yawn!!!!

dakan45

really now?

I was a pc gamer for many years but the quality bar has set so low latelly that i enjoy console games like uncharted 2 much more.dakan45

Anyone else remember when hermits tried to argue that Half-Life was more popular and influential than Halo? :lol:Nerkcon

I hate PC gamers because most of them are arrogent elitests. About a video game system lol.

Example : "Which system won '09 games-wise"

Hermit answer - "PC wins just like every year"

Even though IMO PC had nothing on PS3. MLB '09 The Show, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Demon Soul's, R&C, inFAMOUS, plus all the games PS360 share that aren't on PC dominates the PC line-up this year.

Reason the PC won?

"PC wins every year"

"PC is always the best"

"PC always has/had the best games"

Crap like that annoys me.

SpideR_CentS

[QUOTE="SpideR_CentS"]

I hate PC gamers because most of them are arrogent elitests. About a video game system lol.

Example : "Which system won '09 games-wise"

Hermit answer - "PC wins just like every year"

Even though IMO PC had nothing on PS3. MLB '09 The Show, Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, Demon Soul's, R&C, inFAMOUS, plus all the games PS360 share that aren't on PC dominates the PC line-up this year.

Reason the PC won?

"PC wins every year"

"PC is always the best"

"PC always has/had the best games"

Crap like that annoys me.

Danm_999

computer are nothing more than web browsers and calculators. if want to game for real get a ps3.InfiniteBlak

computer are nothing more than web browsers and calculators. if want to game for real get a ps3.InfiniteBlak

What is quite amusing about arrogant comments like yours is consoles clearly aspire to be computers.

[QUOTE="InfiniteBlak"]computer are nothing more than web browsers and calculators. if want to game for real get a ps3.AnnoyedDragon

What is quite amusing about arrogant comments like yours is consoles clearly aspire to be computers.

I hate it because all the hate the PC gamers give the consoles. I will never own a gaming PC. I've been playing games for 15 years and have never considered PC.

If PC elitists didn't go around shoving their "facts" in everybody's faces I would have no problem with it. It would be like the Wii to me, nonexistent. But since these people have to say how terrible consoles are compared to their "rigs". Games on the PC simply do not appeal to me. They have nothing of my interest that I couldn't get on a console

I hate it because all the hate the PC gamers give the consoles. I will never own a gaming PC. I've been playing games for 15 years and have never considered PC.

If PC elitists didn't go around shoving their "facts" in everybody's faces I would have no problem with it. It would be like the Wii to me, nonexistent. But since these people have to say how terrible consoles are compared to their "rigs". Games on the PC simply do not appeal to me. They have nothing of my interest that I couldn't get on a console

BPoole96

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I hate it because all the hate the PC gamers give the consoles. I will never own a gaming PC. I've been playing games for 15 years and have never considered PC.

If PC elitists didn't go around shoving their "facts" in everybody's faces I would have no problem with it. It would be like the Wii to me, nonexistent. But since these people have to say how terrible consoles are compared to their "rigs". Games on the PC simply do not appeal to me. They have nothing of my interest that I couldn't get on a console

Danm_999

The topic is why all the hate for PC gamers, not the PC itself. My post would have been different if it was "Why do you hate the PC?". Actually, my post wouldn't even exist if that were the case

If PC elitists didn't go around shoving their "facts" in everybody's faces I would have no problem with it. It would be like the Wii to me, nonexistent.

BPoole96

Yeah us PC gamers and our annoying facts, how dare we speak the truth instead of letting people make up whatever they want about PC.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

I hate it because all the hate the PC gamers give the consoles. I will never own a gaming PC. I've been playing games for 15 years and have never considered PC.

If PC elitists didn't go around shoving their "facts" in everybody's faces I would have no problem with it. It would be like the Wii to me, nonexistent. But since these people have to say how terrible consoles are compared to their "rigs". Games on the PC simply do not appeal to me. They have nothing of my interest that I couldn't get on a console

BPoole96

The topic is why all the hate for PC gamers, not the PC itself. My post would have been different if it was "Why do you hate the PC?". Actually, my post wouldn't even exist if that were the case

I often have a feeling that most of the Consolites (I hate that term) saying that, are the teens who was not allowed to get a PC. They never really seen anything but the "media centers" thier family uses, and have a hard time wrapping thier heads around the thing.

They tend to hate anything that is not on thier own brand of console, out of insecurity, and jealusy. Granted some Hermits do contribiute to the hate by butting in on the "best console graphics" subjects and such, when it has been stated that it was a console thing.

I am fairly certain that its the preteens-teens that hate so much however :P since most of the mature part of the fanbases are quite able to see strengths and weaknesses of each system, and comment based on logic instead of raw emotions.

And honestly it must suck for a % of the console gamers always to be told that there are a better version of x game on the pc (altho it is often the case, based of funktionality and graphics) but comeon it is maybe a notch better, not a world of difference.

soo... chalk the hate up to insecure brats trying to defend what they have :P (the rest of us just goes out and buys another system if it begins to look interresting)

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

If PC elitists didn't go around shoving their "facts" in everybody's faces I would have no problem with it. It would be like the Wii to me, nonexistent.

AnnoyedDragon

Yeah us PC gamers and our annoying facts, how dare we speak the truth instead of letting people make up whatever they want about PC.

"PC wins because PC always wins" is not a fact. Those are the kind of "facts" I'm referring to.

Everyone on this board is aware that the PC's hardware is better than the consoles' as well as some other pros about it. Those cannot be argued. If somebody made a topic "Who will win 2015", a year none of us know about, I guarantee somebody would use the quote I started this post with. Yeah, you're going to get Cows and Lems say their respective consoles, but that won't add that little ALWAYS wins to the end of it. PC gamers try to pass it off as a fact instead of their strong opinion

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

If PC elitists didn't go around shoving their "facts" in everybody's faces I would have no problem with it. It would be like the Wii to me, nonexistent.

BPoole96

Yeah us PC gamers and our annoying facts, how dare we speak the truth instead of letting people make up whatever they want about PC.

"PC wins because PC always wins" is not a fact. Those are the kind of "facts" I'm referring to.

Everyone on this board is aware that the PC's hardware is better than the consoles' as well as some other pros about it. Those cannot be argued. If somebody made a topic "Who will win 2015", a year none of us know about, I guarantee somebody would use the quote I started this post with. Yeah, you're going to get Cows and Lems say their respective consoles, but that won't add that little ALWAYS wins to the end of it. PC gamers try to pass it off as a fact instead of their strong opinion

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] So you're judging an experience based not on its actual quality, but on how its fans act?Danm_999

The topic is why all the hate for PC gamers, not the PC itself. My post would have been different if it was "Why do you hate the PC?". Actually, my post wouldn't even exist if that were the case

I've never pursued PC gaming my whole life because it never appealed to me. Between the NES and the PS3 I have never felt my gaming experiences were held back due to being on consoles.

The first sentence I wrote said that I mainly didn't like it because of the people and how they act. If they didn't do the things they do, PC game would just be another platform that I chose not to play on. Nothing wrong with that, just a personal choice.

It's not petty or limiting. How am I limiting myself when I'm perfectly happy with my PS3? I get the games I want to play, the quality of them, and the variety that I enjoy. I don't need another platform for that. If I felt my experience was being held back and the PC was the way to go, than I would switch over.

"PC wins because PC always wins" is not a fact. Those are the kind of "facts" I'm referring to.

Everyone on this board is aware that the PC's hardware is better than the consoles' as well as some other pros about it. Those cannot be argued. If somebody made a topic "Who will win 2015", a year none of us know about, I guarantee somebody would use the quote I started this post with. Yeah, you're going to get Cows and Lems say their respective consoles, but that won't add that little ALWAYS wins to the end of it. PC gamers try to pass it off as a fact instead of their strong opinion

BPoole96

So essentially you are taking fanboys, something that clearly exists on all platforms, then complain as if it is only PC gamers with this attitude?

It's not petty or limiting. How am I limiting myself when I'm perfectly happy with my PS3? I get the games I want to play, the quality of them, and the variety that I enjoy. I don't need another platform for that. If I felt my experience was being held back and the PC was the way to go, than I would switch over.

BPoole96

It's limiting because you don't try to experience everything you can.

Some of your reasons for doing that are very petty as I was saying, particularly how you hate the PC because of PC gamers. Personally, I always try to broaden my horizons. I don't try and sit on my laurels on things, whether than be people I meet, places I visit, movies and television I watch, music I listen to, and games I play.

Because I can tell you, while you may thoroughly enjoy what you're doing right now, there is always more out there you'll enjoy. By not even bothering to pursue it, you're limiting yourself.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

"PC wins because PC always wins" is not a fact. Those are the kind of "facts" I'm referring to.

Everyone on this board is aware that the PC's hardware is better than the consoles' as well as some other pros about it. Those cannot be argued. If somebody made a topic "Who will win 2015", a year none of us know about, I guarantee somebody would use the quote I started this post with. Yeah, you're going to get Cows and Lems say their respective consoles, but that won't add that little ALWAYS wins to the end of it. PC gamers try to pass it off as a fact instead of their strong opinion

AnnoyedDragon

So essentially you are taking fanboys, something that clearly exists on all platforms, then complain as if it is only PC gamers with this attitude?

Although there are not as many of them on these boards, I consider them to be the worst. That combined with the lack in interest of games on the PC draw me from it. As I had said in the other post, this thread is referring to PC gamers. Just like the consoles, it has fanboys (obviously). I am stating why I do not like PC fanboys. So yes, I am talking fanboys.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]It's not petty or limiting. How am I limiting myself when I'm perfectly happy with my PS3? I get the games I want to play, the quality of them, and the variety that I enjoy. I don't need another platform for that. If I felt my experience was being held back and the PC was the way to go, than I would switch over.

Danm_999

It's limiting because you don't try to experience everything you can.

Some of your reasons for doing that are very petty as I was saying, particularly how you hate the PC because of PC gamers. Personally, I always try to broaden my horizons. I don't try and sit on my laurels on things, whether than be people I meet, places I visit, movies and television I watch, music I listen to, and games I play.

Because I can tell you, while you may thoroughly enjoy what you're doing right now, there is always more out there you'll enjoy. By not even bothering to pursue it, you're limiting yourself.

Although I have not owned a gaming PC, I have played some of the games when I was younger. I learned quickly that I do not enjoy RTS. That genre is the home ground on PC. Then, we have MMOs. I'm not into those types of games. They simply do not appeal to me. That leaves me a a few FPSs (Crysis, Arma 2, Stalker) that would have to justify my purchase of a gaming computer. Seeing as Crysis 2 is coming to the PS3, that takes it out of the equation.

If I owned a PC, it would essentially be for 2 exclusives and possibly some multiplats that I could play on my PS3 already. I try to broaden my horizons as well. I have never been too big on RPGs, but I purchased Demon's Souls just to see if I liked it. Turns out I am loving the game because it is so different from other games I've played

Although I have not owned a gaming PC, I have played some of the games when I was younger. I learned quickly that I do not enjoy RTS. That genre is the home ground on PC. Then, we have MMOs. I'm not into those types of games. They simply do not appeal to me. That leaves me a a few FPSs (Crysis, Arma 2, Stalker) that would have to justify my purchase of a gaming computer. Seeing as Crysis 2 is coming to the PS3, that takes it out of the equation.

If I owned a PC, it would essentially be for 2 exclusives and possibly some multiplats that I could play on my PS3 already. I try to broaden my horizons as well. I have never been too big on RPGs, but I purchased Demon's Souls just to see if I liked it. Turns out I am loving the game because it is so different from other games I've played

BPoole96

but why buy a ps3 over a pc for multiplats when the pc would save you money and everything would be 'better' in the end?

and if you think the only exclusives are RTS,FPS, and MMOs youre mistaken.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Although I have not owned a gaming PC, I have played some of the games when I was younger. I learned quickly that I do not enjoy RTS. That genre is the home ground on PC. Then, we have MMOs. I'm not into those types of games. They simply do not appeal to me. That leaves me a a few FPSs (Crysis, Arma 2, Stalker) that would have to justify my purchase of a gaming computer. Seeing as Crysis 2 is coming to the PS3, that takes it out of the equation.

If I owned a PC, it would essentially be for 2 exclusives and possibly some multiplats that I could play on my PS3 already. I try to broaden my horizons as well. I have never been too big on RPGs, but I purchased Demon's Souls just to see if I liked it. Turns out I am loving the game because it is so different from other games I've played

washd123

but why buy a ps3 over a pc for multiplats when the pc would save you money and everything would be 'better' in the end?

and if you think the only exclusives are RTS,FPS, and MMOs youre mistaken.

I didn't but a PS3 for the multiplats. I bought it because some of my favorite games are on that exclusive to that console. Games like God of War, Gran Turismo, Killzone, Devil May Cry (was exclusive at the time of me buying one) as well as the great new IPs that Sony has put out like Uncharted, Resistance, LBP, Infamous, etc. That is the reason I stayed with Sony consoles for the PS3.

If I was on a PC I would not have any access to those games. Sure I'd have slightly better multiplats, but I could get those on the other console as well. I am aware of the other genres of exclusives that PC offers, but those 3 are probably the biggest.

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Although I have not owned a gaming PC, I have played some of the games when I was younger. I learned quickly that I do not enjoy RTS. That genre is the home ground on PC. Then, we have MMOs. I'm not into those types of games. They simply do not appeal to me. That leaves me a a few FPSs (Crysis, Arma 2, Stalker) that would have to justify my purchase of a gaming computer. Seeing as Crysis 2 is coming to the PS3, that takes it out of the equation.

If I owned a PC, it would essentially be for 2 exclusives and possibly some multiplats that I could play on my PS3 already. I try to broaden my horizons as well. I have never been too big on RPGs, but I purchased Demon's Souls just to see if I liked it. Turns out I am loving the game because it is so different from other games I've played

BPoole96

but why buy a ps3 over a pc for multiplats when the pc would save you money and everything would be 'better' in the end?

and if you think the only exclusives are RTS,FPS, and MMOs youre mistaken.

I didn't but a PS3 for the multiplats. I bought it because some of my favorite games are on that exclusive to that console. Games like God of War, Gran Turismo, Killzone, Devil May Cry (was exclusive at the time of me buying one) as well as the great new IPs that Sony has put out like Uncharted, Resistance, LBP, Infamous, etc. That is the reason I stayed with Sony consoles for the PS3.

If I was on a PC I would not have any access to those games. Sure I'd have slightly better multiplats, but I could get those on the other console as well. I am aware of the other genres of exclusives that PC offers, but those 3 are probably the biggest.

But dont you see, those exclusive PS3 games are not real games because they are not PC games. Why would you even consider playing LBP or Demons Souls when there are so many other better games on the PC? This is how a PC only gamer thinks.

But dont you see, those exclusive PS3 games are not real games because they are not PC games. Why would you even consider playing LBP or Demons Souls when there are so many other better games on the PC? This is how a PC only gamer thinks.

Videodogg

no thats how elitests think. on ANY system

im a pc only gamer and i love demon souls i loved KZ2 and think uncharted 2 was amazing.

dont lump us altogether

But dont you see, those exclusive PS3 games are not real games because they are not PC games. Why would you even consider playing LBP or Demons Souls when there are so many other better games on the PC? This is how a PC only gamer thinks.

Videodogg

Because lems and cows (no I'm not using sheep because lems and cows do this to them) don't think the same way? :roll:

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

If PC elitists didn't go around shoving their "facts" in everybody's faces I would have no problem with it. It would be like the Wii to me, nonexistent.

Yeah us PC gamers and our annoying facts, how dare we speak the truth instead of letting people make up whatever they want about PC.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

"PC wins because PC always wins" is not a fact. Those are the kind of "facts" I'm referring to.

Everyone on this board is aware that the PC's hardware is better than the consoles' as well as some other pros about it. Those cannot be argued. If somebody made a topic "Who will win 2015", a year none of us know about, I guarantee somebody would use the quote I started this post with. Yeah, you're going to get Cows and Lems say their respective consoles, but that won't add that little ALWAYS wins to the end of it. PC gamers try to pass it off as a fact instead of their strong opinion

So essentially you are taking fanboys, something that clearly exists on all platforms, then complain as if it is only PC gamers with this attitude?

Although there are not as many of them on these boards, I consider them to be the worst. That combined with the lack in interest of games on the PC draw me from it. As I had said in the other post, this thread is referring to PC gamers. Just like the consoles, it has fanboys (obviously). I am stating why I do not like PC fanboys. So yes, I am talking fanboys.

computer are nothing more than web browsers and calculators. if want to game for real get a ps3.InfiniteBlak

Why would i want to settle for what I would call "Last Gen" technology at this point?

Because pc gamers are annoying and thing their pc is god and pc gaming is the best no matter all those problems it has!! However pc gamers are like "What pc is perfect and its the best, you troll" Annoying isn't it?dakan45

And console gamers seem to be pleased with their poor grammatical ability. And Console gaming is way more buggy then PC gaming FACT. Why do you think your favorate console has so many "firmware" updates? Actualy I say it is boarderline rediculus how much a console or console game needs a patch.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

So essentially you are taking fanboys, something that clearly exists on all platforms, then complain as if it is only PC gamers with this attitude?

TheBigBadGRIM

Although there are not as many of them on these boards, I consider them to be the worst. That combined with the lack in interest of games on the PC draw me from it. As I had said in the other post, this thread is referring to PC gamers. Just like the consoles, it has fanboys (obviously). I am stating why I do not like PC fanboys. So yes, I am talking fanboys.

How inacurate and amusing they are...

They are just jealous of the glorious PC gaming master race. 8)

HenriH-42

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

They are just jealous of the glorious PC gaming master race. 8)

smokeydabear076

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]We get hate because they're jealous that our system is better than theirs.washd123

no the hate comes ftrom elitist attitudes like this, and from ignorance.

pc gaming isnt better, its different. same with console gaming, neither is better.

This is one instance where i will explitly use my opinion as a fact. PC gaming is better. With convenience taken out of the question, games on PC look better, play smoother and the library has more quality as well as quantity. Also, kb/m owns in most situations. "Click "i", left click and drag flame shield to equip".

Rockzo, after your comments in the other thread, your comments are now forever invalid. I also have reason to believe that you are a troll...

cause they act like elitist ALL THE TIME.

its not the best system just cause your opinion of it is.

dont say it has better controls, games, devs ect THOSE ARE ALL OPINION.

BlackTragedy

This is one instance where i will explitly use my opinion as a fact. PC gaming is better. With convenience taken out of the question, games on PC look better, play smoother and the library has more quality as well as quantity. Also, kb/m owns in most situations. "Click "i", left click and drag flame shield to equip".

Rockzo, after your comments in the other thread, your comments are now forever invalid. I also have reason to believe that you are a troll...

tirralirra

except you cant take convience out of the question and mouse and keyboard being better is subjective. also the library only has quality if youre interested in those games.

again its not factually better only different.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"]

This is one instance where i will explitly use my opinion as a fact. PC gaming is better. With convenience taken out of the question, games on PC look better, play smoother and the library has more quality as well as quantity. Also, kb/m owns in most situations. "Click "i", left click and drag flame shield to equip".

Rockzo, after your comments in the other thread, your comments are now forever invalid. I also have reason to believe that you are a troll...

washd123

except you cant take convience out of the question and mouse and keyboard being better is subjective. also the library only has quality if youre interested in those games.

again its not factually better only different.

Edit: FACT! ...

Sshh...games like sanitarium, dungeon keeper, diablo etc etc make all consoles look like poo poo

Edit: FACT! ...

tirralirra

only if youre interested in those games

[QUOTE="JetLagz28"]

Why all the hate for lemmings? Why do people want PC gaming to die? I don't understand...

I'm 26 and I grew up during the golden age of PC gaming in the 90's and early 2000's. I know there is a preference for most of us to play on a console because its more relaxing, social and we can play on a bigger tv while sitting on the couch. With this generation's advance in online gaming, a true rival to PC online gaming now exists.

PC gaming is where it all started. Open operating systems, cheaper production and liscencing costs and variable control schemes have created the types of games we can't get enough of today. The games are cheaper, the systems are customizable and you can modify the games that you purchased and own.

The platform thrives on competition but also allows niche markets to co-exist. FPS's were once a niche market of PC games. Adventrue games, flight sims, real time strategy and role playing games were once all bigger than shooters. FPS's grew up and matured on PC's. Online gaming was a regular pracitice on PC's a full decade before PSN and Xbox live really got going. Where do you think consoles got the idea from?

The PC market is innovative, it moves quickly and more people have access to it than ever before.

Why do lots of console gamers want PC gaming to die out? Why limit our choices?

Thanks for reading.

kraken2109

[QUOTE="tirralirra"]

Sshh...games like sanitarium, dungeon keeper, diablo etc etc make all consoles look like poo poo

Edit: FACT! ...

washd123

only if youre interested in those games

lol, damn you! in which case (here comes the elitism) you dont like sanitarium, dungeon keeper, diablo, myth etc etc you are a noob/casual gamer.tirralirra

how would that make someone a casual gamer or noob if they dont like those games or simply arent interested? and why would that make pc gaming better?

[QUOTE="tirralirra"] lol, damn you! in which case (here comes the elitism) you dont like sanitarium, dungeon keeper, diablo, myth etc etc you are a noob/casual gamer.washd123

how would that make someone a casual gamer or noob if they dont like those games or simply arent interested? and why would that make pc gaming better?

I don't have hate for PC gamers, but I imagine for those who do, that it's largely due to the extreme arrogance displayed by PC gamers.

It doesn't really. But the reason its makes someone a casual/noob gamer is becauase Sanitarium has very little in spite of gameplay but a lot in terms or puzzle and adventure, something that modern gamers cannot handle anymore which also explains all the hype for Alan Wake and Heavy Rain. Dungeon Keeper is pretty much a real time strategy game with focus on real time upgrading, dungeon management and other special skills include turning prisoners into skeletons or torture victims into mistresses ie another game that requires a lot of thought. now diablo is essentially a hack and slash sort of game, only the RPG element are well balanced, thought out and have a big impact on your playing style and progress, something that modern RPG fail in (ie Mass Effect). I could go on. Nah, of course you right, im just being picky, but i do hate casuals ad noobs. Mainly cos i hang around here too much and this place is filled with them.tirralirra

im just playing the devils advocate here. personaly im a pc gamer and feel its the 'right' way for developers and gamers to go especially now that the experience has become as simple in terms of convience as a console. but i wont say its better.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"] It doesn't really. But the reason its makes someone a casual/noob gamer is becauase Sanitarium has very little in spite of gameplay but a lot in terms or puzzle and adventure, something that modern gamers cannot handle anymore which also explains all the hype for Alan Wake and Heavy Rain. Dungeon Keeper is pretty much a real time strategy game with focus on real time upgrading, dungeon management and other special skills include turning prisoners into skeletons or torture victims into mistresses ie another game that requires a lot of thought. now diablo is essentially a hack and slash sort of game, only the RPG element are well balanced, thought out and have a big impact on your playing style and progress, something that modern RPG fail in (ie Mass Effect). I could go on. Nah, of course you right, im just being picky, but i do hate casuals ad noobs. Mainly cos i hang around here too much and this place is filled with them.washd123

im just playing the devils advocate here. personaly im a pc gamer and feel its the 'right' way for developers and gamers to go especially now that the experience has become as simple in terms of convience as a console. but i wont say its better.

right, thats my mission now. your post clearly suggests that you think PC gaming is better, but you wont say. hmmm, how can i go about this i'll go for your avatar, you surely cannot admit that you'd play TF2 on a console over a pc...let alone the halflife series itself.tirralirra

no i can not. i am a pc gamer my bias is fairly. clear. in my personal belief pc gaming is better. expect thats pc gaming as in gaming on the pc not the pc gaming experience. ive already outlined the differences between the experiences. as far as the core console and core pc experience goes, i prefer the pc but i will not say its the better of the two. if that makes any sense.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"] right, thats my mission now. your post clearly suggests that you think PC gaming is better, but you wont say. hmmm, how can i go about this i'll go for your avatar, you surely cannot admit that you'd play TF2 on a console over a pc...let alone the halflife series itself.washd123

no i can not. i am a pc gamer my bias is fairly. clear. in my personal belief pc gaming is better. expect thats pc gaming as in gaming on the pc not the pc gaming experience. ive already outlined the differences between the experiences. as far as the core console and core pc experience goes, i prefer the pc but i will not say its the better of the two. if that makes any sense.