Why all the love for ME 1 and 2?

Their some of my favourite games this gen.

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[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] I don't think so. As a package ME2 is the best game this gen.tempest91

People can criticize Mass Effect 2 for many things: streamlined/stipped gameplay, lack of RPG elements, side quests, scanning, etc, but poor narrative, that's definitely stretching an obvious hatred for the game or bioware or both.

I'd give the original a 9.5 and the sequel an 8.5. Both are great games, but the original actually felt more like a sequel than the sequel did. The sequel polished a lot of pre-existing features but it added next nothing while taking away the main RPG components of the original.

because there very good games and you get hooked on the gameplay, least i did

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People can criticize Mass Effect 2 for many things: streamlined/stipped gameplay, lack of RPG elements, side quests, scanning, etc, but poor narrative, that's definitely stretching an obvious hatred for the game or bioware or both.

My point is that there is a difference between just ok or good narrative and poor, and I really find it hard to believe that ME 2 has flat out poor narrative compared to other games this gen. It might be "lacking" compared to a few other games, but I really can't buy poor. But, that's what opinions are for I guess.

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People can criticize Mass Effect 2 for many things: streamlined/stipped gameplay, lack of RPG elements, side quests, scanning, etc, but poor narrative, that's definitely stretching an obvious hatred for the game or bioware or both.

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My point is that there is a difference between just ok or good narrative and poor, and I really find it hard to believe that ME 2 has flat out poor narrative compared to other games this gen. It might be "lacking" compared to a few other games, but I really can't buy poor. But, that's what opinions are for I guess.

I love the Sci-Fi theme.

Its a very fantastic game, but it suffers a few flaws that keep it from a 9.5 for me. The combat is much mroe fluid and AI is better, but the cover system is stickier and simpler than most you see today (except Mafia II), it also takes away a lot of RPG for the sake of TPS. I also think it could have done with a few more plot threads and instead of taking the lazy route of removing the Mako, ME2 should have improved on it.

Pretty much one of the best games this gen. Its kind of like Uncharted 2. It gets everything it sets out to do just right. People bash the game becouse its less of an rpg and I agree, but while it is a worse rpg then the first game, it is a far better game.

I'm assuming that it's the same love that Uncharted 1 and Uncharted 2 get.

great games... loved ME1 on 360, great game... currently playing ME2 on PC and so far its amazing :)

ME2 deserved a 9.5 and the Goty award in my opinion

I am unsure about ME2 due to the fact i havent played it. Tho i felt ME1 was a lackluster attempt at a futuristic D&D game Neverwinters Nights 2 is superior. I have Mass Effect on the PC and the Elevators uninteresting and bland environments coupled with boring dialogue drove me to boredom. I can see a highish score for Mass Effect being deserved but it just did not float my boat and 8.5 was generous considering the technical difficulty's the game had on the 360.

1.) The universe / lore created by Bioware is interesting and captivating.

2.) The writing and characters are superb.

3.) It used to be a PC/360 game.

4.) It's now on PS3.

5.) You can have sex with aliens.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Meh. Objectively, there are games with better gameplay, better sidequests, less tech issues, and a better story that doesn't end in you killing a space Terminator. I mean, you can claim opinion, and that's fine. I mean, if you like Avatar better than Citizen Kane, that's fine. But, objectively, Citizen Kane is the better film.DarkLink77

I loved them both but ME2 is seriously my favorite game of all time. :D

ME should have scored a 9.0 and ME2 a 9.5. Best new IP this gen!

Because they are awesome games. Gamespot rated both games below what most reviewers rated them, and way below what I would rate them. I preferred ME2 because the leaps forward in gameplay more than made up for the removal of some of the more tedious RPG elements.

10/10 for both without a second thought

Well most people are intelligent enough to know that GS and other site's reviews are just opinions, and for the most part wrong opinions. I'd personally give ME a 9.5, and ME2 a 10.0. I don't really care what GS rated them as, especially since GS gave GTA4 a 10, and at the most it deserved an 8.0.

ME2 is the only game I can remember in a long time playing through as many times as I have. On last count 5 times and on the 6th play though trying to finish on insanity level. Most games now are not worth a second play though let alone a third, or fourth.

The games also appeal to a wide range of players, my wife, and daughter have both played both games through multiple times. I can't think of any other game I own that they have done that on, except Dragon Age.

ME2 is the perfect blend of RPG, Action Adventure, and TPS. ME does the same things, but with more story, and more RPG elements.

I was excited for it after playing Dragon Age, but I felt it was highly overrated. ME > ME2 for me.TheRapture

[QUOTE="TheRapture"]I was excited for it after playing Dragon Age, but I felt it was highly overrated. ME > ME2 for me.godzillavskong

I don't know why people seem to like Mass Effect 2 ,but hate Dragon Age. I loved Dragon Age and played through the game at least four times. I could only manage to struggle through Mass Effect 2 once despite having multiple saves from the original. The graphics on the PC version of Dragon Age were fine for an RPG,so I am beginning to think this concensus is coming from people who played the console versions.

Mass Effect 2 was painfully linear imo.

Meh. ME1 was god awful in my opinion. ME2 was mediocre, but still better than the first.

I give them 8.5 because I judge them as RPGs.Parasomniac

The second one wasn't even an RPG

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]I give them 8.5 because I judge them as RPGs.UnknownSniper65

The second one wasn't even an RPG

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"][QUOTE="TheRapture"]I was excited for it after playing Dragon Age, but I felt it was highly overrated. ME > ME2 for me.UnknownSniper65

I don't know why people seem to like Mass Effect 2 ,but hate Dragon Age. I loved Dragon Age and played through the game at least four times. I could only manage to struggle through Mass Effect 2 once despite having multiple saves from the original. The graphics on the PC version of Dragon Age were fine for an RPG,so I am beginning to think this concensus is coming from people who played the console versions.

Mass Effect 2 was painfully linear imo.

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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]I give them 8.5 because I judge them as RPGs.Parasomniac

The second one wasn't even an RPG

TBH I can see why it would be praised alot but ME2 was a real letdown IMO. The game felt too shooter focused and they bogged down all the RPG gameplay elements to basically nothing. Most of the choices in the game don't even matter except for the last few...

A big problem with Mass Effect 2 is instead of fixing the RPG elements from Mass Effect they simply removed them all from the game.