Why all the love for ME 1 and 2?

Well, personally, I thought the first game was pretty boring. I haven't tried the second one but I'm not all that interested..

Regarding the reviews, I disagreed with VanOrd's score for the first, though he does have valid complaints (the Mako, and the bugginess overall) but during my first playthrough, those things didn't bother me at all. They were so miniscule in the grand scheme of things, I wouldn't knock off 1.5 points.

Then Mass Effect 2 came along, and that crapped all over Mass Effect. Sure they removed most of the RPG elements (if not all), but that's not ME2's weakness. If anything, it makes it a different, and IMO more enjoyable experience. I love KoTOR, I love Dragon Age, and I like finding loot in Mass Effect, but having to deal with item management was more trouble than it was worth. Too many times I want to press on with the story (Mass Effect's greatest strength) then I'd be caught at the inventory menu comparing items, trying to deal them out to my crew members, making sure I'm not selling or destroying the wrong item. In terms of pace, Kotor and Dragon Age are much slower than Mass Effect. There's more downtime, to just talk to your crew and take a break and do some sidequests. ME1 sidequests are garbage, doable, but garbage. The fantastic main story makes up for that, in my eyes. Even moreso in Mass Effect 2, where stuff just keeps happening.

I like RPGs just fine, but I think what made Mass Effect 1 for me was the setting, the writing, and the character interaction. When I came away from watching my very first ME E3 clip with Shepard in the bar, I got really excited for the game. Yeah, KoTOR had talk options, but having a fully-voiced player character sweetens the experience.

So that being said, in terms of GS scores, there is no way Mass Effect 2 is just .5 higher than ME1. I wouldn't give ME2 a perfect, but as an improvement over the first in every way, it deserves more recognition.

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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"] I was the exact opposite. I was excited for Dragon Age after playing ME2, then feeling let down after finally getting my copy of Dragon Age. While Dragon Age seemed to have much more RPG elements, it seemed a lot less polished then ME. Maybe ME was Bioware's golden horse if you will, but I felt ME was leaps above Dragon Age.Also, in terms of graphics, Dragon Age looked last gen compared to ME2.jg4xchamp

I don't know why people seem to like Mass Effect 2 ,but hate Dragon Age. I loved Dragon Age and played through the game at least four times. I could only manage to struggle through Mass Effect 2 once despite having multiple saves from the original. The graphics on the PC version of Dragon Age were fine for an RPG,so I am beginning to think this concensus is coming from people who played the console versions.

Mass Effect 2 was painfully linear imo.

I just thought since Bioware made ME2 look so wonderful on the 360 what happened to Dragon Age? godzillavskong

[QUOTE="godzillavskong"]I just thought since Bioware made ME2 look so wonderful on the 360 what happened to Dragon Age? Parasomniac

honestly im not a fan of wrpgs except oblivion but me looks avg to me ill check it out in jan for ps3 but it didnt even get a 9.5 but Uncharted 2 did jus saying it needs to step its game up its slipping right now prob why it went multi plat people should stop lying to themselves just be real its avg game nothing morecoltgames

ME2 is clearly underated here on GS. I see the game this year that recieved the same scores as ME2 or higher and it's make me sad.
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One of the problens with GS score policy besides the fact that it doesn't exist is that they praize a 10 much more them one should.

ME2 is clearly underated here on GS. I see the game this year that recieved the same scores as ME2 or higher and it's make me sad.
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One of the problens with GS score policy besides the fact that it doesn't exist is that they praize a 10 much more them one should.

padaporra

I love the Mass Effect series and I'm ok with the scores. I don't think it's perfect but it's my favorite series of this gen. I love the setting, the music and the combat (in both games). It has some great characters and the story isn't mindnumbingly stupid. It's my favorite genre done in an old school type of style.

Did I say it wasn't perfect? I lied.

Did I say it wasn't perfect? I lied.

heretrix

Perfect game isn't perfect. But when you look closely enough, no game ever is.

I love the Mass Effect series and I'm ok with the scores. I don't think it's perfect but it's my favorite series of this gen. I love the setting, the music and the combat (in both games). It has some great characters and the story isn't mindnumbingly stupid. It's my favorite genre done in an old school type of style.

Did I say it wasn't perfect? I lied.

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Did I say it wasn't perfect? I lied.

mo0ksi

Perfect game isn't perfect. But when you look closely enough, no game ever is.

Because it's BiowareDarkknight_13x

Agreed...that says it all.:P

Wow I haven't heard the whole "This is GS and we go by GS scores" for a while now, good to see someone bringing back the dumbest argument in SW history.

First off we all have opinions, and my opinion, as well as the general opinion, is that ME2 is an amazing game. It's currently my GOTG, tied with Super Mario Galaxy 2, Demon's Souls, and Starcraft II.

Second, on Metacritic it has a 96, putting in the elite league of games scoring above a 95, along with both SMGs, GTAIV (although I think we all disagree), Uncharted 2, Bioshock, Half-Life 2, Twilight Princess (GC version), and Resident Evil 4. So it's one of the highest rated games there. I'm sure most of GS' staff likes it more than a 9.0 rating indicates, just one employee wasn't completely blown away. So what?

[QUOTE="Darkknight_13x"]Because it's Biowaretopsemag55

Agreed...that says it all.:P

Because GS scores are only the final decider when people agree with them.

I would of given 1 a 9.5 and 2 a 9.

It has the best story this genCleanPlayer

storyTELLING

The story itself is average.

There both good games, but no where near as good as everyone makes them up to be. ME1 is like a 7 to me, the story was not that good and the combat can get annoying at times, but it was still good. ME2 is like a 8, it was better but i just felt something was missing.

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Did I say it wasn't perfect? I lied.

Perfect game isn't perfect. But when you look closely enough, no game ever is.

9.5 on pc, 9.0 on console...nothing, and i mean NOTHING deserves a 10.

Last years GOTY got 9.0.

It's a great idea plagued by lack of any real gameplay.

FragTycoon

I loved them. My only problem with them is that I was never able to get myself to do a second play through. Iantheone

I agree when it comes to me1. I literally just finished a second playthrough of it last night and I was just itching to finish it. Between the bugs and repetition, its a hard bone to swallow. I had to do it though for me2. Also, I'd say both scores on both platforms are right on the money.

The mass effect series made me play a game for 11hrs straight the 1st time this ever happened to me and well i guess u could say i lost my virginity from the awesomeness and epicness of the last stage and cutscene of ME2 so much o i still get the same thrill every time i play it

ALL 10 PLAYTHROUGHS!!!!

Great games.

The mass effect series made me play a game for 11hrs straight the 1st time this ever happened to me and well i guess u could say i lost my virginity from the awesomeness and epicness of the last stage and cutscene of ME2 so much o i still get the same thrill every time i play it

ALL 10 PLAYTHROUGHS!!!!

sonofsmeagle

Lol what?

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The mass effect series made me play a game for 11hrs straight the 1st time this ever happened to me and well i guess u could say i lost my virginity from the awesomeness and epicness of the last stage and cutscene of ME2 so much o i still get the same thrill every time i play it

ALL 10 PLAYTHROUGHS!!!!

WhenCicadasCry

Lol what?

Trust me, you don't want to know.

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The mass effect series made me play a game for 11hrs straight the 1st time this ever happened to me and well i guess u could say i lost my virginity from the awesomeness and epicness of the last stage and cutscene of ME2 so much o i still get the same thrill every time i play it

ALL 10 PLAYTHROUGHS!!!!

Mograine

Lol what?

Trust me, you don't want to know.

He makes it sound like he made love to his 360... Oh god.

They're great games, I prefered ME1 - ME2 felt less of an RPG - but both worthy of AAA.

Biggest problem with them I had is that they felt too similar and at the same time totally inferior to KOTOR.

I think 9 is the right score... the game was too short imo

9.5 is good. I wish it was kinda longer with more sidequests actually...

9.0 mining game was horrible, and the game left a lot to be desired

Last years GOTY got 9.0.

dommeus