Why Are People Justifying M$ Charging For Used Games?

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#1 Heroldp813
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I dont get it. Its not okay regardless of how you try to put it.

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#2 kuraimen
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They're called lemmings for a reason.
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Lemmings enjoy getting Xboned by M$.

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I don't know. I wouldn't be justifying Nintendo if they pulled this.
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"Brand Loyalty" or some fanboy nonsense.
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#7 NathanDrakeSwag
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They try to justify paying online fees too. Lems are braindead.

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#8 Miketheman83
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Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.
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I ask myself that every time I read these threads
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Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Miketheman83
Nope.

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Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Miketheman83
So much fail in this post....
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.heeweesRus

Nope.

Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.
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#13 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Miketheman83

Nope.

Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.

Wrong again. Third party developers will not ignore the PS4 if it has a decent install base.....
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#14 AmazonTreeBoa
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I dont get it. Its not okay regardless of how you try to put it.

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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Miketheman83

Nope.

Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.

Why should anyone listen to what you have to say when you go around lying by saying Xbox One will not require an internet connection?

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#16 AmazonTreeBoa
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They try to justify paying online fees too. Lems are braindead.

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Those online fees are justified. You get TV. :P [spoiler] I freakin had to. [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Nope.LJS9502_basic
Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.

Wrong again. Third party developers will not ignore the PS4 if it has a decent install base.....

you guys are crazy thinking that they will let one system do one thing and the other do something else. If the X1 does it then so will the PS4. Read between the lines.
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some lems tried to justify rrod, live fees and lack of exclusives... charging for used games probably wouldnt bother them...how does m$ get away with it? I don't know,
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#19 V3rciS
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Lems are bots... they agree with whatever their masters says (M$). In this case M$ just wants ''a little bit'' more money so they're trying to convince others now  that used games are killing the industry.

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I think people need to wait until they hear the full details before really judging something. There's been a lot of rumours making things sound worse than they might end up being, but frankly it's entirely Microsofts fault for not properly clarifying how stuff is going to work, you can't just make statements that half explain something which is CLEARLY going to make a ton of people upset.

 

I'm hoping that at the worst it's just something similar to online passes only built into the console. Sony have already said used games would be up to the publisher, it could be exactly for the same for MS, they've just been failing miserably at explaining it, you put a used disk in, the console detects it and depending on the game it acts accordingly.

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Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Miketheman83
oh you're not justifying it. You're just saying it's okay as long as SONY is doing it too? SO is XBL: fees okay as long as SONY is doing it too? Oh wait SONY isn't doing it....Is it still okay? Next time try making sense and stop posting paradoxes
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#22 Shinobi120
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Because they're simple-minded idiots, that's why.

[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Miketheman83

Nope.

Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.

LMAO. Do you honestly believe that they can afford to ignore PS4? Not a chance. Heck, they're barely making a profit off of 360/PS3 combined.

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[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.

Wrong again. Third party developers will not ignore the PS4 if it has a decent install base.....

you guys are crazy thinking that they will let one system do one thing and the other do something else. If the X1 does it then so will the PS4. Read between the lines.

MS supporter hunting justification?
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I think people need to wait until they hear the full details before really judging something. There's been a lot of rumours making things sound worse than they might end up being, but frankly it's entirely Microsofts fault for not properly clarifying how stuff is going to work, you can't just make statements that half explain something which is CLEARLY going to make a ton of people upset.

 

I'm hoping that at the worst it's just something similar to online passes only built into the console. Sony have already said used games would be up to the publisher, it could be exactly for the same for MS, they've just been failing miserably at explaining it, you put a used disk in, the console detects it and depending on the game it acts accordingly.

bobbetybob
MS did respond about that....
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Some are emotionally attached to a piece of plastic.
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who justified it?
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Nope.

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Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.

Why should anyone listen to what you have to say when you go around lying by saying Xbox One will not require an internet connection?

The Xbox One will not require an internet connection to play single player games. Greenberg clearly states that in his latest interview. www.gamertagradio.com/new/2013/05/episode-385-podcast-exclusive-aaron-greenberg-on-xbox-one/
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#28 Miketheman83
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Because they're simple-minded idiots, that's why.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="heeweesRus"]Nope.

Shinobi120

Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.

LMAO. Do you honestly believe that they can afford to ignore PS4? Not a chance. Heck, they're barely making a profit off of 360/PS3 combined.

Publishers hate the used games market. If one console supports it and one console doesn't who do you think they will support? Use you're brain dude. Sony knows that so if Microsoft does it, so will they.
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]

I think people need to wait until they hear the full details before really judging something. There's been a lot of rumours making things sound worse than they might end up being, but frankly it's entirely Microsofts fault for not properly clarifying how stuff is going to work, you can't just make statements that half explain something which is CLEARLY going to make a ton of people upset.

 

I'm hoping that at the worst it's just something similar to online passes only built into the console. Sony have already said used games would be up to the publisher, it could be exactly for the same for MS, they've just been failing miserably at explaining it, you put a used disk in, the console detects it and depending on the game it acts accordingly.

LJS9502_basic
MS did respond about that....

They did but they still haven't cleared up the specifics of their online/used game system, all they've really said is "you can still trade in games and use them at friends houses"
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#30 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

Because they're simple-minded idiots, that's why.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.Miketheman83

LMAO. Do you honestly believe that they can afford to ignore PS4? Not a chance. Heck, they're barely making a profit off of 360/PS3 combined.

Publishers hate the used games market. If one console supports it and one console doesn't who do you think they will support? Use you're brain dude. Sony knows that so if Microsoft does it, so will they.

Hate it all they want.....they want the profit that comes with selling games. They aren't going to ignore the PS4.
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#31 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]

I think people need to wait until they hear the full details before really judging something. There's been a lot of rumours making things sound worse than they might end up being, but frankly it's entirely Microsofts fault for not properly clarifying how stuff is going to work, you can't just make statements that half explain something which is CLEARLY going to make a ton of people upset.

 

I'm hoping that at the worst it's just something similar to online passes only built into the console. Sony have already said used games would be up to the publisher, it could be exactly for the same for MS, they've just been failing miserably at explaining it, you put a used disk in, the console detects it and depending on the game it acts accordingly.

bobbetybob
MS did respond about that....

They did but they still haven't cleared up the specifics of their online/used game system, all they've really said is "you can still trade in games and use them at friends houses"

They did say there would be a fee....that's enough for me not to buy the system.
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who justified it? mems_1224

Why do 'you' even care? I thought your parents were rich... you're always keep saying that only poor people complain about fees!

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SONY and Gamestop an easily take advantage. Gamestop enjoy robbing people when buying/selling used games and if SONY wants to make used games possible then maybe they can both work something out.
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[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

Because they're simple-minded idiots, that's why.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.Miketheman83

LMAO. Do you honestly believe that they can afford to ignore PS4? Not a chance. Heck, they're barely making a profit off of 360/PS3 combined.

Publishers hate the used games market. If one console supports it and one console doesn't who do you think they will support? Use you're brain dude. Sony knows that so if Microsoft does it, so will they.

Are you blind, or just stupid? If they even try to go "Xbox One exclusive" because of blocking used titles, they'll risk losing a ton of money more so than before.

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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

Because they're simple-minded idiots, that's why.

Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used gamesaa they will get no support from 3rd party developers.Miketheman83

LMAO. Do you honestly believe that they can afford to ignore PS4? Not a chance. Heck, they're barely making a profit off of 360/PS3 combined.

Publishers hate the used games market. If one console supports it and one console doesn't who do you think they will support? Use you're brain dude. Sony knows that so if Microsoft does it, so will they.

Dude, publishers aren't going to ignore the PS4 market simply because of used games. If the PS4 has used games and X1 doesn't that alone already wins over a huge portion of the market for SONY. Use your brain.
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.Miketheman83

Why should anyone listen to what you have to say when you go around lying by saying Xbox One will not require an internet connection?

The Xbox One will not require an internet connection to play single player games. Greenberg clearly states that in his latest interview. www.gamertagradio.com/new/2013/05/episode-385-podcast-exclusive-aaron-greenberg-on-xbox-one/

Having to connect once every 24 hours is still a required internet connection.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] MS did respond about that....

They did but they still haven't cleared up the specifics of their online/used game system, all they've really said is "you can still trade in games and use them at friends houses"

They did say there would be a fee....that's enough for me not to buy the system.

Not that I've seen, there was a big report by MCV stating a lot of rumours coming from retail sources which MS then shot down, albeit in their usual "we're not really sure what we're doing" kind of way.
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SONY and Gamestop an easily take advantage. Gamestop enjoy robbing people when buying/selling used games and if SONY wants to make used games possible then maybe they can both work something out. xxSONYGAMERxx
Pretty much this.. Sony and GameStop could make a KILLING off of this.
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They're called lemmings for a reason.kuraimen

Lemmings enjoy getting Xboned by M$.

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[QUOTE="heeweesRus"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Miketheman83

Nope.

Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.

 

And you know this... how?  Sounds like the same tripe about how Nintendo and Sony HAD to follow MS into paid online multiplayer.... how's that working out?

 

Stop acting like a victim that must take what these companies give you.  You have options, they have none beyond what you give them to get your $$$ (which is their sole purpose).  If you choose to support platforms without anti-consumer practices, the games will follow. 

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Do lemmings still exist? I thought they became an extinct species after May 21st.  

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#42 coasterguy65
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I don't think anyone is trying to justify it. How could you? Any kind of used game fee is bad for gamers.

What is rather funny though is how when Sony was doing the same kind of thing with it's first party online passes. The PS3 fanboys were trying to justify how it was a good thing. Since used games were so evil, and buying them stole food from the mouths of the developers children, etc. Of course now that MS is doing it, now it's a bad thing. Thread after thread must be made denouncing this evil.  

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When i was like 15 i used to justify random shits for the one console i owned. I believe most that justify this kind of stupidity are under 17y old.
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#44 santoron
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[QUOTE="Shinobi120"]

Because they're simple-minded idiots, that's why.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.Miketheman83

LMAO. Do you honestly believe that they can afford to ignore PS4? Not a chance. Heck, they're barely making a profit off of 360/PS3 combined.

Publishers hate the used games market. If one console supports it and one console doesn't who do you think they will support? Use you're brain dude. Sony knows that so if Microsoft does it, so will they.

 

How many 8th gen consoles are there again?  You seem to keep implying two, and that's wrong.  You seem to think since MS is going this route the others Must follow, and Nintendo has shown that to be wrong.  Do you like being wrong?

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Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Miketheman83

Sony never said they would be doing that at all. Its something you lemmings are hoping for after hearing Geoff - dorito man himself Keighly "SPECULATING" about them doing that...because xbone was getting bashed too much and didn't want a one sided show.

 

Sony most likley won't do this, it goes against their whole stragegy so far.. if they were going to they would of done it to vita. And don't say it will be mandatory becuase of publishers because the wii-u isn't doing it... So for right now its just a pipe dream by lemmings to level the playing field.

 

It doesn't make sense though, you would think they would be like: "ok this xbone sucks, and I won't support it"... instead they are like "this xboneis gonna loose and i want gmaing to go down the toilet so I wish the PS4 would make the same mistakes so my savior ms will when the console war and give us more tv and call of duty."...lol

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"]who justified it? V3rciS


Why do 'you' even care? I thought your parents were rich... you're always keep saying that only poor people complain about fees!


By the way that makes mems_1224 one of the people who tried to justify it. Saying that only poor people complain is a poor excuse.

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#47 maoman
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Is microsoft the one charging for this fee or the publisher? or both?

it sucks anyway but i want to know

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#48 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]Whos justifying it? I think its a very bad thing, but its something Sony will be doing also. All gamers get screwed.Midnightshade29


Sony never said they would be doing that at all. Its something you lemmings are hoping for after hearing Geoff - dorito man himself Keighly "SPECULATING" about them doing that...because xbone was getting bashed too much and didn't want a one sided show.

 

Sony most likley won't do this, it goes against their whole stragegy so far.. if they were going to they would of done it to vita. And don't say it will be mandatory becuase of publishers because the wii-u isn't doing it... So for right now its just a pipe dream by lemmings to level the playing field.

 

It doesn't make sense though, you would think they would be like: "ok this xbone sucks, and I won't support it"... instead they are like "this xboneis gonna loose and i want gmaing to go down the toilet so I wish the PS4 would make the same mistakes so my savior ms will when the console war and give us more tv and call of duty."...lol

Why haven't they said anything about it recently then? If they weren't blocking used games they would have said so.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Miketheman83"] Why has Sony been so quiet about it? During all this Xbox controversy they could have come out and said "PS4 will not block used games" and looked like heroes. Second, if they dont block used games they will get no support from 3rd party developers.darksusperia
Wrong again. Third party developers will not ignore the PS4 if it has a decent install base.....

you guys are crazy thinking that they will let one system do one thing and the other do something else. If the X1 does it then so will the PS4. Read between the lines.

That doesn't make any damn sense at all...

SONY will do whatever the hell they want to do... It is not up to the devs. You really think the devs wont release games on the PS4 because of different policies? Especially if SONY has a larger install base? Man people are ignorant.

Different companies have different policies. Microsofts policies will most likely not be followed by SONY especially after they already confirmed used games would exist. The most likely ting is that SONY will use online passes with the devs who want them. I have no problme paying $10 to activate an online pass... that is WAY different then one account per game and full price if you want a different account.

SONY has already said they would "do the right thing" everybody knows what the righ thing is... MS is NOT doing the right thing. MS's NEW game sales will suffer because of their policy. SONY will sell MORE new games by keeping used games in the mix because they will have the larger fanbase this gen.

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#50 Miketheman83
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[QUOTE="darksusperia"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Wrong again. Third party developers will not ignore the PS4 if it has a decent install base.....WitIsWisdom

you guys are crazy thinking that they will let one system do one thing and the other do something else. If the X1 does it then so will the PS4. Read between the lines.

That doesn't make any damn sense at all...

SONY will do whatever the hell they want to do... It is not up to the devs. You really think the devs wont release games on the PS4 because of different policies? Especially if SONY has a larger install base? Man people are ignorant.

Different companies have different policies. Microsofts policies will most likely not be followed by SONY especially after they already confirmed used games would exist. The most likely ting is that SONY will use online passes with the devs who want them. I have no problme paying $10 to activate an online pass... that is WAY different then one account per game and full price if you want a different account.

SONY has already said they would "do the right thing" everybody knows what the righ thing is... MS is NOT doing the right thing. MS's NEW game sales will suffer because of their policy. SONY will sell MORE new games by keeping used games in the mix because they will have the larger fanbase this gen.

Everybody but Sony fans know that the Xbox is running the industry right now. Sony have between mysteriously silent about the issue as of late. If Microsoft blocks used games Sony will follow suit in fear of being left behind by publishers.