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#1 LoRoseUp
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well, why? i hear all these trivial discussions about sales, i doubt more than 1% of you on this forum are affected by it. this should not be the basis on which someone is owned. the games should be, i am a ps3 fanboy but i gotta admit that 360 has a better lineup at the present, that will change with time. Wii owners well i feel sorry that the only decent games you get are from ninty only. these debates about ownage over sales is stupid, you dont get a goalsharing check from either of these companies.

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#2 gamefreakomega
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They're not important, unless they get so bad that they start noticeably affecting any one company's output.
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#3 waynehead895
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Who doesn't like sales. I mean 25% off of everything in Nordstrom is a huge sale imo.
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#4 Riverwolf007
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In the past sales determined 3rd party support but since that no longer is a factor who cares any more.

It's just a wierd gen in many ways, the 360 is going to slip into last place and since the owners buy games like crazy it makes no difference at all and strangely enough MS is still adding new 3rd party devs all the time instead of losing dev interest.

Strange days.

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Well, my father is Jack Tretton... my uncle is Aaron Greenburg, and my godfather is Shiggy.

It's a family thing, I guess.

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#6 POJO_MOFO
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They are not important to me, I could care less. I have a PS3 now because of the features that it has and it is reliable. I had a 360, and will get one again when it is proven reliable I have never had a Wii, mainly because I have never seen one in a store. But I also dont really think the Wii has anything to offer me. I have a PSP and becaus of the features I dont have DS because it doesnt have anything that interests me. So out of the 5 current gen platforms, I own the 2 worst selling systems, and I am just fine with that.
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#7 munu9
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Well, usually with a console that has more sales. Developers are willing to try risky things with. Like new IP's. Which could possibly be revolutionary games. And they're also willing to port games. Sales matter, it's not just a fanboy thing.
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#8 johnnyblazed88
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They aren't I'm pretty sure 360 will be in last place when it to sales by the end of this gen but as long as they keep crankin out good games on a consistent basis im a happy camper
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#9 CB4McGusto
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I'm not a Nintendo loyalist so I can't tell you.
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#10 Hexagon_777
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well, why? i hear all these trivial discussions about sales, i doubt more than 1% of you on this forum are affected by it. this should not be the basis on which someone is owned. the games should be, i am a ps3 fanboy but i gotta admit that 360 has a better lineup at the present, that will change with time. Wii owners well i feel sorry that the only decent games you get are from ninty only. these debates about ownage over sales is stupid, you dont get a goalsharing check from either of these companies.

LoRoseUp

This is why! :D
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#11 SpruceCaboose
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They aren't to me, but to the System War they can be quite relevant.
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#12 LoRoseUp
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[QUOTE="LoRoseUp"]

well, why? i hear all these trivial discussions about sales, i doubt more than 1% of you on this forum are affected by it. this should not be the basis on which someone is owned. the games should be, i am a ps3 fanboy but i gotta admit that 360 has a better lineup at the present, that will change with time. Wii owners well i feel sorry that the only decent games you get are from ninty only. these debates about ownage over sales is stupid, you dont get a goalsharing check from either of these companies.

Hexagon_777


This is why! :D

we all know why sales are important to the companies that produce theses consoles, but why are they important to you? do you get check? I think sales are the weakest form of ownage, with games being the highest form of ownage. So again people, WHY ARE SALES IMPORTANT TO YOU?

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#13 munu9
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="LoRoseUp"]

well, why? i hear all these trivial discussions about sales, i doubt more than 1% of you on this forum are affected by it. this should not be the basis on which someone is owned. the games should be, i am a ps3 fanboy but i gotta admit that 360 has a better lineup at the present, that will change with time. Wii owners well i feel sorry that the only decent games you get are from ninty only. these debates about ownage over sales is stupid, you dont get a goalsharing check from either of these companies.

LoRoseUp


This is why! :D

we all know why sales are important to the companies that produce theses consoles, but why are they important to you? do you get check? I think sales are the weakest form of ownage, with games being the highest form of ownage. So again people, WHY ARE SALES IMPORTANT TO YOU?

Well, for non-fanboys. It's good for all the consoles to have good sales. Good sales increase competitive-ness. And like I said in my last post, could lead to better, more innovative games.

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#14 mlbslugger86
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i could care less about sales numbers
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#15 sargentbotk
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Good sales= Sequel

Other than that, I could careless about sales.

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#16 fishfake
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cows and lemming need sales every week so they can say wich cosole is better based on sales

sheep dont need them anymore course they are too high (maybe it change one day )

developer need sales too if they want to sell there games

non fanboys need sales to see if there is hope for more support in the future

SW need sales too have a winner

yes sales are needed ! not for everyone but for the most HERE in SW

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#17 deangallop
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Sales are not important to real gamers. The least sold console this gen could easily be the best console with the most great games this generation.

It's as simple as that .

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#18 Syk0_k03r
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sales mean nothing

its just something fanboys can back up their systems with

a better selling system doesnt mean its better...

seriously what do u think sells better?

fords or lamborginis?

what do u think is better?

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#19 heretrix
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sheep dont need them anymore course they are too high (maybe it change one day )

fishfake
That's pretty much all the Sheep have :|
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#20 ogvampire
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sales = popularity. i like to know whats popular in the world of videogames

i can also ask why are game reviews so important to you?

i mean, its not gonna help you enjoy your game any more or any less.

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#21 fishfake
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[QUOTE="fishfake"]

sheep dont need them anymore course they are too high (maybe it change one day )

heretrix

That's pretty much all the Sheep have :|

dont you think its so clear that nobody need too talk about sales for the wii ?

if you look at sw wars you dont find much sales topics started from sheep but every day there are comparisons between 360 sales and ps3 sales !

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#22 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="fishfake"]

sheep dont need them anymore course they are too high (maybe it change one day )

heretrix

That's pretty much all the Sheep have :|

MadWorld and Wii Music....hello?!

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#23 LoRoseUp
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sales = popularity. i like to know whats popular in the world of videogames

i can also ask why are game reviews so important to you?

i mean, its not gonna help you enjoy your game any more or any less.

ogvampire

sad thing is i use to pay attention to reviews and would not buy or play games based on a review, i have missed out on so many great games because of that thinking, now i could careless about a review.

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#24 Vectah_Sigma
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Until I start getting paid, Console sales dont mean a thing to me.
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#25 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="fishfake"]

sheep dont need them anymore course they are too high (maybe it change one day )

SpruceCaboose

That's pretty much all the Sheep have :|

MadWorld and Wii Music....hello?!

In response to Madworld- MY EYES!

In response to Wii Music- My Ears!

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#26 LoRoseUp
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Until I start getting paid, Console sales dont mean a thing to me.Vectah_Sigma

AMEN!!!!!!! this is exactly what i am talking about, we dont get paid to argue about that garbage. when they cut me a check then i will play the sales game with everyone.

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#27 wiretoss
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Sales are very important.
Without sales, where is the funding to create new games for the consumer?

"Sales don't matter!"
Um, yes they do. Without them, you'd be just another Dreamcast.
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#28 SER69
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Sales is what is moving the industry forward. Without sales gaming exist no more.
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#29 POJO_MOFO
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Sales are very important.
Without sales, where is the funding to create new games for the consumer?

"Sales don't matter!"
Um, yes they do. Without them, you'd be just another Dreamcast.wiretoss
I would LOVE another Dreamcast!!!
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Who said they were ????
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#31 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="LoRoseUp"]

well, why? i hear all these trivial discussions about sales, i doubt more than 1% of you on this forum are affected by it. this should not be the basis on which someone is owned. the games should be, i am a ps3 fanboy but i gotta admit that 360 has a better lineup at the present, that will change with time. Wii owners well i feel sorry that the only decent games you get are from ninty only. these debates about ownage over sales is stupid, you dont get a goalsharing check from either of these companies.

LoRoseUp


This is why! :D

we all know why sales are important to the companies that produce theses consoles, but why are they important to you? do you get check? I think sales are the weakest form of ownage, with games being the highest form of ownage. So again people, WHY ARE SALES IMPORTANT TO YOU?


Reading comprehension means a lot these days but obviously not on System Wars. :roll:

I will make it especially easy for you:

Sales have mattered in every generation so far. However, now that the Wii is winning, no one cares for them anymore it seems. Why is that so? Is it not common sense that developers will support the console with the largest userbase? They would certainly reach more people that way which increases the chances of their games selling more. Furthermore, the PS2 did get trash games as well, but they also had a few gems here and there.

Yes, we are gamers and we care about games. Nevertheless, the link between sales and games is apparent undeniable. The more games there are, the higher the chances that one of them will be a good game. The PS1 and the PS2 are perfect examples of this. I do not understand why we suddenly exclude sales. People comment with silly remarks such as "I have no stock at Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft, so why should I care if their consoles sell a lot? I get nothing from it." O rly?

Sales mean that your console will

1. Receive support.

2. That the chances of your system getting good games is increased.

3. That your console will have a longer lifespan if it does well.

Point 3 is actually quite interesting. Why do you think Microsoft dropped support for the Xbox so early? Well, they had to get a headstart. That's what they thought anyway. The PS3 would be one heck of a challenge after all. If the Xbox had done better in sales, it would have received a higher amount of support, higher chances of getting good games and a longer lifespan.

Oh, and the Wii and the PS3 have only been out for what? 9 months? Or is it 10? Nobody expected much from the Wii in the beginning, did they? Developers were basically overrun with the success of the Wii.

Hexagon_777

This is why sales are important. If you are a gamer, these points will matter to you.
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#32 rybe1025
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Who doesn't like sales. I mean 25% off of everything in Nordstrom is a huge sale imo.waynehead895
that was pretty good. Made me :lol: for real
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#33 angelkimne
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Well, my father is Jack Tretton... my uncle is Aaron Greenburg, and my godfather is Shiggy.

It's a family thing, I guess.

carljohnson3456

Wow....

What a family.

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#34 LoRoseUp
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[QUOTE="LoRoseUp"][QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="LoRoseUp"]

well, why? i hear all these trivial discussions about sales, i doubt more than 1% of you on this forum are affected by it. this should not be the basis on which someone is owned. the games should be, i am a ps3 fanboy but i gotta admit that 360 has a better lineup at the present, that will change with time. Wii owners well i feel sorry that the only decent games you get are from ninty only. these debates about ownage over sales is stupid, you dont get a goalsharing check from either of these companies.

Hexagon_777


This is why! :D

we all know why sales are important to the companies that produce theses consoles, but why are they important to you? do you get check? I think sales are the weakest form of ownage, with games being the highest form of ownage. So again people, WHY ARE SALES IMPORTANT TO YOU?


Reading comprehension means a lot these days but obviously not on System Wars. :roll:

I will make it especially easy for you:

Sales have mattered in every generation so far. However, now that the Wii is winning, no one cares for them anymore it seems. Why is that so? Is it not common sense that developers will support the console with the largest userbase? They would certainly reach more people that way which increases the chances of their games selling more. Furthermore, the PS2 did get trash games as well, but they also had a few gems here and there.

Yes, we are gamers and we care about games. Nevertheless, the link between sales and games is apparent undeniable. The more games there are, the higher the chances that one of them will be a good game. The PS1 and the PS2 are perfect examples of this. I do not understand why we suddenly exclude sales. People comment with silly remarks such as "I have no stock at Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft, so why should I care if their consoles sell a lot? I get nothing from it." O rly?

Sales mean that your console will

1. Receive support.

2. That the chances of your system getting good games is increased.

3. That your console will have a longer lifespan if it does well.

Point 3 is actually quite interesting. Why do you think Microsoft dropped support for the Xbox so early? Well, they had to get a headstart. That's what they thought anyway. The PS3 would be one heck of a challenge after all. If the Xbox had done better in sales, it would have received a higher amount of support, higher chances of getting good games and a longer lifespan.

Oh, and the Wii and the PS3 have only been out for what? 9 months? Or is it 10? Nobody expected much from the Wii in the beginning, did they? Developers were basically overrun with the success of the Wii.

Hexagon_777


This is why sales are important. If you are a gamer, these points will matter to you.

1. i dont want to read a link.

2. i asked what they meant to you not the masses

3. yeah obviously comprehension is not high on system wars priority list

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is sales were important to me then the wii would be too.
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[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="LoRoseUp"]

well, why? i hear all these trivial discussions about sales, i doubt more than 1% of you on this forum are affected by it. this should not be the basis on which someone is owned. the games should be, i am a ps3 fanboy but i gotta admit that 360 has a better lineup at the present, that will change with time. Wii owners well i feel sorry that the only decent games you get are from ninty only. these debates about ownage over sales is stupid, you dont get a goalsharing check from either of these companies.

LoRoseUp


This is why! :D

we all know why sales are important to the companies that produce theses consoles, but why are they important to you? do you get check? I think sales are the weakest form of ownage, with games being the highest form of ownage. So again people, WHY ARE SALES IMPORTANT TO YOU?

No sales = no new games. That affects me because I can't play games if they don't even exist. You fail.

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#37 Cicatraz_ESP
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I don't claim ownage over sales, but they DO matter. I don't want another Dreamcast anytime soon. And games are mosdef affected by sales, it's why the Advent Rising trilogy didn't make it past one game.
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#38 Bigboi500
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sales = popularity. i like to know whats popular in the world of videogames

i can also ask why are game reviews so important to you?

i mean, its not gonna help you enjoy your game any more or any less.

ogvampire
Exactly. If sales are unimportant, reviews should be too. I mean it's one person's opinion for goodness sake.
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They're not. I don't care about how many people are playing the game I'm playing. As long as I am enjoying it.
I'm mainly a singleplayer kinda guy though. Obviously, for multiplayer games, it's a little different...
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#40 vicmackey39
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WTF are you on about?

Sales affect everything. Do you think that the 360 would be stealing all the PS3's exclusives without sales? You think that the DS would be getting more support of any other system without sales?

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#41 Cube_of_MooN
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I don't care about sales really, I only care about the games that come out.
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#42 LoRoseUp
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WTF are you on about?

Sales affect everything. Do you think that the 360 would be stealing all the PS3's exclusives without sales? You think that the DS would be getting more support of any other system without sales?

vicmackey39

clearly this is over most of you users heads, you are totally missing the point, why are they important to you? do you get a check? i am not talking about why they are important to the companies that produce consoles. the point of this stop claiming ownage on sales when you dont get anything but bragging rights on video game forum. its stupid.

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#43 sleepingzzz
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WTF are you on about?

Sales affect everything. Do you think that the 360 would be stealing all the PS3's exclusives without sales? You think that the DS would be getting more support of any other system without sales?

vicmackey39

Vicmackey does have a point. If the sales were really bad for any of these consoles they wouldn't be getting much 3rd party support. It's actually working out pretty good though since they are all relatively doing well. So for now I don't think anyone wasted their money if they purchased any of the 3 current consoles.

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#44 sleepingzzz
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

WTF are you on about?

Sales affect everything. Do you think that the 360 would be stealing all the PS3's exclusives without sales? You think that the DS would be getting more support of any other system without sales?

LoRoseUp

clearly this is over most of you users heads, you are totally missing the point, why are they important to you? do you get a check? i am not talking about why they are important to the companies that produce consoles. the point of this stop claiming ownage on sales when you dont get anything but bragging rights on video game forum. its stupid.

It could very well be effecting you if say for instance you bought a PS3 during the launch. A year later its only sold around 4 million systems. All the 3rd party developers would probably drop their products and switch to a platform with a bigger installment base. Luckily, that doesn't look it will happen. Anyone remember the Dreamcast, 3DO, TurboGraphic? Probably not.

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#45 Hexagon_777
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1. i dont want to read a link.

2. i asked what they meant to you not the masses

3. yeah obviously comprehension is not high on system wars priority list

LoRoseUp

1. You want to avoid facts and ownage by not reading the link, right?

2. No, you asked what they meant to us, the masses. You specifically said that. Check your posts. Additionally, as strange as it sounds, I am with the masses. I would definitely appreciate it if my console(s) received support, had very high chances of getting great games and had a long lifespan.

3. If that is a blow at me, all I can say to that is: Oh, the irony.
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#46 kashim123
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Because higher sales means higher possibility of getting more 3rd Party support.
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#47 Hexagon_777
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

WTF are you on about?

Sales affect everything. Do you think that the 360 would be stealing all the PS3's exclusives without sales? You think that the DS would be getting more support of any other system without sales?

LoRoseUp

clearly this is over most of you users heads, you are totally missing the point, why are they important to you? do you get a check? i am not talking about why they are important to the companies that produce consoles. the point of this stop claiming ownage on sales when you dont get anything but bragging rights on video game forum. its stupid.


False. vicmackey39 and I are perfectly correct. It is you who is missing the most obvious of points, sadly. I'll make it even easier for you now and leave the rest of my lengthy post out and just post the facts:

Sales mean that your console will

1. Receive support.

2. That the chances of your system getting good games is increased.

3. That your console will have a longer lifespan if it does well.

I thought games are so important to you. If the above is not important to you, then I highly doubt you were serious when you said that games matter to you.
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#48 taj7575
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TC, there is nothing that ticks me off more than when people talk about "sales". The only people "sales" are important to is MS, Sony, and Nintendo. It ticks me off so bad when people talk about sales.
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#49 Bubblehash
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Why are sales important to you? LoRoseUp
Sales don't matter to me. The games are what matter to me along with reliability and power of the hardware. When you can figure out a way to play sales, let me know. Then I may have a interest in sales.
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#50 Hexagon_777
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TC, there is nothing that ticks me off more than when people talk about "sales". The only people "sales" are important to is MS, Sony, and Nintendo. It ticks me off so bad when people talk about sales. taj7575

Ignorance at its finest.

Why do I have to use that line at least twice a day on System Wars?