Why aren't PS3 owners buying PS3 games?

The PS3 has an install base of 21 million. Then, why do PS3 games sell poorly? MGS4 was one that sold well compared to others, and is on its way to 2 million in the US. The first PS3 games sold very poorly, and the games even last holiday didn't sell too well. The games get outstanding critic ratings as well, for the most part. So, why aren't the PS3 games selling? They have 21 million users, but can't even break a million game sales of a specific game in the US?

Yah, 360 is dominating face when it comes to software attach rate.

Though I don't doubt people have been buying the PS3 for use as a blu-ray player, so I bet there's a hefty chunk of owners that don't actually buy games.

Well to be honest I only really use my PS3 for blu-ray, as Im not interested in the majority of games considered to be "must haves" like MGS4, LBP and killzone. I think I own maybe 7 games, 3 being exclusive. Their whole line up just isnt appealing, as I bought it thinking there would be more RPGs...

Well for one thing, The Sales we get are mostly from NPD, and that is North America, where the install base of X360 is TWICE that of PS3.

The game sales are already doing better for ps3 (from a ratio point of view) if the sales of PS3 multiplats are more than half that of 360.

the 360 has over 30 million people on their side. how come halo 3 has only sold around 10 mil?UdderButter

Same reason not everyone that owned a Gameboy owned Tetris. Not everyone that owned an N64 or PS1 owned FFVII or OoT, etc etc

Not everyone that owns a system is interesting in the exact same game.

prob casue most use it as a cheaper bd that can play games if you want ti to..if not then who knows..ive only ever bought the exclusives ..daveg1

This right here.

I know a few people who own a PS3 and only really use it to play PS2 games and Bluray movies for the most part, from time to time they will purchase a game that catches their interest.

The main difference between the 360 and PS3 is that probably no one out there will use their 360 as a movie player only, while there's a strong chance that is a fair amount of people bought PS3's with only movie watching in mind. This is something I knew from the start that could harm Sony in the long run since they spent so much time talking up how this is a Bluray player and so many people out there will buy one for that and then later on get games. If my family bought one, they'd use it for a movie player only and wouldn't give it a second thought for games. Sony really needs to get this PS2 owners (myself included) to switch over to the PS3.

But they do buy games. Just not nearly as much as 360 or wii owners. Anyway, why buy games when we can brag about their scores online? ;) (I kid, I kid)

because i don't buy short games, a game with around 10 hours of gameplay is too short to justify a 60$ perchase, i rather just rent them

But they do buy games. Just not nearly as much as 360 or wii owners. Anyway, why buy games when we can brag about their scores online? ;) (I kid, I kid)

ActicEdge

I'm not? I didn't get the memo.

the 360 has over 30 million people on their side. how come halo 3 has only sold around 10 mil?UdderButter

You state that as if that's a problem. You show me how many games sell to a 3rd of a specific console's user base. Unless it's a Nintendo product, there ain't that many.

What i find funny isthe OP uses "worldwide" console sales, to "american only" MGS sales.

If you are going to compare attach rate, us worldwide console vs worldwide games sales, or american console vs american game sales. Don't try to mix it up to make the numbers look smaller/bigger.

I'm buying games. In fact right now, i'm buying more PC and PS3 games. My 360 isn't getting too much new love.

I meant MOST PS3 owners. There's only under 1 million that buy a game for their consoles, with the exception of MGS4, and KZ2 had "awakened" some owners I suppose. Ah well. The games are fun, for the most part. Can't say I regret owning a PS3 just by sales data.NYrockinlegend

I think some PS3 owners use it just as a bluray player. On the other hand all 360 and Wii owners are gamers for sure.

The attach rate has been increasing throughout this gen and is almost at a par with the 360.dgsag

360 attach rate is way higher then ps3s :|

The main problem here is the lack of advertising. Sony is freaking idiotic when it comes to this sort of thing.Ibacai

The PS3 has an install base of 21 million. Then, why do PS3 games sell poorly? MGS4 was one that sold well compared to others, and is on its way to 2 million in the US. The first PS3 games sold very poorly, and the games even last holiday didn't sell too well. The games get outstanding critic ratings as well, for the most part. So, why aren't the PS3 games selling? They have 21 million users, but can't even break a million game sales of a specific game in the US?

NYrockinlegend

I have over 20 PS3 games, and many are Million sellers...I think even LBP just hit over the 2 Million mark.

This whole thread is based on a bogus premise...a myth perpetuated by posters here in SW.

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="DonMarkito"]1- The PS3 is expensive 2- The online is not as enjoyable like XBL or Steam 3- Most of multiplats are better on 360/PC 4- Sony does not promote their games 5- Teh PS3 haz nuh gaaaames - im jk :)DonMarkito

He's right. I use Steam everyday, and it walks all over Xbox Live and PSN

[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"]

The PS3 has an install base of 21 million. Then, why do PS3 games sell poorly? MGS4 was one that sold well compared to others, and is on its way to 2 million in the US. The first PS3 games sold very poorly, and the games even last holiday didn't sell too well. The games get outstanding critic ratings as well, for the most part. So, why aren't the PS3 games selling? They have 21 million users, but can't even break a million game sales of a specific game in the US?

SolidTy

I have over 20 PS3 games, and many are Million sellers...I think even LBP just hit over the 2 Million mark.

This whole thread is based on a bogus premise...a myth perpetuated by posters here in SW.

[QUOTE="DonMarkito"][QUOTE="110million"] You're saying that as if XBL can compare to steam, Steam >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> XBL > PSN, its a huge difference. lundy86_4

He's right. I use Steam everyday, and it walks all over Xbox Live and PSN

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"]

The PS3 has an install base of 21 million. Then, why do PS3 games sell poorly? MGS4 was one that sold well compared to others, and is on its way to 2 million in the US. The first PS3 games sold very poorly, and the games even last holiday didn't sell too well. The games get outstanding critic ratings as well, for the most part. So, why aren't the PS3 games selling? They have 21 million users, but can't even break a million game sales of a specific game in the US?

heretrix

I have over 20 PS3 games, and many are Million sellers...I think even LBP just hit over the 2 Million mark.

This whole thread is based on a bogus premise...a myth perpetuated by posters here in SW.

Well, I'm glad I used a Two Million example. KZ2 came out a month ago, and these threads just don't stop...I have a feeling it's all the same poster, creating multiple accounts. They are always New Low Level Low Post accounts. Then the level headed Posters that have a good reputation proceed to have the same discussion, meanwhile his objective of perpetuating the myth goes on and on.

These EXACT threads were here when LBP came out, and why? What the modivation? Because LBP didn't flop at GS, so the only other avenue is sales.

Now, KZ2 is going through the same exact growing pains. I've seen this enough to recognize the pattern.
Fanboy's pray for a flop, if no flop is found, it's time to bash the sales. Even MGS4 went through this anti sales campaign.

MGS4 a Million in a day! lul!

MGS4 is NOT a Killer App!

MGS doesn't sell systems!

LBP sales are horrible!

etc.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="DonMarkito"] Are you blind? Just wonderingDonMarkito

He's right. I use Steam everyday, and it walks all over Xbox Live and PSN

Yeah, but clumping steam and xbox live together sounds like you're saying they are comparable to each other and they beat PSN.

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I have over 20 PS3 games, and many are Million sellers...I think even LBP just hit over the 2 Million mark.

This whole thread is based on a bogus premise...a myth perpetuated by posters here in SW.

SolidTy

Well, I'm glad I used a Two Million example. KZ2 came out a month ago, and these threads just don't stop...I have a feeling it's all the same poster, creating multiple accounts. They are always New Low Level Low Post accounts. Then the level headed Posters that have a good reputation proceed to have the same discussion, meanwhile his objective of perpetuating the myth goes on and on.

These EXACT threads were here when LBP came out, and why? What the modivation? Because LBP didn't flop at GS, so the only other avenue is sales.

Now, KZ2 is going through the same exact growing pains. I've seen this enough to recognize the pattern.
Fanboy's pray for a flop, if no flop is found, it's time to bash the sales. Even MGS4 went through this anti sales campaign.

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Well, I'm glad I used a Two Million example. KZ2 came out a month ago, and these threads just don't stop...I have a feeling it's all the same poster, creating multiple accounts. They are always New Low Level Low Post accounts. Then the level headed Posters that have a good reputation proceed to have the same discussion, meanwhile his objective of perpetuating the myth goes on and on.

These EXACT threads were here when LBP came out, and why? What the modivation? Because LBP didn't flop at GS, so the only other avenue is sales.

Now, KZ2 is going through the same exact growing pains. I've seen this enough to recognize the pattern.
Fanboy's pray for a flop, if no flop is found, it's time to bash the sales. Even MGS4 went through this anti sales campaign.

heretrix

I'm not talking about Cows or Lemmings, I just said fanboys. Would you feel better if I named every game that gets bashed on SW(Halo, RE5, SF4, Too Human, Lair, Zelda, etc.)? I did see both types of KZ2 threads, but there is more KZ2 bash threads, even you must see that.

The only ownage will be when this game proves it has no legs, but that won't happen, and like LBP, it will be forgotten.

The PS3 has an install base of 21 million. Then, why do PS3 games sell poorly? MGS4 was one that sold well compared to others, and is on its way to 2 million in the US. The first PS3 games sold very poorly, and the games even last holiday didn't sell too well. The games get outstanding critic ratings as well, for the most part. So, why aren't the PS3 games selling? They have 21 million users, but can't even break a million game sales of a specific game in the US?

It's because the market of PS3 owners is way to spread out nobody can really publish a game that will appeal to a broadbase of ps3 owners.

Here's the base, and an estimated breakdown of ps3 owners.

Blu-ray film fans: A fairly small group, but still you'll probably never sell a game to this group no mater what you do.

Crabs: Sony's obsesive fans that will buy any system sony makes. Many only focus on games that Sony publishes, or sequals for past generations.

Multi-platform owners: Own a 360, gameing pc, wii or some combination. You'll rarely sell anthing outside of an exclusive to this group since they tend to like interactions on the other platforms better. Also games need to be strictly targeted to their favorite types of games.

New/casual gamers: Very small group due to high price, and they only tend to buy randomly or only very big titles (like GTAIV).

Now the bull**** numbers breakdown:

%of ps3 owners estimated games bought over system lifetime

blu-ray fans: 10% 0-5

crabs: 25% 20-40

MPO: 45% 10-30

NEW: 25% 5-20

the 360 has over 30 million people on their side. how come halo 3 has only sold around 10 mil?UdderButter

Crabs: Sony's obsesive fans

crabs: 25% 20-40jrhawk42

What's a "Crab", a Sony fanboy?

What is an Xbox Fanboy called, or a Nintendo fanboy called in your world?

[QUOTE="UdderButter"]the 360 has over 30 million people on their side. how come halo 3 has only sold around 10 mil?doll94

I have 21 PS3 gamesso don't blame me! :P

The PS3 has an install base of 21 million. Then, why do PS3 games sell poorly? MGS4 was one that sold well compared to others, and is on its way to 2 million in the US. The first PS3 games sold very poorly, and the games even last holiday didn't sell too well. The games get outstanding critic ratings as well, for the most part. So, why aren't the PS3 games selling? They have 21 million users, but can't even break a million game sales of a specific game in the US?

NYrockinlegend

I am sure many bought and still are buying the PlayStation 3 for its Blu-Ray functionality. Additionally, PS3 owners may have forgotten that they in fact own PS3s because of the awesome gaming rigs they possess.