Why Aren't We Talking About 900p/Sub 30fps Dark Souls III On XBONE?

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#51 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Framerate drops in a Souls game. Fucking lol.

I'm out.

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#52 NathanDrakeSwag
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@charizard1605 said:

Framerate drops in a Souls game. Fucking lol.

I'm out.

This is only the X1 version.

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#53 ellos
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Japan just need to put everything on Unreal Engine. Every current gen project just use UE4 and be done with it.

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#54 Flyincloud1116
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We all know the X1 will have deep black and dark rich colors.

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#55  Edited By princeofshapeir
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with the higher draw distance, higher res textures, improved lighting, and really detailed environments, this doesn't particularly surprise me. people were shocked that bloodborne was running at 30 fps on PS4 but i think it was a given considering the obvious strain that game and its large, detailed environments must have placed on the PS4's weak CPU. it's the same story for dark souls 3, which is a step up graphically from bloodborne

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#56  Edited By thepclovingguy
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Cant you come up with anything better, your jokes aren't even funny. We all know that uncharted look like a last gen game.

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Amazing! Incredible!

SONY has designed an incredibly fast, strong and balanced SoC that's unrivaled by any high-end gaming PC gear. I am amazed daily by how SONY pulled it off. It's unbelievable! Genius, I say!

The PS4 SoC is worth hundreds of billions of dollars in R&D and I have no doubt that it will be shown in a history museum centuries from now depicting the start of a computing revolution.

lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

lol another butthurt hermit who spent thousands of dollars finetuning his PC and is in denial after seeing the PS4's power. Uncharted 4 probably had you shitting bricks.

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#57 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@EvanTheGamer said:

Because all respectable gamers are getting it on PS4.

PC? 1440p+ and 60 fps?

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#58  Edited By sailor232
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Yeah I would get it for my pc but a friend wants it for his xbox one, so I may have to get it on that, even though I kind of don't want to anymore :( I shall see.

If it was solid 30fps then I wouldn't mind the 900p, but frame drops I can't stand.

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#59 Bigfatmistake
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Why does this game run 30 fps on PS4? It looks bad.

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#61 superbuuman
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Pretty dumb to have it at 900p.when it suffer big frame drops on a game like this. Might as well gone for 720p for at least a stable 30fps or more. :P

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#62 deactivated-583c85dc33d18
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Well all the Souls games run like poop on the consoles, so any self-respecting gamer is planning to get it on PC anyways.

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#63 Kruiz_Bathory
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@beardmad: didn't the first 2 do poorly before dsfix? You still see horrible frame drops on the first one even after the mod. Mainly cux it was a bad port since it was their first time on PC.

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#64 VanDammFan
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whats there to talk about? and why is that so important? how about people just play the games and quit crying like over privileged school girls

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#65 EducatingU_PCMR
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people reporting PS4 has the same issues lol cows

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#66 Flyincloud1116
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@superbuuman: 720p didn't help Quantum Blurr's frame rate.

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#67  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@xdude85 said:

By this point aren't we beating a dead horse? Yes, the XONE isn't as powerful, can we move on now?

Nah... some people on here have sad lives and live for this sh**.

Anyway, sounds like a poorly optimized game to me. Yes the XB1 isn't as powerful, but other games seem to run perfectly fine at higher resolution and framerates than this. But anyway, if it makes some people feel "superior" because their chosen machine runs a game "better" than the machine that other people own, good for them I guess. You have a pretty sad life but if that makes you happy.

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#68 gpuking
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Looks like the Bone can't even handle a 900p game with steady framerate these days. Maybe they should patch it down to 720p on Xbone lol.

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#69  Edited By blackace
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@GoldenElementXL: Blame the devs. DS2 was 1080P 60fps on both systems.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-dark-souls-2-performance-analysis

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@GoldenElementXL said:

@PSP107: DS3 is running on the Bloodborne engine so this is how Bloodborne may have run on the Xbox One. The PS4 ran the engine at 1080p and shitty frame rates while the Xbox One is a little shittier and 900p. Pretty much what we see with 95% of multiplats this gen.

I'm pretty sure it was ported from the PS4. From Software doesn't make any games from the ground up on the XB1. We will never know how that engine would really run if they made a game specifically for the XB1 using Win10/DX12 and all the tools Microsoft provides. I'll probas. bly pass on DS3 though. I never finished the first two games anyway.

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#70 silversix_
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@blackace: are you seriously comparing DkS2 visuals (which were based on the DkS1 engine) to DkS3 (based on a significantly more detailed BB engine)? Bruh, what are you doing, bruh!?

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#71 freedomfreak
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Are we acting surprised about a Souls game running like shit? It's a franchise trademark.

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#72 tormentos
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Because kingtito get mad.

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#73 tormentos
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@blackace:

SWBF3 is a DX12 game and is 720p on xbox one and slower than the ps4 as well. So much for dx12 and win 10.

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#74 Livecommander
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@GoldenElementXL: community filled with people that played demon souls ? And even other similar style games from ps2 era ? No. Playstation is where youll play with the ppl most deeply rooted with the game and genre

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#75  Edited By super600  Moderator
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I'm hearing that the PS4 version of the game also struggles and is kinda experiencing the same framerate drops as the xbox one version. I'm not surprised that Dark Souls 3 has framerate issues on the consoles.

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#76 Howmakewood
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After Bloodborne it would be surprising if this run fluid on either of the consoles

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#77 mjorh
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@Ant_17 said:

@mjorh:Funny enough, i'm not sold on either for now.

I'm tired of Souls game now and i don't think my laptop will play QB verry well.

But i know i'll play both sometime in the future.

Actually, this would be my first time playing a Souls game so i'm excited !

I'm optimistic that both will do well.

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#78  Edited By imt558
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@GoldenElementXL said:

@PSP107: DS3 is running on the Bloodborne engine so this is how Bloodborne may have run on the Xbox One. The PS4 ran the engine at 1080p and shitty frame rates while the Xbox One is a little shittier and 900p. Pretty much what we see with 95% of multiplats this gen.

Actually, Bloodborne performed pretty good at 30fps ( with framepacing issue and some drops ) multiplayer was the problem.

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#79  Edited By Howmakewood
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Can we also talk about why a game that is fast paced, reliant on specific timings and is running on only 30fps

It isn't exactly a looker either, so why not sacrifice resolution/some settings for higher frame rate -> better gameplay?

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#80 imt558
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@blackace said:
Blame the devs. DS2 was 1080P 60fps on both systems.

I'm pretty sure it was ported from the PS4. From Software doesn't make any games from the ground up on the XB1. We will never know how that engine would really run if they made a game specifically for the XB1 using Win10/DX12 and all the tools Microsoft provides. I'll probas. bly pass on DS3 though. I never finished the first two games anyway.

Bloodborne engine is more advanced that DkS2 engine which is based od DkS1 engine. DkS3 is based on Bloodborne engine.

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#81 StrongBlackVine
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@PSP107 said:

@GoldenElementXL:

Whats the difference between this and Bloodbourne?

Bloodborne actually kept a steady 30fps for most part(multiplayer and Old Yarhnam had some obvious slowdown). Bloodborne had framepacing issue(DS III has it too) that made the framerate seem worse than it actually is. From has technical immunity just like Bethesda though so if you want to play their games on console just deal with it.

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#82 QuadKnight
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Shocking indeed.

Not really, Xbone is a weak POS

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#83 imt558
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@silversix_ said:

back in 2013: "every Xbox One game will be running in 1080p couple of years from now". In 2016 the console has trouble with a Souls game, a series known to look very outdated.

You thought it was possible to optimize a potato which was mainly created to stream movies and play your yearly Call of Dooty?

Naaaaah! Read the first post here : It seems a lot more games are hitting the 1080p/30 threshold on the Xbox One as of late, I'm sure the new SDK's and DirectX 12

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/gears-of-war-4-framerate-and-resolution-confirmed-33010517/#29

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#84  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@cainetao11 said:

Because its a dead horse. It is not as strong as the PS4. That's known. The PS4 is not a monstrous beast of power in its own right, its just the strongest 8 year old on the block. Big fucking deal. I play games

lol I think we should make a thread every time the PC performs better than the PS4 on a multiplat. They sure like to do it the other way around.

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lol a 400$ PC will get the same performance or better on multiplats

You should have been tipped off when he said the R&D for the chip costed hundreds of billions of dollars. Sony never had that much money in its entire history.

If it were any other company, the R&D would have exceeded $100 billion. Microsoft had to spend $10-15 billion on the Xbone R&D and it's far weaker than the PS4 while being far more expensive.

The PS4 SoC is a lot cheaper to manufacture than the Xbone SoC, it has no major bottlenecks, and it is much stronger. It would cost about $350 billion in R&D if any other company designed it. The PS4 SoC is perfection.

LOL this guy...

I know right XD

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#85 cainetao11
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@HalcyonScarlet: Some of them live in fantasy land where uncharted 4 looks better than anything PC can accomplish

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#86 Ant_17
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@mjorh:Really?

Well, seeing how the game is, it's going to be nice.

Fair warning, lots of call back to Dark Souls 1.

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#87 NFJSupreme
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The xbone is weaker than the ps4 this is to be expected. Do we need a 50 page thread every time what we already know shows in multiplats?

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#88 mjorh
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@Ant_17 said:

@mjorh:Really?

Well, seeing how the game is, it's going to be nice.

Fair warning, lots of call back to Dark Souls 1.

Yeah, the first one had a bad port so i didn't play it, when the second one came out i was busy playing some other games, now i have the opportunity to delve into this.

Actually, i'm playing it mainly for the gameplay , but i might read the story of the previous two, do you suggest that i do?

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#89  Edited By silversix_
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@NFJSupreme said:

The xbone is weaker than the ps4 this is to be expected. Do we need a 50 page thread every time what we already know shows in multiplats?

Yes we do. How's that DX12 doing for the Bone? Is the console super charged yet?

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#90 Ant_17
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@mjorh:Yeah, you could do that.

The story in Souls games is mostly told in item descriptions, so you could find a lore video on YT for a sumarize.

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#91 SecretPolice
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@NFJSupreme said:

The xbone is weaker than the ps4 this is to be expected. Do we need a 50 page thread every time what we already know shows in multiplats?

They just can't get enough I suppose. poor Mr. Ed erm, I mean X1 lol

:P

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#92 NFJSupreme
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@silversix_: why are you asking me that?

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#93 TerminalyInsane
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Be happy with your choice. Don't worry about other people's choice. PS4 vs Xbox vs PC. It's all about preference. Nice that we have choices. Why must people have their choice validated. I'll say it with this game as well as Quantum Break. Wait until it's out. The previews could be all hype. Final product may not look the same. Don't be too quick to judge games until the final product comes out. The only reason I posted about Quantum Break was to give people a heads up.

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#94 ni6htmare01
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I guess the Magic Cloud, Secret Sauces and DX 12 didn't help huh?

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#95 mjorh
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@Ant_17 said:

@mjorh:Yeah, you could do that.

The story in Souls games is mostly told in item descriptions, so you could find a lore video on YT for a sumarize.

Awesome then, thx.

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#96  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@GoldenElementXL: Dang it! How did I miss this one?

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#97 drummerdave9099
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I'm looking forward to a comparison video, hopefully later today, to see what the difference really is between the two versions.

I'm also looking forward to a report on DS1 running on Xbox One, I've heard it's a step up from the 360 version with loading times, but not sure about frame rate.

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#98 Wasdie  Moderator
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It seems that Dark Souls III on the console is an absolute joke right now.

This whole thing reeks of a money grab to me.

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#99 Howmakewood
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Silky smooth, only possible on the current console generation leader, the playstation 4!

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#100 Guy_Brohski
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So it has a better frame rate than Bloodborne then. Cool.