Why can Killzone not get as much recognition as other popular shooters today

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#101 slvrraven9
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i mean its just a graphical masterpice.....but thats where it stops. i mean REALLY thats where it stops...theres absolutely NOTHING else to it. i dont even care about the characters nor their reasons for fighting. literally everything else is forgettable
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#102 Fizzman
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It was the Doom 3 of consoles. Good graphics (relatively speaking of course since console graphics are garbage) and nothing else.

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#103 sethman410
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i mean its just a graphical masterpice.....but thats where it stops. i mean REALLY thats where it stops...theres absolutely NOTHING else to it. i dont even care about the characters nor their reasons for fighting. literally everything else is forgettableslvrraven9
Not really. Story might be crap but the action+graphics is where it's at.
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#104 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="slvrraven9"]i mean its just a graphical masterpice.....but thats where it stops. i mean REALLY thats where it stops...theres absolutely NOTHING else to it. i dont even care about the characters nor their reasons for fighting. literally everything else is forgettablesethman410
Not really. Story might be crap but the action+graphics is where it's at.

it was ok....the action was, i mean. i would compare Killzone to a Micheal Bay movie...All Glamour and Glitz but absolutely unimaginative everything else...
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#105 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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Because the competition exceeds in way more areas than just graphics.

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#106 mellodude12
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Killzone exists because Sony wanted to capitalize on the current popularity of FPS. The game is uninspired and derivative.

digiramm

Bingo.. there's no originality in it. I'm saying this as a ps3 owner that own KZ3. The game borrows things from so many other games, and has no real identity of it's own.

And where's the originality in Halo? Halo hasn't been great or changed since Halo 2. Where's the originality in Gears? The very epitome of generic over hyped garbage. Exactly 360 fanboy!
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#107 soulitane
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[QUOTE="digiramm"]

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"]

Killzone exists because Sony wanted to capitalize on the current popularity of FPS. The game is uninspired and derivative.

mellodude12

Bingo.. there's no originality in it. I'm saying this as a ps3 owner that own KZ3. The game borrows things from so many other games, and has no real identity of it's own.

And where's the originality in Halo? Halo hasn't been great or changed since Halo 2. Where's the originality in Gears? The very epitome of generic over hyped garbage. Exactly 360 fanboy!

Well I'd say that compared to most shooters on consoles halo is pretty unique.
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#108 mellodude12
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i mean its just a graphical masterpice.....but thats where it stops. i mean REALLY thats where it stops...theres absolutely NOTHING else to it. i dont even care about the characters nor their reasons for fighting. literally everything else is forgettableslvrraven9
The gun play mechanics were awesome. It felt realiatic and it was very intense and very visceral. No.shooter really compares to killzone 3 in that regard. And i loved the smooth intuitive ness of the cover system(dive into cover lean and peak ect) Killzone 3 was a great game. F*** the haters. It can definently be improved tho Killing a helgast is one of the most satisfying things ever in a FPS
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#109 theuncharted34
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well, apparently the first one is crap, (never played it myself, but everyone says it is) the second one was really great but a lot of people didn't like it because of the more heavy, realistic movement and controls (noobs :P ) and the 3rd albeit a really good game - took out a lot of things, has a far worse multiplayer component than #2, and is pretty much a clone of call of duty as far as controls and recoil go. something that dissapointed me greatly :(

so really the only great one was killzone 2.

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#110 mellodude12
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I agree Halo 2 was unique for its time. It wasn't the end all be all of video games that m$ fanboys hyped it up to be tho, but i still enjoyed the game Since then , all the new Halo's have lacked improvement and originality. There using the template from Halo 2 and doing nothing but re packaging it under a different game with slightly improved graphics Just my honest opinion.
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#111 tempest91
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[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"] That's the silliest response I have ever heard! Since when did I call it perfect?!?! Lol. Your just ignorant and that response proves it more. sethman410

uhmm lol?? so now that we pretty much accepted the fact that killzone is not perfect we can then pretty much assume that not everyone will like it , ITS NOT PERFECT, therefore not everyone will like it, why cant you just accept it? killzone as a series is on the verge of being overrated with its bland characters and uninteresting story( god i hate rico, why is he still alive?) with a stereotypical sci fi plot, the only real thing it has going is graphics. By the way, why do you think I think the game is perfect or im hyping it to the max? That doesn't make sense.

Further Denial shall allude to your ignorance and hypocrisy

Umm yeah we did? Lol. But your not accepting the fact that it's a great game. So, you know not any game is flawless then why tell me those negative things about kz? Lol. Your the one actually in denial along with your ignorance.

Please at least use the right your/you're when calling someone ignorant.

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#112 soulitane
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[QUOTE="mellodude12"]I agree Halo 2 was unique for its time. It wasn't the end all be all of video games that m$ fanboys hyped it up to be tho, but i still enjoyed the game Since then , all the new Halo's have lacked improvement and originality. There using the template from Halo 2 and doing nothing but re packaging it under a different game with slightly improved graphics Just my honest opinion.

That would be true if you ignored all the changes to the games. From halo 2 to 3 they added equipment, forge theatre, 4 player co-op, file share. I can't think of a console FPS that has as much content as halo 3 not counting reach. From halo 3 to reach they changed the way the actual game played quite a bit by the addition of bloom and armor abilities, along with improvements to firefight, forge and graphical updates. So no they haven't really been repackaging the same game for the full games at least.
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#114 sethman410
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"]

[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

uhmm lol?? so now that we pretty much accepted the fact that killzone is not perfect we can then pretty much assume that not everyone will like it , ITS NOT PERFECT, therefore not everyone will like it, why cant you just accept it? killzone as a series is on the verge of being overrated with its bland characters and uninteresting story( god i hate rico, why is he still alive?) with a stereotypical sci fi plot, the only real thing it has going is graphics. By the way, why do you think I think the game is perfect or im hyping it to the max? That doesn't make sense.

Further Denial shall allude to your ignorance and hypocrisy

Umm yeah we did? Lol. But your not accepting the fact that it's a great game. So, you know not any game is flawless then why tell me those negative things about kz? Lol. Your the one actually in denial along with your ignorance.

Please at least use the right your/you're when calling someone ignorant.

No thanks. Last I checked this isn't english forums. It's just faster typing.
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#115 tempest91
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"] Umm yeah we did? Lol. But your not accepting the fact that it's a great game. So, you know not any game is flawless then why tell me those negative things about kz? Lol. Your the one actually in denial along with your ignorance.

sethman410

Please at least use the right your/you're when calling someone ignorant.

No thanks. Last I checked this isn't english forums. It's just faster typing.

Be my guest and use the wrong form, I was only making a polite request and pointing out one of the many flaws in your responses to people who don't share your opinion.

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#116 sethman410
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

Please at least use the right your/you're when calling someone ignorant.

No thanks. Last I checked this isn't english forums. It's just faster typing.

Be my guest and use the wrong form, I was only making a polite request and pointing out one of the many flaws in your responses to people who don't share your opinion.

K? I couldn't care less if they do or not. Thanks?
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#117 mellodude12
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[QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="mellodude12"]I agree Halo 2 was unique for its time. It wasn't the end all be all of video games that m$ fanboys hyped it up to be tho, but i still enjoyed the game Since then , all the new Halo's have lacked improvement and originality. There using the template from Halo 2 and doing nothing but re packaging it under a different game with slightly improved graphics Just my honest opinion.

That would be true if you ignored all the changes to the games. From halo 2 to 3 they added equipment, forge theatre, 4 player co-op, file share. I can't think of a console FPS that has as much content as halo 3 not counting reach. From halo 3 to reach they changed the way the actual game played quite a bit by the addition of bloom and armor abilities, along with improvements to firefight, forge and graphical updates. So no they haven't really been repackaging the same game for the full games at least.

Halo hasn't kept up to par relative to the competition since Halo 2 All those "features" you listed. I dont care about and hardly ever use them. All that mess won't take away from the fact that Halo hasn't been great since Halo 2 The story isnt presented well and no im not going to read a bunch of comics to get it. The graphics are terrible The level design is lacking compared to beastly games like Uncharted The actual gameplay isnt interesting in any way. It's all bland and extremely generic. Add to it Halo is as noob friendly a FPS you'll ever see with a ton of aim assists and sorts. That's probably why kids on.xbox live love it so much, it takes no skill Anyway, it lacks anything special. Just because a bunch of M$ fanboys/M$ PR say so doesn't make it so *gets flame suite on* Come at me m$ fanboys haha just kidding
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#119 soulitane
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[QUOTE="mellodude12"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="mellodude12"]I agree Halo 2 was unique for its time. It wasn't the end all be all of video games that m$ fanboys hyped it up to be tho, but i still enjoyed the game Since then , all the new Halo's have lacked improvement and originality. There using the template from Halo 2 and doing nothing but re packaging it under a different game with slightly improved graphics Just my honest opinion.

That would be true if you ignored all the changes to the games. From halo 2 to 3 they added equipment, forge theatre, 4 player co-op, file share. I can't think of a console FPS that has as much content as halo 3 not counting reach. From halo 3 to reach they changed the way the actual game played quite a bit by the addition of bloom and armor abilities, along with improvements to firefight, forge and graphical updates. So no they haven't really been repackaging the same game for the full games at least.

Halo hasn't kept up to par relative to the competition since Halo 2 All those "features" you listed. I dont care about and hardly ever use them. All that mess won't take away from the fact that Halo hasn't been great since Halo 2 The story isnt presented well and no im not going to read a bunch of comics to get it. The graphics are terrible The level design is lacking compared to beastly games like Uncharted The actual gameplay isnt interesting in any way. It's all bland and extremely generic. Add to it Halo is as noob friendly a FPS you'll ever see with a ton of aim assists and sorts. That's probably why kids on.xbox live love it so much, it takes no skill Anyway, it lacks anything special. Just because a bunch of M$ fanboys/M$ PR say so doesn't make it so *gets flame suite on* Come at me m$ fanboys haha just kidding

What do you mean by up to the par? Feature wise it's well above anything else. Or do you mean gameplay wise? If so why does it have to be like every other shooter? I like how you dismiss the features by saying you don't use them, it doesn't stop them from being there. No other shooter on consoles can compare to halo in that regard. The story I will agree with but it's not like KZ has a good story either. I wouldn't say the graphics are terrible, not the best on consoles but far from terrible. The level design in Halo 3 is pretty good, Reach is a little lacking but some of the newer maps are better than the original ones. The gameplay is your opinion, can't really argue that. Please explain how it's generic? I never understand people using this as a detriment to a game as for the most part they never explain how it's generic. Noob friendly I can agree with but it does take skill, look at all the professional players. Personally I'd say it's easy to pick up but can be hard to be amazing at it. So this part I also don't understand as the exact same thing can be said about your whole argument, just because you say it doesn't make it so. I'd like to add I love how on this forum if you disagree with someone that automatically makes you a fanboy.
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#120 tempest91
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]So much hate lol, i love KZ and play the games alot.mellodude12
Me too! Don't worry bro. At least 55% of the hate is coming from crazed m$ fanboys. They always come into any thread Sony to hate. Its kind of pathetic actually. But it shows they care lol You never see sony fans going into M$ threads to hate, because they dont even care about m$

you sir, tell awfully funny jokes.

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#121 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"]

[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

uhmm lol?? so now that we pretty much accepted the fact that killzone is not perfect we can then pretty much assume that not everyone will like it , ITS NOT PERFECT, therefore not everyone will like it, why cant you just accept it? killzone as a series is on the verge of being overrated with its bland characters and uninteresting story( god i hate rico, why is he still alive?) with a stereotypical sci fi plot, the only real thing it has going is graphics. By the way, why do you think I think the game is perfect or im hyping it to the max? That doesn't make sense.

Further Denial shall allude to your ignorance and hypocrisy

Umm yeah we did? Lol. But your not accepting the fact that it's a great game. So, you know not any game is flawless then why tell me those negative things about kz? Lol. Your the one actually in denial along with your ignorance.

Please at least use the right your/you're when calling someone ignorant.

any other time i would dispute the fact that this is not grammar wars but its true you cant call someone ignorant while making yourself look foolish in the process. still its a pretty insignificant, nitpicky kinda thing to point out though....
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#122 mitu123
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]So much hate lol, i love KZ and play the games alot.mellodude12
Me too! Don't worry bro. At least 55% of the hate is coming from crazed m$ fanboys. They always come into any thread Sony to hate. Its kind of pathetic actually. But it shows they care lol You never see sony fans going into M$ threads to hate, because they dont even care about m$

You're kidding right? A faction not bashing another faction at any chance possible?

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#123 NanoMan88
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I tried to play KZ 2 it was terrible, I had to force myself through the campaign and the MP was just awful.

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#124 tempest91
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[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"] Umm yeah we did? Lol. But your not accepting the fact that it's a great game. So, you know not any game is flawless then why tell me those negative things about kz? Lol. Your the one actually in denial along with your ignorance.

slvrraven9

Please at least use the right your/you're when calling someone ignorant.

any other time i would dispute the fact that this is not grammar wars but its true you cant call someone ignorant while making yourself look foolish in the process. still its a pretty insignificant, nitpicky kinda thing to point out though....

I just found it comical that's all, and well, detrimental to his argument at the very least.

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#125 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="mellodude12"][QUOTE="digiramm"]

[QUOTE="spacesheikh"]

Killzone exists because Sony wanted to capitalize on the current popularity of FPS. The game is uninspired and derivative.

Bingo.. there's no originality in it. I'm saying this as a ps3 owner that own KZ3. The game borrows things from so many other games, and has no real identity of it's own.

And where's the originality in Halo? Halo hasn't been great or changed since Halo 2. Where's the originality in Gears? The very epitome of generic over hyped garbage. Exactly 360 fanboy!

cmon man! guns with chainsaws on them bro!? grenades you actually melee onto your opponent, an actual integrated cover system and gritty gameplay!?...i mean TRUELY gritty? everything was actually put together very nicely.....for a console game that in of itself was pretty original too
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#126 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]So much hate lol, i love KZ and play the games alot.mellodude12
Me too! Don't worry bro. At least 55% of the hate is coming from crazed m$ fanboys. They always come into any thread Sony to hate. Its kind of pathetic actually. But it shows they care lol You never see sony fans going into M$ threads to hate, because they dont even care about m$

seriously dude? seriously? you NEVER see cows in a lem thread? even at 104 posts youd HAD to have seen something like that...
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#127 HailedJohnDman
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[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"][QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

Hah, talk about hypocrisy, the fact that you cant accept that killzone is not a perfect game annoys you says alot.

sethman410

That's the silliest response I have ever heard! Since when did I call it perfect?!?! Lol. Your just ignorant and that response proves it more.

uhmm lol?? so now that we pretty much accepted the fact that killzone is not perfect we can then pretty much assume that not everyone will like it , ITS NOT PERFECT, therefore not everyone will like it, why cant you just accept it? killzone as a series is on the verge of being overrated with its bland characters and uninteresting story( god i hate rico, why is he still alive?) with a stereotypical sci fi plot, the only real thing it has going is graphics. By the way, why do you think I think the game is perfect or im hyping it to the max? That doesn't make sense.

Further Denial shall allude to your ignorance and hypocrisy

Umm yeah we did? Lol. But your not accepting the fact that it's a great game. So, you know not any game is flawless then why tell me those negative things about kz? Lol. Your the one actually in denial along with your ignorance.

[/QUOTEi love the way you misquote me, not really though, as i already said, killzone is not perfect therefore not everyone will like it, and you cant accept the fact that not everyone likes killzone and it has bland and uninteresting story plus characters with a typical sci fi plot and crappy controls, the only it has going for it is graphics

YOU CANT DENY THAT.

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Because it's a me too shooter after they abandoned their "weighty" controls.
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#129 tempest91
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Because it's a me too shooter after they abandoned their "weighty" controls.MFDOOM1983

agreed. also, epic sig is epic.

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#130 crusadernm
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Good graphics...everything else not so great. :(

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#131 Arach666
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In my opinion,the first was a mediocre game,the second was better but marred by atrocious controls. Dunno about the third,but going by reviews and all those people that say it´s a downgrade from the second one,then I guess overall the franchise just isn´t as good as others.

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#132 DireOwl
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I think Killzone series doesn't get the recognition of other popular shooters today because, quite frankly, I feel it doesn't deserve it. The series is a big meh with flashy visuals.

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#133 sethman410
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[QUOTE="sethman410"]

[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"] That's the silliest response I have ever heard! Since when did I call it perfect?!?! Lol. Your just ignorant and that response proves it more. HailedJohnDman

uhmm lol?? so now that we pretty much accepted the fact that killzone is not perfect we can then pretty much assume that not everyone will like it , ITS NOT PERFECT, therefore not everyone will like it, why cant you just accept it? killzone as a series is on the verge of being overrated with its bland characters and uninteresting story( god i hate rico, why is he still alive?) with a stereotypical sci fi plot, the only real thing it has going is graphics. By the way, why do you think I think the game is perfect or im hyping it to the max? That doesn't make sense.

Further Denial shall allude to your ignorance and hypocrisy

Umm yeah we did? Lol. But your not accepting the fact that it's a great game. So, you know not any game is flawless then why tell me those negative things about kz? Lol. Your the one actually in denial along with your ignorance.

[/QUOTEi love the way you misquote me, not really though, as i already said, killzone is not perfect therefore not everyone will like it, and you cant accept the fact that not everyone likes killzone and it has bland and uninteresting story plus characters with a typical sci fi plot and crappy controls, the only it has going for it is graphics

YOU CANT DENY THAT.

What makes you think that? I don't care if everyone likes it or it's not a perfect game so quit using those excuses. My point is that it's not "greyzone" and other responses you made were silly and made you look like a complete ignorant. Cool, it's not a perfect game but it is a great game. I deny that it's a perfect game and everyone likes it.
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#134 HailedJohnDman
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[QUOTE="HailedJohnDman"]

[QUOTE="sethman410"]

uhmm lol?? so now that we pretty much accepted the fact that killzone is not perfect we can then pretty much assume that not everyone will like it , ITS NOT PERFECT, therefore not everyone will like it, why cant you just accept it? killzone as a series is on the verge of being overrated with its bland characters and uninteresting story( god i hate rico, why is he still alive?) with a stereotypical sci fi plot, the only real thing it has going is graphics. By the way, why do you think I think the game is perfect or im hyping it to the max? That doesn't make sense.

Further Denial shall allude to your ignorance and hypocrisy

sethman410

Umm yeah we did? Lol. But your not accepting the fact that it's a great game. So, you know not any game is flawless then why tell me those negative things about kz? Lol. Your the one actually in denial along with your ignorance.

[/QUOTEi love the way you misquote me, not really though, as i already said, killzone is not perfect therefore not everyone will like it, and you cant accept the fact that not everyone likes killzone and it has bland and uninteresting story plus characters with a typical sci fi plot and crappy controls, the only it has going for it is graphics

YOU CANT DENY THAT.

What makes you think that? I don't care if everyone likes it or it's not a perfect game so quit using those excuses. My point is that it's not "greyzone" and other responses you made were silly and made you look like a complete ignorant. Cool, it's not a perfect game but it is a great game. I deny that it's a perfect game and everyone likes it.

See? want so hard was it? you were ignorant but now you realized your mistakes, dont worry i forgive you, but killzone is still overrated and boring:lol: