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#51 CarlosPontinas
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I think it was because overall, for the general gamer, DOA4 is slightly better. Even though DOA4 is crap compared to VF5 for most serious fighter games' fan. Or it could be because gamespot's rating system is flawed and doesn't consider the fact that maybe VF5 (and F1) is supposed to be geared toward serious fighter (and F1) fans :Dmunu9
When are people going to drop that tired cliched excuse? VF was NEVER as good as DOA. It was never deeper. It was never more "serious". It just had a run on a more successful system. That's all there is to it. If it came out as an Xbox exclusive no one would know what it is. The only reason  for this deep serious fighter  nonsense is the fact that DOA looked a million times better than its nearest rival. In lieu of an excuse these people came up with the more serious fighter bogus.  

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[QUOTE="munu9"]I think it was because overall, for the general gamer, DOA4 is slightly better. Even though DOA4 is crap compared to VF5 for most serious fighter games' fan.Paktahn

Elitist snob much? :lol:

uh no, I'm not even a fighting games fan....

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#53 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="Paktahn"]

[QUOTE="munu9"]I think it was because overall, for the general gamer, DOA4 is slightly better. Even though DOA4 is crap compared to VF5 for most serious fighter games' fan.munu9

Elitist snob much? :lol:

uh no, I'm not even a fighting games fan....

It shows.
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Survey says:
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Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. CarlosPontinas

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

Sorry son. This is system wars. And the scores do matter. But if you really want to get into the technical aspect of the games, I'll play. Tekken is better. End of story. It's better than VF and DOA. I could go on and on and on and on about how it's so much better than DOA, but we all know what kind of comments will come from your fanboy mouth. Just accept the truth.

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I believe gamespot review are really into graphic-oriented games, no wonder why shooter FPS games are the most highest rated games in Gamespot. Gamespot reviewer have a certain bias to games that aren't shooting related or FPS.
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#57 CarlosPontinas
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I think it was because overall, for the general gamer, DOA4 is slightly better. Even though DOA4 is crap compared to VF5 for most serious fighter games' fan. Or it could be because gamespot's rating system is flawed and doesn't consider the fact that maybe VF5 (and F1) is supposed to be geared toward serious fighter (and F1) fans :D

Edit: BTW, VF5's game ranking was an 8.8 and DOA4 was an 8.6 :? go figure...

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GT User scores:

VF5: 8.5

DOA4: 9.0

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Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. CarlosPontinas

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. chrismunx

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

Sorry son. This is system wars. And the scores do matter. But if you really want to get into the technical aspect of the games, I'll play. Tekken is better. End of story. It's better than VF and DOA. I could go on and on and on and on about how it's so much better than DOA, but we all know what kind of comments will come from your fanboy mouth. Just accept the truth.

You're living in the past.

FYI I'm supposed to be a Sony fan but to tell you the truth I've seen the light.

Sony have been getting by on rep alone and DOA is proof of that.

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#60 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. SupraGT

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

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#61 echelon
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CarlosPontinas you sould alot like some previous posters I have come around who say pretty much the same thing. Are you the latest encarnation of Reoman/BalancedOpinion/XtinctionAgenda ? If so quit making screennames.
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Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

CarlosPontinas


Famitsu gave DOA4 a 37/40. Famitsu Xbox360 game DOA4 a 39/40. And no that wouldnt be the highest score anyways. There have been games get perfect 40/40.
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Less online support.
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#64 chrismunx
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[QUOTE="chrismunx"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. CarlosPontinas

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

Sorry son. This is system wars. And the scores do matter. But if you really want to get into the technical aspect of the games, I'll play. Tekken is better. End of story. It's better than VF and DOA. I could go on and on and on and on about how it's so much better than DOA, but we all know what kind of comments will come from your fanboy mouth. Just accept the truth.

You're living in the past.

FYI I'm supposed to be a Sony fan but to tell you the truth I've seen the light.

Sony have been getting by on rep alone and DOA is proof of that.

Uh, this isn't about Sony or Nintendo or MS noob. Namco-Bandai  > Team Ninja - when it comes to fighting games.

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#65 SupraGT
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[QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. CarlosPontinas

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

dont pick out one sorce. Pick out what what everyone says. DOA4 is a good game, but not better than tekken or vf.
How could DOA out sell VF5 in japan when VF5 has only been out for a few weeks.

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#66 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

echelon


Famitsu gave DOA4 a 37/40. Famitsu Xbox360 game DOA4 a 39/40. And no that wouldnt be the highest score anyways. There have been games get perfect 40/40.

37 and 39 are more than 35 last time I checked. Also I said it's the highest score I saw them give.
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#67 GhettoTaxii
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. SupraGT

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

360 is not popular in Japan.
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#68 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. SupraGT

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

dont pick out one sorce. Pick out what what everyone says. DOA4 is a good game, but not better than tekken or vf.
How could DOA out sell VF5 in japan when VF5 has only been out for a few weeks.

DOA4 sold 62K units in its first four days. VF5 sold 64k units in its first two weeks.

In their first week sales DOA4 sold 62k units to an audience of 80K user. VF5 sold 49K units to an audience of 678K users.

That's a huge discrepancy.

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#69 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. SupraGT

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

dont pick out one sorce. Pick out what what everyone says. DOA4 is a good game, but not better than tekken or vf.
How could DOA out sell VF5 in japan when VF5 has only been out for a few weeks.

Gametrailers.com.  Huge readership. Scores based on actual moving graphics and sound.

User votes:

DOA4: 9.0

VF5: 8.5

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I thought VF5 was better at every aspects compare to DOA4?hhoan004

Standards were raised since the release of DOA4....VF5 is better.

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[QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

CarlosPontinas


Famitsu gave DOA4 a 37/40. Famitsu Xbox360 game DOA4 a 39/40. And no that wouldnt be the highest score anyways. There have been games get perfect 40/40.

37 and 39 are more than 35 last time I checked. Also I said it's the highest score I saw them give.


They also gave DOAX2 a 35/40. (87.5%) A game that averages 54% on Gamerankings. I think they like the girls.
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#72 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. chrismunx

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

Sorry son. This is system wars. And the scores do matter. But if you really want to get into the technical aspect of the games, I'll play. Tekken is better. End of story. It's better than VF and DOA. I could go on and on and on and on about how it's so much better than DOA, but we all know what kind of comments will come from your fanboy mouth. Just accept the truth.

You're living in the past.

FYI I'm supposed to be a Sony fan but to tell you the truth I've seen the light.

Sony have been getting by on rep alone and DOA is proof of that.

Uh, this isn't about Sony or Nintendo or MS noob. Namco-Bandai  > Team Ninja - when it comes to fighting games.

What is "noob" and what are you talking about? Your opinion is completely worthless. FYI mine says Namco_Bandai are not even on Team Ninja's map.

Seriously, you need to take some time away from your PS2 and get your hands on something more up to date.

Don't bother responding to me again if you're going to be silly.

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[QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. GhettoTaxii

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

360 is not popular in Japan.

Even if it were to be popular, it would still be in last. DOA2:H didn't even do good on the PS2 let alone the DC. Arcades are big in japan, yet itagaki didn't release the game in the arcade.

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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

echelon



Famitsu gave DOA4 a 37/40. Famitsu Xbox360 game DOA4 a 39/40. And no that wouldnt be the highest score anyways. There have been games get perfect 40/40.

37 and 39 are more than 35 last time I checked. Also I said it's the highest score I saw them give.


They also gave DOAX2 a 35/40. (87.5%) A game that averages 54% on Gamerankings. I think they like the girls.

Good for them. I like girls too.

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DOA4 sold 62K units in its first four days. VF5 sold 64k units in its first two weeks.

In their first week sales DOA4 sold 62k units to an audience of 80K user. VF5 sold 49K units to an audience of 678K users.

That's a huge discrepancy.

CarlosPontinas

Now I know for sure that you are XtinctionAgenda at least. Quit making screennames. Stick to one.
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#76 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

DOA4 sold 62K units in its first four days. VF5 sold 64k units in its first two weeks.

In their first week sales DOA4 sold 62k units to an audience of 80K user. VF5 sold 49K units to an audience of 678K users.

That's a huge discrepancy.

echelon

Now I know for sure that you are XtinctionAgenda at least. Quit making screennames. Stick to one.

Who is Xtinction Agenda? I got this from a thread I read here.
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[QUOTE="chrismunx"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. CarlosPontinas

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

Sorry son. This is system wars. And the scores do matter. But if you really want to get into the technical aspect of the games, I'll play. Tekken is better. End of story. It's better than VF and DOA. I could go on and on and on and on about how it's so much better than DOA, but we all know what kind of comments will come from your fanboy mouth. Just accept the truth.

You're living in the past.

FYI I'm supposed to be a Sony fan but to tell you the truth I've seen the light.

Sony have been getting by on rep alone and DOA is proof of that.

Uh, this isn't about Sony or Nintendo or MS noob. Namco-Bandai  > Team Ninja - when it comes to fighting games.

What is "noob" and what are you talking about? Your opinion is completely worthless. FYI mine says Namco_Bandai are not even on Team Ninja's map.

Seriously, you need to take some time away from your PS2 and get your hands on something more up to date.

Don't bother responding to me again if you're going to be silly.

I have a PS3, Wii and 360. You're just in denial. You can't handle the truth. But enjoy your noob fighting game. I'll be enjoying two better fighting games at local tournaments here in my area. Namely Tekken: DR and VF5. Enjoy!

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[QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. CarlosPontinas

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

dont pick out one sorce. Pick out what what everyone says. DOA4 is a good game, but not better than tekken or vf.
How could DOA out sell VF5 in japan when VF5 has only been out for a few weeks.

DOA4 sold 62K units in its first four days. VF5 sold 64k units in its first two weeks.

In their first week sales DOA4 sold 62k units to an audience of 80K user. VF5 sold 49K units to an audience of 678K users.

That's a huge discrepancy.

the fact that there was little japanese support for the 360, I could see that happening.

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[QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

CarlosPontinas



Famitsu gave DOA4 a 37/40. Famitsu Xbox360 game DOA4 a 39/40. And no that wouldnt be the highest score anyways. There have been games get perfect 40/40.

37 and 39 are more than 35 last time I checked. Also I said it's the highest score I saw them give.


They also gave DOAX2 a 35/40. (87.5%) A game that averages 54% on Gamerankings. I think they like the girls.

Good for them. I like girls too.

Maybe I dont. Either way im old enough to buy porn so playing DOA4 to look at the girls isnt really interesting to me.

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because it doesn't have online its as simple as that
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#81 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="GhettoTaxii"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. SupraGT

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

360 is not popular in Japan.

Even if it were to be popular, it would still be in last. DOA2:H didn't even do good on the PS2 let alone the DC. Arcades are big in japan, yet itagaki didn't release the game in the arcade.

DOA is much bigger than VF in Japan mainly due to its ecchi content. You're in the dark on this.
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#82 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. chrismunx

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

Sorry son. This is system wars. And the scores do matter. But if you really want to get into the technical aspect of the games, I'll play. Tekken is better. End of story. It's better than VF and DOA. I could go on and on and on and on about how it's so much better than DOA, but we all know what kind of comments will come from your fanboy mouth. Just accept the truth.

You're living in the past.

FYI I'm supposed to be a Sony fan but to tell you the truth I've seen the light.

Sony have been getting by on rep alone and DOA is proof of that.

Uh, this isn't about Sony or Nintendo or MS noob. Namco-Bandai  > Team Ninja - when it comes to fighting games.

What is "noob" and what are you talking about? Your opinion is completely worthless. FYI mine says Namco_Bandai are not even on Team Ninja's map.

Seriously, you need to take some time away from your PS2 and get your hands on something more up to date.

Don't bother responding to me again if you're going to be silly.

I have a PS3, Wii and 360. You're just in denial. You can't handle the truth. But enjoy your noob fighting game. I'll be enjoying two better fighting games at local tournaments here in my area. Namely Tekken: DR and VF5. Enjoy!

The really funny thing is I don't mind you enjoying Tekken. Someone has to.

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#83 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

Don't know Famitsu's Tekken score but it gave DOA4 39/40.

That's the highest score i've seen them give.

Also DOA4 outsold VF5 in japan by some way. It's currently at the 1.something million mark world wide as we speak.

echelon



Famitsu gave DOA4 a 37/40. Famitsu Xbox360 game DOA4 a 39/40. And no that wouldnt be the highest score anyways. There have been games get perfect 40/40.

37 and 39 are more than 35 last time I checked. Also I said it's the highest score I saw them give.


They also gave DOAX2 a 35/40. (87.5%) A game that averages 54% on Gamerankings. I think they like the girls.

Good for them. I like girls too.

Maybe I dont. Either way im old enough to buy porn so playing DOA4 to look at the girls isnt really interesting to me.

Well it's obviously more than the girls then... wouldn't you say... seeing as I'm assuming you're as normal as anyone who buys computer games?
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[QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

DOA4 sold 62K units in its first four days. VF5 sold 64k units in its first two weeks.

In their first week sales DOA4 sold 62k units to an audience of 80K user. VF5 sold 49K units to an audience of 678K users.

That's a huge discrepancy.

CarlosPontinas

Now I know for sure that you are XtinctionAgenda at least. Quit making screennames. Stick to one.

Who is Xtinction Agenda? I got this from a thread I read here.


Its a guy along with Reoman/BalancedOpinion that basically said the same things you have said word for word. Amazingly they never post in the same thread together(you think they would since they are the only DOA supporters here) and some of them didnt post for very long either. Ill await your next screenname after Tekken DR gets reviewed.
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[QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="GhettoTaxii"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. CarlosPontinas

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

360 is not popular in Japan.

Even if it were to be popular, it would still be in last. DOA2:H didn't even do good on the PS2 let alone the DC. Arcades are big in japan, yet itagaki didn't release the game in the arcade.

DOA is much bigger than VF in Japan mainly due to its ecchi content. You're in the dark on this.

Not everybody who plays VF has a PS3. Lack of popularity is what keeps DOA from the arcades.

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I have a ps3 but in my opinion if any sports, racing, fighting, or shooter doesn't offer online support considering the times that we are living in now deserves no higher than an 8.  Lack of online is the sole reason I'm not wasting 60 bucks on it.
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#87 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

DOA4 sold 62K units in its first four days. VF5 sold 64k units in its first two weeks.

In their first week sales DOA4 sold 62k units to an audience of 80K user. VF5 sold 49K units to an audience of 678K users.

That's a huge discrepancy.

echelon


Now I know for sure that you are XtinctionAgenda at least. Quit making screennames. Stick to one.

Who is Xtinction Agenda? I got this from a thread I read here.


Its a guy along with Reoman/BalancedOpinion that basically said the same things you have said word for word. Amazingly they never post in the same thread together(you think they would since they are the only DOA supporters here) and some of them didnt post for very long either. Ill await your next screenname after Tekken DR gets reviewed.

They sound like reasonable guys.

FYI there are lots of DOA fans around. When I joined GS there were at least five or six threads about DOA trumping VF5 and its 7.8 GS score (wrongly worked out as 8.1).

I look forward to seeing Tekken fail in a similar manner.

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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="GhettoTaxii"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. SupraGT

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

360 is not popular in Japan.

Even if it were to be popular, it would still be in last. DOA2:H didn't even do good on the PS2 let alone the DC. Arcades are big in japan, yet itagaki didn't release the game in the arcade.

DOA is much bigger than VF in Japan mainly due to its ecchi content. You're in the dark on this.

Not everybody who plays VF has a PS3. Lack of popularity is what keeps DOA from the arcades.

I wouldn't say that. I'd say ambition and advanced technology keeps it away from the arcades.

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yet to play VF5....
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[QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="GhettoTaxii"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. CarlosPontinas

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

360 is not popular in Japan.

Even if it were to be popular, it would still be in last. DOA2:H didn't even do good on the PS2 let alone the DC. Arcades are big in japan, yet itagaki didn't release the game in the arcade.

DOA is much bigger than VF in Japan mainly due to its ecchi content. You're in the dark on this.

Not everybody who plays VF has a PS3. Lack of popularity is what keeps DOA from the arcades.

I wouldn't say that. I'd say ambition and advanced technology keeps it away from the arcades.

lag in your fighing game makes the technology no good while i can play at the arcade and have zero lag. If you have no arcade around you, get off your butt and find people to play with though community boards.

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#91 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="GhettoTaxii"][QUOTE="SupraGT"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. SupraGT

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

so this explains why tekken DR is now the most popular fighting game in japan over vf and I dont even know where DOA is :lol:

If you were to actually match them up side by side, DOA would be the worst of the 3.

360 is not popular in Japan.

Even if it were to be popular, it would still be in last. DOA2:H didn't even do good on the PS2 let alone the DC. Arcades are big in japan, yet itagaki didn't release the game in the arcade.

DOA is much bigger than VF in Japan mainly due to its ecchi content. You're in the dark on this.

Not everybody who plays VF has a PS3. Lack of popularity is what keeps DOA from the arcades.

I wouldn't say that. I'd say ambition and advanced technology keeps it away from the arcades.

lag in your fighing game makes the technology no good while i can play at the arcade and have zero lag. If you have no arcade around you, get off your butt and find people to play with though community boards.

Well. That's the way it goes. Things move forward, but some things remain the same.

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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]

Whatever. IMO the only people who can do something about DOA's domination is Capcom. chrismunx

DOA has never been a dominating fighting game. The only thing that saves it is online. Shall I throw another example? Tekken 5 vs DOAU. Both in their same respectable time. And who won here in GS? Hrm. Gee. I wonder.

You need to throw like with like. Tekken is a PS2 title. That alone relegates it to a lesser product on account of the limitations of that system. You can't compare scores between different systems. DOAU drubs all versions of Tekken without breaking a sweat and this is simply because of superior hardware.

DOA is dominating BTW. VF5's performance attests to that. I hear they're even going to re-release DOA4 as a platinum release.

IMO only Capcom have the potential to unseat DOA now.

Sorry son. This is system wars. And the scores do matter. But if you really want to get into the technical aspect of the games, I'll play. Tekken is better. End of story. It's better than VF and DOA. I could go on and on and on and on about how it's so much better than DOA, but we all know what kind of comments will come from your fanboy mouth. Just accept the truth.

You're living in the past.

FYI I'm supposed to be a Sony fan but to tell you the truth I've seen the light.

Sony have been getting by on rep alone and DOA is proof of that.

Uh, this isn't about Sony or Nintendo or MS noob. Namco-Bandai > Team Ninja - when it comes to fighting games.

What is "noob" and what are you talking about? Your opinion is completely worthless. FYI mine says Namco_Bandai are not even on Team Ninja's map.

Seriously, you need to take some time away from your PS2 and get your hands on something more up to date.

Don't bother responding to me again if you're going to be silly.

I have a PS3, Wii and 360. You're just in denial. You can't handle the truth. But enjoy your noob fighting game. I'll be enjoying two better fighting games at local tournaments here in my area. Namely Tekken: DR and VF5. Enjoy!



You were going strong until you hit the noob fighting game comment and the local game tournaments in your area. Doa is not a noob fighter, plus it has online and off.
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You were going strong until you hit the noob fighting game comment and the local game tournaments in your area. Doa is not a noob fighter, plus it has online and off.
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I don't think he was going strong.
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You were going strong until you hit the noob fighting game comment and the local game tournaments in your area. Doa is not a noob fighter, plus it has online and off.

I've stated time and time again. DOA on the surface is a noob fighter. I know how much deeper the game can be but it doesn't match VF5 or Tekken: DR. It will be hard to go between these three games. Honestly though, I feel I'll be putting more time in with VF5 than any of the other two.

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They sound like reasonable guys.

FYI there are lots of DOA fans around. When I joined GS there were at least five or six threads about DOA trumping VF5 and its 7.8 GS score (wrongly worked out as 8.1).

I look forward to seeing Tekken fail in a similar manner.

CarlosPontinas

The following games got the following scores:

Game 1: 9.2, 9.2, 9.9, 9.6, 9.2, 8.4 - 5 AAA, 9.3 Average

Game 2: 7.3, 9.1, 7.9, 8.8, 8.8, 8.9 - 1 AAA, 8.5 Average

It should also be noted that Game 1 sold much better then Game 2.

Which would you say is the better game series?

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Because it was VF4.5Spartan070

Might as well call it. VF4 Evo. Part 2
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Because it just did, deal with it.
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#98 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

They sound like reasonable guys.

FYI there are lots of DOA fans around. When I joined GS there were at least five or six threads about DOA trumping VF5 and its 7.8 GS score (wrongly worked out as 8.1).

I look forward to seeing Tekken fail in a similar manner.

echelon

The following games got the following scores:

Game 1: 9.2, 9.2, 9.9, 9.6, 9.2, 8.4 - 5 AAA, 9.3 Average

Game 2: 7.3, 9.1, 7.9, 8.8, 8.8, 8.9 - 1 AAA, 8.5 Average

It should also be noted that Game 1 sold much better then Game 2.

Which would you say is the better game series?

You're throwing together a bunch of disperate numbers from who knows where. How am I suppose to make head or tails of that?

Let's keep it simple:

NEXT GENERATION FIGHTERS:

GS SCORES:

DOA4: 8.8

VF5: 7.8

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#99 echelon
Member since 2002 • 1199 Posts
[QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

They sound like reasonable guys.

FYI there are lots of DOA fans around. When I joined GS there were at least five or six threads about DOA trumping VF5 and its 7.8 GS score (wrongly worked out as 8.1).

I look forward to seeing Tekken fail in a similar manner.

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The following games got the following scores:

Game 1: 9.2, 9.2, 9.9, 9.6, 9.2, 8.4 - 5 AAA, 9.3 Average

Game 2: 7.3, 9.1, 7.9, 8.8, 8.8, 8.9 - 1 AAA, 8.5 Average

It should also be noted that Game 1 sold much better then Game 2.

Which would you say is the better game series?

You're throwing together a bunch of disperate numbers from who knows where. How am I suppose to make head or tails of that?

Let's keep it simple:

NEXT GENERATION FIGHTERS:

GS SCORES:

DOA4: 8.8

VF5: 7.8


No, for one you know full well that VF5 got an 8.1 and not a 7.8. Two, the scores shown are of Tekken vs DOA. Tekken has completely destroyed it in every category. Sales, scores, arcade success. DOA is not in the same league as Tekken.
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#100 apolloluke
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Why did VF5 score lower than DOA4 ? Because its on the PS3. Automatic 2.0 point deduction