Why did VF5 score lower than DOA4 ?

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="echelon"][QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

They sound like reasonable guys.

FYI there are lots of DOA fans around. When I joined GS there were at least five or six threads about DOA trumping VF5 and its 7.8 GS score (wrongly worked out as 8.1).

I look forward to seeing Tekken fail in a similar manner.

echelon

The following games got the following scores:

Game 1: 9.2, 9.2, 9.9, 9.6, 9.2, 8.4 - 5 AAA, 9.3 Average

Game 2: 7.3, 9.1, 7.9, 8.8, 8.8, 8.9 - 1 AAA, 8.5 Average

It should also be noted that Game 1 sold much better then Game 2.

Which would you say is the better game series?

Let's keep it simple:

NEXT GENERATION FIGHTERS:

GS SCORES:

DOA4: 8.8

VF5: 7.8

Why did VF5 score lower than DOA4 ? Because its on the PS3. Automatic 2.0 point deductionapolloluke

The only thing that will save the 360 version of getting a higher score is online. Oh wait.

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]I look forward to seeing Tekken fail in a similar manner CarlosPontinas

Hey. It's 2007 dude. This year GD gave VF5 PS3 7.8 (if you add up the score properly). Last year they gave DOA4 8.8 and I'm tempted to say that had DOA4 gone up against VF5, DOA would have got a 9 -9.5 on GS. That's all there is to it. DOA is better. Get used to it.

Ok. For one, the final score is not an average, you should have learned that in your 5 days here. Two, I like how you make a comment about Tekken failing to me, I follow it up by showing you that Tekken has already completely dominated DOA and you respond by comparing DOA4 and VF5 again. Way to sidestep my argument. If we are just looking at 2007 then VF5 is the best fighting game out. If we are looking at 2006/2007 then Tekken DR is the best fighting game out. Tell me again, which year do you want to live in?

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"]I look forward to seeing Tekken fail in a similar manner echelon

Hey. It's 2007 dude. This year GD gave VF5 PS3 7.8 (if you add up the score properly). Last year they gave DOA4 8.8 and I'm tempted to say that had DOA4 gone up against VF5, DOA would have got a 9 -9.5 on GS. That's all there is to it. DOA is better. Get used to it.

Ok. For one, the final score is not an average, you should have learned that in your 5 days here. Two, I like how you make a comment about Tekken failing to me, I follow it up by showing you that Tekken has already completely dominated DOA and you respond by comparing DOA4 and VF5 again. Way to sidestep my argument. If we are just looking at 2007 then VF5 is the best fighting game out. If we are looking at 2006/2007 then Tekken DR is the best fighting game out. Tell me again, which year do you want to live in?

vf5 was an arcade port, it didnt even use 10% of ps3's amazing power. If you remember VF on ps2 looked great for its time cuz it build from ground up and it wasnt a port from the arcade version.

So there you have it, VF5 scored low cuz it just a lazy port without an online mode.

The reason DOA is an online fighter to begin with is because Tecmo got their butts handed to them in the coin-op world by Sega and Namco, and then Tekken Tag stomped DOA2:Hardcore on the Playstation 2 so Tecmo ran to the newcomer as an exclusive fighting series.

Smart move, but Tecmo basically admitted defeat in the arcades, after nearly 2 decades of great coin-ops.
TekkenMaster606

The reason DOA is an online fighter to begin with is because Tecmo got their butts handed to them in the coin-op world by Sega and Namco, and then Tekken Tag stomped DOA2:Hardcore on the Playstation 2 so Tecmo ran to the newcomer as an exclusive fighting series.

Smart move, but Tecmo basically admitted defeat in the arcades, after nearly 2 decades of great coin-ops.
TekkenMaster606

The reason DOA is an online fighter to begin with is because Tecmo got their butts handed to them in the coin-op world by Sega and Namco, and then Tekken Tag stomped DOA2:Hardcore on the Playstation 2 so Tecmo ran to the newcomer as an exclusive fighting series.

Smart move, but Tecmo basically admitted defeat in the arcades, after nearly 2 decades of great coin-ops.
TekkenMaster606

Arcades aren't what they used to be in the Street Fighter days or even early VF days outside of Japan. One of the reasons Sega almost went bankrupt is because they focused too much on the arcades and losts lots of money with arcade games.

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]The reason DOA is an online fighter to begin with is because Tecmo got their butts handed to them in the coin-op world by Sega and Namco, and then Tekken Tag stomped DOA2:Hardcore on the Playstation 2 so Tecmo ran to the newcomer as an exclusive fighting series.

Smart move, but Tecmo basically admitted defeat in the arcades, after nearly 2 decades of great coin-ops.
Blackbond

Online doesn't make a game "next gen". Bioshock proves this.chrismunx

Online doesn't make a game "next gen". Bioshock proves this.chrismunx

[QUOTE="chrismunx"]Online doesn't make a game "next gen". Bioshock proves this.CarlosPontinas

I thought VF5 was better at every aspects compare to DOA4?hhoan004

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]The reason DOA is an online fighter to begin with is because Tecmo got their butts handed to them in the coin-op world by Sega and Namco, and then Tekken Tag stomped DOA2:Hardcore on the Playstation 2 so Tecmo ran to the newcomer as an exclusive fighting series.

Smart move, but Tecmo basically admitted defeat in the arcades, after nearly 2 decades of great coin-ops.
TekkenMaster606

[QUOTE="chrismunx"]Online doesn't make a game "next gen". Bioshock proves this.Dreams-Visions

And yet, Bioshock being the FPS game, you would think it would have online? I think your head is stuck far up into the whole "It's not next gen unless it's online" statement. Another example would be Dark Sector. I haven't heard of it being online or not, but that game looks pretty damn next gen to me.

[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]Online doesn't make a game "next gen". Bioshock proves this.Dreams-Visions

[QUOTE="hhoan004"]I thought VF5 was better at every aspects compare to DOA4?JayPee89

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]Online doesn't make a game "next gen". Bioshock proves this.chrismunx

And yet, Bioshock being the FPS game, you would think it would have online? I think your head is stuck far up into the whole "It's not next gen unless it's online" statement. Another example would be Dark Sector. I haven't heard of it being online or not, but that game looks pretty damn next gen to me.

Bioshock is a story driven RPG/FPS hybrid. Similar to Deus Ex or System Shock. Both games did not release with any online modes and they were on the PC where online gaming is standard. Deus Ex did have a downloadable multiplayer component added latter but not one bought the game for that because FPS like Quake 3 and UT were much better for anyone who wanted an online shooter. People bought Deus Ex because of it's excellent story and atmosphere in single-player.

[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="hhoan004"]I thought VF5 was better at every aspects compare to DOA4?edeasknight

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]Online doesn't make a game "next gen". Bioshock proves this.chrismunx

And yet, Bioshock being the FPS game, you would think it would have online? I think your head is stuck far up into the whole "It's not next gen unless it's online" statement. Another example would be Dark Sector. I haven't heard of it being online or not, but that game looks pretty damn next gen to me.

[QUOTE="chrismunx"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]Online doesn't make a game "next gen". Bioshock proves this.Paktahn

And yet, Bioshock being the FPS game, you would think it would have online? I think your head is stuck far up into the whole "It's not next gen unless it's online" statement. Another example would be Dark Sector. I haven't heard of it being online or not, but that game looks pretty damn next gen to me.

Bioshock is a story driven RPG/FPS hybrid. Similar to Deus Ex or System Shock. Both games did not release with any online modes and they were on the PC where online gaming is standard. Deus Ex did have a downloadable multiplayer component added latter but not one bought the game for that because FPS like Quake 3 and UT were much better for anyone who wanted an online shooter. People bought Deus Ex because of it's excellent story and atmosphere in single-player.

Personally I think DoA4 was alot better then VF5, and I absolutely stink at DoA4. No online play, and square shaped arenas with very little flair, really hurt it imho. dru26

Here's an indication of DOA's Japanese popularity:

VF5 isn't as "nextGen" as DoA4. no online, baby. its a SIN in 2007, no matter what the excuse. I think the score for this game goes up a whole POINT with online play, because it increases its value and tilt to the max.Dreams-Visions

true, doa4 is still one of the best looking x360 games cuz it wasnt a port of some kind, they made it from ground up. As for VF5, i really think Sega should of made it from ground up instead of porting the game from arcade.

I thought VF5 was better at every aspects compare to DOA4?hhoan004

its one of those reviews that gamespot got wrong

Personally I think DoA4 was alot better then VF5, and I absolutely stink at DoA4. No online play, and square shaped arenas with very little flair, really hurt it imho. dru26

The problem with the VF series is it has evolved less. Yes it's still a solid fighter but there is little in VF5 that will make you want to upgrade from VF4 when it will cost $650 to do so. In fact some reviews (IGN I think) have said the AI is actually worse in VF5 than VF4.

I thought VF5 was better at every aspects compare to DOA4?hhoan004

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]VF5 isn't as "nextGen" as DoA4. no online, baby. its a SIN in 2007, no matter what the excuse. I think the score for this game goes up a whole POINT with online play, because it increases its value and tilt to the max.GermanShepard06

true, doa4 is still one of the best looking x360 games cuz it wasnt a port of some kind, they made it from ground up. As for VF5, i really think Sega should of made it from ground up instead of porting the game from arcade.