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Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
dubvisions
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
I'm not sure what you're getting at.WildTurkey00He's trying to tell us something.
[QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
nnavidson
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
[QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
nnavidson
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
Were not all excited to get them. I won't picking up none of those titles. Getting VF5 today and Motorstorm next month.[QUOTE="nnavidson"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
shungokustasu
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
Were not all excited to get them. I won't picking up none of those titles. Getting VF5 today and Motorstorm next month. The number of Oblivion comparison threads springing up would suggest Cows are indeed excited.Man you guys are so far off base, it's not even funny. Yes, there are many PS3 owners that are excited about Oblivion. But it won't be the same Oblivion 360 users had. It will have faster laod times and better graphics (this comes from the game's developers).
My pint is that every time I see a thread discussing the two consoles PS3 and 360, a 360 fan jumps in with the game quantity arguement. My point is that, that arguement is invalid. That within the year PS3 will have as many blockbuster games as the 360 and will be doing them better.
That's my point. Get it?
[QUOTE="WildTurkey00"]I'm not sure what you're getting at.NemmeHe's trying to tell us something. Where are you quoting from, a different thread? How moronic. Quote someone who's not even in the conversation. Good idea!!!
The advantages to the PS3 version seem rather minimal to be honest. Especially if all this buzz about a graphical update is true. And your argument doesn't make sense. The 360 has a one year lead on the games library in terms of raw numbers and blockbusters. But it will always have a one year lead, because one year from now the 360 will have two years worth of blockbusters. While the PS3 is releasing games like Lair and Heavenly Sword to catch up with Gears of War, PD0 and Kameo, the 360 will be releasing games like Mass Effect and Halo 3.Man you guys are so far off base, it's not even funny. Yes, there are many PS3 owners that are excited about Oblivion. But it won't be the same Oblivion 360 users had. It will have faster laod times and better graphics (this comes from the game's developers).
My pint is that every time I see a thread discussing the two consoles PS3 and 360, a 360 fan jumps in with the game quantity arguement. My point is that, that arguement is invalid. That within the year PS3 will have as many blockbuster games as the 360 and will be doing them better.
That's my point. Get it?
dubvisions
[QUOTE="dubvisions"]The advantages to the PS3 version seem rather minimal to be honest. Especially if all this buzz about a graphical update is true. And your argument doesn't make sense. The 360 has a one year lead on the games library in terms of raw numbers and blockbusters. But it will always have a one year lead, because one year from now the 360 will have two years worth of blockbusters. While the PS3 is releasing games like Lair and Heavenly Sword to catch up with Gears of War, PD0 and Kameo, the 360 will be releasing games like Mass Effect and Halo 3. Wrong, wrong, wrong. You can;t count both years fully. One year replaces another in some regards. Games come out with sequels or whatever and replace their predecessors. Games get better and better as a system gets older. That has always been the case. You can't keep talking about games from 2006 when they aren't cool in 2007 or beyond. There's only so many games that can make it through something like that. Yes, maybe it takes more than a year for a game to fade, maybe its two years. Either way my point is valid.Man you guys are so far off base, it's not even funny. Yes, there are many PS3 owners that are excited about Oblivion. But it won't be the same Oblivion 360 users had. It will have faster laod times and better graphics (this comes from the game's developers).
My pint is that every time I see a thread discussing the two consoles PS3 and 360, a 360 fan jumps in with the game quantity arguement. My point is that, that arguement is invalid. That within the year PS3 will have as many blockbuster games as the 360 and will be doing them better.
That's my point. Get it?
Danm_999
The advantages to the PS3 version seem rather minimal to be honest. Especially if all this buzz about a graphical update is true. And your argument doesn't make sense. The 360 has a one year lead on the games library in terms of raw numbers and blockbusters. But it will always have a one year lead, because one year from now the 360 will have two years worth of blockbusters. While the PS3 is releasing games like Lair and Heavenly Sword to catch up with Gears of War, PD0 and Kameo, the 360 will be releasing games like Mass Effect and Halo 3.Danm_999
And so you admit to their being an "advantage", though small. Add that to all of the other "advantages" and you get a PS3 using a 360 as a stand.
Man you guys are so far off base, it's not even funny. Yes, there are many PS3 owners that are excited about Oblivion. But it won't be the same Oblivion 360 users had. It will have faster laod times and better graphics (this comes from the game's developers).
My pint is that every time I see a thread discussing the two consoles PS3 and 360, a 360 fan jumps in with the game quantity arguement. My point is that, that arguement is invalid. That within the year PS3 will have as many blockbuster games as the 360 and will be doing them better.
That's my point. Get it?
dubvisions
Oblivion is the same game. It nmay have better graphics and load times, but I doubt people will notice without a side by side comparison. If you didn't like the 360 version, you're not going to magically enjoy the PS3 version for slightly, (arguable) graphics.
Also, the amount of games has a huge impact when you go into a store. When someone goes into Gamespot, Walmart, Circuit City, Best Buy, Toys R' Us and see 5 shelves of 360 games and 1 shelf of PS3 games, the easy assumption is that there's going to be more interesting games on the 5 shelves. Not everyone reads reviews, although if they did, they'd probably still want the 360 games.
This year games like Gears of War, Dead Rising, Viva Pinata, Oblivion, Graw, Rainbow Six, Dead or Alive, PD0, Splinter Cell, Burnout Revenge, Saints Row, F.E.A.R., Fight Night, PGR3, ect. aren't going to suddenly become bad games. They're just going to be cheaper than the PS3 versions. For example you can now pick up Fight Night for around $20 now.
A year doesn't make a game obsolete. IF it does, I guess every game ever released pre2006 is worthless.
Also, the 360 is going to be releasing just as many hits this year as PS3, (more imo). That means more great titles than PS3, even at the end of this year, for less money.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]The advantages to the PS3 version seem rather minimal to be honest. Especially if all this buzz about a graphical update is true. And your argument doesn't make sense. The 360 has a one year lead on the games library in terms of raw numbers and blockbusters. But it will always have a one year lead, because one year from now the 360 will have two years worth of blockbusters. While the PS3 is releasing games like Lair and Heavenly Sword to catch up with Gears of War, PD0 and Kameo, the 360 will be releasing games like Mass Effect and Halo 3. Wrong, wrong, wrong. You can;t count both years fully. One year replaces another in some regards. Games come out with sequels or whatever and replace their predecessors. Games get better and better as a system gets older. That has always been the case. You can't keep talking about games from 2006 when they aren't cool in 2007 or beyond. There's only so many games that can make it through something like that. Yes, maybe it takes more than a year for a game to fade, maybe its two years. Either way my point is valid. No it's not. What ridiculousness is this, that 2006 games don't count towards the strength of a system. It doesn't matter if games are released at the beginning of a generation, or near the end, they all contribute towards the strength of the system. People will still be buying games like Gears of War this year, and next year, and your little esoteric attempts to divide them up based upon the years they were released in is irrelevant. Some of the best games on systems in history have been launch/early gen titles; Mario 64, OoT, Halo, MGS2, FF10 etc. Fact is, those 2006 games exist, and they are completely relevant in comparisons of the two consoles. The fact also is that 360 got a great head start in the games library that the PS3 is really going to have to work hard to catch. Do you suggest that when people go to purchase a console they're only able to buy games from their current year? That's stupid. What do we have backwards compatibility for.Man you guys are so far off base, it's not even funny. Yes, there are many PS3 owners that are excited about Oblivion. But it won't be the same Oblivion 360 users had. It will have faster laod times and better graphics (this comes from the game's developers).
My pint is that every time I see a thread discussing the two consoles PS3 and 360, a 360 fan jumps in with the game quantity arguement. My point is that, that arguement is invalid. That within the year PS3 will have as many blockbuster games as the 360 and will be doing them better.
That's my point. Get it?
dubvisions
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]The advantages to the PS3 version seem rather minimal to be honest. Especially if all this buzz about a graphical update is true. And your argument doesn't make sense. The 360 has a one year lead on the games library in terms of raw numbers and blockbusters. But it will always have a one year lead, because one year from now the 360 will have two years worth of blockbusters. While the PS3 is releasing games like Lair and Heavenly Sword to catch up with Gears of War, PD0 and Kameo, the 360 will be releasing games like Mass Effect and Halo 3.dubvisions
And so you admit to their being an "advantage", though small. Add that to all of the other "advantages" and you get a PS3 using a 360 as a stand.
Yes, the PS3 version has advantages over the 360 version. The 360 version also has advantages over the PS3 version (DLC, achievement points). The PC version has ridiculous advantages in all fields over both........Also, the amount of games has a huge impact when you go into a store. When someone goes into Gamespot, Walmart, Circuit City, Best Buy, Toys R' Us and see 5 shelves of 360 games and 1 shelf of PS3 games, the easy assumption is that there's going to be more interesting games on the 5 shelves. Not everyone reads reviews, although if they did, they'd probably still want the 360 games.....nnavidson
Are you kidding? This type of buyer has mommy and daddy with them. They will probably pick up the Wii but if not, yeah the 360 will look good. But good riddance. 360 can have all of the teeny-boppers.
Real gamers, and I'm not even talking about the guys on these message boards, will know what they're looking for. They'll know each system's potential and what is occuring on the game quantities. They will know what power each system possesses and how that power is/can be used in gaming and other media. On average they're in their twenties and love HD. They will want the best that is offered in HD gaming.
With all of that said, they walk by your full shelves of 360 games and they grap a PS3.
Yes, the PS3 version has advantages over the 360 version. The 360 version also has advantages over the PS3 version (DLC, achievement points). The PC version has ridiculous advantages in all fields over both.Danm_999
Achievement points? Wow, you mean you can get trailers and stuff that PS3 users get for free? Wow. Or maybe you get a free game-pack download where PS3 users have to pay. But you paid $50 for the Live service.
[QUOTE="nnavidson"].......Also, the amount of games has a huge impact when you go into a store. When someone goes into Gamespot, Walmart, Circuit City, Best Buy, Toys R' Us and see 5 shelves of 360 games and 1 shelf of PS3 games, the easy assumption is that there's going to be more interesting games on the 5 shelves. Not everyone reads reviews, although if they did, they'd probably still want the 360 games.....dubvisions
Are you kidding? This type of buyer has mommy and daddy with them. They will probably pick up the Wii but if not, yeah the 360 will look good. But good riddance. 360 can have all of the teeny-boppers.
Real gamers, and I'm not even talking about the guys on these message boards, will know what they're looking for. They'll know each system's potential and what is occuring on the game quantities. They will know what power each system possesses and how that power is/can be used in gaming and other media. On average they're in their twenties and love HD. They will want the best that is offered in HD gaming.
With all of that said, they walk by your full shelves of 360 games and they grap a PS3.
If console wars have taught us anything, it's that games libraries are the trump card. 360s is already great compared to the paltry offerings from the PS3. And 2007 only looks to widen the gap, with 360 bringing out it's big guns, whereas the PS3 looks like it's big hitters (FF13, MGS4) may be 2008 titles. So what is going to draw these 20 year olds (who usually have low incomes) to the most expensive console, with the least software?[QUOTE="Danm_999"]Yes, the PS3 version has advantages over the 360 version. The 360 version also has advantages over the PS3 version (DLC, achievement points). The PC version has ridiculous advantages in all fields over both.dubvisions
Achievement points? Wow, you mean you can get trailers and stuff that PS3 users get for free? Wow. Or maybe you get a free game-pack download where PS3 users have to pay. But you paid $50 for the Live service.
You don't use achievement points to buy things.... And hey, I'm not crazy about XBL, I think PC online is a far, far better service, but at least it's better than the ad-hoc PSN.Real gamers, and I'm not even talking about the guys on these message boards, will know what they're looking for.dubvisions
[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="nnavidson"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
Danm_999
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
Were not all excited to get them. I won't picking up none of those titles. Getting VF5 today and Motorstorm next month. The number of Oblivion comparison threads springing up would suggest Cows are indeed excited. Or excited to get MS fans to stop claiming that PS3 mulitplat games will always be inferior.If console wars have taught us anything, it's that games libraries are the trump card. 360s is already great compared to the paltry offerings from the PS3. And 2007 only looks to widen the gap, with 360 bringing out it's big guns, whereas the PS3 looks like it's big hitters (FF13, MGS4) may be 2008 titles. So what is going to draw these 20 year olds (who usually have low incomes) to the most expensive console, with the least software?Danm_999
Here's the other card the 360 fanboys love using, the price. Which is really pretty funny because when you get both systems even on peripherals and features, the 360 is just about as much as the PS3. Anyway.....
Twenty somethings may be broke, I know I usually am, but most will do whatever they can to get the electronics or toys they want. If someone can save $00, they can save $600. Don't tell me they can't.
If you're talking to a gamer that wants the best HD gaming and media experience, there's no other direction to look than the PS3. Full HD with potential for 1080p, wants those games are made. An HDMI port for the complete digital experince. And a blu-ray player that not only give you killer quality movies but will also work to make games better.
That's what will draw them. That's what has drawn them in PS2-record-breaking style!
[QUOTE="nnavidson"].......Also, the amount of games has a huge impact when you go into a store. When someone goes into Gamespot, Walmart, Circuit City, Best Buy, Toys R' Us and see 5 shelves of 360 games and 1 shelf of PS3 games, the easy assumption is that there's going to be more interesting games on the 5 shelves. Not everyone reads reviews, although if they did, they'd probably still want the 360 games.....dubvisions
Are you kidding? This type of buyer has mommy and daddy with them. They will probably pick up the Wii but if not, yeah the 360 will look good. But good riddance. 360 can have all of the teeny-boppers.
Real gamers, and I'm not even talking about the guys on these message boards, will know what they're looking for. They'll know each system's potential and what is occuring on the game quantities. They will know what power each system possesses and how that power is/can be used in gaming and other media. On average they're in their twenties and love HD. They will want the best that is offered in HD gaming.
With all of that said, they walk by your full shelves of 360 games and they grap a PS3.
That's why I wrote "Not everyone reads reviews, although if they did, they'd probably still want the 360 games....". Casuals will see more games and buy that system assuming it has more good games. A more researched audience will read reviews, realize that a large portion of those extra 360 games are good, and still buy the 360.
Looking at Gamespot reviews alone, 360 has 11 games that are scored higher than PS3's highest rated game.
[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="nnavidson"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
Javy03
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
Were not all excited to get them. I won't picking up none of those titles. Getting VF5 today and Motorstorm next month. The number of Oblivion comparison threads springing up would suggest Cows are indeed excited. Or excited to get MS fans to stop claiming that PS3 mulitplat games will always be inferior. What do u expect of months and months of cows going on and on about how the cell will show that multiplats will always be better on the PS3. It wasnt even just about the exclusives then, it was about multiplats been dumbed down for the 360 or disc swapping for 360 versions. Funny how in the past it was the multiplats that always determained which console was tech better.Here's the other card the 360 fanboys love using, the price. Which is really pretty funny because when you get both systems even on peripherals and features, the 360 is just about as much as the PS3. Anyway.....dubvisions
Twenty somethings may be broke, I know I usually am, but most will do whatever they can to get the electronics or toys they want. If someone can save $00, they can save $600. Don't tell me they can't.dubvisionsThey can, but why are they going to shell out $200 more for a system with a much weaker games library.
If you're talking to a gamer that wants the best HD gaming and media experience, there's no other direction to look than the PS3. Full HD with potential for 1080p, wants those games are made. An HDMI port for the complete digital experince. And a blu-ray player that not only give you killer quality movies but will also work to make games better.dubvisionsAnd this hypothetical 20 year old we're discussing, is probably not the gamer who wants the best HD gaming and media experience, because HD TVs are damn expensive, and only a quarter of households in the US own them. Standard definition is still the overwhelming majority, and 360 and PS3 play even in that, with 360 being cheaper and having the better games library.
And people have not been drawn in easily, PS3 sales have been terrible in comparison to the Wii and 360.
[QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
nnavidson
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
that's a good point[QUOTE="nnavidson"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
shungokustasu
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
Were not all excited to get them. I won't picking up none of those titles. Getting VF5 today and Motorstorm next month...... so which of those titles are you getting??
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]If console wars have taught us anything, it's that games libraries are the trump card. 360s is already great compared to the paltry offerings from the PS3. And 2007 only looks to widen the gap, with 360 bringing out it's big guns, whereas the PS3 looks like it's big hitters (FF13, MGS4) may be 2008 titles. So what is going to draw these 20 year olds (who usually have low incomes) to the most expensive console, with the least software?dubvisions
Here's the other card the 360 fanboys love using, the price. Which is really pretty funny because when you get both systems even on peripherals and features, the 360 is just about as much as the PS3. Anyway.....
Twenty somethings may be broke, I know I usually am, but most will do whatever they can to get the electronics or toys they want. If someone can save $00, they can save $600. Don't tell me they can't.
If you're talking to a gamer that wants the best HD gaming and media experience, there's no other direction to look than the PS3. Full HD with potential for 1080p, wants those games are made. An HDMI port for the complete digital experince. And a blu-ray player that not only give you killer quality movies but will also work to make games better.
That's what will draw them. That's what has drawn them in PS2-record-breaking style!
You can save $00 by not paying anything, getting evicted, and dying on the streets. You can't save $600 that way.
If you mean that someone can save $400, they can save $600, that's not quite it. After paying rent, heating, car insurance, ect. I could only justify spending about $300. $400 was $100 more than what I wanted to spend but I finally caved. $600 is double what I was willing to spend. I'll be waiting for a serious price drop for the next year or two.
Way to generalise 360 owners. Seems like you're just trying to find a reason to justify your purchase of the PS3. I also disagree with your "Real gamers..." sentence, not all "Real gamers" read into the technical specs of a console; the biggest selling point would be the current game library and upcoming releases.Are you kidding? This type of buyer has mommy and daddy with them. They will probably pick up the Wii but if not, yeah the 360 will look good. But good riddance. 360 can have all of the teeny-boppers.
Real gamers, and I'm not even talking about the guys on these message boards, will know what they're looking for. They'll know each system's potential and what is occuring on the game quantities. They will know what power each system possesses and how that power is/can be used in gaming and other media. On average they're in their twenties and love HD. They will want the best that is offered in HD gaming.
With all of that said, they walk by your full shelves of 360 games and they grap a PS3.
dubvisions
[QUOTE="Danm_999"]If console wars have taught us anything, it's that games libraries are the trump card. 360s is already great compared to the paltry offerings from the PS3. And 2007 only looks to widen the gap, with 360 bringing out it's big guns, whereas the PS3 looks like it's big hitters (FF13, MGS4) may be 2008 titles. So what is going to draw these 20 year olds (who usually have low incomes) to the most expensive console, with the least software?dubvisions
Here's the other card the 360 fanboys love using, the price. Which is really pretty funny because when you get both systems even on peripherals and features, the 360 is just about as much as the PS3. Anyway.....
Twenty somethings may be broke, I know I usually am, but most will do whatever they can to get the electronics or toys they want. If someone can save $00, they can save $600. Don't tell me they can't.
If you're talking to a gamer that wants the best HD gaming and media experience, there's no other direction to look than the PS3. Full HD with potential for 1080p, wants those games are made. An HDMI port for the complete digital experince. And a blu-ray player that not only give you killer quality movies but will also work to make games better.
That's what will draw them. That's what has drawn them in PS2-record-breaking style!
[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="nnavidson"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
Zandeus
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
Were not all excited to get them. I won't picking up none of those titles. Getting VF5 today and Motorstorm next month...... so which of those titles are you getting??
Wow... The most nerd thing you can do. I'm not here to write a paper professor. Professor, the real world is filled with different dialect. Professor, maybe you should get out in the real world. Professor, when is the next essay due?[QUOTE="dubvisions"][QUOTE="Danm_999"]If console wars have taught us anything, it's that games libraries are the trump card. 360s is already great compared to the paltry offerings from the PS3. And 2007 only looks to widen the gap, with 360 bringing out it's big guns, whereas the PS3 looks like it's big hitters (FF13, MGS4) may be 2008 titles. So what is going to draw these 20 year olds (who usually have low incomes) to the most expensive console, with the least software?nnavidson
Here's the other card the 360 fanboys love using, the price. Which is really pretty funny because when you get both systems even on peripherals and features, the 360 is just about as much as the PS3. Anyway.....
Twenty somethings may be broke, I know I usually am, but most will do whatever they can to get the electronics or toys they want. If someone can save $00, they can save $600. Don't tell me they can't.
If you're talking to a gamer that wants the best HD gaming and media experience, there's no other direction to look than the PS3. Full HD with potential for 1080p, wants those games are made. An HDMI port for the complete digital experince. And a blu-ray player that not only give you killer quality movies but will also work to make games better.
That's what will draw them. That's what has drawn them in PS2-record-breaking style!
You can save $00 by not paying anything, getting evicted, and dying on the streets. You can't save $600 that way.
If you mean that someone can save $400, they can save $600, that's not quite it. After paying rent, heating, car insurance, ect. I could only justify spending about $300. $400 was $100 more than what I wanted to spend but I finally caved. $600 is double what I was willing to spend. I'll be waiting for a serious price drop for the next year or two.
[QUOTE="Zandeus"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="nnavidson"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
shungokustasu
If last years 360 games are obsolete this year, why are PS3 owners so excited to get them this year?
Oblivion
Rainbow Six Vegas
Fear
Splinter Cell
Saints Row
Were not all excited to get them. I won't picking up none of those titles. Getting VF5 today and Motorstorm next month...... so which of those titles are you getting??
Wow... The most nerd thing you can do. I'm not here to write a paper professor. Professor, the real world is filled with different dialect. Professor, maybe you should get out in the real world. Professor, when is the next essay due?It's not a grammar or spelling issue that he's correcting. He's asking the writer to clarify the meaning, since his or her words completely contradict the assumed intention of the post.
Right.
I mean everyone has a pain threshold for spending money. $500 is just outside my pain threshold. I know I'm not alone there, especially when you look at what you get in return once you bring the thing home.
Maybe a year down the line, it may be worth that. But not right now.
VoodooHak
So, $500 is all you've spent? That's your threshold, right? Oh, wait............you have spent more than $500? Well how does your arguement make sense then?
It doesn't.
Here we go again... "JUST WAIT SIX MONTHS AND PS3 will own the 360 library" Am sorry, but if that happens then ill get a PS3 too. So basicly only the early PS3 adopters get owned, like u.Why do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
dubvisions
Ok, you just owned yourself. You said that the developers actually said, that the ps3 version has better graphics. Well, too bad that i read an interview with Bethesda, and they said that there is NO difference between the ps3 and 360 version graphically.Man you guys are so far off base, it's not even funny. Yes, there are many PS3 owners that are excited about Oblivion. But it won't be the same Oblivion 360 users had. It will have faster laod times and better graphics (this comes from the game's developers).
My pint is that every time I see a thread discussing the two consoles PS3 and 360, a 360 fan jumps in with the game quantity arguement. My point is that, that arguement is invalid. That within the year PS3 will have as many blockbuster games as the 360 and will be doing them better.
That's my point. Get it?
dubvisions
So, $500 is all you've spent? That's your threshold, right? Oh, wait............you have spent more than $500? Well how does your arguement make sense then?I think he means for a games console, and for a lot of people, that might be true.It doesn't.dubvisions
[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]Right.
I mean everyone has a pain threshold for spending money. $500 is just outside my pain threshold. I know I'm not alone there, especially when you look at what you get in return once you bring the thing home.
Maybe a year down the line, it may be worth that. But not right now.
dubvisions
So, $500 is all you've spent? That's your threshold, right? Oh, wait............you have spent more than $500? Well how does your arguement make sense then?
It doesn't.
Ok, you just owned yourself. You said that the developers actually said, that the ps3 version has better graphics. Well, too bad that i read an interview with Bethesda, and they said that there is NO difference between the ps3 and 360 version graphically. ilovesnowboard
Incorrect! The article you're referring to, I did read. It did confuse me and I started questioning what other biases we'd see on this site. But the two earlier videos and articles I read from IGN stated that the graphics were better. That they changed the way backgrounds were dealt with. That the 360 version would show a blurry background at odd distances and that the PS3 version would correct that. That it would be a noticable difference.
So read up, sonny boy. There is a graphic difference.
Here's a quote from the gamespot article, The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion PS3 Impressions by Brad Shoemaker here at GameSpot
"The real enhancement is in the visuals and, to some extent, the loading times. The game seemed to have a slightly smoother and more consistent frame rate than it did on the Xbox, though the difference wasn't enormous, and it seemed to us that the textures looked just a tad sharper. More obvious (and confirmed by Bethesda) was an improvement to the game's texturing over large distances. Remember how the original Oblivion had a line set an arbitrary distance in front of the player beyond which ground textures turned into kind of a muddy mess? That's all taken care of now, thanks to a new custom pixel shader. The effect is only noticeable outdoors--though it's more accurate to say the effect is not noticeable if you've never played a previous version of the game--but it's a nice addition nonetheless."
[QUOTE="dubvisions"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="dubvisions"]The advantages to the PS3 version seem rather minimal to be honest. Especially if all this buzz about a graphical update is true. And your argument doesn't make sense. The 360 has a one year lead on the games library in terms of raw numbers and blockbusters. But it will always have a one year lead, because one year from now the 360 will have two years worth of blockbusters. While the PS3 is releasing games like Lair and Heavenly Sword to catch up with Gears of War, PD0 and Kameo, the 360 will be releasing games like Mass Effect and Halo 3. Wrong, wrong, wrong. You can;t count both years fully. One year replaces another in some regards. Games come out with sequels or whatever and replace their predecessors. Games get better and better as a system gets older. That has always been the case. You can't keep talking about games from 2006 when they aren't cool in 2007 or beyond. There's only so many games that can make it through something like that. Yes, maybe it takes more than a year for a game to fade, maybe its two years. Either way my point is valid. No it's not. What ridiculousness is this, that 2006 games don't count towards the strength of a system. It doesn't matter if games are released at the beginning of a generation, or near the end, they all contribute towards the strength of the system. People will still be buying games like Gears of War this year, and next year, and your little esoteric attempts to divide them up based upon the years they were released in is irrelevant. Some of the best games on systems in history have been launch/early gen titles; Mario 64, OoT, Halo, MGS2, FF10 etc. Fact is, those 2006 games exist, and they are completely relevant in comparisons of the two consoles. The fact also is that 360 got a great head start in the games library that the PS3 is really going to have to work hard to catch. Do you suggest that when people go to purchase a console they're only able to buy games from their current year? That's stupid. What do we have backwards compatibility for. Good point.Man you guys are so far off base, it's not even funny. Yes, there are many PS3 owners that are excited about Oblivion. But it won't be the same Oblivion 360 users had. It will have faster laod times and better graphics (this comes from the game's developers).
My pint is that every time I see a thread discussing the two consoles PS3 and 360, a 360 fan jumps in with the game quantity arguement. My point is that, that arguement is invalid. That within the year PS3 will have as many blockbuster games as the 360 and will be doing them better.
That's my point. Get it?
Danm_999
if you never "argued" something b/c at some point in time in the future it would be moot, then WE WOULD NEVER ARGUE ANYTHING! Why would you argue PS3 is a good console when in 15 years it will be utter crap? Why do you brush your teeth in the morning when you know your breath will stank at 5pm or why do you brush them at all when you are 100 years old your teeth will be rotten either way. Why do you argue that blu-ray is good when it will be replaced by a much better techology in 20 years? your post = worthless and devoid of any good logicWhy do 360 owners hold the quantity of games in their hands like gold?? Don't they know that will change? That 360 has been out for a year longer than PS3? Don't they know this is a normal start for a console with new technologies to develope for?
Why hold on to the fact that 360 has more games when that really won't matter in six months? The 360 games released between 360's release and PS3's will be replaced and/or obsolete within the year. What then?
dubvisions
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