Why do console peasants pay to play online?

@NoodleFighter: They usually dont go down for long. Any service will have those issues. I use to have them all the time on Bnet. PSN also has more members then any online service PERIOD! Compare it now to what it was 10 years ago and the fact it has 3x the numbers and id say its without question gotten better. Not to mention the sheer amount of AAA games they invest in.

And yes cheating is still a big deal on PC. Its not a big issue for Esports because those take place locally. But for the average joe playing online ive encountered it far more on PC then consoles.

I pay $60/year and get 48 games with it, works out for me.

I pay to play on consoles so I don't have to associate with filthy, basement dwelling neckbeards.

I don't get it either. I'm butthurt Nintendo is requiring to pay soon.

Serious question. If I get these "free games" via PSN or XBL do I still get to keep them if I stop paying for the online service?

I just think there's so much shovelware on Steam now, that a lot of good games seem to get buried under it all. It makes navigating the store quite a pain in the butt at times. You can search for indies on their own, but there's no easy way to separate the indies from other things you may be looking for. Also it's great that early access allows the lesser know developers a chance to get their games onto a marketplace, but there's a lot of early access titles that just end up being half finished and never released, which then avalanche the games list even more.

I get that it's an enormous library of games they sell, I just wish they had a better way or organising, and categorising them all. Perhaps if they added some better search filter options, it would end up being more intuitive to use. That being said, I don't think that Steam is a terrible store, and it's awesome that they allow refunds now. I just think there's room for improvement with it.

You say this, yet every other thread is a consolite bragging about the graphics on his preferred console compared to the other console. Hypocrite much?

You don't "get" 48 games. You rent 48 games.

Negative. You either keep the PS3 or Xbox 360 games, can't remember which one. But you don't get to keep any of the PS4 or Xbone games.

To harvest back part of the loss from the console sale.

OP..why do basement dwelling hermits spend 500$ on graphxcards?

Would be pretty close in Base5

The only people who make this argument are those that don't game on PC. I haven't encountered a hacker in competitive games (CS:GO, OW, R6, etc.) in at least 5 years. Anti-cheat systems have gotten incredibly efficient. Hacking was only really a problem back in the CS 1.6 days. With Source, Valve really stepped up their game, and in the current era of competitive games, all the anti-cheat systems are fantastic.

LOL I love that quote. What on earth could be better about PSNow? Only an employee could say that

@cainetao11: Lmao. All you can do is laugh at the clowns.

*And a correction from my post, "Epitomizes" not "optimizes". Lol.

@DragonfireXZ95: soooo what you're saying is that i'm a hypocrite because of the actions of strangers comments in other threads?? Sound logic. Oh, and read my second sentence.

because when you play online on consoles, you are safe from all those stupid trolls that populate the PC online scene.

I get to keep 24 of those 48, Xbox 360 games are for keeps, the other 24 XB1 games sure, available as long as I have an active XBL subscription. I have more than enough time to put them behind me for good.

Okay, first, you generalized all PC gamers into one, asking why PC gamers like to brag so much. Second, you chastised them and tell them no one cares about their PC specs.

So, it's okay for you to generalize all PC gamers into one, but when I say console gamers make threads about their own graphical prowess, it's automatically not okay?

Do you know the definition of a hypocrite?

Why do PC gamers want to play with a bunch of 13 year old cheaters?

I rarely play online games so I dont pay.

I'd rather it was free, but I do a lot of online gaming so paying a little bit yearly doesn't bother me. Plus it's easily made back with the games they offer with plus.

Kids don't play on PC. Parents are far more likely to buy a cheapo console for their kid than a $1000+ gaming rig. No cheaters anymore either. Modern anti-cheat systems are excellent.

I hope you know what he means "13 year old cheaters" as it has nothing to do with age, but maturity.

You don't need a $1000+ gaming rig to play PC games, check out the surveys. No cheaters anymore? Gimme a ****** break.

@UssjTrunks: Modern anti cheat systems are great, Bwahahahaha, oh god thanks for the laugh.

Because there are a lot of myths surrounding PC gaming

Better call "The Mythbusters" so we can get to the bottom of those PC mythos XD

@DragonfireXZ95: ohhh too bad I said PC elitists so it's not generalizing all PC gamers. Re-read my first sentence for that. And I mentioned Console gamers arguing being children (again 2nd sentence) so I'm not sure you know the definition of hypocrite.

My question was more relevant than"why do console peasants pay for online?" Why do PC elitists have to mention superiority constantly unless it's from insecurity? PC is superior to consoles, everyone knows it, but for some reason the giant seems to need to remind everyone that he is the biggest in the room. Why? My rationale was because the average person in real life does'nt care what graphics card you have so you have to feel superior online. So far, you proved my point by simply calling me a hypocrite and ignoring my other points. If you have another rational reasoning other than insecurity for why PC elitists feel that way I would love to hear it, because so far, you have dodged the question :-)

I read your initial cringey post and they haven't gotten any better. It is moronic to come into a System Wars thread and scold someone for being divisive and asserting a superiority complex in regards to their preferred gaming platform. I'm not sure why you're having so much trouble with this aside from being triggered.

@Johnny-n-Roger: it's an honest johnny. Everyone knows PC is superior, so again, why does the giant need to tell everyone in the room they are the biggest? My rationale was insecurity and to feel superior online to counteract real life. So far no one has brought up a counter point, only throw insults and dodge my points. Sorry Johnny, but your quip didn't add anything to my question. So far i'm either i'm a hypocrite for not lashing out a console fanboys at the same time I posted this, or i'm dumb for going to system wars "scold someone on a preference." - and i'm the triggered one lol

You were obviously mad about this whole thread. The OP didn't once mention his PC specs or how much the console specs suck, so I'm not even sure why you're trying to find an answer to that question here.

Since the OP didn't even mention his PC specs, yet you mentioned it, I assumed you were generalizing; because, obviously, if the OP didn't mention that, then you couldn't have been talking about him, so who were you speaking of? The general PC community, perhaps?

Also, as Johnny-N-Roger mentioned, it's system wars. Of course one group of people is going to gloat if they have an up on everyone else, hence why I also generalized(as you did, even though you claimed you didn't).

^obviously never played on PC.

@DragonfireXZ95: like I already mentioned numerous times, that was my rationale for why it was made in the first place. Also again, both of you have dodged my question. Why make a thread if everyone knows PC is superior other than insecurity? No answer so far..

Yes you're correct - PC players have no concept of having a first-party. Rather, they surrender control of their pseudo-platform to opportunistic, un-regulated clients.

They're all driving kit cars and having them serviced at unauthroised dealers.

Solely to rustle your jimmies.

ironic, being that consoles are restricted to running nothing but proprietary software. You're literally at the mercy of the manufacturer to allow you to have certain features.

To complete your shitty analogy you must also describe how having a console is like having an average tier car that only an authorized dealer can even unlatch the hood or pop the trunk. Also, any parts, accessories, and fuel products must be certified by the dealer. It's the best situation for someone who's mechanically inept.

I never understand why anyone is concerned with how people spend their own money. Guess they don't have much of it themselves.

You obviously don't SW very often.

Not much. Here and there. LOL

you've pretty much gone into at least 3 threads now and said something to the effect of "Why do other people care?"

I honestly don't think most people in here do. It's kind of like how no one argues about politics expecting to change anyone elses mind. It's just a way to affirm one's worldview I guess.

It's not ironic - it's apt.

You're not at the mercy of the manufacturer, they're at your service. This is something Valve cannot and will not ever give you. PC has not first-party, no continuity of the R&D.

It has mixed hardware controlled by a corp. who didn't manufacture the hardware and (some) drivers, then you launch another client (third-party) to launch software that the client does not specifically support, and then you plug hardware into this that is self-selected and unknown to the developer. And you call this superior...

No company cares about your PC, and any game you play on it is an experience no other user is getting. So it's a pseudo-platform in every way.

Probably cause some of us are successful and the cost really doesn’t matter. If paying for online is an issue to an individual, I surmise, that individual isn’t successful.

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