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Your first mistake is assuming Battlefield 3 is an sequel to bad company 2..it isn't. Have you seen any of the trailers of BF3 or did you just play BC2 on the PC and assume that would be the general idea?lawlessxNo, I have seen BF3 footage and it looks similar enough to BC2 to make a comparison, and this is with the new footage in mind.
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Because it does?brandontwbI predicted this type of response long before I even made this thread.
So? The thread is'nt about your affinity for prescience.
BF has better graphics on a technical level.
You mean realistic animation? COD 4 set a new standard for animation but theyve gotten lazy now. Black Ops ladder climb animation is laughable. Realistic animation makes a game more immersive. Theirs absolutely no drawback to good animation.
The superior sound fx of BF are bad thing too right? Dice forgetting that its just a game.
Activision is just resting on their laurels.
This proves my point exactly. The Vietnam screenshot looks so washed out and monotone. In the Call of Duty picture, everything is so much more crisp. This also shows off the map design, where Call of Duty's maps are much more intricate, detailed and unique when compared to Battlefield.BLOPS Maxed out on PC
Bad Company 2 Not Max, high settings DX10
ferret-gamer
[QUOTE="lawlessx"]Your first mistake is assuming Battlefield 3 is an sequel to bad company 2..it isn't. Have you seen any of the trailers of BF3 or did you just play BC2 on the PC and assume that would be the general idea?brandontwbNo, I have seen BF3 footage and it looks similar enough to BC2 to make a comparison, and this is with the new footage in mind.
well i think you need to check your eyes if you think BF3 looks similar enough to BC2 , either that or stop watching in 240p.
[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Because it does?brandontwbI predicted this type of response long before I even made this thread.
Well it does.
CoD games are still running on ID Tech 3, which is mid 90's software I believe. The size and scale of BF games adds to the looks of the games. Also, with destruction in BF:BC2, the look of the map at the start of a round and the look of the map at the end of the round are very distinct. Building crumbled, forrests cleared, pipes detroyed, towers burning/collapsed. Also, the fact that there are a bunch of tanks and helicopters flying around causing explosions and themselves exploding, really adds to the visual appeal of the games. Now to the actual graphics, they are crap in CoD games. There are reasons that they run at 60fps on consoles. Look at 75-85% the textures in CoD: BOs and they look like games from the mid 90's (again, cause the games are built using an engine that old). So that is why we think that way.
No, I have seen BF3 footage and it looks similar enough to BC2 to make a comparison, and this is with the new footage in mind.[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="lawlessx"]Your first mistake is assuming Battlefield 3 is an sequel to bad company 2..it isn't. Have you seen any of the trailers of BF3 or did you just play BC2 on the PC and assume that would be the general idea?ksko
well i think you need to check your eyes if you think BF3 looks similar enough to BC2 , either that or stop watching in 240p.
It has the same attributes, although it does look more refined. Empty rooms, lack of detail in maps, but I do understand it must sacrifice these element to broaden it's scale. Again it's the same flashy animations, bloom and motionblur that make it look like it does. Remove that and it now it looks terrible. Keep in mind I still find the game's graphics impressive, but in a different way. Overall I still think Call of Duty's graphics are better.I predicted this type of response long before I even made this thread.[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Because it does?arto1223
Well it does.
CoD games are still running on ID Tech 3, which is mid 90's software I believe. The size and scale of BF games adds to the looks of the games. Also, with destruction in BF:BC2, the look of the map at the start of a round and the look of the map at the end of the round are very distinct. Building crumbled, forrests cleared, pipes detroyed, towers burning/collapsed. Also, the fact that there are a bunch of tanks and helicopters flying around causing explosions and themselves exploding, really adds to the visual appeal of the games. Now to the actual graphics, they are crap in CoD games. There are reasons that they run at 60fps on consoles. Look at 75-85% the textures in CoD: BOs and they look like games from the mid 90's (again, cause the games are built using an engine that old). So that is why we think that way.
The thing is though you can't just say: it does. This is my honest opinion that it's not, but I never said it's hard in stone that my opinion is right. I think there are other elements that contribute to good graphics other than textures, what matters is how you use those textures, and how they are detailed. Just because the textures are higher resolution, does not mean it looks better to me. I understand CoD is running on upgraded old tech, but that doesn't really mean anything, I still think it looks better. What game I find really impressive is Just Cause 2. That game has the new technology in place and it has the scale too, yet it manages to look MILES better than anything I've seen in Battlefield. It's colorful, detailed and super refined.http://www.gametrailers.com/video/fault-line-battlefield-3/711134?
You're trying to say MW2 looks better than this? If so..you really need to get those fanboy glasses off. You keep complaining about the colors and the "flashy" animations..you do know that battlefield is aiming for a more realistic take on warfare than the call of duty series right?
Because i played both and Battlefield looks better.TheGuardian03I've played BF1942, desert combat mod, BF2, BC1, 1943, and BC2 EXTENSIVELY and also COD4,5,6,7 extensively as well. It is my opinion that in their latest entries, Call of Duty looks much, much better. I am running BC2 and Black Ops both maxed, 60FPS at 1080p.
That first screen is so bland. It's a piece of land with empty buildings placed randomly throughout it. The trees in the back are sprites and there is on colour here at all. Thank you for helping me prove all my points by showing off how bland this game looks. Look at the Call of Duty map. Even though you tried to pick the worst screenshot you could it still proves my point. Those are not randomly placed buildings everywhere, each building has tons of detail in it as well as purpose. This map is better designed than anything I've seen in Battlefield because it is so intricate and flows very nicely. Also that's Call of Duty 4 nice try.Bad Company 2 looks more cartoony and simple. Technically the graphics are better.
This is CoD4 in its max possible graphical settings. 16xAA, max drawdistance, etc...
Jebus213
[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Because i played both and Battlefield looks better.brandontwbI've played BF1942, desert combat mod, BF2, BC1, 1943, and BC2 EXTENSIVELY and also COD4,5,6,7 extensively as well. It is my opinion that in their latest entries, Call of Duty looks much, much better. I am running BC2 and Black Ops both maxed, 60FPS at 1080p. wow, sorry to tell you this but your opinion is dead wrong then...im sorry but BC2 just looks so much better than any COD, and BC2 is not the same league, not even the same sport as BF3...you claim both games lack detail, HAH BC2 enviroments are extremely detailed, take your time to see the textures still, the enviroments, the weapons, they all look beautiful, plus the character movements. and go see a BF3 video in full HD
[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Because i played both and Battlefield looks better.lightleggyI've played BF1942, desert combat mod, BF2, BC1, 1943, and BC2 EXTENSIVELY and also COD4,5,6,7 extensively as well. It is my opinion that in their latest entries, Call of Duty looks much, much better. I am running BC2 and Black Ops both maxed, 60FPS at 1080p. wow, sorry to tell you this but your opinion is dead wrong then...im sorry but BC2 just looks so much better than any COD, and BC2 is not the same league, not even the same sport as BF3...you claim both games lack detail, HAH BC2 enviroments are extremely detailed, take your time to see the textures still, the enviroments, the weapons, they all look beautiful, plus the character movements. and go see a BF3 video in full HDDo you hear me telling you that your opinion is dead wrong? No I'm not going down to that level, I repsect your opinion and understand it. I still think Call of Duty looks better due to all my points stated.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"]That first screen is so bland. It's a piece of land with empty buildings placed randomly throughout it. The trees in the back are sprites and there is on colour here at all. Thank you for helping me prove all my points by showing off how bland this game looks. Look at the Call of Duty map. Those are not randomly placed buildings everywhere, each building has detail and purpose. Also that's Call of Duty 4 nice try.Bad Company 2 looks more cartoony and simple. Technically the graphics are better.
This is CoD4 in its max possible graphical settings. 16xAA, max drawdistance, etc...
brandontwb
The trees arent sprites, BC2 is much more impressive technically, it does look way better than any COD game, look at the valparaiso map, I get killed so many times because sometimes I just stare at the beautiful vistas.
although I can understand why you dont look it...you just dont like the art ****BC2 has, the graphics are kind of cartoonish, not everyone likes that, but they are great.
[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]I've played BF1942, desert combat mod, BF2, BC1, 1943, and BC2 EXTENSIVELY and also COD4,5,6,7 extensively as well. It is my opinion that in their latest entries, Call of Duty looks much, much better. I am running BC2 and Black Ops both maxed, 60FPS at 1080p. brandontwbwow, sorry to tell you this but your opinion is dead wrong then...im sorry but BC2 just looks so much better than any COD, and BC2 is not the same league, not even the same sport as BF3...you claim both games lack detail, HAH BC2 enviroments are extremely detailed, take your time to see the textures still, the enviroments, the weapons, they all look beautiful, plus the character movements. and go see a BF3 video in full HDDo you hear me telling you that your opinion is dead wrong? No I'm not going down to that level, I repsect your opinion and understand it. I still think Call of Duty looks better due to all my points stated.
its just the obvious thing to say, I dont want to sound rough, but hey, BC2 is just way more impressive, perhaps you've been looking at the game wrong? I also used to think the game's graphics were crap, but now I love them
[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]This proves my point exactly. The Vietnam screenshot looks so washed out and monotone. In the Call of Duty picture, everything is so much more crisp. This also shows off the map design, where Call of Duty's maps are much more intricate, detailed and unique when compared to Battlefield.BLOPS Maxed out on PC
Bad Company 2 Not Max, high settings DX10
brandontwb
The BFBC2 picture isnt maxed, and the blops screenie looks more washed out.
[QUOTE="Jebus213"]That first screen is so bland. It's a piece of land with empty buildings placed randomly throughout it. The trees in the back are sprites and there is on colour here at all. Thank you for helping me prove all my points by showing off how bland this game looks. Look at the Call of Duty map. Those are not randomly placed buildings everywhere, each building has detail and purpose. Also that's Call of Duty 4 nice try.Bad Company 2 looks more cartoony and simple. Technically the graphics are better.
This is CoD4 in its max possible graphical settings. 16xAA, max drawdistance, etc...
brandontwb
Technically BC2 graphics are better but the design is simple, dull, and cartoony. Also I did say it was CoD4 which doesn't matter since CoD4 and Mw2 look the same...
Am I the only one who thought that Call of Duty FOUR was incredibly shallow and just as bad as the rest of the Call of Dutys? Everyone on here seems to hate Call of Duty now that it's the big thing. It got popular, and now everyone hates it. I don't see how you could have loved CoD4 and hate the new ones, seeing how they are essentially the same thing. Granted, that could be a reason to get frustrated (the lack of progress), but Halo is largely the same gameplay wise and I still love it.
Yay for hypocrisy.
That first screen is so bland. It's a piece of land with empty buildings placed randomly throughout it. The trees in the back are sprites and there is on colour here at all. Thank you for helping me prove all my points by showing off how bland this game looks. Look at the Call of Duty map. Those are not randomly placed buildings everywhere, each building has detail and purpose. Also that's Call of Duty 4 nice try.[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]
Bad Company 2 looks more cartoony and simple. Technically the graphics are better.
This is CoD4 in its max possible graphical settings. 16xAA, max drawdistance, etc...
lightleggy
The trees arent sprites, BC2 is much more impressive technically, it does look way better than any COD game, look at the valparaiso map, I get killed so many times because sometimes I just stare at the beautiful vistas.
although I can understand why you dont look it...you just dont like the art ****BC2 has, the graphics are kind of cartoonish, not everyone likes that, but they are great.
You can't argue one thing is better technically, because you can't define if a technique is better looking than any other technique. You can argue, however, that BF is more demanding and requires more processing power.. because that is a fact, but it doesn't necessarily contribute to what I think is better graphically.This proves my point exactly. The Vietnam screenshot looks so washed out and monotone. In the Call of Duty picture, everything is so much more crisp. This also shows off the map design, where Call of Duty's maps are much more intricate, detailed and unique when compared to Battlefield.[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]
BLOPS Maxed out on PC
Bad Company 2 Not Max, high settings DX10
kris9031998
The BFBC2 picture isnt maxed, and the blops screenie looks more washed out.
Look at how much detail your eyes can perceive from the Black Ops screenie.. the level of detail is uncomparable to BC2. Every building is uniquely hand designed whilst BC2 is a copy and paste job of brown empty messes.That pick might as well be considered max.. I play it enough to know that. You have ambient occlusion off maybe? Perhaps one setting is to medium. Doesn't matter, it wont get much better.That first screen is so bland. It's a piece of land with empty buildings placed randomly throughout it. The trees in the back are sprites and there is on colour here at all. Thank you for helping me prove all my points by showing off how bland this game looks. Look at the Call of Duty map. Those are not randomly placed buildings everywhere, each building has detail and purpose. Also that's Call of Duty 4 nice try.[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="Jebus213"]
Bad Company 2 looks more cartoony and simple. Technically the graphics are better.
This is CoD4 in its max possible graphical settings. 16xAA, max drawdistance, etc...
Jebus213
Technically BC2 graphics are better but the design is simple, dull, and cartoony. Also I did say it was CoD4 which doesn't matter since CoD4 and Mw2 look the same...
MW2 is much improved over CoD4, however the attention to detail and map design are roughly equal.Yeah they are insanely similar in their game design and not much has changed in that regard. I don't think it's shallow or bad though. I love Halo as well, Halo 3 being my favourite.Am I the only one who thought that Call of Duty FOUR was incredibly shallow and just as bad as the rest of the Call of Dutys? Everyone on here seems to hate Call of Duty now that it's the big thing. It got popular, and now everyone hates it. I don't see how you could have loved CoD4 and hate the new ones, seeing how they are essentially the same thing. Granted, that could be a reason to get frustrated (the lack of progress), but Halo is largely the same gameplay wise and I still love it.
Yay for hypocrisy.
KSU-Wildcat
[QUOTE="KSU-Wildcat"]Yeah they are insanely similar in their game design and not much has changed in that regard. I don't think it's shallow or bad though. I love Halo as well, Halo 3 being my favourite.Am I the only one who thought that Call of Duty FOUR was incredibly shallow and just as bad as the rest of the Call of Dutys? Everyone on here seems to hate Call of Duty now that it's the big thing. It got popular, and now everyone hates it. I don't see how you could have loved CoD4 and hate the new ones, seeing how they are essentially the same thing. Granted, that could be a reason to get frustrated (the lack of progress), but Halo is largely the same gameplay wise and I still love it.
Yay for hypocrisy.
brandontwb
Bad was a bit harsh on my part, seeing how everyone likes different things. It's just never been for me, you know? I don't like how people loved CoD4 and now everyone hates the new Call of Dutys. The only thing I can understad, again, is them being potentially frustrated with the lack of percieved progress in the series, but I own them all (I can't bring myself not to, by brother is always deployed and he loves playing it, so I play it with him on occassion) and they all play essentially the same.
Do you hear me telling you that your opinion is dead wrong? No I'm not going down to that level, I repsect your opinion and understand it. I still think Call of Duty looks better due to all my points stated.[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="lightleggy"] wow, sorry to tell you this but your opinion is dead wrong then...im sorry but BC2 just looks so much better than any COD, and BC2 is not the same league, not even the same sport as BF3...you claim both games lack detail, HAH BC2 enviroments are extremely detailed, take your time to see the textures still, the enviroments, the weapons, they all look beautiful, plus the character movements. and go see a BF3 video in full HDlightleggy
its just the obvious thing to say, I dont want to sound rough, but hey, BC2 is just way more impressive, perhaps you've been looking at the game wrong? I also used to think the game's graphics were crap, but now I love them
Your not used to a game being covered with a bunch of animation and visual effects. Kidding, but I agree it can sometimes look bad depending on what map it is or what you're running it on.Black Ops looks absolutely horrible. I was stunned when I started playing it.
Chutebox
[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Someone give the TC a pic of the bullet casing picture of BF3 vs. MW3.lawlessxapparently attention to detail isn't important. Besides wasn't it proven that the clip was upside down?Attention to detail is important, it just needs to be in the right places.. you know like buildings (the things you play within) and the general map and not... bullet casings.
Yeah they are insanely similar in their game design and not much has changed in that regard. I don't think it's shallow or bad though. I love Halo as well, Halo 3 being my favourite.[QUOTE="brandontwb"][QUOTE="KSU-Wildcat"]
Am I the only one who thought that Call of Duty FOUR was incredibly shallow and just as bad as the rest of the Call of Dutys? Everyone on here seems to hate Call of Duty now that it's the big thing. It got popular, and now everyone hates it. I don't see how you could have loved CoD4 and hate the new ones, seeing how they are essentially the same thing. Granted, that could be a reason to get frustrated (the lack of progress), but Halo is largely the same gameplay wise and I still love it.
Yay for hypocrisy.
KSU-Wildcat
Bad was a bit harsh on my part, seeing how everyone likes different things. It's just never been for me, you know? I don't like how people loved CoD4 and now everyone hates the new Call of Dutys. The only thing I can understad, again, is them being potentially frustrated with the lack of percieved progress in the series, but I own them all (I can't bring myself not to, by brother is always deployed and he loves playing it, so I play it with him on occassion) and they all play essentially the same.
It's possible that people just get bored of games then start to eventually hate it.. especially when there is a lack of innovation in such games. They might have good memories of what it was like playing when they actually enjoyed it hence liking the older versions more. Also people go through difference experiences.BC2 is far mire advanced, this is a fact. BC2 looks much, much better.millerlight89You can't actually prove one is more advanced, only that it requires more processing power to run. Well, maybe you can prove it's more advanced, but you cannot prove that it's advanced-ness contributes to better graphics. I actually highly highly, dislike BC2 graphics. It goes against everything I want to see in a game.
Both. BC2 single player is especially despicable. I enjoy the characters just not the game. I think COD campaigns are generally good because there so much gameplay variety and it's so action packed.Are you playing single, multi player or both?
mitu123
[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="brandontwb"]That first screen is so bland. It's a piece of land with empty buildings placed randomly throughout it. The trees in the back are sprites and there is on colour here at all. Thank you for helping me prove all my points by showing off how bland this game looks. Look at the Call of Duty map. Those are not randomly placed buildings everywhere, each building has detail and purpose. Also that's Call of Duty 4 nice try.brandontwb
Technically BC2 graphics are better but the design is simple, dull, and cartoony. Also I did say it was CoD4 which doesn't matter since CoD4 and Mw2 look the same...
MW2 is much improved over CoD4, however the attention to detail and map design are roughly equal.You mean much improved nothing? Texture streaming really isn't an improvement...
[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="bbkkristian"]Someone give the TC a pic of the bullet casing picture of BF3 vs. MW3.brandontwbapparently attention to detail isn't important. Besides wasn't it proven that the clip was upside down?Attention to detail is important, it just needs to be in the right places.. you know like buildings (the things you play within) and the general map and not... bullet casings.
odd..im pretty sure the BF series was mostly about warfare on the field..not so much in buildings..someone who claims to have played every battlfield game in the series really shouldn't be complaining about the interior detail of a building that is designed to be torn apart.
[QUOTE="millerlight89"]BC2 is far mire advanced, this is a fact. BC2 looks much, much better.brandontwbYou can't actually prove one is more advanced, only that it requires more processing power to run. Well, maybe you can prove it's more advanced, but you cannot prove that it's advanced-ness contributes to better graphics. I actually highly highly, dislike BC2 graphics. It goes against everything I want to see in a game. Yea I can. CoD is based off of ID tech 3.... if you don't know frostbite is more advanced then I'm sorry,but it is. You don't like the graphics, that's fine. BC2 looks leagues better than CoD to me and guess what, not all the objects are static in the frostbite engine, unlike what you see in CoD. You dislike it, but that doesn't mean it doesn't look better.
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