Why do people(or rather fanboys) use VC games to back-up Wii's pathetic library?

Seriously OoT is a Nintendo 64 game. Not a wii game. But but teh wii has BC of all Nintendo consoles!! no it doesn't. BC = being able to play nearly all the games from that system. Not 4-8 games which people own 100 times over.

Just Admit Wii's library is lacking and that the future looks to be full of average games made by developers who are spending more time and money on quality 360/PS3 games and less time and money(although more frequently) on wii games(UBI soft doing this a lot). Why make a 2 year project masterpiece(Asassins Creed) on Wii when you can make a cooking simulation(Rayman Rabbids 2) and get more sales? Developers know wii is easy to make games for so they make anything...i mean ANYTHING.

Is this a Wii bashing thread? Not really, just saying the wii will not have the library of games people are magically expecting. Also VC = past games not Wii games. At least GC was in competition with Xbox and PS2 so it got some real games...Wii is going a totally new and wacky path. Wiifit FTW!!!

P.S i wasn't referring Rayman as a Cooking game just used that genre as an example(mini games).

I'm guessing their personal enjoyment of a major feature on the console is quite hard to understand.

Granted, I could tell you how much I enjoy downing games I've missed out on back in the day and playing them on the Wii, but it seems like that's just not up to system wars "quality" (does that qualify as an oxymoron?).

Yeah, you're so right, nobody is working on quality Wii titles, they're all working on great quality games like Lair, and really in depth games like Heavenly Sword.

Don't be ignorant, the 3rd party support at TGS was great for the Wii.

Downloading old games is a neat side dish but not the main course.

Brand new downloadable content, thats something you can brag about or at least adding new features to old games, something the VC does not do.

Downloading old games is a neat side dish but not the main course.

Brand new downloadable content, thats something you can brag about or at least adding new features to old games, something the VC does not do.

Bread_or_Decide

having downloadable games add to that consoles game library whether they're for old consoles or original titles. therefore games like zelda oot, super mario 64, suoper mario world, streets of rage 2 and sonic the hedgehog can all be considered wii titles.

/thread.

They are games, good and fun games, available for both the original system and the Wii. Sometimes finding the games for the original system is difficult or expensive. By Nintendo providing a reasonable alternative to hunting down a possibly working copy of a 15 year old game is quite an advantage for the Wii.foxhound_fox

I don't care if you love VC games just ackwoledge them as being the games on that paticular system. It's not a wii game so saying "wii" has OoT it owns 360/PS3 is just stupid(i know i'm not talking about you).

having downloadable games add to that consoles game library whether they're for old consoles or original titles. therefore games like zelda oot, super mario 64, suoper mario world, streets of rage 2 and sonic the hedgehog can all be considered wii titles.

/thread.

my_name_is_ron

By that logic the PS3 library just got gigantic andinherited allof PS2's AAA's.

Sorry, backwards compatability and VC downloads are not part of the console library. Only new downloadable titles count.

Is this a Wii bashing thread? Not really, just saying the wii will not have the library of games people are magically expecting.

Riviera_Phantom

hmm i like how the wiis library of games are shappying up and i like that i can catch up on games i missed out on in my youth on the vc. especially things on the turbo graphics.

and i enjoy vc titles just like i do xbox live arcade titles. they give me something to do when i am waiting between major releases. i mean you can only play so much gears before you start getting bored with it. but i could play puzzle fighter all year long!

having downloadable games add to that consoles game library whether they're for old consoles or original titles. therefore games like zelda oot, super mario 64, suoper mario world, streets of rage 2 and sonic the hedgehog can all be considered wii titles.

/thread.

my_name_is_ron

They are not Wii titles. /your post.

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

having downloadable games add to that consoles game library whether they're for old consoles or original titles. therefore games like zelda oot, super mario 64, suoper mario world, streets of rage 2 and sonic the hedgehog can all be considered wii titles.

/thread.

Bread_or_Decide

By that logic the PS3 library just got gigantic andinherited allof PS2's AAA's.

Sorry, backwards compatability and VC downloads are not part of the console library. Only new downloadable titles count.

well no. ifa game is available for that console then surely it becomes part of it's catalogue? this includes all old titles that are comatible with ps3, xbox 360 and wii. in whatever form they're available (including download and backwards compatability). ofcourse a new console shouldn't be judged on what old school titles it has and it's only going to be successful by having a fairly constant stream of new, original titles. but a good game doesn't become bad over time and the titles available over the virtual console shouldn't be devalued simply because they're available for other older and obsolete consoles.

I don't know. Why DO fanboys do the many ridiculous and ignorant things that they do?

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

having downloadable games add to that consoles game library whether they're for old consoles or original titles. therefore games like zelda oot, super mario 64, suoper mario world, streets of rage 2 and sonic the hedgehog can all be considered wii titles.

/thread.

my_name_is_ron

By that logic the PS3 library just got gigantic andinherited allof PS2's AAA's.

Sorry, backwards compatability and VC downloads are not part of the console library. Only new downloadable titles count.

well no. ifa game is available for that console then surely it becomes part of it's catalogue? this includes all old titles that are comatible with ps3, xbox 360 and wii. in whatever form they're available (including download and backwards compatability). ofcourse a new console shouldn't be judged on what old school titles it has and it's only going to be successful by having a fairly constant stream of new, original titles. but a good game doesn't become bad over time and the titles available over the virtual console shouldn't be devalued simply because they're available for other older and obsolete consoles.

Where do you pull this out of? If PS1 and PS2 games were included in PS3 library then it would be SW's best next gen console.

"and if you sheep want to count VC as wii games, then ps3 is the BEST system available now with its BC."

The PS3 has HORRIBLE BC. Not only do some of the games not working (especially on European PS3s), but many of the games that do "work", work horribly. I will post more details on this later.

hello have you played metroidmistervengeance

Metroid what? 3? No it's not out here yet.

Downloading old games is a neat side dish but not the main course.

Brand new downloadable content, thats something you can brag about or at least adding new features to old games, something the VC does not do.

Bread_or_Decide

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

having downloadable games add to that consoles game library whether they're for old consoles or original titles. therefore games like zelda oot, super mario 64, suoper mario world, streets of rage 2 and sonic the hedgehog can all be considered wii titles.

/thread.

my_name_is_ron

By that logic the PS3 library just got gigantic andinherited allof PS2's AAA's.

Sorry, backwards compatability and VC downloads are not part of the console library. Only new downloadable titles count.

well no. ifa game is available for that console then surely it becomes part of it's catalogue? this includes all old titles that are comatible with ps3, xbox 360 and wii. in whatever form they're available (including download and backwards compatability). ofcourse a new console shouldn't be judged on what old school titles it has and it's only going to be successful by having a fairly constant stream of new, original titles. but a good game doesn't become bad over time and the titles available over the virtual console shouldn't be devalued simply because they're available for other older and obsolete consoles.

Stepping outside in the real world, yeah the VC is a nice addition to a list of "why I'd buy a wii".

In system wars its like bringing a knife to a gun fight. Its a lame way to defend the Wii's library and comes off desperate. Thats the point of this thread.

Why do they do that?

Let me ask you a question. What are you? Where do your allegiances lie?

This isn't a personal attack. I'm asking because you yourself have answered your own question. EVERYsect has Fanboys, including yours if you're willing to be honest,and people who enjoy the console are often embarrassed to be associated with them.

Why do fanboys use lame excuses to back up their claims?Because they're fanboys. That's why this is a moot point and a useless thread. You're not fishing for an answer as to why. And you know no one is going to"just admit" yourstatments based off ofyour personal opinions are correct. It's just not going to happen, and you HAVE to know that's the case.You just want to air your beef.

Do it ina blog.

"and if you sheep want to count VC as wii games, then ps3 is the BEST system available now with its BC."

The PS3 has HORRIBLE BC. Not only do some of the games not working (especially on European PS3s), but many of the games that do "work", work horribly. I will post more details on this later.

Number_1_Gamer

What a load of BS, i have a EU PS3 and i have 30-40 of the best PS2 games. All work 100%. All the PS1 FF and MGS games work too. Unless you were talking about the Xbox 360. And i'm sorry if some Harry potter games don't work, go phone sony about it. I'm sure they'll do anupdate. PS3's BC is excellent.

Thanks for reminding me why I hate System Wars. Childish bickering about stupid toys, spiteful hate and unimportant nonsense. Go on a date with a girl, go play a game you like, go grow up.briguyb13

Yet you post in SW. Pathetic reply, pathetic form of thinking.

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

Downloading old games is a neat side dish but not the main course.

Brand new downloadable content, thats something you can brag about or at least adding new features to old games, something the VC does not do.

Shinobishyguy

If you want to do a downloadable content versus downloadable content, then yeah you can compare the two and prefer one over the other. But the extra features added to classics do make for playing old games in a new way which is one way to tackle the VC's best titles. Then again XBL and the VC have different goals and philosophies. I'm sure tho that when Wiiware starts to churn out titles you'll appreciate playing brand new games as well.

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

having downloadable games add to that consoles game library whether they're for old consoles or original titles. therefore games like zelda oot, super mario 64, suoper mario world, streets of rage 2 and sonic the hedgehog can all be considered wii titles.

/thread.

Riviera_Phantom

By that logic the PS3 library just got gigantic andinherited allof PS2's AAA's.

Sorry, backwards compatability and VC downloads are not part of the console library. Only new downloadable titles count.

well no. ifa game is available for that console then surely it becomes part of it's catalogue? this includes all old titles that are comatible with ps3, xbox 360 and wii. in whatever form they're available (including download and backwards compatability). ofcourse a new console shouldn't be judged on what old school titles it has and it's only going to be successful by having a fairly constant stream of new, original titles. but a good game doesn't become bad over time and the titles available over the virtual console shouldn't be devalued simply because they're available for other older and obsolete consoles.

Where do you pull this out of? If PS1 and PS2 games were included in PS3 library then it would be SW's best next gen console.

if you can play a game on a console then surely it is part of the game library available to that console? of course a new console isn't going to, or shouldn't atleast, be judged on how many old games it can play but having the ability to play all your favourite games from the past is surely a positive and apoint to raise when fsnboys are defending their chosen console on system wars?at the end of theday a consoles success will be based on how good the games specifiacally designed for the current gen are?this thread is very ignorant.

*sigh* another endless bashing the wii thread fromRiveria_Phantom, Talk to me when I actually care about your threads because this just makes you how childish you can be when you post!!!FireEmblem_Man

I don't want to talk to you thanks. And i've created 5 threads in my 2 years here. lol.

[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

having downloadable games add to that consoles game library whether they're for old consoles or original titles. therefore games like zelda oot, super mario 64, suoper mario world, streets of rage 2 and sonic the hedgehog can all be considered wii titles.

/thread.

my_name_is_ron

By that logic the PS3 library just got gigantic andinherited allof PS2's AAA's.

Sorry, backwards compatability and VC downloads are not part of the console library. Only new downloadable titles count.

well no. ifa game is available for that console then surely it becomes part of it's catalogue? this includes all old titles that are comatible with ps3, xbox 360 and wii. in whatever form they're available (including download and backwards compatability). ofcourse a new console shouldn't be judged on what old school titles it has and it's only going to be successful by having a fairly constant stream of new, original titles. but a good game doesn't become bad over time and the titles available over the virtual console shouldn't be devalued simply because they're available for other older and obsolete consoles.

Where do you pull this out of? If PS1 and PS2 games were included in PS3 library then it would be SW's best next gen console.

if you can play a game on a console then surely it is part of the game library available to that console? of course a new console isn't going to, or shouldn't atleast, be judged on how many old games it can play but having the ability to play all your favourite games from the past is surely a positive and apoint to raise when fsnboys are defending their chosen console on system wars?at the end of theday a consoles success will be based on how good the games specifiacally designed for the current gen are?this thread is very ignorant.

Are you on the right board? This is SW. Current gen games ONLY. VC =/=Wii games. FACT.

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]*sigh* another endless bashing the wii thread fromRiveria_Phantom, Talk to me when I actually care about your threads because this just makes you how childish you can be when you post!!!Riviera_Phantom

I don't want to talk to you thanks. And i've created 5 threads in my 2 years here. lol.

Well then good for you, now have a cookie

And please don't make anymore useless threads

[QUOTE="briguyb13"]Thanks for reminding me why I hate System Wars. Childish bickering about stupid toys, spiteful hate and unimportant nonsense. Go on a date with a girl, go play a game you like, go grow up.Riviera_Phantom

Yet you post in SW. Pathetic reply, pathetic form of thinking.

i somewhat agree with the tc here (though the wii liberary is far from pathetic...come on TC get some sense here).

the VC is a system for backwards comatability (and a nice system at that imho) for other machines. if were going to start including those in rating the wii liberary then we should be rating the wii liberary against the PS1, PS2 and PS3s liberary combined. or the entire PC liberary over the last 20 odd years.

wiis liberary is not great yet (but nowhere near pathetic) but it will greatly improve over the next few months.

wii has

zelda twilight princess

metroid 3

res evil 4 (wii version is the best version of the game)

red steel (underrated)

dbz t3 (online play only for the wii)

then it has all the other cross console games along with a handful of more exclusives, i dont see the problem.. but yes the library is lacking right now, itll be fine in the long run, i dont see why ur trying to argue something thats insignificant... if u dont want it, dont buy it

Are you on the right board? This is SW. Current gen games ONLY. VC =/=Wii games. FACT.

Riviera_Phantom

yep, system wars. where in just about every thread people blast facts and alot of rubbish about consoles at eachother at alarming speed, and where is this rule that only current gen games can be discussed?i agree with you that virtual console games aren't wii games. however, they are games available for the wii and therefore should be considered as part of the consoles game cataloge. much the same as i think original xbox, ps1 & 2 games should be included in their big brothers repertoires.

what if you're new to gaming and haven't played any of these games on previous consoles? do you just go 'no, i can't play them as they're not current gen and don't count towards the success of my console'?...

[QUOTE="TreyoftheDead"]I'm sorry we Wii owners enjoy the VC feature of the Wii, we'll try to stop enjoying it for you, OK?Riviera_Phantom

What has you enjoying it got to do wit h anything? Read the Topic title you fool.

I did read the thread title and I'm not sure why you included fool in there. Why insult me?

VC is a great feature and one of the strengths of the Wii and yes, they are part of the Wii's library. The games are being reviewed by Gamespot using todays standards and what Gamespot says is law around here. It doesn't matter which year a game came out, what mattes is that someone who has never played a certain game can play it on the Wii without having to purchase that system or hunt down a potentially hard to find or expensive cartridge.