Why do Wii fans always deny the PS Move is superior to Wiimote?

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="PandaBear86"] I love motion controllers. I bought a Wii because of the Wiimote. So I am happy that PS3 is getting the Move, because I want motion sensing and HD graphics at the same time :DPandaBear86

PandaBear86: It's not the Wii. It's because either your 40" TV has a crappy upscaler, or you're viewing it way too close. Progressive Standard definition is good enough not to have pixelation at up to 42" viewed at the right distance. Shame about your Wii though. Bunch of great games came out lately. Probably not your speed, though.roxlimn

why do sony fanboys insist something sony will make is so much better then something someone else has made? non-fanboys who have used what is out know how good it is, and wont go around calling something thats not out better because they dont know. surrealnumber5

It has HD graphics and real man games, no kid stuff

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]why do sony fanboys insist something sony will make is so much better then something someone else has made? non-fanboys who have used what is out know how good it is, and wont go around calling something thats not out better because they dont know. kontejner44

It has HD graphics and real man games, no kid stuff

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From a technical standpoint, the PS Move is far more advanced than the Wiimote. The PS Eye camera can detect the position and distance of the glowing light, while the Move's internal sensors assist with tilt detection and boosting overall accuracy. The Wiimote on the other hand has a hard time telling how far you are from the TV (unless you have MotionPlus), so it would be laughable to suggest the Move is inferior. The Move is being released four years after the Wiimote, so of course it would have to be better. Sony would be stupid if they cannot out-perform a controller technology from 2006, so of course they can do a better job with four years of improvements.

Websites like Joystiq and Gizmodo have actually used the PS Move in HANDS-ON tech demos during GDC recently, and they have openly stated that the PS Move was better and more accurate than the Wiimote. They said that the controller was smarter, more accurate, and was simply more fleshed-out than the Wiimote... even with MotionPlus! Check out more info about Move here:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/11/playstation-move-and-game-previews-roundup/

Thats right Wii owners, you can stay safe behind the whole "you cannot say the PS Move is better because you havent used it yet", but all current *hands-on* reviews of the Move controllers indicate that the Wiimote is far inferior. Can't wait for the Move to be released. Thats when PS3 owners have better graphics, better online, hard drives, Blu-ray, AND superior motion controllers. What advantages will the Wii have left apart from Mario Party or the next Zelda re-hash game?

PandaBear86

In the end, it won't matter if the technology is superior if the Move is poorly supported or is viewed as an afterthought by PS3 owners. If there aren't enough good games that support the Move to justify purchasing it, then its wasted effort on Sony's part.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]Lol, talk when the MOVE gets released. Hands-on previews don't help.Shirokishi_

Whats funny?

The tech looks considerably better than the Wiimotes.

Sure, it may not be nearly as successful as the Wii but its no doubt a superior device.

The Move is little more than a needlessly complicated rendition of the Wiimote. It's also lacking in key areas.

First: The quality of technology. Move uses integrated circuits. These aren't exactly top-notch stuff when compared with the microelectromechanical parts used in the Wii Remote and Motion Plus.

Second: The Move design itself is needlessly complicated. The use of EyeToy, for example, places a bottleneck on the system's refresh rate - 60Hz in hi-res, 120Hz in low-res quick mode. The image processing that has to be done with the Wiimote's IR camera is also much, much easier than the analysis of a full-colour picture that the EyeToy has to undergo.

The pointing functionality of the Move is also ridiculous. First, the EyeToy has to figure out the Move's position in space by picking up the lightbulb from a full-colour picture, after which the Move has to figure which way it's pointing at by using it's motion sensors - which are integrated circuits. After this, the TV can be expanded into a plane and a line drawn from the move to the fictional plane to figure out where the Move is pointing at. The calculations aren't awfully complex, but not really trivial either. The necessity of the motion sensors combined with the EyeToy presents a needless risk for failure.

In comparison, the Wiimote's IR sensor tracks a couple of bright dots in the IR spectrum which are a fixed distance from each other. Image processing is much easier, and calculating where the Wiimote is and where it's pointing are simple trinonometric functions. This also allows nearly foolproof recalibration of the motion sensors, as evidenced in Red Steel 2, for example.

Im not taking this Move thing seriously because its a sad and desperate attempt by Sony to copy Nintendo's success. Not serious about it because Sony is just wasting time and money on a thing that will never catch on and end up as the next power glove or Virtual Boy. Not serious about it because they are trying to cater to the so called casual gamer when all the system has are mature FPS/TPS. Its really sad when companies cant think for themselves (im looking at you too MS, copying the EyeToy) Nintendo is really the only one trying to innovative and create new things in this industry. That sad.

Like lemmings and cows were saying before motion controls for their platforms were announced, who needs them? :lol:

How is it defeating the purpose of Natal for it to map camera control to where you tilt your head, and everything else to a controller? That kind of control is absolutely awesome for shooters, racing, and flight combat. roxlimn

Headtracking camera control sounds relatively nice, but you would still probably have to aim with a stick. With the Wiimote having an awesome pointer and even the Move's cumbersome arrangement enabling some form of pointer control, analog sticks (or solely camera-based aiming) seems like a losing proposition.

[QUOTE="roxlimn"]How is it defeating the purpose of Natal for it to map camera control to where you tilt your head, and everything else to a controller? That kind of control is absolutely awesome for shooters, racing, and flight combat. _Teron_

Headtracking camera control sounds relatively nice, but you would still probably have to aim with a stick. With the Wiimote having an awesome pointer and even the Move's cumbersome arrangement enabling some form of pointer control, analog sticks (or solely camera-based aiming) seems like a losing proposition.

I support Move because it does what I want for motion controls, adds to a already successful core gamer console.

Though the only big flaw I see in it is some games push for 2 Moves, and others Move + Move side remote. That is redundant Sony.

Sony needs to improve the side remote by making it motion sensing too (add the glowing ball), so this bull***** about needed 2 Moves for one person in some games.

I demand pictures from Cows, posing with their new Move controllers. Which color are you going to choose? :o

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I demand pictures from Cows, posing with their new Move controllers. Which color are you going to choose? :o

:lol:

Dataleak

Its superior but it is indeed a shameless copy. I mean if ur gonna do motion controls at least try something new like Xbox's Project Natal.

MOVE IS CLEARLY BETTER! I'M PART OF YOUR CLAN NOW YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously though, It doesn't matter if it's "better" it's the fact that it's a shameless copy of the Wii Remote.

Besides we can't say that for certain yet.

1. Move isn't out yet. You're basing your "Facts" with videos that you saw. Well just so you know, We've also seen videos of Natal.

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2. Just look at both designs, it's clear Sony STOLE Nintendo's Controller. Just like how The King stole McDonald's EggMcMuffin.

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Same could be said about Natal, PsEye did it first.

That's a very good point.

It is spesifically aimed to compare the performance of both devices, yet sheeps are now going off topic and start calling it a rip off when the threat is obviously not about that.edo-tensei

When it's obvious that you're trying to pry off a fan base and kill off a company that's not going to be killed off.

[QUOTE="Dataleak"]

I demand pictures from Cows, posing with their new Move controllers. Which color are you going to choose? :o

:lol:

Nintendo_Ownes7

I'm partial to blue

if you have not figured out.

[QUOTE="edo-tensei"]It is spesifically aimed to compare the performance of both devices, yet sheeps are now going off topic and start calling it a rip off when the threat is obviously not about that.LegatoSkyheart

When it's obvious that you're trying to pry off a fan base and kill off a company that's not going to be killed off.

None of us know if it will be better or not. I am sure MOVE will be more accurate at what it does, after all, its coming out 5 years later.

However, there are some flaws with MOVE. It will not work well as a pointer. The fact that the controller has to be in the camera's view means that in order to "point at something" you need to position that coloured globe to the edge of the camera view... Also, to have four players, they all need to be in camera view... so we will either need to be sitting shoulder to shoulder, or there simply will not be any local multiplayer games using MOVE. Move is simply an extenstion of PSEye... and the only games possible on it or the ones that have already been tried with the camera.

Oh... and the fact that it is not a standard controller means there will be VERY little support for it. Sony should have simply waited to introduce this with PS4.

Its superior but it is indeed a shameless copy. I mean if ur gonna do motion controls at least try something new like Xbox's Project Natal.

OB-47

why do sony fanboys insist something sony will make is so much better then something someone else has made? non-fanboys who have used what is out know how good it is, and wont go around calling something thats not out better because they dont know. surrealnumber5

You know why because those fanboys have been wearing the 4D glassesfor so long that they just keep saying the Move is sooooo much b3tt3r like these gifs.......Oops....IT LAGS LIKE HELL

From a technical standpoint, the PS Move is far more advanced than the Wiimote. The PS Eye camera can detect the position and distance of the glowing light, while the Move's internal sensors assist with tilt detection and boosting overall accuracy. The Wiimote on the other hand has a hard time telling how far you are from the TV (unless you have MotionPlus), so it would be laughable to suggest the Move is inferior. The Move is being released four years after the Wiimote, so of course it would have to be better. Sony would be stupid if they cannot out-perform a controller technology from 2006, so of course they can do a better job with four years of improvements.

Websites like Joystiq and Gizmodo have actually used the PS Move in HANDS-ON tech demos during GDC recently, and they have openly stated that the PS Move was better and more accurate than the Wiimote. They said that the controller was smarter, more accurate, and was simply more fleshed-out than the Wiimote... even with MotionPlus! Check out more info about Move here:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/11/playstation-move-and-game-previews-roundup/

Thats right Wii owners, you can stay safe behind the whole "you cannot say the PS Move is better because you havent used it yet", but all current *hands-on* reviews of the Move controllers indicate that the Wiimote is far inferior. Can't wait for the Move to be released. Thats when PS3 owners have better graphics, better online, hard drives, Blu-ray, AND superior motion controllers. What advantages will the Wii have left apart from Mario Party or the next Zelda re-hash game?

PandaBear86

Yea right. This looks real superior.....of lag Like Hell

From a technical standpoint, the PS Move is far more advanced than the Wiimote. The PS Eye camera can detect the position and distance of the glowing light, while the Move's internal sensors assist with tilt detection and boosting overall accuracy. The Wiimote on the other hand has a hard time telling how far you are from the TV (unless you have MotionPlus), so it would be laughable to suggest the Move is inferior. The Move is being released four years after the Wiimote, so of course it would have to be better. Sony would be stupid if they cannot out-perform a controller technology from 2006, so of course they can do a better job with four years of improvements.

Websites like Joystiq and Gizmodo have actually used the PS Move in HANDS-ON tech demos during GDC recently, and they have openly stated that the PS Move was better and more accurate than the Wiimote. They said that the controller was smarter, more accurate, and was simply more fleshed-out than the Wiimote... even with MotionPlus! Check out more info about Move here:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/11/playstation-move-and-game-previews-roundup/

Thats right Wii owners, you can stay safe behind the whole "you cannot say the PS Move is better because you havent used it yet", but all current *hands-on* reviews of the Move controllers indicate that the Wiimote is far inferior. Can't wait for the Move to be released. Thats when PS3 owners have better graphics, better online, hard drives, Blu-ray, AND superior motion controllers. What advantages will the Wii have left apart from Mario Party or the next Zelda re-hash game?

PandaBear86

I demand pictures from Cows, posing with their new Move controllers. Which color are you going to choose? :o :lol: Dataleak

The Move does not come in multiple colors. The bulb is white and can change colors according to the room's lighting conditions. If your intention was to successfully insult someone then you should have done your research.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]why do sony fanboys insist something sony will make is so much better then something someone else has made? non-fanboys who have used what is out know how good it is, and wont go around calling something thats not out better because they dont know. TheXFiles88

You know why because those fanboys have been wearing the 4D glassesfor so long that they just keep saying the Move is sooooo much b3tt3r like these gifs.......Oops....IT LAGS LIKE HELL

I don't think many people care that it's more precise than a Wiimote with WMP. I think people are mad at how shameless of a creation Move is.

JAB991

I don't think many people care that it's more precise than a Wiimote with WMP. I think people are mad at how shameless of a creation Move is.

JAB991