why do you say pc gaming is dying?

People say it because publishers are putting much less emphasis on it then before, and in the end thats where the big games are. Sure it still gets a few exclusives and multiplats usually release alongside it, but piracy scares and smaller audiences give game makers less incentive to make PC gaming a priority. Of course its the definitive place for indie gaming if thats your thing.

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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

A bit subjective there on that one.. In this day and age, you can't really prove anything sales wise on Pc unless a developer comes out and states it. Sales and how we define "big budget" on the Pc is pretty much a grey area.

I don't really recall that (I don't own black ops or follow it). Can we get a link on it.

People say it because publishers are putting much less emphasis on it then before, and in the end thats where the big games are. Sure it still gets a few exclusives and multiplats usually release alongside it, but piracy scares and smaller audiences give game makers less incentive to make PC gaming a priority. Of course its the definitive place for indie gaming if thats your thing.

SPYDER0416

People say it because publishers are putting much less emphasis on it then before, and in the end thats where the big games are. Sure it still gets a few exclusives and multiplats usually release alongside it, but piracy scares and smaller audiences give game makers less incentive to make PC gaming a priority. Of course its the definitive place for indie gaming if thats your thing.

SPYDER0416

I like how you shrug off the PC exclusive list when its 2011 line-up arguably out does every other platform, as well as the multiplatform advantage the system has. Yes PC gaming has alienated some markets, but in its transformation over the last 5 years new markets have emerged (digital to be specific) that have opened avenues for more games to be released for the platform.

I like how you shrug off the PC exclusive list when its 2011 line-up arguably out does every other platform, as well as the multiplatform advantage the system has. Yes PC gaming has alienated some markets, but in its transformation over the last 5 years new markets have emerged (digital to be specific) that have opened avenues for more games to be released for the platform.

hypoty

If we dont see anything of these so called "great PC hits" anywhere advertised or talked about then how popular are they going to be? I mean really? I NEVER see any pc games advertised on tv except maybe SIMS and WOW..and thats it. So it dont matter if PC gets 1000 AAAAAAAAA games cause they are pretty much unknown. AND im not dissing the PC..Im just stating that MOST gamers out there will never even hear of them, mush less play them. I know PC is still kicking, thats great, but its not "popular" anymore and thats that..AND by popular I mean..at least 6 out of my 10 friends plays PC games..As far as I know..NONE of my friends do. Everyone has switched to consoles since they have great online play, DL content, updates, ect...COnsoles have come a long way and will only get better.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

I like how you shrug off the PC exclusive list when its 2011 line-up arguably out does every other platform, as well as the multiplatform advantage the system has. Yes PC gaming has alienated some markets, but in its transformation over the last 5 years new markets have emerged (digital to be specific) that have opened avenues for more games to be released for the platform.

VanDammFan

If we dont see anything of these so called "great PC hits" anywhere advertised or talked about then how popular are they going to be? I mean really? I NEVER see any pc games advertised on tv except maybe SIMS and WOW..and thats it. So it dont matter if PC gets 1000 AAAAAAAAA games cause they are pretty much unknown. AND im not dissing the PC..Im just stating that MOST gamers out there will never even hear of them, mush less play them. I know PC is still kicking, thats great, but its not "popular" anymore and thats that..AND by popular I mean..at least 6 out of my 10 friends plays PC games..As far as I know..NONE of my friends do. Everyone has switched to consoles since they have great online play, DL content, updates, ect...COnsoles have come a long way and will only get better.

I don't understand your point, something has to be popular to be good? I can't agree with that. Seriously, is that your argument? An AAAe isn't an achievement if it isn't advertised on TV? It may not be popular in the mainstream sense (excluding WoW/Sims/Farmville etc), but if the platform is getting that many high rated exclusives then it has to have an audience somewhere, wouldn't you agree? Maybe in other countries? I also like how you give anecdotal evidence to support your claims, my friend group almost exclusively plays on PC, is that an indication of PC gaming's popularity? PC gaming isn't stagnating either, you know, it has evolved more in the past 5 years than it had in the previous 10.

If we dont see anything of these so called "great PC hits" anywhere advertised or talked about then how popular are they going to be? I mean really? I NEVER see any pc games advertised on tv except maybe SIMS and WOW..and thats it. So it dont matter if PC gets 1000 AAAAAAAAA games cause they are pretty much unknown. AND im not dissing the PC..Im just stating that MOST gamers out there will never even hear of them, mush less play them. I know PC is still kicking, thats great, but its not "popular" anymore and thats that..AND by popular I mean..at least 6 out of my 10 friends plays PC games..As far as I know..NONE of my friends do. Everyone has switched to consoles since they have great online play, DL content, updates, ect...COnsoles have come a long way and will only get better.

VanDammFan

Simple. They live on through community and sales. You don't need TV ads and reviewers to be good. Those are reserved for the high-end companies that have a ton of money. Being high-end doesn't give you a free pass to being good though.

I know it seems funny, but I have plenty of friends who'd love to game on a PC. Problem is we're senior HS/college students with not a lot of money. Not everyone grasps PC as a gaming machine beyond Flash and Facebook while consoles are recognized as that. These friends don't game on a PC because they don't have their own, and PC initial cost of hardware is higher than a 360 or PS3. However the friends I've had since grade school all game on a PC. We even get together for LAN parties every month. You do know PC has had online play since the Doom 1 days right? We get DLC too, most of the time for free. Updates...we get those too. Only thing left is mods. If anything, consoles are getting better and better due to them being transformed into PCs. Next gen I wouldn't be surprised if they were just stripped-down PCs all running Windows/Linux. The day they turn into PCs is the day I have my first heart attack since I could finally play all the games on PC and not have to worry about platforms. I don't know how likely it is it happen, but I say it has a decent change.

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Because console companies spend millions to convince people they are great, while PC as a platform gets nil in terms of promotional funding; because it is a independent platform.

Consoles are a mainstream gaming solution, and the mainstream aren't interested in anything that isn't plastered across popular media sources like television. Which by the way, every console developer gets bonus funding towards; from the console 1st party.

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Relying on sources like this for your opinion on PC doesn't help either.

Espada12

Oh god that video is hilarious.

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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Because console companies spend millions to convince people they are great, while PC as a platform gets nil in terms of promotional funding; because it is a independent platform.

Consoles are a mainstream gaming solution, and the mainstream aren't interested in anything that isn't plastered across popular media sources like television. Which by the way, every console developer gets bonus funding towards; from the console 1st party.

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Relying on sources like this for your opinion on PC doesn't help either.

taterfrickintot

Oh god that video is hilarious.

If we dont see anything of these so called "great PC hits" anywhere advertised or talked about then how popular are they going to be? I mean really? I NEVER see any pc games advertised on tv except maybe SIMS and WOW..and thats it. So it dont matter if PC gets 1000 AAAAAAAAA games cause they are pretty much unknown. AND im not dissing the PC..Im just stating that MOST gamers out there will never even hear of them, mush less play them. I know PC is still kicking, thats great, but its not "popular" anymore and thats that..AND by popular I mean..at least 6 out of my 10 friends plays PC games..As far as I know..NONE of my friends do. Everyone has switched to consoles since they have great online play, DL content, updates, ect...COnsoles have come a long way and will only get better.

VanDammFan

Of course consoles will improve, and they'll improve to what PC gamers already have (and I'm being serious).

Popularity isn't really a good argument - PC sales are actually pretty good, and people would hear about them if they looked up from their consoles once in a while to consider what else is out there (Just take a look at the Steam website every week, it would cost nothing). Consoles are great, but they aren't the wonderful solution that MS and Sony (Does Everything...yeah. Right) present them to be.

The PC is a major contender across the world without the big corporation to support it.

[QUOTE="taterfrickintot"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Oh god that video is hilarious.

skrat_01

Well Patcher knows a lot about the gaming industry but he knows nothing about the PC market. He said this himself in a video.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="taterfrickintot"] i just watched that video, and i cried. half because it was funny with tears of laughter, and also cried because thousands of people actually rely on that website.edidili

Well Patcher knows a lot about the gaming industry but he knows nothing about the PC market. He said this himself in a video.

Because their game of the year for 2010 was an RTS. :P

(just kidding, but RTS games suck)

there are millions of World of Warcraft subscribers out there. so PC gaming is not dying.

Because their game of the year for 2010 was an RTS. :P

(just kidding, but RTS games suck)

Blabadon

Because console companies spend millions to convince people they are great, while PC as a platform gets nil in terms of promotional funding; because it is a independent platform.

Consoles are a mainstream gaming solution, and the mainstream aren't interested in anything that isn't plastered across popular media sources like television. Which by the way, every console developer gets bonus funding towards; from the console 1st party.

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Relying on sources like this for your opinion on PC doesn't help either.

AnnoyedDragon

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[QUOTE="dc337"] No it doesn't, Black OPS just broke a bunch of records. dc337

Huh? Need a little explanation where your going with this... Are you talking sales? Are we talking people wanting the same rehashes and are showing it because they keep buying redone franchises? Are we talking about milking? Are we talking about multiplatform?... Alot of direction in your "bunch of records" statement.

Wow, that video is insanely funny. lolDragonfireXZ95

I was aghast when he made such a stupid statement as a 2000USD PC not being as fast as a PS3 and that,"you couldn't do anything on PC other than you have a cool keyboard kind of control system".

This guy is a complete ignoramus when it comes to PC gaming or anything PC related.

I am not sure how he is even capable of getting dressed in the morning without having his pants on backwards.

"A dual quad core Pentium 3.2 PC"?

Seriously?!

How many people except some fakeboys do? Hermits bring up this more then anyone else at this point.

How many people except some fakeboys do? Hermits bring up this more then anyone else at this point.

Sandvichman

I dont really think PCgaming is dying, its just not as mainstream as it was getting at one point. AND yep, they bring it up more so then anyone else does.

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How many people except some fakeboys do? Hermits bring up this more then anyone else at this point.

I dont really think PCgaming is dying, its just not as mainstream as it was getting at one point. AND yep, they bring it up more so then anyone else does.

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

How many people except some fakeboys do? Hermits bring up this more then anyone else at this point.

04dcarraher

I dont really think PCgaming is dying, its just not as mainstream as it was getting at one point. AND yep, they bring it up more so then anyone else does.

Maybe the MODS can see whos actually posting the thread..See its a pcgamer "mostly" trying to stir s&* up..So they let it go?? I dont know and im not saying thats fact..On another note..I bash all gaming anymore, be it pc or console. This gen has totally lost its grip with gaming and its become nothing more than a commercialized hunk of junk for the most part. OUTSIDE of a few good/ok games. From over priced addons, over priced maps, over priced games, over priced online play, glitches, cheats, ect..the list goes on.

I hardly even play games anymore and I have almost 20 consoles in my house from about 1980 to this gen..lol..Im just tired of all the overhyped up lack luster crap.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"]

Because their game of the year for 2010 was an RTS. :P

(just kidding, but RTS games suck)

boybrushdred

Maybe the MODS can see whos actually posting the thread..See its a pcgamer "mostly" trying to stir s&* up..So they let it go?? I dont know and im not saying thats fact..On another note..I bash all gaming anymore, be it pc or console. This gen has totally lost its grip with gaming and its become nothing more than a commercialized hunk of junk for the most part. OUTSIDE of a few good/ok games. From over priced addons, over priced maps, over priced games, over priced online play, glitches, cheats, ect..the list goes on.

I hardly even play games anymore and I have almost 20 consoles in my house from about 1980 to this gen..lol..Im just tired of all the overhyped up lack luster crap.

VanDammFan

No annoying BS ads on the PC :)