Why do you think Sony focuses on core games while Microsoft focuses on casual?

I'm more interested in video games than the average human being. I research games extensively, and I'm always finding lesser known, niche titles to play and enjoy. I'm pretty sure many other people here do as well. It's not like the way people here find out about their games is through television commercials, or seeing the Kinect on Oprah Winfrey. People downplay the large selection of high quality exclusives on PS3 because some of them don't sell exceptionally well, but since when has that ever mattered? Wii Fit is one of the highest selling games this generation, does that mean it's the best game? At the end of the day, for people who like a wide variety of genres and research platform libraries thoroughly, a larger selection of high quality exclusives outweighs the sales of a particular competing game 10 fold. Just look at Xenoblade Chronicles, it's a Gamestop exclusive that barely even got localized for NA, and it's widely considered the best JRPG this generation. You're not going to see energy drinks or Spike TV shows with Xenoblade Chronicles on them like you do for Halo.

I think the fact that the Move wasn't as successful as the Kinect is the best thing that could have happened for me, the person who is more interested in video games than the average human. I think that the fact that Move wasn't as successful as Kinect helped persuade Sony to focus on core games. I don't think it has anything to do with Sony trying to be loyal to their fanbase, or because they want to do what's good or what's right for the gaming industry. I think they just didn't see major success with motion control gaming, and they decided to focus on core games instead. I'm sure as hell glad they did, because core games are what I care about. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but it doesn't take one to understand that default gaming controllers have been being perfected for decades, and these motion controls are relatively new and far from perfection. They're well suited for people who don't care about stats, don't care about precision, don't care about winning or losing, don't care about dying because of the game's control flaws rather than because they themselves messed up, etc.

With the Kinect, I think the success of it is the worst thing that could have possibly happened to the Xbox 360 and its fans. The people who were waiting in line for the Halo 3 midnight launch are not the same people Microsoft are concerned with now. The people who got the Xbox where it is today are no longer their concern, and it's a direct result of the success of Kinect. Ever heard the term, "If you give them an inch, they'll try and take a mile"? Like if Capcom gets away with DLC on disc once, they'll do it again and again until it stops working, essentially testing the waters. My mom hates video games, loves the Kinect. My sister and her husband hate video games, but love Kinect and even have one. One of my good friends only bought a 360 for Rock Band, never played any other game for it, and he got a Kinect. What do all these have in common? None of these people liked video games, but gave it a try and liked it because they're ultra ULTRA casual. The common denominator, each of their Kinect devices are now in storage collecting dust. Why? Because none of those people liked or played video games to begin with, didn't care about being good at games, didn't care about stats, progression, winning or losing, precision controls, good gameplay, things that are pretty much common knowledge and expected out of games on any gaming forum and from any gamer that takes their hobby even remotely seriously. It's pretty similar to about half of the Wii sales, same demographic of people, and their Wii's have been collecting dust for years.

The craziest part about this is how Lemmings defend it. The same people that bought the 360 for Gears of War, Halo 3, you know, real games, are now defending this crap Kinect focus. That's the epitome of being a drone right there, allowing a company to dictate who you are, what you like. Ultimately, it doesn't come down to Sony being loyal to their fans and being a nice company, while Microsoft is some evil company that doesn't care about its fans. I'm pretty sure they're identical in many ways, they all just want to make money. It's just that the way the cards fell, Sony wasn't as successful with Move as Microsoft was with Kinect, and it led to Sony focusing on core games/gamers and Microsoft focusing on casual games/gamers.

Regardless of who, what, when, where, why it all happened, it is what it is, and I like Sony a lot more right now because of the way it is.

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Money.

As far as Microsoft is concerned they've gotten what they've needed from the typical gamer. An extensive userbase, strong software sales, and their main first party franchises like Halo, Fable(why this sells is beyond me), Forza do well enough. Plus Gears of War has been lights out for them. On the other hand they are way behind Nintendo in terms of capturing that non-gamer/soccer mom/broader audience.

Basically the third party is covering the typical gamer for them. Their software sales on those games, the xbox live support, and all that jazz has them covered without a significant investments on Microsof'ts part. Where as Kinect is making them a lot of money, and I'd imagine it doesn't cost a lot to make a Kinect game.

As for Sony I'd say while I appreciate their willingness to stick to being a jack of all trades with their first party. It may not necessarily be the best move from a profits standpoint? At least I don't necessarily see it as the best move. But either way they have the extensive first party lineup of studios to pull it off. Microsoft on the other hand is like a handful of studios?

Whatever happened to good old short, simple, and to the point?Second_Hokage

TC wants to be a politician.

Money.

As far as Microsoft is concerned they've gotten what they've needed from the typical gamer. An extensive userbase, strong software sales, and their main first party franchises like Halo, Fable(why this sells is beyond me), Forza do well enough. Plus Gears of War has been lights out for them. On the other hand they are way behind Nintendo in terms of capturing that non-gamer/soccer mom/broader audience.

Basically the third party is covering the typical gamer for them. Their software sales on those games, the xbox live support, and all that jazz has them covered without a significant investments on Microsof'ts part. Where as Kinect is making them a lot of money, and I'd imagine it doesn't cost a lot to make a Kinect game.

As for Sony I'd say while I appreciate their willingness to stick to being a jack of all trades with their first party. It may not necessarily be the best move from a profits standpoint? At least I don't necessarily see it as the best move. But either way they have the extensive first party lineup of studios to pull it off. Microsoft on the other hand is like a handful of studios?

jg4xchamp

But why would I care what's best for Sony from a profits standpoint? I don't own stock in Sony, I don't care about that. What I care about is my selection of games when I type in PS3 on Amazon, or when I research PS3 titles on Gamerankings, or if I am at Best Buy looking at PS3 games. I care about me, myself and I, and I don't care about some fortune 500 multi-billion dollar corporation's profits, and honestly, neither should anyone else.

But why would I care what's best for Sony from a profits standpoint?

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

But why would I care what's best for Sony from a profits standpoint?

jg4xchamp

Yeah, but honestly, all I care about is my selection. If you were to ask me what I would rather have, 10% more critically acclaimed exclusives to play or a 10% increase in Sony revenue, I would choose the games, wouldn't you?

I honestly wish the Kinect failed so I would have more Xbox 360 games to play as well.

Yeah, but honestly, all I care about is my selection. If you were to ask me what I would rather have, 10% more critically acclaimed exclusives to play or a 10% increase in Sony revenue, I would choose the games, wouldn't you?

arkephonic

Your thread(at least the title, I was not reading that giant pile of drivel, I've learned my lesson) asked "why do you think sony blah blah, and microsoft blah blah" and I went over why they do blah blah. At no point did I critique or go over what i want them to do.

Personally I'd like Microsoft and Sony to bend over backwards for me, and go out of their way to please me. or at the least Sony could fund better exclusives, and Microsoft could do less Halo and be more like what they were earlier this gen. When they either went out of their way to pay for third party exclusives(albeit it was a lot of timed stuff like Ninja Gaiden 2), pick up jrpgs(like Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonota, Tales of Vesperia), or fund newer ips(Viva Pinata, Gears of War, the first mass effect) or fund ips that aren't Halo, gears, forza that appeal to me(Project Gotham Racing, Banjo Kazooie). And yeah fund better exclusives(Gears of War 3s mp is fun, but the campaign in that series ran its course by act 3 of Gears 3).

Fund more indie stuff, and unique stuff. I do not want I am legend the videogame(The last of us) or another cinematic fest or another ****ing FPS. But that's not what your thread asked. It asked something else. K sport?

The craziest part about this is how Lemmings defend it. The same people that bought the 360 for Gears of War, Halo 3, you know, real games, are now defending this crap Kinect focus. That's the epitome of being a drone right there, allowing a company to dictate who you are, what you like.

arkephonic

Pretty sure loosingends is the only one around here who attempts to defend it. This board does, on the other hand, have a ton of trolls that bash the 360 non-stop, even in threads which don't pertain to it.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]If I were to play all the games on both systems, I would finish the PS3 before the 360. And thats the bottom line. arkephonic

And this would be a realistic scenario for you I take it? Lol....

I guess I'm just not nearly as much of a gamer as most of the people on this site. I'm not a completionist, in fact I've never gotten a Platinum trophy or all the Achievements in a 360 game. I don't bother playing through a ton of garbage to find a "hidden gem". I don't even play very many games as is, and when I do, I only settle for the greatest. There's just not enough time to sit around playing stuff that is anything less than the greatest. I honestly don't care about the hundreds of mediocre games, and I don't see why anyone would unless they have an unlimited amount of time to kill.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Yeah, but honestly, all I care about is my selection. If you were to ask me what I would rather have, 10% more critically acclaimed exclusives to play or a 10% increase in Sony revenue, I would choose the games, wouldn't you?

jg4xchamp

Your thread(at least the title, I was not reading that giant pile of drivel, I've learned my lesson) asked "why do you think sony blah blah, and microsoft blah blah" and I went over why they do blah blah. At no point did I critique or go over what i want them to do. Personally I'd like Microsoft and Sony to bend over backwards for me, and go out of their way to please me.

or at the least Sony could fund better exclusives, and Microsoft could do less Halo and be more like what they were earlier this gen. When they either went out of their way to pay for third party exclusives(albeit it was a lot of timed stuff like Ninja Gaiden 2), pick up jrpgs(like Lost Odyssey, Eternal Sonota, Tales of Vesperia), or fund newer ips(Viva Pinata, Gears of War, the first mass effect) or fund ips that aren't Halo, gears, forza that appeal to me(Project Gotham Racing, Banjo Kazooie). And yeah fund better exclusives(Gears of War 3s mp is fun, but the campaign in that series ran its course by act 3 of Gears 3).

Fund more indie stuff, and unique stuff. I do not want I am legend the videogame(The last of us) or another cinematic fest or another ****ing FPS. But that's not what your thread asked. It asked something else. K sport?

Lol, you expect me to read your garbage post when you disregard mine?

With all due respect, f*** off, brah :P

I think they both target core , hardcore , and casual gamers .... but it's hard to compete with Sony's internals and their close relationships they have forged over the years.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]If I were to play all the games on both systems, I would finish the PS3 before the 360. And thats the bottom line. arkephonic

And this would be a realistic scenario for you I take it? Lol....

I guess I'm just not nearly as much of a gamer as most of the people on this site. I'm not a completionist, in fact I've never gotten a Platinum trophy or all the Achievements in a 360 game. I don't bother playing through a ton of garbage to find a "hidden gem". I don't even play very many games as is, and when I do, I only settle for the greatest. There's just not enough time to sit around playing stuff that is anything less than the greatest. I honestly don't care about the hundreds of mediocre games, and I don't see why anyone would unless they have an unlimited amount of time to kill.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]You're a f****** hypocrite. To everyone who buys his " I research games and find niche titles" garbage, take a look at what he wrote when it came to his attention that the 360 has 131 A+ games not on PS3. [QUOTE="arkephonic"]

And this would be a realistic scenario for you I take it? Lol....

I guess I'm just not nearly as much of a gamer as most of the people on this site. I'm not a completionist, in fact I've never gotten a Platinum trophy or all the Achievements in a 360 game. I don't bother playing through a ton of garbage to find a "hidden gem". I don't even play very many games as is, and when I do, I only settle for the greatest. There's just not enough time to sit around playing stuff that is anything less than the greatest. I honestly don't care about the hundreds of mediocre games, and I don't see why anyone would unless they have an unlimited amount of time to kill.

PinnacleGamingP

... Or you could not buy the next two CoD games and their DLC, sell your consoles and build a gaming pc for a far better experience. That way you don't have to deal with the bull M$ and $ony dish out to their hungry Saint Bernard fanboys.

Of course you could stay with the PS3 and complain about how successful the other consoles are, that sure makes their community look good.

You're a f****** hypocrite. To everyone who buys his " I research games and find niche titles" garbage, take a look at what he wrote when it came to his attention that the 360 has 131 A+ games not on PS3. [QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]If I were to play all the games on both systems, I would finish the PS3 before the 360. And thats the bottom line. Plagueless

And this would be a realistic scenario for you I take it? Lol....

I guess I'm just not nearly as much of a gamer as most of the people on this site. I'm not a completionist, in fact I've never gotten a Platinum trophy or all the Achievements in a 360 game. I don't bother playing through a ton of garbage to find a "hidden gem". I don't even play very many games as is, and when I do, I only settle for the greatest. There's just not enough time to sit around playing stuff that is anything less than the greatest. I honestly don't care about the hundreds of mediocre games, and I don't see why anyone would unless they have an unlimited amount of time to kill.

Yeah, I totally stand by my statement. I'm not a professional game reviewer. I'm not gonna waste all my valuable free time playing shovelware. It just so happens that many PS3 exclusives just happen to be the greatest, such as MGS4, Uncharted, Demon's Souls, LittleBigPlanet, God of War 3 etc. I didn't have to play through tons of garbage to find those "gems", game reviewers played through the garbage for me because that's their job.

Yea, I guess great titles like Bastion and Super Meat Boy aren't worthy to be on the PS3. Seriously, PC gamers would look at you and arkephonic with shame. Some of the best titles this gen are smaller downloadable titles. And I don't give a rat's ass about the PS3 exclusive lineup, I care about games, which the 360 has more of.Plagueless

Lol, this guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about any of the PS3 exclusive games, but he praises Arcade games?

Can you say delusional Lemming?

This is purchase justification and fear of buyer's remorse at it's finest right here, folks.

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="Plagueless"]Plagueless

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]You're a f****** hypocrite. To everyone who buys his " I research games and find niche titles" garbage, take a look at what he wrote when it came to his attention that the 360 has 131 A+ games not on PS3. [QUOTE="arkephonic"]

And this would be a realistic scenario for you I take it? Lol....

I guess I'm just not nearly as much of a gamer as most of the people on this site. I'm not a completionist, in fact I've never gotten a Platinum trophy or all the Achievements in a 360 game. I don't bother playing through a ton of garbage to find a "hidden gem". I don't even play very many games as is, and when I do, I only settle for the greatest. There's just not enough time to sit around playing stuff that is anything less than the greatest. I honestly don't care about the hundreds of mediocre games, and I don't see why anyone would unless they have an unlimited amount of time to kill.

arkephonic

Yeah, I totally stand by my statement. I'm not a professional game reviewer. I'm not gonna waste all my valuable free time playing shovelware. It just so happens that many PS3 exclusives just happen to be the greatest, such as MGS4, Uncharted, Demon's Souls, LittleBigPlanet, God of War 3 etc. I didn't have to play through tons of garbage to find those "gems", game reviewers played through the garbage for me because that's their job.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]Plagueless

Yeah, I totally stand by my statement. I'm not a professional game reviewer. I'm not gonna waste all my valuable free time playing shovelware. It just so happens that many PS3 exclusives just happen to be the greatest, such as MGS4, Uncharted, Demon's Souls, LittleBigPlanet, God of War 3 etc. I didn't have to play through tons of garbage to find those "gems", game reviewers played through the garbage for me because that's their job.

Eh, I own 2 copies of Orange Box, 1 on 360 and 1 on PC, and a copy of Left 4 Dead 2, so I guess I don't think they're garbage. This was a completely irrelevant rant on your part, are you getting anywhere with this?

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]Yea, I guess great titles like Bastion and Super Meat Boy aren't worthy to be on the PS3. Seriously, PC gamers would look at you and arkephonic with shame. Some of the best titles this gen are smaller downloadable titles. And I don't give a rat's ass about the PS3 exclusive lineup, I care about games, which the 360 has more of.arkephonic

Lol, this guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about any of the PS3 exclusive games, but he praises Arcade games?

Can you say delusional Lemming?

This is purchase justification and fear of buyer's remorse at it's finest right here, folks.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"]Yea, I guess great titles like Bastion and Super Meat Boy aren't worthy to be on the PS3. Seriously, PC gamers would look at you and arkephonic with shame. Some of the best titles this gen are smaller downloadable titles. And I don't give a rat's ass about the PS3 exclusive lineup, I care about games, which the 360 has more of.Plagueless

Lol, this guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about any of the PS3 exclusive games, but he praises Arcade games?

Can you say delusional Lemming?

This is purchase justification and fear of buyer's remorse at it's finest right here, folks.

So what PS3 exclusives have you even played anyways, Mr. Knowitall?

BUYING A PS3 GAME:

1:Get on computer

2:Look at reviews and pick game

3:Drive to store to see if it's there

4:If it is, buy it and check out.

5: Drive home

6:Turn on PS3 and put it in

7:Download updates

8:Have fun, you are now playing a watered down, 700p with no AA, badly textured, destructible game with a horrible community (if it happened to be at the store)

That is at least 8 steps.

BUYING A PC GAME:

1:Get on computer

2:Look at reviews and pick game

3:Check sites to see what it is on(steam, gog, green man, amazon, etc.) and buy it

4:Wait for download to complete (you may play other games, watch a movie, render video, etc. while doing so)

5:Have fun, you are now playing a game however your customized system runs it. Likely at 1080p, max settings, antialiasing and anisitropic filtering, will never lose possesion since it is in your steam account(even if your HDD fails), with a great mature team-playing community.

Not only is PC 5 steps, but you don't even have to get out of your chair!

EDIT: Right, and the PS3 exclusive lineup is..... Uncharted, LBP, Killzone, GT, wait, what else is there?

PC lineup: Any RTS, flash games, more casual games, STALKER, Farcry, Soldier of Fortune, goes on and on. Just look at Steam

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]

Money.

As far as Microsoft is concerned they've gotten what they've needed from the typical gamer. An extensive userbase, strong software sales, and their main first party franchises like Halo, Fable(why this sells is beyond me), Forza do well enough. Plus Gears of War has been lights out for them. On the other hand they are way behind Nintendo in terms of capturing that non-gamer/soccer mom/broader audience.

Basically the third party is covering the typical gamer for them. Their software sales on those games, the xbox live support, and all that jazz has them covered without a significant investments on Microsof'ts part. Where as Kinect is making them a lot of money, and I'd imagine it doesn't cost a lot to make a Kinect game.

As for Sony I'd say while I appreciate their willingness to stick to being a jack of all trades with their first party. It may not necessarily be the best move from a profits standpoint? At least I don't necessarily see it as the best move. But either way they have the extensive first party lineup of studios to pull it off. Microsoft on the other hand is like a handful of studios?

arkephonic

But why would I care what's best for Sony from a profits standpoint? I don't own stock in Sony, I don't care about that. What I care about is my selection of games when I type in PS3 on Amazon, or when I research PS3 titles on Gamerankings, or if I am at Best Buy looking at PS3 games. I care about me, myself and I, and I don't care about some fortune 500 multi-billion dollar corporation's profits, and honestly, neither should anyone else.

I prefer Sony's attempt to make better, more critically acclaimed games. That much I agree with you.

But you just made yourself look like an absolute dumbass in this thread.

[QUOTE="Plagueless"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, this guy. He doesn't give a rat's ass about any of the PS3 exclusive games, but he praises Arcade games?

Can you say delusional Lemming?

This is purchase justification and fear of buyer's remorse at it's finest right here, folks.

arkephonic

So what PS3 exclusives have you even played anyways, Mr. Knowitall?

Because they care, of course.

You have to feed your audience. I'm sure sony and MS know more or less who they are. You cant just expect them to change routes, and expect to be successful if the audience is not there. And I dont think we can mix everyone who doesn't play core games casuals. As you also have to factor people who buy their 360 just for XBL so they can access its media capabilities, which I think are really limited.... Sony does seem to have the more traditional console, and thats good for gamers. But I'm sure all of them want to capitalize in the extra market thats out there for these devices.

I think they are both going after both markets. Everyone in the console world wants to be everything for everybody and they are all competing for gaming dollars.

I guess I don't see your point here. They both have multiple franchises in both arenas. I don't see the difference here.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Plagueless"] As usual, you take my post like any fanboy would, thinking that I think the PS3 lineup is irrelevant. On the contrary, I believe the PS3 has a strong lineup this year. What I meant is I dont give a damn about how it stacks up to the others, because I play All games, not just retail exclusives. I'm extremely excited for Summer of Arcade, moreso thag most of those Ps3 gqmes, like Tales of graces.Plagueless

So what PS3 exclusives have you even played anyways, Mr. Knowitall?

Yeah, those are pretty good. I honestly wouldn't have cared if you hadn't played a single one. What did you think of Uncharted? Were you liking MGS4?

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Valentino07

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I think they are both going after both markets. Everyone in the console world wants to be everything for everybody and they are all competing for gaming dollars.

I guess I don't see your point here. They both have multiple franchises in both arenas. I don't see the difference here.

starfox15

Well Microsoft is directing the majority of their resources towards advertising and Kinect titles, while Sony is directing the majority of theirs towards traditional games.

Sony spends a lot less on advertising, and spends that money on 1st party internal studios for traditional games. That's the kind of stuff I care about. I don't give a rats ass about advertising or Kinect games, so Sony's focus is infinitely more appealing to me.

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kmarrelly

[QUOTE="starfox15"]

I think they are both going after both markets. Everyone in the console world wants to be everything for everybody and they are all competing for gaming dollars.

I guess I don't see your point here. They both have multiple franchises in both arenas. I don't see the difference here.

arkephonic

Well Microsoft is directing the majority of their resources towards advertising and Kinect titles, while Sony is directing the majority of theirs towards traditional games.

Sony spends a lot less on advertising, and spends that money on 1st party internal studios for traditional games. That's the kind of stuff I care about. I don't give a rats ass about advertising or Kinect games, so Sony's focus is infinitely more appealing to me.

I think we have a winner. I wonder if opinion has anything to do with this entire thread?

Casual= simple and profitable.
Hardcore= whiny, cheap, and suffer from an elitist entitlement complex that eventually leads to a cyber attack against the company's network infrastructure.

Sony has all but bled themselves dry trying to appease the hardcore crowd and all they've gotten from them is a butt load of b!tching and an attack on their network that caused it to go down for over a month. Microsoft(as well as Ninty) on the other hand have focused on appeasing the casuals and everything has been unicorns and rainbows for them.

Hardcore gamers are the cancer that will kill gaming and it's no surprise that most publishers and developers are shying away from them in favor of casuals.

In lemmings defense, I don't think anybody is defending kinect.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]Yeah, but honestly, all I care about is my selection. If you were to ask me what I would rather have, 10% more critically acclaimed exclusives to play or a 10% increase in Sony revenue, I would choose the games, wouldn't you?jg4xchamp

Casual= simple and profitable.
Hardcore= whiny, cheap, and suffer from an elitist entitlement complex that eventually leads to a cyber attack against the company's network infrastructure.

Sony has all but bled themselves dry trying to appease the hardcore crowd and all they've gotten from them is a butt load of b!tching and an attack on their network that caused it to go down for over a month. Microsoft(as well as Ninty) on the other hand have focused on appeasing the casuals and everything has been unicorns and rainbows for them.

Hardcore gamers are the cancer that will kill gaming and it's no surprise that most publishers and developers are shying away from them in favor of casuals.

Rockman999

Yeah, I agree. Plus, casual gamers expect less from a product, and aren't as easily disappointed. Even if they are disappointed, they won't make a fuss about it, they'll just move on. Core gamers on the other hand, will make a huge fuss about something as stupid as the ending of Mass Effect 3.

You're right, from a business standpoint, it's way smarter to go after the casual crowd. You make more money in doing so from more sales, and you get less backlash which you would normally get from elitist core gamers.

At the end of the day, I still greatly prefer traditional core games, and it's almost like developers are doing me and many others a favor by continuing to even develop them. I feel that many other gamers, particularly ones that take the hobby a bit more seriously than casual gamers, feel the same way.

Casual= simple and profitable.
Hardcore= whiny, cheap, and suffer from an elitist entitlement complex that eventually leads to a cyber attack against the company's network infrastructure.

Sony has all but bled themselves dry trying to appease the hardcore crowd and all they've gotten from them is a butt load of b!tching and an attack on their network that caused it to go down for over a month. Microsoft(as well as Ninty) on the other hand have focused on appeasing the casuals and everything has been unicorns and rainbows for them.

Hardcore gamers are the cancer that will kill gaming and it's no surprise that most publishers and developers are shying away from them in favor of casuals.

Rockman999

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]Yeah, but honestly, all I care about is my selection. If you were to ask me what I would rather have, 10% more critically acclaimed exclusives to play or a 10% increase in Sony revenue, I would choose the games, wouldn't you?arkephonic

BUYING A PS3 GAME:

1:Get on computer

2:Look at reviews and pick game

3:Drive to store to see if it's there

4:If it is, buy it and check out.

5: Drive home

6:Turn on PS3 and put it in

7:Download updates

8:Have fun, you are now playing a watered down, 700p with no AA, badly textured, destructible game with a horrible community (if it happened to be at the store)

That is at least 8 steps.

BUYING A PC GAME:

1:Get on computer

2:Look at reviews and pick game

3:Check sites to see what it is on(steam, gog, green man, amazon, etc.) and buy it

4:Wait for download to complete (you may play other games, watch a movie, render video, etc. while doing so)

5:Have fun, you are now playing a game however your customized system runs it. Likely at 1080p, max settings, antialiasing and anisitropic filtering, will never lose possesion since it is in your steam account(even if your HDD fails), with a great mature team-playing community.

Not only is PC 5 steps, but you don't even have to get out of your chair!

EDIT: Right, and the PS3 exclusive lineup is..... Uncharted, LBP, Killzone, GT, wait, what else is there?

PC lineup: Any RTS, flash games, more casual games, STALKER, Farcry, Soldier of Fortune, goes on and on. Just look at Steam

Zevante101

There's a definitely a hint of 360 bias in your posts. You aren't the neutral poster you try so hard to come across as. Anyway, 1. Stop looking at it from the perspective of business, and try to look at it from a fans perspective. After all, you are a true fan of gaming, aren't you Or are you the M$ shareholders that others have suspected you of being? 2. PS3 exclusives do sell well. You can check the numbers for yourself broski:) And in fact, the PS3 has more exclusive franchises over 4 million sold, then the 360 has, and ranging across a more diverse portfolio... From God of War to Uncharted to Little big Planet to Gran Turismo ect And the PS3 has many more exclusives at 1 million + too. Where as the only exclusives that really sell big on the 360 are Halo( cliche and uninspired shooter) and Gears ( ANOTHER cliche and uninspired shooter) The truth is that only Halo trully out sells most PS3 exclusives. The second biggest selling exclusive on the 360 is Gears( by the way I don't know how this awful series sells well lol) AND the PS3 has 2 to 3 franchises that sell near or above Gears' numbers. At this point, this is just nother forum myth created by xbots that needs to die off already. PS3 exclusives sell ENOUGH, and in fact more across a wider array of games sell equal to or greater then every 360 exclusive minus Halo. Regardless, PS3 exclusives could sell 5 copies for all I care, I would still enjoy them, and they would still be of a much higher quality then any and all exclusives...(all 3 of them lol) available on the 360. 3. I thought it was hysterical when you wrote " they could fund better exclusives" You must clearly not be familiar with PS3 exclusives. Look at the long stable of diverse and highly acclaimed PS3 exclusives, and then compare that to the repetitive Gears/Halo/Forsa sequels after sequels on the 360. LOL is really all that, needs to be said there Lastly, Speak for yourself, because I cant wait for Last of Us! Its an interesting, and unique take on a familiar genre, AND... Its being made by bar none one of the, if not THE best current developers in the game in Naughty Dog. I don't even think its physically possible for Naughty Dog to make a bad game. Everything ND touches turns to gold.brofists