Why does Halo 3: ODST get no love again?

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#1 Iheartrpgsalot
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It seems like on these forums, whenever someone talks about the ODST, people don't seem to treat it like it's there. While the 360 fans surely a hyped for it, everyone else is pretty much pretending it doesn't exist. So what gives?

Halo 3 is the most played xbox game and one of the highest rated games, and here comes along a sort of expansion (kind of) that's going to bring a new campaign that's rather different from the halo norm, some new multiplayer maps, as well as some other good stuff according to bungie.

I'd understand if that 5 hour number ended up being the full story, but it was debunked- bungie said they it was 5 hours for the one side of gameplay and then we find out that it's going to use a hub and spoke level design (think platformers) for a first person shooter and no one is even caring? What the heck?

And it is a bungie game. This should give us an idea of what they can pull of besides halo as well. Ahh... but they'll have announced their 2010 game by then according to their podcast.

Come on guys, it's freaking Halo

Maybe it's because this game is basically fanservice for the halo 3 fans, and most of you guys only care about is that 9.5

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#2 Toriko42
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We haven't seen gameplay to judge it that is why. We expect easy 8.5-9.0 though.
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#3 nervmeister
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No gameplay footage yet.
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#4 Rigga911
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its going to flop, thats why
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#5 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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Bungie's very tight lipped about ODST so there's no hype for it only speculation.
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#6 habkeinbock
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that happened if people buy games build on hype ! now they know what they get ;)
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#7 Iheartrpgsalot
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Bungie's very tight lipped about ODST so there's no hype for it only speculation.Gh0st_Of_0nyx
see they really aren't. There's a ton of info, just no video or pics. We'll probably see some footage soon though, they're already starting the polishing phase and bug squishing.

It's pretty much all in the weekly updates and the podcast

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Because the Battle Rifle will still be broken.
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#9 tktomo01
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I love ODST, but its nearly a year away and we have no gameplay or pics. Even the main article in GI about ODST didn't have any pics from the game, just concept art and Halo 2 pictures. It sounds great though, blending open world and linear gameplay together.
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#10 king23_
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I'm just expecting it to be another generic First-Person Shooter. Nothing exciting about that.
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#11 inertk
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I'm just expecting it to be another generic First-Person Shooter. Nothing exciting about that.king23_
Another generic FPS eh, care to elaborate?
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#12 Iheartrpgsalot
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^ Halo is one of the only shooters that isn't generic king. even the best shooters now are generic- look at cod:waw, but halo has a unique touch. hub world in a fps with stealth elements from a series that has only been AAA isn't something to be interested in?
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#13 iam2green
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i tink because people are nervous of it being just like halo 3. the game was just halo 2 with some new things but nothing new like.
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I'm just expecting it to be another generic First-Person Shooter. Nothing exciting about that.king23_

too many shooters on that system.

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#15 Iheartrpgsalot
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i tink because people are nervous of it being just like halo 3. the game was just halo 2 with some new things but nothing new like. iam2green
halo 3 really wasn't just like halo 2. It was just as different as any other good sequel. COD:WAW was just like COD4. Halo 3 wasn't like that. Same with halo 2 to 1] But anyway, how the could it be? You play as a ODST, you're way weaker, different health system, gps, vision mode, earth bound, hub world.
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[QUOTE="king23_"]I'm just expecting it to be another generic First-Person Shooter. Nothing exciting about that.habkeinbock

too many shooters on that system.

Agreed. Every year it seems the game that is hyped most on the 360 is a shooter. Need something new.

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#17 TheGrat1
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BEcause a lot of people, like me, didnt like Halo 3's campaign.

Unless ODST is all Arbiter missions, count me out.

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I can see the game getting a 8.5, and then fanboys getting excited that a Halo game flopped, not really realizing that even Bungie themselves said that it's not going to be a full game, but more of an expansion.
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#19 Krigon
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Like most people have stated. No gameplay footage, not enough info and not close enough to release.
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I can see the game getting a 8.5, and then fanboys getting excited that a Halo game flopped, not really realizing that even Bungie themselves said that it's not going to be a full game, but more of an expansion.Legendaryscmt
But why is that going to flop? It's pretty much the length of any campaign for shooters but with all of the neat halo stuff (skulls, metagames, etc.) And then there's going to be 2? map packs in it, 6 maps. Is it so different from any other expansion? It is going to be at a "discount price". So $30-40 and then you can always find it for a bit off. I already said, this is fanservice for halo fans, and there are tons of halo fans. Will it get rated fairly? I dont know. But it's going to be as good as we're expecting it to.
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#21 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"]Bungie's very tight lipped about ODST so there's no hype for it only speculation.Iheartrpgsalot

see they really aren't. There's a ton of info, just no video or pics. We'll probably see some footage soon though, they're already starting the polishing phase and bug squishing.

It's pretty much all in the weekly updates and the podcast

Umm no there's not Im a regular on Bungie.net and there keeping very tight lipped about anything involving the charatcer,story or any new innovation there doing to the game.
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#22 lantus
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I'm all worn out on Halo, sorry Bungie, I'm not getting your game this time, especially seeing as how online turned out in Halo 3.
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[QUOTE="Legendaryscmt"]I can see the game getting a 8.5, and then fanboys getting excited that a Halo game flopped, not really realizing that even Bungie themselves said that it's not going to be a full game, but more of an expansion.Iheartrpgsalot
But why is that going to flop? It's pretty much the length of any campaign for shooters but with all of the neat halo stuff (skulls, metagames, etc.) And then there's going to be 2? map packs in it, 6 maps. Is it so different from any other expansion? It is going to be at a "discount price". So $30-40 and then you can always find it for a bit off. I already said, this is fanservice for halo fans, and there are tons of halo fans. Will it get rated fairly? I dont know. But it's going to be as good as we're expecting it to.

I've been experimenting with reviewers telling us how long games should take us, and each and every one that I've done so far has come up shorter than what they've said. If I remember correctly, Bungie said that ODST should be about 3-4 hours long, which knowing the average gamer now, will only actually take around 2ish hours. Even if it's longer than what I've said, I'm not expecting this game to take over 4 hours at the latest. Besides, this is gamespot, and some highly acclaimed games have flopped. Just because it has the Halo name on it doesn't mean that it's a sure AAA game.

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#24 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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I'm all worn out on Halo, sorry Bungie, I'm not getting your game this time, especially seeing as how online turned out in Halo 3.lantus
You mean the most popular game on XBL :?
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#25 inertk
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[QUOTE="lantus"]I'm all worn out on Halo, sorry Bungie, I'm not getting your game this time, especially seeing as how online turned out in Halo 3.Gh0st_Of_0nyx
You mean the most popular game on XBL :?

Dumbed down with only a few notable maps worth playing on would be a good start.
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#26 Master-Thief-09
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Because they called it an expansion, even though it's pretty much a whole new game (except the single player will be around 5 hours I think).
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#27 Krigon
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Because they called it an expansion, even though it's pretty much a whole new game (except the single player will be around 5 hours I think).Master-Thief-09
Well CoD 4 was 5-6 hours long. We all know the hype will start when Bungie releases a video with gameplay.
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It's just more of the old boring Halo.
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#29 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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[QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="lantus"]I'm all worn out on Halo, sorry Bungie, I'm not getting your game this time, especially seeing as how online turned out in Halo 3.inertk
You mean the most popular game on XBL :?

Dumbed down with only a few notable maps worth playing on would be a good start.

Then why spend so much time on this "dumbed down" MP with "few notable maps" :?
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[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]Because they called it an expansion, even though it's pretty much a whole new game (except the single player will be around 5 hours I think).Krigon
Well CoD 4 was 5-6 hours long. We all know the hype will start when Bungie releases a video with gameplay.

True, I am still hoping it's a bit more "tactical" seeing as it was called Halo Recon before.
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#31 inertk
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[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"] You mean the most popular game on XBL :?Gh0st_Of_0nyx
Dumbed down with only a few notable maps worth playing on would be a good start.

Then why spend so much time on this "dumbed down" MP with "few notable maps" :?

Because despite that, it's still fun. A load of fun and I'm straight rape at it. It IS dumbed down though. And compared to Halo 2, hardly as many maps worth playing on -- which is made worse by Microsoft holding back the goddamn map pack.
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[QUOTE="inertk"][QUOTE="Gh0st_Of_0nyx"][QUOTE="inertk"] Dumbed down with only a few notable maps worth playing on would be a good start.

Then why spend so much time on this "dumbed down" MP with "few notable maps" :?

Because despite that, it's still fun. A load of fun and I'm straight rape at it. It IS dumbed down though. And compared to Halo 2, hardly as many maps worth playing on -- which is made worse by Microsoft holding back the goddamn map pack.

For me, all the online needs is the ability to chose the game mode all the time, then just vote for maps without it changing the game mode. If Halo 3 had that I probably would have played it for more than one month.
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#33 lantus
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[QUOTE="lantus"]I'm all worn out on Halo, sorry Bungie, I'm not getting your game this time, especially seeing as how online turned out in Halo 3.Gh0st_Of_0nyx
You mean the most popular game on XBL :?

That holds like significance to me, and to your argument. I'd rather play Infinity Wards new Call of Duty than another Halo game this year.
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It's just more of the old boring Halo.metalgear-solid
Hehe. I saw your name and immediately knew that yours would be a negative comment.
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its going to flop, thats whyRigga911
Just like Halo 2, and Halo 3 right? It was a "given" it was going to flop? How'd that work out?
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#36 InsaneBasura
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it's freaking HaloIheartrpgsalot
That's why.
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#37 Fire-of-Njozi
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It gets no love because we've not seen so much as a screenshot of the game. How do you expect anyone to have any kind of anticipation for a game they haven't even seen in motion? Especially for a tangential game.
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#38 Iheartrpgsalot
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It gets no love because we've not seen so much as a screenshot of the game. How do you expect anyone to have any kind of anticipation for a game they haven't even seen in motion? Especially for a tangential game.Fire-of-Njozi
God of War 3 Infamous before the gameplay Final Fantasy Versus But ODST is coming out before 2/3 of those games...
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#39 W1ckedGo0se
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Up until recently every one but cows said Killzone 2 was going to be nothing like the E3 Video... We will have to wait until closers to the release of ODST before anyone care to talk about it because we don't know enough/care enough to get hyped about it...
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I can honestly say that I don't care about it, because it just looks like a lame attempt at milkage by bungie and MS at this point. Halo games should involve the master chief, or at least Spartans. It just feels like it's going to be another genereric shooter to me. I could be wrong though.
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#41 HappyAppe
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I can honestly say that I don't care about it, because it just looks like a lame attempt at milkage by bungie and MS at this point. Halo games should involve the master chief, or at least Spartans. It just feels like it's going to be another genereric shooter to me. I could be wrong though. Exeed_Orbit
I agree it is milkage, but definitely not a "lame attempt" at it. Bungie seems to be putting a lot of effort into it, and on their latest update said it was going to be very cinematic. I hope Bungie keeps making games in the Halo universe without Master Chief. If anything about the games is lame, it's him. Playing as human marines will be a lot more interesting. And people saying Halo 3's multi is dumbed down: what do you mean exactly? There is significantly less auto-aim, especially for the sniper. Taking the emphasis off duel wielding has resulted in less people just "spraying and praying". I think you couldn't be more wrong. Halo 2 is extremely casual friendly. They made it more skill based in 3.
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#42 tikki25x
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i,ll get excited when i see some gameplay.
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#43 Iheartrpgsalot
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^ that's a perfectly fine saying. It's jsut saying we don't know about it is lame. To me though, Halo is one of the best series, easily. It's like hearing a core final fantasy game, although to a smaller scale and different, is coming out.
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Because it's just another Halo game. I love Halo: CE, but Halo 2 and 3 are just blah. I'd love to see Bungie do something else OTHER then Halo, it's just the most obvious cash-in, I know they're talented dev's and I wish I could see them do a new IP.
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#45 GinoNYC
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[QUOTE="habkeinbock"]

[QUOTE="king23_"]I'm just expecting it to be another generic First-Person Shooter. Nothing exciting about that.Zoso-8

too many shooters on that system.

Agreed. Every year it seems the game that is hyped most on the 360 is a shooter. Need something new.

Yeah, it's not like any shooters ever get hyped on PS3.

*cough cough*

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oh, and a little game by the name of...

KILLZONE 2



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Because it's just another Halo game. I love Halo: CE, but Halo 2 and 3 are just blah. I'd love to see Bungie do something else OTHER then Halo, it's just the most obvious cash-in, I know they're talented dev's and I wish I could see them do a new IP.angry_fork
how is this in any way a cash in? a cash in is slapping the halo name on a crap game. This is called fanservice....
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#47 II-FBIsniper-II
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It is an expansion to a game a lot of people on this forum hate, you can't expect SW to love it.
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Up until recently every one but cows said Killzone 2 was going to be nothing like the E3 Video... We will have to wait until closers to the release of ODST before anyone care to talk about it because we don't know enough/care enough to get hyped about it... W1ckedGo0se
hmmm odd comment care enough to get hyped about it? lets see if your still singing that tune come fall, but hey I guess waiting a few months will be easy after waiting 4 years for killzone2, seriously though which game franchise has more credit to it the halo franchise or the killzone franchise?
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"]Because it's just another Halo game. I love Halo: CE, but Halo 2 and 3 are just blah. I'd love to see Bungie do something else OTHER then Halo, it's just the most obvious cash-in, I know they're talented dev's and I wish I could see them do a new IP.Iheartrpgsalot
how is this in any way a cash in? a cash in is slapping the halo name on a crap game. This is called fanservice....

Real fan service would be giving the fans something new. Halo needs to be finished already, it's not that great of a series, it's just good in my opinion.

I know a lot of people like it but Bungie should move on and show their talents on a new IP, I'd really like to see what else they can do, it's like they're a 1 trick clown or something.

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#50 sonicmj1
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I'm really intrigued by ODST, but without any footage, it's difficult to get a sense of exactly how it will be different from Halo 3. That mutes a lot of the hype.

Still, I know that I'm looking forward to it.