Why does Mario and Zelda generally have the same storyline?

have you ever noticed how mario and zelda's stories are always the same?

Mario- mario and peach are having a good time, then peach gets captured by Bowser

Zelda- Link and zelda are hanging out then zelda is captured by gannendorf (sp?)

generally its the same but just with different twists to cover it up.

Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.SSCyborg

you better put up a flame shield
also you just agreed with the TC's statement

It pains me that this is true, but Nintendo does not care about storylines. They sacrifice "story depth" for "casual fun".

Compare Metroid 3 to Mass Effect.

Play both and you'll see how much Nintendo cares about storylines. Worst part is, Metroid 3 is the deepest Nintendo storyline there is.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.Ze_ALEX

you better put up a flame shield
also you just agreed with the TC's statement

thank you alex :)

and i care because i dont want to play the same game over and over again knowing what the outcome will be.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.Ze_ALEX

you better put up a flame shield
also you just agreed with the TC's statement

Mah bubbleshield will protect me. And I didn't agree, I said that it's their gameplay that defines them. Atleast to me it does.

I'm also guessing TC hasn't played most if any Zelda games(and looked at the story thoroughly).

Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.SSCyborg

It pains me that this is true, but Nintendo does not care about storylines. They sacrifice "story depth" for "casual fun".

Compare Metroid 3 to Mass Effect.

Play both and you'll see how much Nintendo cares about storylines. Worst part is, Metroid 3 is the deepest Nintendo storyline there is.

APOLLOCJD

Actually nintendo does care about story lines, TP actually had a well written storyline, masseffects story fails compared to KOTOR.

Each zelda has different characters, but the same ganon, link, zelda becaue of the triforce.

have you ever noticed how mario and zelda's stories are always the same?

Mario- mario and peach are having a good time, then peach gets captured by Bowser

Zelda- Link and zelda are hanging out then zelda is captured by gannendorf (sp?)

generally its the same but just with different twists to cover it up.

SaintsRowSam

I don't think you played most Zelda games .. But yes Nintendo sacrifices story for great gameplay.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.Vandalvideo

Read a book or quit gaming.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.Vandalvideo

If I can get gameplay like Banjo's with a story like Banjo's I'd take it.

[QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.SSCyborg

you better put up a flame shield
also you just agreed with the TC's statement

Mah bubbleshield will protect me. And I didn't agree, I said that it's their gameplay that defines them. Atleast to me it does.

I'm also guessing TC hasn't played most if any Zelda games(and looked at the story thoroughly).

*Spoiler*

In the next Legend of Zelda game, Link must rescue Zelda from Ganondorf!

Oh wait... this one sounds familiar.

[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

It pains me that this is true, but Nintendo does not care about storylines. They sacrifice "story depth" for "casual fun".

Compare Metroid 3 to Mass Effect.

Play both and you'll see how much Nintendo cares about storylines. Worst part is, Metroid 3 is the deepest Nintendo storyline there is.

Marth6781

Actually nintendo does care about story lines, TP actually had a well written storyline, masseffects story fails compared to KOTOR.

Each zelda has different characters, but the same ganon, link, zelda becaue of the triforce.

Its something theyve grown into, it would be weird of they changed it now. Though zelda is a game that genuinely does need an update a mario games has never really been about its story. The sheel that most mario games present is usually good enough.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.SSCyborg

If I can get gameplay like Banjo's with a story like Banjo's I'd take it.

[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

It pains me that this is true, but Nintendo does not care about storylines. They sacrifice "story depth" for "casual fun".

Compare Metroid 3 to Mass Effect.

Play both and you'll see how much Nintendo cares about storylines. Worst part is, Metroid 3 is the deepest Nintendo storyline there is.

Marth6781

Actually nintendo does care about story lines, TP actually had a well written storyline, masseffects story fails compared to KOTOR.

Each zelda has different characters, but the same ganon, link, zelda becaue of the triforce.

KOTOR and Mass Effect are both made by Bioware, my point still stands.

If Zelda is Nintendo's best storyline, there is a problem.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"][QUOTE="Ze_ALEX"]

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.SaintsRowSam

you better put up a flame shield
also you just agreed with the TC's statement

Mah bubbleshield will protect me. And I didn't agree, I said that it's their gameplay that defines them. Atleast to me it does.

I'm also guessing TC hasn't played most if any Zelda games(and looked at the story thoroughly).

You've played 3... wow...

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.Vandalvideo

If I can get gameplay like Banjo's with a story like Banjo's I'd take it.

Go buy a book. I play the game, not the story.

Mario games dont put any emphasis on the story so I couldnt care less about the story in those games. The Zelda games however only use a basic formula for their games. Although even then it's not always the same. Majora's Mask, Minish Cap, Link's Awakening are all examples of Zelda games that had a different story line. And even though some Zelda games use the same formula for the story, they all have a very different setting and development of the story.

Mario is always the same cos it's just an excuse to go platforming. Not about story.

Zelda has tons of different storylines. Link's Awakening, Majora's Mask, Windwaker and even Twilight Princess are all different from the storyline in A Link To The Past and Ocarina of "save Zelda, beat Ganon".

Go buy a book. I play the game, not the story.SSCyborg

It pains me that this is true, but Nintendo does not care about storylines. They sacrifice "story depth" for "casual fun".

Compare Metroid 3 to Mass Effect.

Play both and you'll see how much Nintendo cares about storylines. Worst part is, Metroid 3 is the deepest Nintendo storyline there is.

APOLLOCJD

disagree about metroid. Metroid prime has one of the deepest (in terms of how much there is below just the surface of the game) storys in any game. The way the story is presented shows just how much nintendo cares for the story in its games. Still nintendo doesnt want a story to intrude on a game, and they will sacrifice story if they think it intrudes on the player too much.

have you ever noticed how mario and zelda's stories are always the same?

Mario- mario and peach are having a good time, then peach gets captured by Bowser

Zelda- Link and zelda are hanging out then zelda is captured by gannendorf (sp?)

generally its the same but just with different twists to cover it up.

SaintsRowSam

What are you smoking?

LoZ: PH and LoZ: TP are vastly different

Mario is always the same cos it's just an excuse to go platforming. Not about story.

Zelda has tons of different storylines. Link's Awakening, Majora's Mask, Windwaker and even Twilight Princess are all different from the storyline in A Link To The Past and Ocarina of "save Zelda, beat Ganon".

locopatho

Minish Cap, Oracle of Seasons and Ages

[QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

It pains me that this is true, but Nintendo does not care about storylines. They sacrifice "story depth" for "casual fun".

Compare Metroid 3 to Mass Effect.

Play both and you'll see how much Nintendo cares about storylines. Worst part is, Metroid 3 is the deepest Nintendo storyline there is.

samusarmada

disagree about metroid. Metroid prime has one of the deepest (in terms of how much there is below just the surface of the game) storys in any game. The way the story is presented shows just how much nintendo cares for the story in its games. Still nintendo doesnt want a story to intrude on a game, and they will sacrifice story if they think it intrudes on the player too much.

Indeed, the Metroid universe is gigantic. And far more developped than most games out there.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Go buy a book. I play the game, not the story.Vandalvideo

Doesn't bug me that you're missing out on great games because you're too stubborn to realize they are.

To answer your question, a combination of extreme laziness and the fact that people are going to buy the game by the millions regardless.RurouniSaiyajin

Lol did you just call Nintendo lazy? Their games are the best in the industry. (Ya I know Blizzard, Valve etc. For me it's Nintendo!)

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Go buy a book. I play the game, not the story.SSCyborg

Doesn't bug me that you're missing out on great games because you're too stubborn to realize they are.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]Why do you care? Better gameplay than almost any other games out there.Vandalvideo

If I can get gameplay like Banjo's with a story like Banjo's I'd take it.

Both Banjos were $60.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

It pains me that this is true, but Nintendo does not care about storylines. They sacrifice "story depth" for "casual fun".

Compare Metroid 3 to Mass Effect.

Play both and you'll see how much Nintendo cares about storylines. Worst part is, Metroid 3 is the deepest Nintendo storyline there is.

Vandalvideo

Actually nintendo does care about story lines, TP actually had a well written storyline, masseffects story fails compared to KOTOR.

Each zelda has different characters, but the same ganon, link, zelda becaue of the triforce.

Too bad I dont think that.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="APOLLOCJD"]

It pains me that this is true, but Nintendo does not care about storylines. They sacrifice "story depth" for "casual fun".

Compare Metroid 3 to Mass Effect.

Play both and you'll see how much Nintendo cares about storylines. Worst part is, Metroid 3 is the deepest Nintendo storyline there is.

APOLLOCJD

Actually nintendo does care about story lines, TP actually had a well written storyline, masseffects story fails compared to KOTOR.

Each zelda has different characters, but the same ganon, link, zelda becaue of the triforce.

KOTOR and Mass Effect are both made by Bioware, my point still stands.

If Zelda is Nintendo's best storyline, there is a problem.

When did I ever say Zelda was the best story?

What about halo, thats microsofts, is that a problem, or maybe be kameo its first party. Stop being a fanoby, nintendo actually has franchises that are story heavy(baten kaitos), fire emblem, golden sun, advance wars, etc.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Disagree about Mass Effect. It was an entirely new universe with tons of backstory. You strike me as the type of person who would say that WoW has very little to no storyline.Just because its not shoved down your throat like a sunday morning cartoon doesn't mean its not there.Marth6781

Also with Majora's Mask... It's the MOON! Zelda's not even invlolved nor Ganon. It's all crazy mindblowing dream crap with masks that affect you awesomely. Yes, it is wonderful and not like the others.Notsogr8one

Actually it's Skull Kid. lol

Or the mask itself.

Fire Emblems usually have good stories.

Fire Emblems usually have good stories.

Vanadium2k8

games don't need storylines to be great

they just need to be entertaining

mario galaxy winning GOTY over mass effect and bioshock is further evidence of this FACT

i actually skip the cut scenes/dialogue of most games (ie. halo 3, the darkness, etc..)...because i find the storylines of 99% of these games to be corny as hell

i find it a nuisance that i have to force-fed these corny storylines

most of the time, all i want to do is PLAY the game - is that too much to ask?

i'm glad nintendo focuses its mario games on gameplay instead of story. i can't imagine how terrible and corny mario games would be if they were to take mario's storyline too seriously.

but apparently these "hardcore"gamers want mario to be in an engaging and epic story

seriously, he's an italian cartoon plumber who jumps high in a world of goombas and turtles....take a look at what you're working with here.....what exactly are you guys expecting out of such a storyline? :lol:

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

Fire Emblems usually have good stories.

Vandalvideo

Congratulations, you picked out the FE game with the worst storyline. Now lets ignore the fact that he said "most" and then lets ignore all the other FE games ever released.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Disagree about Mass Effect. It was an entirely new universe with tons of backstory. You strike me as the type of person who would say that WoW has very little to no storyline.Just because its not shoved down your throat like a sunday morning cartoon doesn't mean its not there.Vandalvideo

I was talking about WoW, im sorry I come off as the type, but I dont think that mass effect's story>KOTOR.

Your generalizations wont work.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

Fire Emblems usually have good stories.

Can-o-Mark

Congratulations, you picked out the FE game with the worst storyline. Now lets ignore the fact that he said "most" and then lets ignore all the other FE games ever released.

[QUOTE="Vanadium2k8"]

Fire Emblems usually have good stories.

Vandalvideo

Usually. :P

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Disagree about Mass Effect. It was an entirely new universe with tons of backstory. You strike me as the type of person who would say that WoW has very little to no storyline.Just because its not shoved down your throat like a sunday morning cartoon doesn't mean its not there.Marth6781

I was talking about WoW, im sorry I come off as the type, but I dont think that mass effect's story>KOTOR.

Your generalizations wont work.

[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"]To answer your question, a combination of extreme laziness and the fact that people are going to buy the game by the millions regardless.locopatho

Lol did you just call Nintendo lazy? Their games are the best in the industry. (Ya I know Blizzard, Valve etc. For me it's Nintendo!)

Even if their games are the best in the industry, how does this stop them from being lazy in an area of game development?

I agree except its not generally same storyline it is EXACTLY the same storyline over and over and over and over and over again SMG, and Twilight princess we're the only ones that we're a lot more different then the originals then past versions. other then that its really the same Exact storyline over and over.WilliamRLBaker

Yeah! Remember the parts in Link's Awakening and Majora's Mask in which Link talked to Zelda? If so, could you please point out where, because I must have missed that part.