Why does Quantum Break look so boring?

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#101 B4X
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I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

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#102 ReadingRainbow4
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@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

both those games look about as interesting from a gameplay perspective.

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#103  Edited By B4X
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

both those games look about as interesting from a gameplay perspective.

Everything I have seen on The Order has been hand holding pulled out of the actual gameplay. At least they were actually playing quantum break for extended periods of time?

A small glimpse of a demo in QB >>>>>>> everything I have seen from The order. Graphics and game play. If you have an X1 go watch the actual demo feed in real time. The stream does it ZERO justice. Mind blown at what was going on in that engine. When the surfaces actually buckle from manipulation... My god.

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#104 Heil68
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@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

Have to make sure to knock a SONY exclusive in a MS thread?

Dat insecurity.

We all love MS don't worry.

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#105  Edited By B4X
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@Heil68 said:

@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

Have to make sure to knock a SONY exclusive in a MS thread?

Dat insecurity.

We all love MS don't worry.

A Knock deserved?

That handholding game is a tragedy to gamers. You do see that right?

It is no more than a casual rental at best from what I have seen... You?

You dropping 60 bones for that on rails hand holding gameplay?

No Online: Check

No multi-player: Check

Linear: Check

Rental at best: Check

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#106 nini200
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

Because it's not on PS4.

Bingo

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#107 B4X
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@Heil68:

Bloodborne BLEW MY MIND!!!! They better not make it a casual fest!!!

Day 0 regardless!

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#108 Heil68
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@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

Have to make sure to knock a SONY exclusive in a MS thread?

Dat insecurity.

We all love MS don't worry.

A Knock deserved?

That handholding game is a tragedy to gamers. You do see that right?

It is no more than a casual rental at best from what I have seen... You?

You dropping 60 bones for that on rails hand holding gameplay?

No Online: Check

No multi-player: Check

Linear: Check

Rental at best: Check

Maybe quantum break is like that too? A generic cover corridor shooter that includes TV(LOL). But nooo.....have to bring up a SONY game..lmao.

Quantum break have online or MP?

Linear, certainly not an open world game..lolno: Check

During a Microsoft press conference Sam Lake, Creative Director at Remedy, took the stage to give a live demo of the new Xbox One Exclusive Quantum Break. The game looks like a lot of fun.

Lake called Quantum Break a cinematic-inspired action game.

Guess I'll rent it or buy it used.

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#109 Lulu_Lulu
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@Cloud_imperium

Actually I'm just the Co-Op Guy.... Mr. "No Cover System" is SNIPER1234

also I never said that about Max Payne. I may have thought it and it might actually be true but I never actually said it. ;)

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#110  Edited By B4X
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@Heil68 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

Have to make sure to knock a SONY exclusive in a MS thread?

Dat insecurity.

We all love MS don't worry.

A Knock deserved?

That handholding game is a tragedy to gamers. You do see that right?

It is no more than a casual rental at best from what I have seen... You?

You dropping 60 bones for that on rails hand holding gameplay?

No Online: Check

No multi-player: Check

Linear: Check

Rental at best: Check

Maybe quantum break is like that too? A generic cover corridor shooter that includes TV(LOL). But nooo.....have to bring up a SONY game..lmao.

Quantum break have online or MP?

Linear, certainly not an open world game..lolno: Check

During a Microsoft press conference Sam Lake, Creative Director at Remedy, took the stage to give a live demo of the new Xbox One Exclusive Quantum Break. The game looks like a lot of fun.

Lake called Quantum Break a cinematic-inspired action game.

Guess I'll rent it or buy it used.

I don't have enough details on QB to make those assumptions?

I have seen enough of The Order to make the factual claims that I did.

QB has none of those features you stated? Please link me? I'm interested on any info you can find.

I only saw a small demo of QB that Warped (pun intended) my mind.

EDIT: A cow makes a Microsoft exclusive bashing thread. He opens the door for backlash.

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#111 Salt_The_Fries
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You are uninspired with your hatred of all things Xbox, my friend.

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#113 Heil68
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@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68 said:

@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

Have to make sure to knock a SONY exclusive in a MS thread?

Dat insecurity.

We all love MS don't worry.

A Knock deserved?

That handholding game is a tragedy to gamers. You do see that right?

It is no more than a casual rental at best from what I have seen... You?

You dropping 60 bones for that on rails hand holding gameplay?

No Online: Check

No multi-player: Check

Linear: Check

Rental at best: Check

Maybe quantum break is like that too? A generic cover corridor shooter that includes TV(LOL). But nooo.....have to bring up a SONY game..lmao.

Quantum break have online or MP?

Linear, certainly not an open world game..lolno: Check

During a Microsoft press conference Sam Lake, Creative Director at Remedy, took the stage to give a live demo of the new Xbox One Exclusive Quantum Break. The game looks like a lot of fun.

Lake called Quantum Break a cinematic-inspired action game.

Guess I'll rent it or buy it used.

I don't have enough details on QB to make those assumptions?

I have seen enough of The Order to make the factual claims that I did.

QB has none of those features you stated? Please link me? I'm interested on any info you can find.

I only saw a small demo of QB that Warped (pun intended) my mind.

EDIT: A cow makes a Microsoft exclusive bashing thread. He opens the door for backlash.

Link me to MP,Online and open world game for Quantum Break because obviously you've played it, just like The Order...lmao

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Because it's more of the same old tired saggy formula.

Not to say that it won't be fun or interesting, just that, there should be more innovation.

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#115 B4X
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@scottpsfan14: I don't follow Blackace posts. Never read them.

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#116 mems_1224
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why would you expect something new from Remedy? They're amazing at making TPS, why would you expect anything else? It looks cool

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#117  Edited By B4X
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@Heil68: I KNOW the ORDER has none of the things I mentioned.

I know nothing about QB? I was serious about linking me the info you claimed about QB? I'm sure you're not a fud spreader too?

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#118  Edited By B4X
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@parkurtommo said:

Because it's more of the same old tired saggy formula.

Not to say that it won't be fun or interesting, just that, there should be more innovation.

Name a game coming out that is innovating?

EDIT: More than QB with time manipulation?

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#119 CrownKingArthur
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i watched some last night, it appealed to me and the mrs. so does the order, project x, and a few other console games.

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#120  Edited By blackace
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@b4x said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

both those games look about as interesting from a gameplay perspective.

Everything I have seen on The Order has been hand holding pulled out of the actual gameplay. At least they were actually playing quantum break for extended periods of time?

A small glimpse of a demo in QB >>>>>>> everything I have seen from The order. Graphics and game play. If you have an X1 go watch the actual demo feed in real time. The stream does it ZERO justice. Mind blown at what was going on in that engine. When the surfaces actually buckle from manipulation... My god.

That's what I had said. I watched the whole Microsoft conference on my XB1 in glorious 1080P. The videos of QB on Youtube and these sites don't even compare. You have to see it playing in person or on a HD stream to really appreciate the graphical brillance of this game. The effects left me speechless.

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#121 chessmaster1989
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Game looks fun. Really wish it were coming out for PC or PS4, I'd definitely get it. Hell if more games like this come to Xbox One I might get one.

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#122  Edited By B4X
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@blackace said:

@b4x said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

both those games look about as interesting from a gameplay perspective.

Everything I have seen on The Order has been hand holding pulled out of the actual gameplay. At least they were actually playing quantum break for extended periods of time?

A small glimpse of a demo in QB >>>>>>> everything I have seen from The order. Graphics and game play. If you have an X1 go watch the actual demo feed in real time. The stream does it ZERO justice. Mind blown at what was going on in that engine. When the surfaces actually buckle from manipulation... My god.

That's what I had said. I watched the who Microsoft conference on my XB1 in glorious 1080P. The videos of QB onYoutube and these sites don't even compare. You have to see it playing in person or on a HD stream to really apprecciate the graphical brillance of this game. The effects left me speechless.

I watched again on X1 and It blew my mind.. I was skeptical till I saw that footage. When the wood buckled on the peer....wow.

The detail in that video on the X1.... No the YouTube and stream shit is very misleading. It fooled me bad. Till I saw the true demo.

EDIT: I was seriously like Meh.... till I saw that X1 video. I was not impressed at all by the stream or web videos.

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#123 B4X
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@b4x said:

@parkurtommo said:

Because it's more of the same old tired saggy formula.

Not to say that it won't be fun or interesting, just that, there should be more innovation.

Name a game coming out that is innovating?

EDIT: More than QB with time manipulation?

Loss of words?

Just 1 game please.

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@b4x said:

@parkurtommo said:

Because it's more of the same old tired saggy formula.

Not to say that it won't be fun or interesting, just that, there should be more innovation.

Name a game coming out that is innovating?

EDIT: More than QB with time manipulation?

RIME and Hohokum stand out imo.

But I wasn't actually comparing it to anything. The industry in general is just uninspired and full of greed (which results in repetition of safe gameplay mechanics), and this game is just another one of those.

But again, ideas are not games, even if it doesn't involve much innovation, the game will still be enjoyable and it certainly looks very cool.

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#126 parkurtommo
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@b4x said:

@b4x said:

@parkurtommo said:

Because it's more of the same old tired saggy formula.

Not to say that it won't be fun or interesting, just that, there should be more innovation.

Name a game coming out that is innovating?

EDIT: More than QB with time manipulation?

Loss of words?

Just 1 game please.

>___>

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#127  Edited By B4X
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@b4x said:

@blackace said:

@b4x said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@b4x said:

I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

both those games look about as interesting from a gameplay perspective.

Everything I have seen on The Order has been hand holding pulled out of the actual gameplay. At least they were actually playing quantum break for extended periods of time?

A small glimpse of a demo in QB >>>>>>> everything I have seen from The order. Graphics and game play. If you have an X1 go watch the actual demo feed in real time. The stream does it ZERO justice. Mind blown at what was going on in that engine. When the surfaces actually buckle from manipulation... My god.

That's what I had said. I watched the who Microsoft conference on my XB1 in glorious 1080P. The videos of QB onYoutube and these sites don't even compare. You have to see it playing in person or on a HD stream to really apprecciate the graphical brillance of this game. The effects left me speechless.

I watched again on X1 and It blew my mind.. I was skeptical till I saw that footage. When the wood buckled on the peer....wow.

The detail in that video on the X1.... No the YouTube and stream shit is very misleading. It fooled me bad. Till I saw the true demo.

EDIT: I was seriously like Meh.... till I saw that X1 video. I was not impressed at all by the stream or web videos.

Apparently QB is using pitch based partical mass in which light travels through and from the particles themselves. This has yet to be achieved in any other game I've heard of. It's CGI techniques. Also it's reflections are not only limited toa single geometry space. It reflects particles in their full geometric form.

I have no idea how people even can say The Order competes with it's forward renderer, pre baked shadows, and 800p buffer (lol). And when it comes to PC, it will perhaps do even more crazy stuff. But all I said was on the XB1 version. The integral-based lighting pass devoids any bloom buffer so that the objects can be properly lit while spill in the scenes can be eliminated. Techniques only available on XBOX ONE fall 2015!

If you have access to an X1...do yourself a favor and watch that video. Seriously. When I saw the live stream and YouTube videos. I was honestly not impressed at ALL. A little maybe. Then I saw that video. It gave me chills dude. Honestly... Hard to admit that.

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#128 B4X
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@parkurtommo said:

@b4x said:

@parkurtommo said:

Because it's more of the same old tired saggy formula.

Not to say that it won't be fun or interesting, just that, there should be more innovation.

Name a game coming out that is innovating?

EDIT: More than QB with time manipulation?

RIME and Hohokum stand out imo.

But I wasn't actually comparing it to anything. The industry in general is just uninspired and full of greed (which results in repetition of safe gameplay mechanics), and this game is just another one of those.

But again, ideas are not games, even if it doesn't involve much innovation, the game will still be enjoyable and it certainly looks very cool.

QFT

Not sure about the games you mentioned. I sure hope we see something this Gen that will set a standard for achieving gameplay not seen EVER. I back you 100%.

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#130 Chutebox
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Oi, lems are as annoying as cows. The only ones I don't mind are sheep now.

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#131  Edited By B4X
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@scottpsfan14: Really? I did laugh though. /dumbass :p

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#132 B4X
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@Chutebox said:

Oi, lems are as annoying as cows. The only ones I don't mind are sheep now.

Only a COW would back The Order. Da Bears!

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#133 Chutebox
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@b4x said:

@Chutebox said:

Oi, lems are as annoying as cows. The only ones I don't mind are sheep now.

Only a COW would back The Order. Da Bears!

I didn't back the order. Both games look boring.

Bears looked horrid. Thankfully for you it's only preseason.

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#134 clone01
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@JangoWuzHere said:

Was anyone incredibly underwhelmed by the gameplay reveal of Quantum Break? I was honestly expecting something unique and fresh from Remedy. In reality, its probably the most generic looking game at gamescom. The action and shooting looked kinda bad. Weak gun sounds and powers which only look okay.

In a new generation of consoles, I think Microsoft needs to take more risks instead of making more everyday shooters.

I dunno. we've seen very little of it. maybe wait a little? just sayin.

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#135  Edited By Heil68
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@b4x said:

@Heil68: I KNOW the ORDER has none of the things I mentioned.

I know nothing about QB? I was serious about linking me the info you claimed about QB? I'm sure you're not a fud spreader too?

My quote was from the game developer and there is no mention of ANY MP or Online.

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#136 sirk1264
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I thought the game actually looked cool. The combat seemed fun and definitely like the time powers. Graphics looked good too.

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#137 B4X
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@Chutebox said:

@b4x said:

@Chutebox said:

Oi, lems are as annoying as cows. The only ones I don't mind are sheep now.

Only a COW would back The Order. Da Bears!

I didn't back the order. Both games look boring.

Bears looked horrid. Thankfully for you it's only preseason.

Thankfully for me? I'm not playing. The Bears are. :p

Defense bent but didn't break. Till they had to go right back onto the field. Kelvin Hayden penalty on 3rd and 13, then the blown coverage after the Weems turnover.

Eric Weems bringing it out 10 yards deep into the end zone helped? Then giving them a short field on a fumble?

Bears will be fine. Worry about those skins :p

OT: Quantum Break looks amazing. IMO

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#138 hrt_rulz01
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I think it looks awesome... can't wait!

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#139  Edited By lglz1337
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suddenly lemmings like standard cover based TPS.. LOL

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#140 B4X
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@Heil68 said:

@b4x said:

@Heil68: I KNOW the ORDER has none of the things I mentioned.

I know nothing about QB? I was serious about linking me the info you claimed about QB? I'm sure you're not a fud spreader too?

My quote was from the game developer and there is no mention of ANY MP or Online.

Cool.

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#141 B4X
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@lglz1337 said:

suddenly lemmings like standard cover based TPS.. LOL

Gears of War ring a bell?

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#143 ShadowsDemon
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I think it looks good. I loved Alan Wake, so this looks fantastic as well.

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#144  Edited By lglz1337
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@b4x said:

@lglz1337 said:

suddenly lemmings like standard cover based TPS.. LOL

Gears of War ring a bell?

lemmings expected something new from the order 1886, but nooooooooooooooooooooo they don't care about quantum payne standard cover based TPS bringing nothing new on the table.

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#145  Edited By kinectthedots
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@b4x said:

@blackace said:

@b4x said:

Everything I have seen on The Order has been hand holding pulled out of the actual gameplay. At least they were actually playing quantum break for extended periods of time?

A small glimpse of a demo in QB >>>>>>> everything I have seen from The order. Graphics and game play. If you have an X1 go watch the actual demo feed in real time. The stream does it ZERO justice. Mind blown at what was going on in that engine. When the surfaces actually buckle from manipulation... My god.

That's what I had said. I watched the who Microsoft conference on my XB1 in glorious 1080P. The videos of QB onYoutube and these sites don't even compare. You have to see it playing in person or on a HD stream to really apprecciate the graphical brillance of this game. The effects left me speechless.

I watched again on X1 and It blew my mind.. I was skeptical till I saw that footage. When the wood buckled on the peer....wow.

The detail in that video on the X1.... No the YouTube and stream shit is very misleading. It fooled me bad. Till I saw the true demo.

EDIT: I was seriously like Meh.... till I saw that X1 video. I was not impressed at all by the stream or web videos.

Damn Blackace = B4X confirmed.

The jig is up, was if fun while it lasted?

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#146  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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Halflife brought the "interactive" cutscene into the mainstream and was evolutionary because it brought the player closer to the story/events. Since then, it was copied until noone apparently remembered why it worked so well in the first place:

It was a storytelling mechanic, which did not take you out of the gameplay, yet we've come full circle and "interactive" cutscenes are pretty much back to being plain old..... Cutscenes.... And if that's what we're going to get, I'm fine with just watching.

MGS4 understood this. The Batman games do so as well.

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#147  Edited By RR360DD
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@lglz1337 said:

@b4x said:

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suddenly lemmings like standard cover based TPS.. LOL

Gears of War ring a bell?

lemmings expected something new from the order 1886, but nooooooooooooooooooooo they don't care about quantum payne standard cover based TPS bringing nothing new on the table.

Some PSP developers vs Remedy.

Nothing more to be said really.

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why would you expect something new from Remedy? They're amazing at making TPS, why would you expect anything else? It looks cool

Because Remedy use to do cool and unique stuff when they made games. Quantum Break looks like it could be from anyone. Its got the same copy and pasted shooter combat with some powers thrown in. The game also didn't look that great. The shooting looked awkward and I didn't see the point of freezing individual targets when you could just shoot them instead.

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@lglz1337 said:

@b4x said:

@lglz1337 said:

suddenly lemmings like standard cover based TPS.. LOL

Gears of War ring a bell?

lemmings expected something new from the order 1886, but nooooooooooooooooooooo they don't care about quantum payne standard cover based TPS bringing nothing new on the table.

The Order brings NOTHING new to gameplay or gaming. It takes gaming functionality away. You have watched the demos?

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@scottpsfan14 said:
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I was blown away.

You would have a point if you were talking about the Order?

both those games look about as interesting from a gameplay perspective.

Everything I have seen on The Order has been hand holding pulled out of the actual gameplay. At least they were actually playing quantum break for extended periods of time?

A small glimpse of a demo in QB >>>>>>> everything I have seen from The order. Graphics and game play. If you have an X1 go watch the actual demo feed in real time. The stream does it ZERO justice. Mind blown at what was going on in that engine. When the surfaces actually buckle from manipulation... My god.

That's what I had said. I watched the who Microsoft conference on my XB1 in glorious 1080P. The videos of QB onYoutube and these sites don't even compare. You have to see it playing in person or on a HD stream to really apprecciate the graphical brillance of this game. The effects left me speechless.

I watched again on X1 and It blew my mind.. I was skeptical till I saw that footage. When the wood buckled on the peer....wow.

The detail in that video on the X1.... No the YouTube and stream shit is very misleading. It fooled me bad. Till I saw the true demo.

EDIT: I was seriously like Meh.... till I saw that X1 video. I was not impressed at all by the stream or web videos.

Apparently QB is using pitch based partical mass in which light travels through and from the particles themselves. This has yet to be achieved in any other game I've heard of. It's CGI techniques. Also it's reflections are not only limited toa single geometry space. It reflects particles in their full geometric form.

I have no idea how people even can say The Order competes with it's forward renderer, pre baked shadows, and 800p buffer (lol). And when it comes to PC, it will perhaps do even more crazy stuff. But all I said was on the XB1 version. The integral-based lighting pass devoids any bloom buffer so that the objects can be properly lit while spill in the scenes can be eliminated. Techniques only available on XBOX ONE fall 2015!We

Well, I didn't know that. I guess you do learn something new every day. Even on SW. Where are you getting all this information from? Is this on Remedy's website?

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