why does the wii looks so horrible graphicly?

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#1 Fightingfan
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3rd party games atleast, I have a wii and i feel so bad that 3rd party games are not even better graphicly then ps2 games.

Im playing MGS3 right now on my ps3 and i can't figure out why that game looks better the no more heroes 2, meaning less jaggles.

The anti-aliasing is just crap, mayb its because my 60gb ps3 is upscaling the ps2 image to HD standards.

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#2 Sky-
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If you are going to make comparisons, then at least choose games that have similar artstyles. For example, compare the PS2 Monster Hunters to Monster Hunter 3.

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#3 chikenfriedrice
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u must not be using component cables...480i baby!!! lol

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#4 GC4ever
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its only as powerful as the original xbox
it's what nintendo intentionaly did cause they want to focus on gameplay not graphics
yes nintendo will never beat sony or microsoft ever in terms of graphics
if it's the only thing you care about don't get a wii and don't bash it
too many threads in SW about that.....

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#5 DraugenCP
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Even though games like SMG and Mario Kart Wii look pretty nice, some of the games are just plain embarassing graphically. The new Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing looks worse than Double Dash did on the Gamecube.

I'm not too sure on the 'why', but I think it had something to do with most 3rd party developers not using double layered discs or something...

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#6 FeedOnATreeFrog
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there's no demand for high quality grahics, so the devs don't bother. Simple really.

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#8 surrealnumber5
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well if you dont think the wii has better looking third party games then the ps2 then the reason the wii games look so bad to you is because you need new glasses
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#9 Brownesque
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Even though games like SMG and Mario Kart Wii look pretty nice, some of the games are just plain embarassing graphically. The new Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing looks worse than Double Dash did on the Gamecube.

I'm not too sure on the 'why', but I think it had something to do with most 3rd party developers not using double layered discs or something...

DraugenCP
Yeah, I've felt the same way about PS3 games for years now. Some of them look utterly fantastic, but most of them send me back to my rinky dink mid end PC.
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#10 Mario1331
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to be fair you should compare certain games of the same art style..well try to and the wii is like a little bit stronger then the xbox but weaker then the 360/ps3 kind of like in the middle

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#11 xTheExploited
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Are you serious? The Wii is essentially the Gamecube with motion control and despite this it has done fairly well for what its been given in the graphics department. I could not of imagined SMG's graphics last gen yet they were possible and SMG is proof of it.
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#12 windsquid9000
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Even though its tech is weaksauce, it's still much better than anything last gen.

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#13 Renjinrezo
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There are some cool looking games, like Fatal Frame 4. However most 3rd party developers don't bother utilizing the full potential of the Wii which is why there are some really horrible looking games.

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#14 juno84
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its only as powerful as the original xbox
it's what nintendo intentionaly did cause they want to focus on gameplay not graphics
yes nintendo will never beat sony or microsoft ever in terms of graphics
if it's the only thing you care about don't get a wii and don't bash it
too many threads in SW about that.....

GC4ever

That would imply that you can only have a focus on gameplay or graphics... you can certainly do both. Nintendo just didn't bother.

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#15 marcos27pr
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We cant even Compare to Classic Xbox

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#16 windsquid9000
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3rd party games atleast, I have a wii and i feel so bad that 3rd party games are not even better graphicly then ps2 games.

Im playing MGS3 right now on my ps3 and i can't figure out why that game looks better the no more heroes 2, meaning less jaggles.

The anti-aliasing is just crap, mayb its because my 60gb ps3 is upscaling the ps2 image to HD standards.

Fightingfan
Aren't PS2 games upscaled or something when being played on a PS3?
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#17 mike_on_mic
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I don't think Nintendo focused on game play instead of graphics for the Wii. My belief was to create a cheap innovative console. That was easy to develop for, and they hit it. The reason for it, and the reason for it being the king seller is price. If it cost the same as the PS3 and 360 I think we would see a very different story.

You develop the technology with something that is known, (like the GameCube), update it, faster bus speeds etc... you aren't pushing your R&D budget too much, you develop motion controllers, no new technology or ground breaking, especially in its original form. And push out games that don't require hige budgets to make.

Because it is simple you can re-use existing art assets and animation content, update it for the new graphics engines available, and you have a "new" *cough* game for the platform, despite it looking very similar to the original.

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#18 awssk8er716
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Monster Hunter Tri and Red Steel 2 say otherwise.

Red Steel 2 (from the screenshots atleast) is one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen graphically.

Monster Hunter could possibly pull-off low end 360 launch graphics, but I'm not sure.

But most third party developers do not try at all.

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#19 CleanPlayer
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It bothers me too with the graphics downgrade, hard to play really when u have a 360 and a Ps3
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#20 LordQuorthon
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System Wars runs in circles but, at the same time, it's always sinking. Astrophysicists would have tons of fun studying this place.

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#21 surrealnumber5
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It bothers me too with the graphics downgrade, hard to play really when u have a 360 and a Ps3CleanPlayer
funny i have a good pc that blows the consoles out of the water but dont mind the wii at all, could it be a weird console owner thing?
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#22 LegatoSkyheart
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Monster Hunter Tri is probably one of the Best graphically pleasing games on the Wii this far.

I just wish some Developers would start pushing the Wii's Graphics to the Limit.

Thank you Capcom again for another Great title!

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#23 me_rock
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Silent Hill looks really good. But anyways developers don't care, since most games are shovelware.

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#24 laus_basic
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Xenoblade looks pretty nice too: http://www.nintendoeverything.com/33340/

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#25 deactivated-6243ee9902175
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Looks fine to me and I'm the Hermit.

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#26 JigglyWiggly_
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It looks like puke. To put it in perspective, the 360 uses around 150watts, the ps3 uses around the same amount. The wii uses less than 15 watts.
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#27 General_X
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In response to the thread title IIRC the Wii lacks any (or has very few) shaders that make lighting effects extremely difficult.
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#28 surrealnumber5
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Looks fine to me and I'm the Hermit.

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ditto, as i stated earlier it must be a console thing for this gen
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#29 WiiMan21
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Monster Hunter Tri and Red Steel 2 say otherwise.

Red Steel 2 (from the screenshots atleast) is one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen graphically.

Monster Hunter could possibly pull-off low end 360 launch graphics, but I'm not sure.

But most third party developers do not try at all.

awssk8er716

You've seen, and graphically its terrible.

Art S tyle though its great, but I would like to to say the same once (if) you pick up a next gen system.

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#30 scoots9
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It is even more outdated and underpowered than the other two consoles, that's why.

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#31 DJ_Headshot
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because its running on decade nearly decade old tech And only can output 480p so unless your still have an old SDTV lying around it will look terrible if the wii could output in HD it would look pretty nice played on a HDTV.

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#32 battalionwars13
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Monster Hunter Tri and Red Steel 2 say otherwise.

Red Steel 2 (from the screenshots atleast) is one of the most beautiful games I've ever seen graphically.

Monster Hunter could possibly pull-off low end 360 launch graphics, but I'm not sure.

But most third party developers do not try at all.

WiiMan21

You've seen, and graphically its terrible.

Art S tyle though its great, but I would like to to say the same once (if) you pick up a next gen system.

What? They got released already! I didn't even know :o!

Wii's graphics are fine, well atleast for me. I can still play Nintendo 64 games without even batting an eye, but that's just me.

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#33 kentaro22
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lots of reasons, but the main one is that most 3rd parties are not really invested in the wii, but trying to make a quick buck with a wiimote gimmick game.
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#34 laus_basic
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I posted those in a similar thread















developers need to try harder, that's all

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^Holy crap, nice!
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#36 flashn00b
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One thing i do not get is why Nintendo didn't make their systems miniature powerhouses like the PS3 and 360.

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#37 Mario1331
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One thing i do not get is why Nintendo didn't make their systems miniature powerhouses like the PS3 and 360.

flashn00b

its all business they were arrogant and got whooped two generations in a row now they got their act together made something appealing to casuals and some hardcores got a butt oad of money and now will go hd next generation..

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#38 Vesica_Prime
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Because the Wii has weaker hardware than most other consoles this gen.

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#39 godzillavskong
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Its got a tiny little processor. Its like the PS3 and 360 are V8s and the Wii is a 4 cylinder. Well, maybe the GAmecube was a 4 cylinder and the Wii is a 4 cylinder with a turbo charger. Since it does have the same "Hollywood" processor as the Gamecube.

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#40 flashn00b
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Because the Wii has weaker hardware than most other consoles this gen.

Vesica_Prime

Why didn't they spend money trying to make hardware in par with the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3?

Also, should we expect Nintendo to follow Sega and Atari's example?

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#41 KristoffBrujah
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Like one guy mentioned, some of it is embarrassingly bad. Look at this:

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/driving/sonicandsegaallstarsracing/images/0/4/?tag=thumbs_below;thumb;4

This looks worse than Xbox. Taking me back to Crash Bandicoot days on PS1.

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#42 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Vesica_Prime"]

Because the Wii has weaker hardware than most other consoles this gen.

flashn00b

Why didn't they spend money trying to make hardware in par with the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3?

Also, should we expect Nintendo to follow Sega and Atari's example?

i just explained it to u and its a hard chance nintendo will follow the sega and atari route since they are winning this generation

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#43 LordQuorthon
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Also, should we expect Nintendo to follow Sega and Atari's example?

flashn00b

This is the real world:

This is System Wars:

This may be shocking, but both entities function independently from each other. What you see in the real world rarely has any effect on system wars, and what is said in system wars is rarely related to the real world.

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#44 windsquid9000
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Its got a tiny little processor. Its like the PS3 and 360 are V8s and the Wii is a 4 cylinder. Well, maybe the GAmecube was a 4 cylinder and the Wii is a 4 cylinder with a turbo charger. Since it does have the same "Hollywood" processor as the Gamecube.

godzillavskong
I thought Hollywood was the GPU and the GC's was called the Flipper or something...
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#45 ElTriforceo
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its only as powerful as the original xbox
it's what nintendo intentionaly did cause they want to focus on gameplay not graphics
yes nintendo will never beat sony or microsoft ever in terms of graphics
if it's the only thing you care about don't get a wii and don't bash it
too many threads in SW about that.....

GC4ever

Well you sound like you want to make peace but it's much, much, much more powerful than an Xbox....

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#46 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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BECAUSE there's more to games than ghraphics. The sooner all System Wars fanboys get that, the better,
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#47 Jesus_on_fire
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its only as powerful as the original xbox
it's what nintendo intentionaly did cause they want to focus on gameplay not graphics
yes nintendo will never beat sony or microsoft ever in terms of graphics
if it's the only thing you care about don't get a wii and don't bash it
too many threads in SW about that.....

GC4ever

Why couldnt they do both?

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#48 godzillavskong
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[QUOTE="godzillavskong"]

Its got a tiny little processor. Its like the PS3 and 360 are V8s and the Wii is a 4 cylinder. Well, maybe the GAmecube was a 4 cylinder and the Wii is a 4 cylinder with a turbo charger. Since it does have the same "Hollywood" processor as the Gamecube.

windsquid9000
I thought Hollywood was the GPU and the GC's was called the Flipper or something...

ATI Hollywood GPU used in both the GAmecube and Wii.
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#49 Sandvichman
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BECAUSE there's more to games than ghraphics. The sooner all System Wars fanboys get that, the better,charizard1605
Yeah, and according to the ps3 and 360 library, i'd say we got both.
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#50 Sandvichman
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I posted those in a similar thread















developers need to try harder, that's all

laus_basic

Your kidding yourself if it's going to look like those shots, with 16 AA.